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[000:00:00;00] and you and i. well, what should we do, because what russia will create in our country will slightly change the opinion of the west about how strong russia is or how smart it is. that is, we will be another stage of the senseless loss of a large number of personnel of the russian federation and already after that , the great ukrainian offensive begins, what are we going to witness all this, of course, and mr. mykhailo thank you mykhailo prytula , a counterintelligence colonel in reserve as the head of the internal security department of the ministry of internal affairs, he was with we will now talk a little more about the situation in general and abroad and in ukraine
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, er, oleg rybachuk will join us now. i wanted to say what , what i wanted to say . i don't know. mr. oleg riba will join us a long time ago. i heard that the next week will be critical. i also read an interesting article on the fs form about the fact that the war will end sooner or later, but since both sides believe that they will win, the war will not end in the near future, probably, but on the war is changing too quickly, it can and will end, no matter what, it is necessary to prepare for the end of the war already now, and one of the ideas of the publications is that if ukraine is not taken into nato, then it is necessary to establish a powerful peacekeeping military contingent here so that it is a guarantee that
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in the near future, russia will not try to attack ukraine again, they say that it can even be from neutral countries, the army of soldiers, for example , india, but it is also written there that there must be a powerful contingent, and american publications write about american soldiers there too it is even literally formulated in such a way that the sooner the future of ukrainian democracy, democracy will come , the sooner the boots of an american soldier will step on ukrainian soil. likes in the grave turns over with joy who knows him who knew him who was a controversial person this vladimir volfovich er zhirynovskyy this
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is the story er that oleg and i have a bull, he joins us already or not, chances are they have him yes, i already see it, sir, but after the super you can see it on the horizon, so in the meantime, what else can i tell you, lithuania has decided and is still considering such an idea to prohibit russians from buying real estate in lithuania and applying for citizenship, so many russians can be seen , and by the way and finally, in our country, the verkhovna rada passed a law on the 31st year of independence that does not allow giving out , so to speak , ukrainian citizenship to everyone, those people must at least know the ukrainian language, know ukrainian history, then in such normal options and not according to the soviet textbook and to know, well, water and at least a little bit of the constitution. well, in my opinion, these are some kind of minimum requirements for every ukrainian. i would honestly like this survey among all ukrainians. well,
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the ukrainian language is history. history is and the constitution and the constitution are easy to take here if everyone retakes it. so, after the war, everyone passes this exam, do not deprive a person of citizenship if he fails, but before retaking it , determine the transfer, for example, in a year, and the person is temporarily suspended in some civil rights, for example, the right to vote, to choose and to be elected, this is a constitutional right, but how do you not comply with the law according to which you should have this constitutional right? well, it means that it stops in the meantime, now they say that i speak terribly about democratic things, that i am just a neo-nazi, but i i want to say that this is the path that they chose for themselves. for example , estonia itself, which is a terribly successful and extremely democratic and respected member of both nato and the european union, and everything seems to
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be fine in some respects, it is much tougher in them there was an option because it included an ethnic component in one way or another, in fact, there is no technical component here, you mean, i just arrived yesterday , i don’t know, from guinea, for example, there’s coriander from anywhere, it came from russia, no way . well, if you already know ukrainian history, you know ukrainian pantheon heroic do you know ukrainian ukrainian interest if you are in historical events what do you know i don't know the ukrainian anthem do you know the ukrainian constitution and do you know all these things do you know the ukrainian language and speak it well then welcome monte be please help us build this country, now we will ask mr. oleg rybachuk, the voice of the secretary to the president in 2005-2006, an economist, a banker, a politician, and the chairman and co-founder of the ua center . what does mr. oleg think about that?
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andriy that he would conduct an exam among all ukrainians who already have citizenship and find out how much they know what the country in which they live in and if they don't know much well, then they are deprived of the right to vote, how much time i n-n year i know, well, we'll agree somehow well, we'll decide, oh, liberal europe will scream. these are all our partners in european integration, we now have to pass everything, even this law on national medicine, but personally, i uh, i think that knowledge of the language it is extremely important, if anyone was in doubt, then you remember that when the russian peace entered any populated place, the first thing they did was that they even changed the names of our cities and villages, put their own and instead of ours with
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a dot, and in fact everywhere started with the fact that they changed the toponymy and changed the language because i, too, would sign up for those people to whom andrii belongs. although i understand that i would run into criticism of european liberals like this, oleg, well , we welcome you to the ranks of our liberal conservatives, one and a stop in latvia or in lithuania where where is it in estonia in estonia, well in estonia it's a european country, it worked for a while and there was a majority of the population that supported it, we don't have that, we don't have that nothing unfortunately, it couldn't be like that , it's so much more normal uh, more jokes in more than in reality i saw great progress i saw in kyiv i see progress at the level of expansion of the use of the ukrainian language in the field of service mostly almost everywhere you can calmly hear the ukrainian language in
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response, which was not the case even a year ago. but we still need to start with civil servants, of course, those who represent the government are simply absolutely obliged not to be azarovs, mr. valo. here, in continuation of this topic, to close it like that, there is such a thing, i recently learned that he was so beautiful for example, the laws that made changes to the criminal code that prevented us from ratifying the rome statute, we still haven't ratified it, that's amazing . by the way, tajikistan ratified the rome statute, that is, theoretically , putin is going to some one there, we are malii rahman, or whoever is the boss there. and theoretically, but they can arrest at least such a demand will be put in front of tajikistan, and in ukraine, the following roman ones, but i learned about something else, even about the fact that this law turns out to be a year and a half president zelenskyi did not
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sign it. he was voted in. he was i just didn’t sign it and it was before the war, that is, there was no state of emergency. and how is this even possible, and now , for example, there is a law that was voted last year in may on the banning of russian books? is this an unimportant law and it has not yet been signed? what how can it be, this is some kind of neglect of duty, we are the constitution, and where then well, okay, the president can be terribly busy well, then, i am the speaker of the verkhovna rada, he just signs for the president and that's all no, no, it's not a question of employment i know exactly i was there on banks, such things are also tracked by special legal units there who clearly know what the moment is because there are already certain laws that must be signed by a certain date because after that the president loses the right to sign. she can
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go to the verkhovna rada, that is, for that by these deadlines, by the deadline, the signing of the law, and bankova is very attentive , so we rule out the possibility that the busy people forgot, this is the direct responsibility of the head of the secretary of the service or the office of the president. therefore, this is definitely not a random thing. if we are talking about the rome statute, then here again, if you were here, there would be some kind of discussion , you would tell us that they see something. in the hands of the international court of justice, that is, it is not the ukrainian legal system in this case that will determine whether or not to commit a crime , but the international one, and in ukraine, they are very afraid of this, and even the fact that some foreign
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experts there will consider a virtuous judge or no. but imagine the moment that we say listen, we give you the right to determine and judge ukrainian citizens, this is probably the first reason, although you know that ukraine a was mineralized, but we recognized the jurisdiction of the criminal court on the territory of ukraine from the moment of russia's attack on crimea, that is, from 14 of the year, any crimes that are committed on the territory of ukraine fall under the virus of the criminal court, and whether you admit that i am talking about putin or not, it does not matter , mr. olezh, i still ask about the results, it is very symbolic that ukraine kyiv he meets er fomiya kygudu and these calls came to kyiv to moscow, the two largest economies in the world. well, the second and third positions and
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the two leaders of asia, and in fact, they are so different in these two capitals of warring countries. my question is, first of all, mine the question is actually internal. we still seem to hope that we can somehow come to an agreement with china, or are we afraid of somehow pushing it to more aggressively support russia in this war? i don't care if they are afraid or not afraid to annoy him, but this moment, on the other hand, we could definitely take advantage of it now , for example, with the rapprochement, here's your opinion . should we, well, in the end, you will decide because china seems to have completely decided who it supports in this war well, he just hasn't sent his people's army soldiers here and he hasn't sent their fighter jets. well, according to
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the results of the visit, the interview of the chinese leader to the american agency cnn , the main points putin is a cool dude, ukraine attacked russia and russia will definitely win this war well, what can i add here, but speaking of ukrainian-chinese relations, well, china did not perceive ukraine from the very beginning. the orange revolution was juicy for him. further, in the entire history of independence, the warmest relations between ukraine and china were during the time of the scientist and regionalists. they were very proud, they told me that they were international persons there, viktor fedorovych established relations, remember many billions of contracts, uh, we should have already had a high-speed tram for a billion dollars there to the boryspil airport. we gave almost
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the whole of kherson for rent for agricultural products. that is, it is very telling that the closest relations or the peak of active contacts was in the yanukovych region, this speaks of the value system of china itself, and therefore i think that ukraine here, ukrainians do not have some illusions, but the visit of the prime minister of japan is very symbolic, because i think that the time was chosen precisely taking into account the fact that at this time women are still meeting with putin and that the agreement on the united states between australia and japan was recently signed there uh and britain and britain bought australia the most modern submarines with nuclear engines, this has very sharply affected the ability of democratic education in the part of china that believes that this is its
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soft sub-ship or, as it were, a near foreign country , because china is there claims very much that it is exclusively his king's interests, everything has fundamentally changed . but for ukrainian diplomacy, well, i hear that now the olympians there can send an ambassador to china, but there has been no ambassador there for several years, it is difficult for us, there are only economic things because china reacts to economic things, but from the point of view of values, from the point of view of whom is china with whom is the chinese er brothers forever, well, it’s not with ukrainians , it’s now er, with putin, with russian, but er, with taiwan in taiwan, well that's a little bit, as i know many americans of the ukrainian diaspora who always reproachfully say to the ukrainians that they obey taiwan always supported you
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during the times when you were oppressed there in the soviet union taiwan actively advocated for the independence of ukraine and it will surrender its independence because there is a certain such thing a moral obligation because it is clear that the good guys are taiwan and it is clear that the relationship between china and taiwan is similar, although it is the rich people who don't like each other very much, they say there is no need to compare them, but they are similar to russia's claims against ukraine, and that is why china is watching so closely i don't think, by the way, that they really believe that russia will win, they need to economically take everything they can from russia from russia. they expect the possibility of strengthening their nuclear potential. well, what does russia want? now it is weakened more than ever it is a junior partner and in general it is the whole policy towards
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russia it now speaks more about the geopolitical ambitions of china china wants to say something i am now the leader of the autocratic pack there is no glass here is iran here is north korea here is russia and here is how china and sit down with me, let's talk. yes, sir, but thank you, unfortunately there is no time, but the russians say that in the next year they hope for the growth of their economy, if you could write your reaction in one maximum two words, what would you say thank you oleg rybachuk, head of the presidential secretariat in 2005-2006, economist, political banker, chairman and co-founder of the center i was imported by us, and now we will be with us rostyslav smirnov , former adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, we are adding him to our marathon
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mr. rostislav good morning mr. rostislav here these night attacks on ukraine are the next of these drones that were flying and unfortunately there are victims also in ukraine in ryzhishchev, three people were killed in a hostel. what the russians wanted to neutralize in that hostel is some kind of critical object infrastructure, why? why this particular hostel? see, i don’t have an answer to this question. i’ll explain because i didn’t actually have it when they shot at other kindergartens. i didn’t have it when they shot at the shopping center in kremenchug . they didn’t have it when they shot. on a residential building in dnipro. it seems to me that it is not worth looking for logic where it simply does not exist. their main task is that even if you
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ask now about their goals. blackout but nevertheless, well, that is, if you talk from the point of view of logic, why do they continue, i can't understand well, in fact, there is, therefore, there is only one answer that does not have an absolutely logical basis, let's say such a basis, they just continue to terrorize so that the country continues to be in a state of war, for the country to continue, well, how do they see it, to continue a certain chaos and fear among the population, so that, again, because of this terrorism, which they have become accustomed to, so that people are ready to take from the whole negotiations, they they have been fighting us since the 14th year, a full-scale war has been going on for more than a year and still, they still haven't understood us, that is, they still treat us, how they treat their internal slaves, who are used to doing everything because of fear, because of fear, people are ready for anything
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only here it is a completely different story and the ukrainians will never sit down with them for this victory because of fear and we will continue to do what we have been doing and they do not and will not achieve anything by this, but it seems to me that they still cannot understand this from the warnings john cyberbee e-e from the coordinator of the security council of the united states that russia is probably preparing another offensive attempt as well and our intelligence says that at least 20,000 yes are being mobilized every month by the russians for this offensive e-e how serious is everything and how are our mobilization processes, we are preparing in the same way, we are preparing an offensive army, of course we did not stop this process in principle because it is permanent, let's say permanent in a state of war, primarily because it is necessary to replenish the troops, it is necessary partially
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somewhere to give someone a rest, we must also understand this, but separately, of course, you know that we are preparing a lot of new brigades and newly equipped battalions and brigades that are just mastering, including western weapons, you know that we have an extremely large number of our soldiers are being trained by our western partners abroad, only in germany, you know that we have more than 10,000 soldiers there. i am not talking about other countries . that is why it is extremely important. we have, by and large , two key stages. the first stage is completely er, to stop the offensive potential of the enemy, which is now trying precisely under bakhmut and there they are basically stuck, that is, the key story is serving the enemy, this is the assignment of the maximum maximum losses to him, and the other is preparation for our counteroffensive, when it will be, of course, no one will announce it we can only talk about this after the fact, but we are clearly preparing for this purpose, including the creation of eight
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brigades on the basis of the national guard of ukraine , the national police of ukraine and the border guard services of ukraine, that is precisely why they were called the offensive guards and not the defense guards or simply the combat brigades and so on , that is why we are usually preparing for the main task - our partners from abroad help us with equipment, but we must understand that it is not to move there conditionally i don't know there , the family's machine gun went from the mechanics box to the box. no , very often such weapons take quite a long time, and i remember that one of you remembers even on foreign visits when zelensky was there talking when they spoke for example, for pilots, it takes 1.5 years at some e-e anti-aircraft complexes, the minimum training period is 6 months, ours mastered it in 4-6 weeks ago, it all took time just in order to, including, prepare
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our soldiers to master this technique and to have the opportunity to really counterattack in the spring, as we all really hope for this, so the process is going on and i think that everything will definitely work out for us. in this regard, new brigades and new battalions are being formed at the expense of the mobilized. who are these people and how does the mobilization generally proceed? in different ways, there are actually many moments of the first moment - these are usually volunteers who pass by themselves and are recorded . well, for example, if we now talk about the offensive guards, then the main backbone, by and large , is not even so much volunteers, although you can call them volunteers, but people who worked in these units there or in the ministry of internal affairs, or the national police of ukraine or the national guard of ukraine, but they are already officers there, for example, or reserve soldiers, or have they already completed
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their service there, and so on. and they have now returned. somewhere in physical places, but they have a desire to release, they want to be tangential to our victory, tangential to the liberation of these territories, and they usually join, they are transferred to the offensive guard in order to prepare for what you know there already all brigades are trained and prepared to defeat the enemy. thank you, mr. rostislav rostislav smirnova, the special envoy of the minister of internal affairs of ukraine was with us, they talked about how the mobilization is going on, our marathon is also going on , right now, very soon, there will be a fresh selection of news about that what is happening in the country, we will remind you that the air alert is ongoing. we urge you to stay in shelters and, er, not to risk your life and health, and no, you still
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