[000:00:00;00] they can contact us once more so we can once again duplicate exactly where to contact the representative office of the red cross in ukraine and first of all issue a search application and secondly you receive financial assistance, that is, in the description under with video data, we can, yes, we can post it, and you also know that i was quite emotional in this conversation, is this what you know from mariupol, from other cities, children who were orphans, they were imported to russia, yes, and the conversation was so interesting. when i asked them a question, listen and we have children there, in fact, they are in captivity. well, it is, it is, it is, hmm, it is deportation

, and it is not agreed upon, and how exactly do you return these children , right? the guarantor of the geneva convention, you have to do it, right? the red cross said that we only work based on the statements of the movement of relatives, i say which relatives, children are not orphans, orphans, it should be, well , the state of ukraine can contact you, and what is its guardian of orphans? i only know of three orphanages that were taken from mariupol in russia and i am more than complete that this list is inexhaustible, i am a person at first snorted yes and then she said that uh, let's ask and we have prepared a request now to the state bodies of ukraine, for some reason no one deals with this, i don't know why, and we prepared these requests so that the state of ukraine, well, the court, yes

, the state of ukraine there in to the person of some body turned to the red cross specifically regarding the orphans who were taken away, forcibly deported and who are now in the territory of the russian federation, these are our children , these are our common children, we have to return them , we have already mentioned the state, i think that many the question will arise where the state is in this process, of course the state is the first who should deal with all these areas, the issues that volunteers are working on, we understand that now we are so that now we are helping to a certain extent, why well , you know, i am just now sitting and thinking, lord, 14th year déjà vu, yes, the state should also do this, yes, i also had cases when we

negotiated with the representatives of the border guard of the russian federation while sitting on zhilianske at night, to bring out under white flags the wounded who were in encirclement we agreed, then i went to the ministry of defense and were on duty there waiting for the helite who blocked the entrance to the ministry of defense and i had situations when i had 33 people who were not encircled and were wounded lying in the fields i got a call at night from the helite he told me about such a situation you know, there are many questions and now it’s the same. why is the state not involved? we have a ministry of social policy, have you seen somewhere that their work has not been done in a year? for a minute, the veterans are dead, a dead child was born. in general, but at the same time there are large budgets, i just wanted to say that this year they received 500 million hryvnias for their work, the

ministry of finance, the ministry of education, the ministry of veterans and the ministry of health , where is it? yura, while i'm there, tanya, you can somehow cooperate with the state, although some to the right. listen, well, with great difficulties, with great cases, with great ones. probably the force that compels the state in the form of officials who are responsible for certain areas to start doing something, because if it is our initiative, if you don't have our appeals, there won't be any of our e-e efforts, to be honest, i don't know if there will be

any sense for my direction, i will say that we managed to build quite effective and productive relations with the coordination headquarters of the gur, this is exactly the organization that deals with the rights of prisoners and missing persons. that is, we communicate quite adequately, we caress, they have part of the social services they provide to people who apply to the coordination headquarters. but there are cases when they simply cannot provide this very help to this family, then they turn to us and ask to help this family, and of course we take such a family under our care because, well, i do not i have a moral right. well, these are civilian families, or why can’t you help because the situation is a little better with the military , for example, there are such social requests, i will tell you in the zaga. yes, the mother of the prisoner of war

is quite sick, she is not even needed medical care medical care yes eh and eh in the coordination headquarters of the mountains they have neither funding nor authority to provide this mother with the necessary medical care then it would be possible to send this mother to the ministry of veterans who should take care of it and provide my mother with normal medical care and finance or the ministries of social policy, but we are now talking about two ministries that create the illusion of a living first war, they do not reflect, they reflect, they generally are actually a dead structure, that is why in fact, they cannot provide assistance to this family, and therefore the coordination headquarters can refer such a person to us, and we take this person under

their care and provide them with the necessary assistance, also when a family of a civilian prisoner , for example, a family of a military prisoner , for the most part, but not all of them receive it seems that they will receive 4,200 from the minsotssu for payments to the families of civilian prisoners, and imagine if there are three or four, five children in such a family, and imagine, kyiv region , kyiv region, in the villages of kyiv region, when the russians left, they took away civilian men and women and old people were taken away simply to cover the columns so that our columns would not be broken up, and now these people are in fact in captivity of the russian federation since april, because of their exchanges , it is extremely difficult, very difficult, to

extract one person at a time for several exchanges. it is very difficult to change these people and their families, they are now in dire need due to the fact that this is actually the loss of a breadwinner in every such family. and here the ministry of social affairs should be connected or issue the status of loss of a breadwinner and assign a pension or excuse me in some way to support if i wanted to tell a very painful story about which i had a meeting with an employee of the ministry of defense yesterday . on paper, i'm sorry. according to this , according to the law, a person who submits an application up that uh, his levels there lost contact, that's what

it's called communication, yes uh, after that, this information must enter the register after the entry of this information into the register, this person receives the status of e-e that e-e the family has someone disappeared without a face and from that moment six months pass, if 6 months pass and the person is not found, then he is considered dead and already there some payments begin, but we have one problem. we don't have such a register year of war, year of war and we don't have such a register, people go there as military men, well, those who have lost military men, they constantly turn to the ministry of defense. said

the representative of the ministry of defense says, god, these are the certificates i give. i don't understand what i'm giving, i say yes. that's what it's about. it's about what the state has . it has such a structure. she prescribed it and approved it, but it doesn't work . the people who apply. the first thing they apply for is probably the preparation of documents . yes, because, yes, this is the very first question, because we have a very big problem of polish citizens, polish citizens, yes, civilians in general. i disappeared here said about this story of the dead. well, it's easier for the dead, but we have a situation, well , this was even a discovery for me recently

. that they died after being wounded, you understand, this is beyond the pale, that is, people who have lost someone from their relatives there have to go through 50 circles of hell in order to get the status of a family, you can also pay in relation to the payments listen to the declared 15 million well, let's be honest now it is clear, don't ever pay it, er, now i will develop a proposal for monday , how can you get out of this situation, er, how can you solve it, you know that you probably know that literally in january, the minister of defense already signed an order that the first three million

they are still paying, and other funds are being stretched for 40 months, but i can do it for the next one, i am more than sure that this will not happen either, because the ministry of defense has its own budget, and the income items for this budget are protected, this salary is a weapon this food is protected articles of income are what must be paid for everything else. if there are no funds , then there are none. well, it is either to hope for international support or for reparations, and someday they will be, and to close it so for reparations. yes, i am there. also, in the summer, we joined the draft law that was written on reparations. because in order to go and say that we need to adopt this law internally, the fact remains that now there is no money, we painted, yes

, there is no money. help to the families of the dead, they say. yes, they already pay such a large amount. why should good people help them? well, it's not like that. well, it 's not like that. sometimes between the fact of the death and the first money that comes to the family, it takes several months, several months more. sometimes in we have already talked to several people from our applicants. for example, in march , a defender died, but their body could not be returned for a long time. there, the military unit does not go to communicate with the parents, because there is a problem communication with the military commander, they do not provide the necessary documents, you understand

, the people themselves are in shock . here is the problem with this, and with this the problem with the fact that some people in the military units who are authorized to communicate with their native days in the military commissars are actually not trained and they behave very often not at all what is not humanly and inadequate and this is a serious problem and right here we have excellent partners, this is the center for the protection of human rights, the ukrainian center for the protection of human rights, etc., who provide legal assistance, who help people to go through this entire bureaucratic machine, who help people to issue all these letters requests, they do a lot of work and now in fact all the people who contacted us and indicated in the questionnaire that they do not have formalized

status documents, we redirect them there to this ukrainian center for the protection of human rights so that they can at least start the stage preparation of documents yes, memorandum, we cooperate with them and they do a lot in this direction, because they have lawyers who specialize in this , who know where to go, how to go, how to request documents , and what requests to submit, and this is extremely important and it is essential help for such do you still know such families when you start studying the requests and see what people are asking for, and you start to get traumatized?

well, you get traumatized. you don't realize how this is even possible, for example, there is the donetsk region , which is under the control of ukraine, there is a village in which a family died, in which the breadwinner of the house died, the house was destroyed, and you don't have to live, children, you don't understand the state of payments, there are no payments we have a lot of inquiries in the kyiv region, yes, in the kyiv region , we have a lot of inquiries

. there is no roof on the house. there is no house there. that of families they will receive help now, because when they say this, well, it is not true today and it, uh, eliminates the problems that such families have, and when we start saying that, let's help, we in uh, they answer us yes. the state provides , the state does not provides and once again i want such a communication failure , yes, you understand, it is not a communication right. we are saying diametrically opposite things. nurses all these families are our joint social responsibility of the entire

state of ukraine, and we will not be able to get rid of this problem, because if we get rid of it, we will have very big problems in the future, so how can we join your fund to help our to the audience, where is the child? we can also leave the props . i think we will show them how every ukrainian can help your fund and in this way help our families of our soldiers , you know, they are conscious ukrainians, they are already help the army, i think so, i hope that your viewers definitely help, but if you feel a need, if you feel an interest , if you want to help, of course , you can transfer any amount that you can send to you, e.e., if something like this happened in your family grief and need legal

help, psychological help, even humanitarian help, you can apply for filling out the questionnaire, the questionnaire is published on the page of the ukrainian dream foundation, you can find it on facebook, as well as on instagram and in let's go to this or mine page and there you can find a link to it fill out this questionnaire now we are changing the system a bit, but it will not affect the collected data that we collect . we are currently processing all these tasks. we are looking for any possibility to close if it is private a company that produces something that is needed. for these families, it is in particular clothes, shoes, etc., you can certainly contact the data, whether it is an individual or me, and we

will gladly accept help even with finished products, we are actually asked a lot for clothes and shoes and some household items and products and all this is needed. and we are ready to accept this help and will be extremely grateful. i would like to add an e to what tanya said that there are details now , the details are on the pages, and we can leave the details, you can give them in e-e in the titration , but uh, i think about another time, every ukrainian in uh, well-known places and in well-known, let's say, internet uh, communication uh, places will see uh, or banners, or information, or a transition,

uh, link to uh- e page of the dream foundation and when you see it i refer to viewers, when you will see it, go, if you even leave 10 hryvnias, they will help if each of us does it, this is a powerful, very powerful story, if each of us does it, then we will be able to change the future , the only thing i can add is that even when people do not have the opportunity to help financially, it is very important to always see who is next to you, maybe there are neighbors living next to you who need banal hugs for support , maybe the mother of a prisoner lives nearby who needs help with groceries or spending time

her to the hospital, maybe a young woman with a small child lives nearby, or a man is in captivity or died and this woman needs help with taking care of the children, just be attentive to those around you and this society in which you are now helping, which you can now help with your attention it will then return this attention and this same help to you, this is very important, well, that's right. that's exactly what she said that each of us, uh, i'm saying that i'm like a mother of three boys, yes . there are such families that they need more attention. well, tell your child that they have invited you to the stairs. hmmm, there is time to run together, er, come back to see a real mother with a small child nearby. yes, who

does not sleep there and just say that well, come on, i will walk in the park for three hours with my having it is simple to be more humane and to understand that all those families that surround us are very many, very many of them you already know it hurts me a lot when a month ago i was asked to be asked to help a close person and last night she wrote to me, my brother died not so much it it hurts. i understand that this is such a large number of people who have lost someone. some of their relatives simply have old parents left. there they were, there was no family. well, we know. yesterday we buried dmytro da vinci, he had no

children, but parents remain, mothers remain, dad remains, we can. the bride, too. well, there is a separate story. yes, there is a lot of pain, that’s all . parents remain, parents may need banal food, banal medicine, banal , just come and listen to them how their child grew up, because it is important to them, that is, me i appeal to everyone who hears the interview center, just to everyone, look around you, see these families, see these eyes in which there is complete pain, complete suffering, and a complete complete need for your attention, your help, and do something for them, even if you reach out to hug them. and you will say that the speaker is that it will be very important i want to end

the conversation with an appeal let's not be indifferent let's remember that the war is going on there will be even more such stories and don't forget about it let's think about what the state is now engaged in our victory, and these families. these children we talked about are our responsibility, so join the fund, we and the details and all the links and the questionnaire also for if you need such help , we will leave it in the description. thank you for this conversation, dana yarova, dad because tatyana complex thank you, thank you, you want to wake up rested and full of strength , but from the old mattress, the whole body constantly hurts, and you can't turn around on the sofa, you can't find a comfortable position, you need to improve your sleeping place, meet

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