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, an actor, the head of the sales department. the only son, congratulations, friends, this is my face, i am dmytro chistyakovy, my guest today is journalist and volunteer yevgenia virilych from the heroic city of kherson , yevgenia virloch - journalist, volunteer , editor-in-chief of one of the most famous

kherson publications, watermelon city, for many years she is fighting the so-called russian peace in relation to a full-scale invasion, she organized ukrainian actions and events in kherson with the beginning of the great war and occupation, yevgenia did not leave her beloved city together with her husband, continued to work underground , fight against enemy propaganda, convey the truth about events in ukraine and the crimes of russians and in a few months they had to go, the fsb organized a real hunt for the couple , they were saved by a miracle, the cat helped, and november 11 was mrs. yevhenii's second birthday together with other temporary migrants from the south, she celebrated the day of the liberation of her native kherson as a big holiday in the center of the capital, so it's true. yes, on november 11 , you had a big holiday, probably the biggest holiday in your life and what it was. what day was it? how did you find out ?

about the liberation and what was the first thing they did? they called kherson , no, first we started crying, and i guessed about the liberation of the city on the eve of the 10th. messages about how they will find out how the armed forces of ukraine are approaching the city, and i, in all public places, simply forgetting about ethics, asked them to be silent very sharply, and it was very scary , in fact, because they were absolutely sure about what the enemy would do, what they would do russians, we were not sure. on february 10, on november 11, i had a training session in the center of kyiv, and on the 11th , i am also an old fan

of poland. family maybe a little er and i planned to go to the embassy after the training and to put flowers or a toy is just a sign of respect, and she was in such a red and white outfit, i have such a sports suit, a city suit , she even said that i came to training in it, and from the very morning there were messages on social networks that ours were going somewhere around 11- in my opinion, on the 12th, photos appeared from the main square of the city, ukrainian flags, the first thought was that it was a provocation , i was very afraid for the people there, i have relatives and close friends. i was very afraid because i know the price of provocation in russian. i know that they are capable but an hour passes two in the city it's relatively quiet and there are messages about what kind of sub-city it is. well, the first thing we did was we cried and answered the questions

of all those who ask us, well, it's not photoshop, but i managed to contact my relatives, how is it not strange somewhere two days later and then a week later because there were problems with communication, if you remember , people just celebrated in the square by lighting a bonfire because they had no light and the sample was simply terrible, and under the headlights of the cars , i noticed, and since in in november, it is warm in the city, so you can celebrate all night in kyiv it's cold here, it's very warm, and people really celebrated for several days because they couldn't believe their luck, but i know those who learned about the liberation on 13.14, the light still made itself known, and there are people who

only found out after two or three days. well, the first thing what were we doing, we cried, we answered the calls, oh class a-a there is such a throw-in well, i don’t know the throw-in, there are posts by different journalists that people in kherson are now regretting that she was released, they say when there was an occupation there was no shelling is this completely fake wrong absolutely fake ya i understand that there is probably still some left, and they are probably so rare in life that it is like an archaeological find to find such a person, ah, in fact, no, this is really not true , because the first thing that people told me is, well, my acquaintances, my friends, we breathe freely. when i i came home for the first time after my release, it was in december, it was already terrible shelling , and actually the whole time i spent at home it was a time under shelling and my friends asked who had seen me, do you feel the air in

svoboda now, even just in private conditions, when we talk there, for example, in messengers, i hear the sounds of explosions, and i ask oh, you are loud, you can hide there , and this phrase, so that there are no russians, it is literally at every step, that's why people do not feel sorry, on the contrary, this is anger it grows more and more with each shelling and with each injured and killed person. it simply grows incredibly. people have changed so much in their views. if earlier you could meet a tolerant attitude towards russians in the city , now there is a tolerant attitude towards anyone from russians are very rare, that's why it's an absolute waste that people regret, no , people regret lost things in lost places, people regret lost museums, not artifacts, people

really see when they learn about another russian abduction of some valuables or killed people, well. they regret this. and in fact, those who know the shelling were during the occupation, they just didn’t talk about it very loudly, uh, the russians, and chornobayivka itself , well, only we know about more than 20 such loud explosions, there were more than 20 of them, that’s for sure what we heard was the shelling when the russians entered, it was constant shelling in front of the places, it was the shumen tauri antonivka, and so on , it was loud, the russians were shooting very loudly, that 's why even the thesis that they did not shoot under the russians about the occupation, it was false , absolutely also false, well, we understood so what kind of spirit is there now in kherson, what is life like there, how terrible everything is, we see footage on

the internet on television, but you were there and saw live how much it is terribly shot. of any other city yes, it is very difficult in some neighborhoods , we collect feedback from people about how they live, maybe we can comment. for example, there are no pharmacies near the houses, people are forced to go somewhere, and i think that everyone in the country now knows that when the city is under fire, every extra step is difficult to go anywhere, the occupiers stole public transport when they left, so

just go somewhere - this is a national task ah ah the city is very littered because the same landfill was mined, it took time for demining, the occupiers stole all the equipment, that is, while this equipment was delivered, i will donate it, but the city is there for some grant funds or just help, that is, in fact, all communal transport for housing and communal services, public transport they did not take out almost all of it. and it is precisely the establishment of the economy in the city that is very difficult, and there are people in queues in pharmacies and shops because there are not many of them. and by the way, they informed us about inflated prices, that is, prices are higher than in others in free cities, for example, but not as high as they were for buyers, the prices there were simply insane, the selection of products and products in general was better, but there is not much of it , but there is an

opportunity to order delivery by nova poshta. was temporarily closed because someone was hit, one of the workers was fired upon , the car was fired upon, the warehouse was fired upon, everything is very difficult . and in some neighborhoods , there is still no light for several months because they are being fired upon russians and i can understand the logic of people who don't leave there, i myself had the same logic. i really didn't want to leave the city . after four and a half months of occupation , we were waiting for the armed forces. we had a task. why didn't you want to, february, you are famous activist, journalist, did you understand that they go after people like you in the first place, and you still did not leave when it was still relatively safe to do it, well, first of all, it was safe , it was really relatively safe, it was relatively safe somewhere until february 26, then

when they entered the city, it was chaotic shelling, and they did not just enter, they entered because of battles, there were battles , and the armed forces tried to stop them on the antoniv bridge , it was terrible shelling of antonivka, this is a suburb, and the russians entered very badly , armed to the teeth and shot just at random. that is they fired at civilian cars, for example, we had a lot of dead people, the same tragedy of buzkov in moscow on the first of march, these are just people who went out to defend their own, almost unarmed, and they ran into absolutely armed men we understood the russians on february 25. we understood that we will definitely not be at mass events, that is, there will be a full program of hunting there, i remember how crimea was captured. that is , we cannot have any public events, and then there was the feeling that there is nowhere better

there will be nothing but at home, we have to defend our home. who but us will leave the house that he left, and this was in my head at some stage the understanding that we are now experiencing unique events and we have to live through these events for at least some time in order to understand the most complete what what happens because if you find yourself in the occupation, it is very terrible but an invaluable experience, really a person, but honestly i love this phrase, i repeat it wherever i can if i didn't believe in god before february 24, i would have started believing in him exactly this a day ago because there were a lot of coincidences that we could actually survive and we didn't go until the last one because sometime in april we came to understand that we don't know whether it is safer for us to go than to stay

or not, that is, there is such a fear of leaving , all the protests have already ended, that is the russians controlled everything, so we understood . on april 25, they entered the city council, kicked out the city council officials. then when on the fourth, well, we were hunted. already nearby, there are those locations where we were, that is, i know that you have moved many times, you have seen them, someone told you that they are coming for you two times already, they told me , um, they told me what exactly are interested well, we are interested, it's very, uh, i say it softly, yes, how exactly are they interested

, i never asked because i understand any message in the sms messenger, it can be provocative, i don't even write now, and during the occupation i never wrote to people the first of which i'm not sure where they are, it's actually like a skill, uh, if i don't know what's going on with a person, i don't write it because, well, it could be the last sms in my life, i can provoke it in me, it's been honed since the crimea, eh hmm, and when we were told that we were interested in you, i wasn't i didn't ask for any details, i understood that we had to somehow change the location to hide and so on. once i met with those who were looking for us. again, this is some kind of magic . if there was no witness who saw everything, i would have thought that i was dreaming. because i went a little crazy because we left, i couldn't go to a cafe or a store anymore, did we live anywhere or did we already

change addresses somewhere, this was more or less a light period, if you can call it light at all. we didn't go to cafes or shops. we asked not too many friends flashing with us because, well, who will be the first to reach out to friends? we are quite public, we do not hide friendships and will look for them through friends, that's why, er, acquaintances, friends, friends , verified people are verified again - this is a word of mouth, that is, i trusted my friends and no one he didn't let me down and once again we asked him to bring us something from chemistry products and we got to know him, he calls and it's so simple, hmm, it occurred to her to say zhenya, let 's give him coffee while he can. well, you're just breathing, aren't you

sitting indoors all day coffee brews we drink together. okay, it was not possible to go to a cafe, although some cafes were still working , it was theoretically possible to go, but i didn't know what the appearance would be. i went out. that before the invasion, when we were in poland, we rested. there we bought new clothes and i had the opportunity we had the opportunity not to wear what we were seen in. this is also , again, a magical coincidence. during the occupation, i did not wear what i was seen in i went out earlier in sports that are soft, well, only my friends saw it. maybe we are sitting drinking coffee , a black car arrived, four people got out of it, i will never forget them. two in civilian

clothes. armed to the teeth, and i understand, you know, especially those who live in the south, they see not local people, we all got a little tanned in the south , these absolutely white faces, and well, over time, especially in our work , you understand who works in the organs. it's something such a russian fsbshne, maybe it’s their guard over there , because in the fsb, because it’s such a look and these military men, hmm, they said hello. there were people we don't know. they recognized me no matter what i was wearing. they went to our entrance. i called my husband and told him not to open the door, don't go out. the fsb came and said they

were knocking on the stamp, yes. but again , our paranoia very clearly m-m drilled several years i didn't go out without the key to that apartment because of the house we were supposed to come to in case there was a knock on the door, we had a plan to jump off the balcony, quickly packing up the floor, we have the third floor, and there are still superstructures down there it's not high. it's like jumping from the second time. well, maybe we would have liked something, but you survived, that is, the plan was to pack the cat, grab the alarm backpack and run. we had it like that. when we sat drinking coffee, we drank coffee for about a few minutes

20 made it, and in those 20 minutes, two neighbors came out from the er floor. there were no neighbors, no one opened the door, and they went to the neighbors . what is the truth? during this time, i managed to relocate. call my relatives, er , who sent other people who helped to move . the same story with the fact that these people came, uh, you had to move well, yes, we moved, we didn't have to jump from the balcony, they left the left people to watch, well, it was clearly visible in the yard but again, we were very lucky that they probably didn't have our photos well, i don't know how else to explain it maybe all our collaborators were busy preparing for the celebrations there are many sacred dates, but i know that on that day several activists were kidnapped, that is, on this very day , maybe these are the same people . i will never

forget their faces. the media slipped by. so our meter was broken. but it was at the very beginning of march 5, when it was the largest rally, the first huge rally in the city. we are already on february 25. it is clear to us that we will not participate in public events. we did not go anywhere, but we actively wrote to us were our readers were insiders were those who informed us, we passed over those who were there and because of that we also stayed , so as not to abandon our readers, to convey the truth, in principle, this is our work and part of our life, you know when people write well even if you don't go, we read you, well, it was actually very difficult to tell people that you went, for example, and people will

already believe you because you're definitely not there anymore, you don't understand the specifics anymore, well, that was one of the factors for us to stay because our audience is m-m me i will not say that it is huge, we are not, we have no desire to build up a huge audience, we have an audience that must be its own , it is big enough for us to appreciate each and every one, that is why when our readers questioned us, they asked to publish not on the website, but in telegram because the site does not open, but telegram opens during the occupation, we did it. that is, we went to the meeting on the fifth. as i understand it, on march 5, we decided to check where we are because we have nowhere. and on that day, the russians tried to block communication. and for some time there on for half an hour or an hour, two operators lost connection, one operator was working uh and our light goes out uh, how many meters do we

have on the stairwell, so we immediately went to see and pulled out the meter, we are so romantic what is she all the same it's in my head. we thought that it might be some kind of metal bracs ran all over the place. well, who knows, only yours was snatched away, but only ours was snatched away . we are such ukhty and on the third floor. only ours is on the second floor, all the targets are on the fourth, all the targets. we realized that it is just well, we tried to check if we are at home or not and we are on some kind of emergency or some other i, well, i don’t know what it is, we just continued to work , we continued to get news, they send us photos, we check, well, it was so internal that the photos had to be checked so that there were no people’s faces or there were any locations and so on, we put them we continue to write in the meantime we take care of the fact that either we arrive somewhere or

connect some kind of light in short , as it did not appear to me, we did not write the betrayal of the traitor in us, you won the counter, we quietly we continued to work. it worked. the next day there were rumors that we left for poland in the first days . why did we actually save two months for this in poland? they knew there were hints about you. they wanted to cooperate with you or just that you wanted to cooperate with us . i am very. situation in the second year yes and we have known them for a long time, we knew their price, we understood that they are, sir, you will not be with us, we will either exchange fund or they will give us