[000:00:00;00] yes, in short, we didn't express ourselves in any way, we didn't write betrayal betrayal you won the counter with us, we quietly continued to work it worked the next day there were rumors that we left for poland in the first days , why is poland actually here and we saved two months very much - they followed it very much that we are in poland, he is in poland . and what they wanted from you, you already understand, well, they knew there were hints about you. they wanted to cooperate with you, or they just wanted to cooperate with us. very well, but not bad, i knew who kyrylo strumoksov was. we are familiar with volodymyr, the balance is for the whole of ukraine, these names opened the situation in the 22nd year, yes.

we are either the exchange fund or they will not give us life and i don’t think no we did not offer cooperation all this time we never once threatened yes and no one offered us cooperation and it seems to me that it was either for the exchange fund to take us prisoner or simply to kill them they mentioned collaborators and very there were a lot of collaborators of the zhdunovs of the russian world, that's what we call them, or did they have a lot before that, who called russia , so if you compare it with what i saw in the crimea, it was a lot, after all, they were processed much longer , and now i'm studying history a little more and then i saw it. crimea was processed in a purposeful way. there were a lot of zhduns of the russian world in kherson, they were not so much zhduns of the russian world as those

who loved russia. yazeki speak er, well, for me there is a difference, er, although in everyday life i can speak with four mothers, for example, but in public and now mostly it's just ukrainian , there were a lot of people who were nostalgic for the past and thereby promoted both that and the russian world , imperial ideas very many people, and i am very pleased to feel it in independence from the age, admit that it was imperial, that it was russian, that it is necessary to raise one's ukrainian and are very interested in stories and so on, but in general, if you compare it with how it could there are so many collaborators, so many of those who got carried away by fast money, there are many of those who nurtured it for years, again , we were in power, let's face

reality, in our power, there would be a block balance in well, we have seen it, so it is now in the kremlin next to the dictator. to be honest, the first such unpleasant surprise for me was that i did not expect from a person that he was a collaborator. it was about the 10th month of the large-scale invasion in november. i learned about one of the people who went to cooperate, and he cooperated i already left in october or september, i found out about it in november and it was unpleasant for me, i did not expect this from him, all the others for me were completely predictable expectations, they went well, we know that some of the streams of garbage have already gone to kobzon to other collaborators on the left bank or in moscow, i know of several who tried to get certificates for housing in russia and are now howling in the moscow swamps in the literal sense because everything turned out to be not so rosy for them there

. no one is waiting for them there, no one likes them... is that's why there are quite a lot of them, and another thing is that there are also many who have not officially appeared anywhere. now they will wear vyshyvankas, if they have not already worn them, that is, there are such and such, too, this is the most terrible thing, you, uh, four, five months are also needed 4.5 months, just under the nose of the enemy, they continued to work, live, i don't know, an underground life, don't make up some numbers. and how was she considered to leave , what was the driving force, so what are you? fears yes when we were recommended by our colleagues and relatives who left guys, leave, leave, yes, the armed forces will come, they will come and they will be released, but the question is, when and at what price do you leave, because we don’t need to become

an exchange fund. we were very afraid, we were really afraid, the further we went, the more we probably actively monitored all possible means of leaving, i won’t tell you the details, they monitored but you understand that at the checkpoint there you should have been on the lists of those fsbs . under the control of ukraine, because it was completely impossible to leave, just opening up, and we took only summer clothes, such a change, a cat , by the way, a cat. i know that he helped

you to leave calmly , just to understand how much i love animals and relatives. to buy many medicines for my relatives and to buy a sedative for the cat so that it would leave with him, but he was very sick, but the weather was in our favor , july, and on this very day it became cool, and for the first time, he cheered up the whole bus, it was mi-mi-mishno it was very nice, we had children there who also took care of him and they were interested. and secondly, it somewhat softened the departure as such, we were just a couple with two bags and a cat. well, nothing interesting, two mobile phones hmm no one expects such things well, it is clear that social networks were not just cleaned, but not ours, but we can

talk a little about it, everyone, well, most people already know without details, of course, but the fact that you cannot carry anything extra, i can say for sure none thing is not worth your life only living creatures. you have to take them out with you, but the idea that you have to go is another rating for this cat . we'll see him now, by the way, he's already distracted, eh , the kadyrivs, that's right, how was it, well, they just came in and really scared us with them well, in principle, they can be at roadblocks. well, there are no adequate russians, you just have to learn it for a long time. and we were warned that the most wild are the academies, and we were ready for anything, but when they saw the animals in the cabin they

softened, they became a little like that they checked bags and people with softer ones, yes, they checked bags and people, but without any malice that we saw. we were standing in line at a well-known roadblock there , we saw what was happening even with my poor eyesight. and we went with two and not some stupid ones. i don’t remember it anymore. it was such a stress that i was definitely an adventure. who are you? what kind of jokes are you? well, if it’s russian. well, that’s right, we don’t really understand each other anymore . i’m a stand-up fan just recently, and i really like i like ukrainian stand-up polish british i absolutely do not understand russian humor at all, because they have, well, everything is different in them. and these little animals are distracting, first of all, it is easier with them. that is, you are already driving a little, you are already distracted, you are not so worried. well, i can say that at

the roadblock at the key checkpoint opposite, we saw a car driven by a person who, if he saw us, would give everything to us , it was one of our last adventures. and when we were sitting, speshat put on his glasses and a cap and did not get out of the bus, and we left together with a friend, he’s such a boat, don’t go out, well, it’s hot there, he’s a pulse. apparently, we overestimated the pulses, disks, and studied anatomy, so we explained to him briefly, he’s like a challenge . how are you in general? i went, i missed him earlier, he was already standing there for three days. so, after three hours of waiting on the bus, we got out, that is, we also had such adventures . it was incredibly real. we were very afraid that

they could check our appearance. again , we lived under occupation. during the occupation, we did not lose weight, that is, no one will believe that we sat in the occupation, but on the other hand , it is porridge flour and you sit in place. therefore, honestly, if it was all without witnesses, i would think that i have psychiatry, and there are many, many witnesses to those stories. after my release, we talked about all this with friends, and this phrase was born . the trailer is again about the crossing of the border of mexico and the states, we really missed the music in the background what if it was under the wall, what will happen now when they knock on the door when they

well, they were looking for the locations where we were well , no, they were looking for us they did it because it was next to one of the locations where the collaborators lived and from time to time they just raided there and they knocked on the door and that's it . well, it's hard for me to describe what i felt at that time because you can then shoot a movie or write a book for these uh well, first of all, i am the first thing i did was put it on the door, i didn't collect documents. well, in principle , we had a lot of things ready there, we left the chats . well, simply because we understood what they would see , i want one chat, that would be enough, but we had legends there about who we were. but well, the main thing is to clean the chats, it is possible to roll back to the factory settings, but thank god for the hair. but in reality, with the events that we experienced, there was simply not enough of this music in

the background, which happens in movies when the viewer understands what it will mean now, where is some kind of development tongue culmination so you came to kyiv now, but i know that you immediately began to help the people of kherson, especially after the liberation of the city, that she is a volunteer for the local people, for whom we have different directions of help, it happened in my life that i always help someone part of my life. maybe because i once became a public figure, then a reliable person, after all, a more or less well-known person in the city, and due to this, i can accumulate some resources, so we always helped, and i have excellent, excellent relations with organizations who take care of children with disabilities

, it was very difficult for them in the occupation , one of the management of the organization. transactions, she actually took care of 30-mother families with children with disabilities all this time. i understand that it is absolutely easy to explain. they did not receive alimony, almost because these are mainly families who do not work. well, there is no way to work when a mother is raising a child with a disability alone so that they do not go to the russians for a humanitarian, the head of the public organization did everything possible to simply collect funds in the form of donations, they are fucking people, we collected it on my accounts , i paid everything. in this way, some people also had the impression that i was not there, that i left

, everyone can pay, the worst thing was when they cut off all communication and it was difficult for me to pay, but even there i found a way out. our banking system is beautiful . we are in the agency, or is it the agency that created watermelon city? there was an opportunity to make a crowdfunding system to build it in all these times. right now, right in march, what do we need to do, what did they tell us, here is the price of the funds for the armed forces of ukraine, which you give us a receipt for in two days , you will have a crowdfunding system, well, we fell from such an offer, we could not pass the funds for the armed forces, but the fact that you worked there during the occupation, although the people there were helped so that they were russians went for help and we collected funds for this

platform on march 28, as i recall today , on march 28, a rocket flew, well, again , they don’t shoot at the question, yes, on march 28 , a rocket flew near the orphanage it is located in the stepanivka microdistrict , the village of stepanivka - it is now located in the kherson community, and it is a little destroyed , the block where children who are so deprived of parental care live with the head of this institution heroic leader volodymyr sagaidak, we are friends, we try to help, and i wanted to help the first meeting on the platform. 51, but that too. well, in the conditions of the occupation, this is a very cool amount. and then we

began to collect for medicine for children with disabilities , for food for children with disabilities, i collected on my card because it was more convenient that way they wanted to recruit for the armed forces the boys of our acquaintances who were serving before our departure. they said that they were all there. when we left, i asked. they gave me a list. i say: what did you order earlier ? what did they say ? you said that if you were recruiting for us during the occupation, if they found you and understood that you were recruiting for the ukrainian army during the occupation , we wouldn't have left you alive, we couldn't take such a risk with people who could help us , our people, that's why you didn't have any during the occupation to gather forces for arms because of the occupation while you were there. we didn't tell you anything. i think it's absolutely correct. it's absolutely correct tactics. when we left , we also began to gather our guys who are in

the armed forces of ukraine. these are three different units. we gathered them. there were also fairy tales and we collected two drones, one drone we helped to buy for one, we collected it completely, so we dressed the soldiers , there were also such cases when it was necessary to dress them, that is, in fact, we have such ones well, now there were two left, and one more direction i just remember the directions after the liberation of kherson. when we started with the problem of electricity, terrible generators, generators and power banks on solar batteries. my husband and i remembered that we are engineers, after all, in the first world. and we decided to help raise funds for power banks on solar batteries, this is relevant both then and now in kherson is not kyiv, it’s lviv, there’s always sunshine. and we were surprised that the power bank on solar batteries in kyiv

in winter, well, it’s not very relevant, but in kherson , in principle, you can easily charge in winter from sonechka, we have already sent two power banks, collected for a third, and soon we will also send the husband collected for two generators, which we sent to families living in the suburbs, that is, well , these are the three directions . will you return home give exactly one to kherson give exactly no because we wanted to go in march of this year, but we rented housing for six months, that is, we were sure that even if well, when the city is vacated, we should arrive no earlier than in two or three months, now we understand that it will be delayed for at least another six months, probably less, eh hmm, so there are no dates under which

we will return, well, uh, they are very ghostly, because uh, hmm, i was born in crimea , i lived most of my life in kherson for the first 20 years for half there and there, that is, i know crimea very well, i know feodosia very well. i had to go there during the occupation. it was such a sad experience , but i was there several times during the occupation until i hinted that more you rush there, you will go to one end, but to the other, hardly, here are the conditions, probably on the condition that we can take part in the restoration of the city with full force, because my main condition is that they let me work there, there will be something to work on, there will definitely be a question of whether they will give it now we are working in a different mode. i wouldn’t say that it is a remote mode, because

we kill from time to time in the city, after all, we still have family and friends there, we have our readers who love and appreciate us. well, again, from time to time we are visiting and i went home for the first time not to see what i have at home, although i also have friends there who monitor and live with me. i came to take out the archive of my grandfather, a local historian who lived in bathing, that is, well, i have very peculiar ones, maybe not very grounded, not very i have a grounded goal , that is, more, deeper, to publish somehow properly . well, for the sake of this archive, i entered the historical faculty of the black sea national university named after peter mohyla while under occupation. now i am teaching super

in mykolaiv. i am currently studying there and in parallel in slupsk, in poland, in the polish academy. the topic of my master's thesis is dedicated to the footsteps of my great-grandfather, and i think that i will also work on it in poland, in the polish academy, and the archive should be published a little bit . i'm very glad because i didn't give it to the museum, the library, such proposals were something that stopped me, i don't know what it was then , first of all, it was the need to digitize first, in general, i'm a very digital person, i need to digitize everything to make it cool did not pass because there was already somewhere not there was such a thing absolutely for me, the paper has papers, numbers, that’s why i don’t know how i resisted, because i had such an idea, well

, the archive or the museum, i don’t blame those unconscious librarians and museum workers who remained and archivists because they are very courageous people. they also did a lot. they hid a lot, but from the occupiers, he was armed to the teeth of the occupiers and collaborators who knew where it was. well, they can't resist, so we have a lot of work ahead of us. i'm in mykolaiv because i need to from time to time there to be here, but i see, hmm, as my brother told me, he told me how i ended up in mykolaiv , he says, i never thought that so many people could have such sad faces, so mykolaiv and kherson are cities of sad people now, because the faces are really exhausted and sad we don't know when it will end, and every time i come to mykolaiv or home , i have the impression of happiness that there are no occupiers here

, but the dogs continue to shoot, so when will we return is a big question. thank you for your heroism and i wish you as soon as possible returned to kherson and feodosia, but you bought your man from kherson and feodosia, that you could go to peculiar cities and from there they sent us a watermelon because a year without kherson watermelons is not so sweet. they are the tastiest ukrainians. and since we will also return to crimea, karaite pies from me thank you very much thank you igor this was a face project friends his heroine today evgenia virlych is a journalist and volunteer from our sunny kherson and then the marathon

continues let's continue the intermovych marathon to in the morning in the studio, dmytro chistyakov , the month of hell, he ate blood, the darkness of hunger, bitter eltras, the taste of flour cakes, the smell of tulips, the singing of a nightingale, this is what was forever etched in oleg's memory on the pseudodomovy after the azov uprising. a blog and a prisoner of war for hundreds of our soldiers, oleg , one of the prisoners who returned home, about defense, indomitability, strong faith and a good friend, is life cut short within the walls of the mariupol fortress, listen to his memories friendship and common pain this is what unites these two men azovstal one kept her to the last in the other she took her brother

away forever i will never forget the tulips on the azola and the taste of those breads that were prepared there you know the names of the steel you will also never forget oleg main numovy has been fighting in the east since the 14th year, and on february 24 he joined azov and defended the capital. and already at the end of march, together with his comrades, he flew by helicopter to mariupol, surrounded by russians . they worked in mariupol until april 15, and on the night of 15-16 we had a transition to azovstal for very difficult , very bloody, very scary, but it happened, and then a month from australia , a month of darkness, hunger, and bloody food , what was the most terrible thing was the aviation they destroyed

everything, you know, around the city, when they dismantled buildings with tanks, it was difficult but they held on. and on azov they were already running out of weapons and running out of ammunition. well, it’s no secret that there were problems with food. the guys were dying every day. in search of water or during reconnaissance, among them was oleg’s good friend yevhen, a boilermaker with the call sign cat. he became a very close person. in so it makes sense that he really became like a brother, it turned out that on may 3 he died in azovstaliya , a shot from a tank, let's go, an arm and a leg were torn off, not me . he died. it was difficult to wait every three, three, four, five days for a positive sign or news

from the boys. i wait for 2 3 4 days, then a plus, then a plus, then a plus, and then one night they call me and say that the cat is 200, there are two daughters left without a father, and the wife says dmytro, the brother of yevgeny kotelyanets, they are twins, although they are not at all alike. but all their lives they walked side by side in of age three minutes somewhere probably probably 3 minutes maybe maybe a little less yevgeny sr. that's his mother. then they did a caesarean section and it just so happened that they got the first by sheer luck and we have always walked through life together since childhood, served in the army together, everything they made paths, we never parted ways, only during the invasion of the russian federation, their paths diverged on february 24, the brothers agreed because dmytro has transport, he takes care of the evacuation of women and

children, and yevgeny goes to the army. of course, you have the smallest children in your life and you don’t have any. and you don’t have anyone to call. they don’t have to hear something like that, some words, some words, brother, and this is the most difficult body to take. the rest of the brothers still left him. they buried him at home, and he was buried in the old house . the left side of the body was concussed, the man almost lost his language. he went blind, but he managed to survive and in captivity, it was also cruel that they were burned to the bone with an electric shocker, there was also the fact that they hung them by different hands, who by the legs, who for something else, well, they tortured

the boys very badly, and oleg recalls the first night in captivity i was like some kind of madman sitting on the street and listening to the nightingale because i can't convey the feeling when you after these breaks are permanent after all that you can hear it that is life goes on everything will be normal and that's what happened after 45 days of captivity there was an exchange come on oleg and another 143 ukrainian defenders returned home and many of our heroes are still in captivity and it hurts a lot, it hurts everyone. i hope that our state works on this so that the boys are released . well, you know that every mother, every wife, every child wants them. not ever hug your fiance or husband or son, and now dmytro dreams of returning

the body of his dead brother home and seeing him on his last journey, this will be our mission next, when our boys liberate mariupol, take all our boys home, bury them at home, i really want all the families of the dead to be given support, i really want them to meet, i really want there to be less red tape with papers and more about the people in a few minutes, if we are going to fight, our children will protect their own, and as they were the first to encounter