[000:00:00;00] that's exactly what we have in response to the russians, who , well, they don't follow any rules of war. russia has never followed the rules of war. she is an invader. and she has never lowered the appetites of our lands. again last week we discussed a lot about such a slightly scandalous interview about the combat combat of the dome of anatoliy kozov and the 46th. it seems that there was another part of the airborne assault brigade , which actually he gave an explanation. he said that there was a little out of context journalists his words and said that he is now in normal contact with the command of one of the airborne assault troops, but he

does not back down from his words that they do not have time to rest relatively speaking quite a lot and heavy losses in the infantry in particular in the assault brigades on which he lies the most difficult thing in this war is the heaviest burden what do you think about it how can you help here i want to say that you should never be afraid to tell the truth well victory is where there is light and victory is where the truth whatever it is it will all be the same those who spend the most who goes on the offensive is the assault units. well, the infantry, because these are the people who primarily face the gathering battle, everything depends on the commander, i want to say this, if the commander is experienced and adequate in direct communication with the top management, his team and his

infantry will be satisfied, so sometimes it is not enough to change people due to the fact that one is simply in training and the other is on duty, and those who came there from training immediately take their positions, i want to tell you that our brigades may have it somewhere like that, but uh, i i am satisfied with the service, what a cruel war it was. we give people the opportunity to migrate and we give people the opportunity to train in addition to rest, that's why we are doing well . these trainings, uh, they are happening now. do you have any new models of weapons ? from abroad, tell us a little bit about this and that outside of the military kitchen, but the military. of course , at the expense of e-e weapons and everything that is supplied to us by

foreign partners, so i cannot declare it very loudly, but i can clearly emphasize the infantrymen have now improved practically all the samples of our partners, that is, the weapons that were handed over to us from javelin and there is still power, more samples for training purposes , the unit commander or chief sergeant , the unit commander simply takes from his people , informs the commander, goes to the training ground and conducts training. that is, this is happening systematically twice a week, they go out, shoot, carry out e-evacuation , carry out tactical medicine , that is, the entire range of work, what was the children of the infantry like now, in fact, the 72nd brigade well, which did a lot during the first stage of the war, in the first phase, not actually

stopping the russians near kiev, and now it is doing an extremely large amount of work in donbas . meanwhile, other units are preparing for the offensive, do you not have one some kind of good white envy that someone is now preparing for that victorious offensive of some kind you have to continue to do this black very hard work you know i am sure that uh it should be like that everyone has to do their job as the volunteers say everyone on their own front, therefore i am very satisfied that we are in the donetsk direction, then there is really a lot of work to be done here, there are many worms that need to be buried well, every day we are motivated to think about how to do more, how to bring ukraine closer to victory so now information is circulating on the internet and

we really know what is being created by the powerful large brigades of the offensive guard this is good it should have been done even before this period before the year period of the full-scale invasion but it is difficult for me to say because you have to understand the scale we understand that now a lot of thousands military enlisted in various brigades in the guard in order to make this great dreamed-of counteroffensive to close the borders and restore our ukraine so that it would be sovereign and independent, that is why we are waiting and praying to god even on the front lines thank you mr. nazariya i convey greetings to your brothers convey a huge thank you from us to him and may all the light

forces protect you and all the dark forces take the lives of our enemies so that they do not take the lives of our defenders thank you thank you we will win we will win yes commander of the separate machine gun group of the 72nd, how i love all of these andrii, come on, you are a separate mechanized brigade, and we are studying the black zaporozhians a little more. yes, of course, this is an abbreviation. i think that we still have to live with them and live after the end of the war anyway will have a very large army a large army army by the way, the policy is written about the fact that if ukraine is not even included in nato , it will still be necessary to place a large contingent, in which case, on the borders with russia, precisely from foreign troops, in particular that american troops should definitely be present even after the war. there will be an american base here. i also really believe that and hope

that this is the guarantee of our security for centuries to come. well, ours, according to the development. well , now we will talk with evgenia zakrevska , the lawyer of the families of the heavenly hundred. ms. evgenia good morning to you good morning to call you as the lawyer of the families of the heavenly hundred it seems that this is already from some past life, although this is our history and quite recent, but since then , so much has already happened, uh, now you are you and i will talk about one more case in the case of roman raushnyi, who , unfortunately, did not know who died during a full-scale invasion defending ukraine and ukrainians, but for starters

, ms. yevhenii, i simply see that you are somewhere. no, i am fighting at the front, and i have actually been here for more than a year. tell me about the year process and what you have been doing this year. i was currently engaged in aerial reconnaissance. let's talk a little about this court which you won in particular but where is this uh court which gennadiy korban posed and sued well tell me a little bit i'm working on a story this one is about the profession of the river about the legal front another one that you also defend well the fact is that in 2021 year, when we started, let's say, in court proceedings against our yar, when we had several successes

, especially at that time, and in general, the struggle for the protasiv yar began from different sides, the pressure, the pressure, well, that's it was criminal case and separately in a separate part. it was a lawsuit by korban himself about the protection of honor and dignity, in fact, it came down to the fact that it was necessary to admit false information and refute all almost all the information that almost all mentions of him on pages - this is a system of protests, and on the page on the page, we are in a row, at the same time, he demanded a million in compensation. and yesterday, in the first instance , we lost, the first instance almost completely satisfied all of his it's all his we also lost the second instance claims the first time, moreover, the appeal

took place then already after the death of roma and in fact the court deprived his parents of the right to enter the case as successors and support his appeal. they allowed the parents , they didn't let them in, and so, accordingly, we in the supreme court canceled uh-uh canceled this uh-uh ruling , and it was repeated yesterday , that is, the supreme court sent it for a repeat appeal proceedings and yesterday the court of appeals was fully satisfied with all our appeals and the defense of the language of the protests of yar and directly of the novel, which he still submitted back in january 2022, well before the very beginning of the full-scale invasion. so, i think that this well, in fact, it is very important because it is the opportunity to name, to highlight events

, to call things by their names, it is the opportunity to inform the community about what is happening in what is happening in affairs a-a in essence and not in e-e let's say it in formally educated phrases that nobody there apart from lawyers, he doesn’t understand it was roma’s direct position to speak normally in human language. that’s exactly the opportunity . including what we are fighting for, what makes us different from russia, and it would be very wrong if we were to express ourselves directly and truthfully in good faith, in fact, regarding a-a specific cases, it would be prohibited. i also want to remind our viewers that in fact in

there are so many different events and they change so fast every day what appears is something that erases something previous from memory roman town hall and a young guy who defended protasiv yar protasiv yar for those who are not from kyiv, it is so green zone not far from the center of kyiv. that is, this is such an elite place that the developers encroached upon, and roman ratushny, when the full-scale invasion began, went to defend ukraine. remember his words, the more russians we kill now, the fewer russians our children will have to kill, that is, in of a full-scale invasion, he defended his native kyiv, then he defended the country and, unfortunately, unfortunately, he died. and actually the town hall, and i’ll just remind you, it’s a student then, quite young , who was beaten and detained by a golden eagle. well

, there during the action during the crackdown on the euromaidan , that is, he became a report famous, i remember how he sat in the studio on gromadskyi. i was on that and that airwaves, and when he first arrived, those golden eagles beat him there, and so on, the sun is not by chance a person, a person . to be proud and i want to say that this story is why this story is important even during the war why we should not forget about the heavenly hundred and about some values ​​of the euromaidan madam your opinion well i want i want to emphasize that roma still won the european court of human rights exactly the events of the euromaidan exactly according to those

two episodes and uh, the specific episode when he judged when he and i were sitting in your studio. a powerful support of the protest already within the peaceful euromaidan, that's why it's important. i think it's obvious because as soon as we start to forget where it all starts as soon as we start to forget the thesis that we fought and we start to forget what actually are european values, why, hmm, why in 13-14 did people en masse come out for peaceful protests , what happened to those who actually dispersed them, beat and killed them, how do we feel about it, and this is what shapes us as a society is what allows us later to fight against russia and surprise the whole world is what we are let's say that we were not taken in three days and that we are going to and will defeat it

and in fact, it is now even eh no one eh hmm it is no one's even now there is no reason to doubt i believe that it is formed precisely by those values ​​and those qualities that were hardened , including during the euromaidan and during the protest action , and every time a caring person defends the rights of others, and in fact, when another e- is landscape instead of forgetting, for example, the green zone as a monster, here is ms. yevgeniy, i want to ask one more thing, the war is rich, a great war, it changes a lot of things, it does not have any such halftones, there are either or you are on the side of the truth or you are on the side of lies or you are on the side of good or

you are on the side of evil now, the fact that you won this case and the fact that who was in this same case, even who, unfortunately, there is no roman town hall if it were not for his death if he were alive what do you think how would this case end, of course he would have won anyway i.e. he won he was able to win by dying that is, it is obvious that this case ended in the same way and when, if he was alive, that is, well, we did everything the same as it was planned back then when, when, when we actually talked about it, i was a lawyer from the very beginning, and actually, we filed an appeal even when there was no certain scale . that is, this is an appeal that has been satisfied and has been filed . it is also a supplement to a full-scale invasion. this

is so small, small, but justice and the restoration of the establishment and this and this is the best thing that can be done for him, the main thing is to remember this thanks to which ukraine was not conquered in three days, no matter how much we are mrs. yevgeny , i do not know you for the legal front and for the one you are holding now. thank you also to roman novy to the town hall that, despite the fact that, unfortunately, he is no longer with us , but his cause lives on, the cause of struggle for justice evgenia zakrevska, lawyer for the families of the nebesnaya sotna and also now, the defender was not only in the legal field, and my mother was with us, we are moving on, and serhiy zgurets , a military expert, the director of the defense express company, will be with us, we will try to return in general, about the situation at the front, mr. sergey, good morning. good morning , mr. sergey. everyone is discussing one video that appeared on the internet

and drawing many different conclusions . this video is actually of russian tanks moving somewhere in large numbers. i think they are the most interesting. show right away they are transported by rail and the most interesting thing is that the tanks are t-502 a-a production 1900 attention of the 47th year fantastic some such thing they are taken somewhere in large numbers in fact here it was noted that internet researchers the investigators will say that so far there is no evidence that these are tanks that are moving, for example, to the donbass somewhere in ukraine, however , how would you comment on it? well, it is really about tanks that were still being developed there, tested

in 1944, in 1947 they began to be produced right away, which were actually created to oppose german tanks in view of their power and options to strengthen er find options to compensate for the lack of destroyed tanks on the battlefield. we remember what the russians did for a certain time and bet which t-62 tanks 800 should have been restored. but i think that these indicators are 800 for three years. they are trying to call it 20 tanks in a month, and everything is very difficult there. they add an even older generation of t-55 tanks, which also have a gun smaller than 100

mm, it is not known whether there is any ammunition for this gun at all, and they are trying to thus probably form any opportunities using the old stocks of these tanks for according to preliminary estimates of these tanks, more than 2,500 were stored somewhere in warehouses, but more energy indicators indicate that in the best case, russia will be able to restore about 500 such tanks, but we understand that these tanks have extremely low efficiency from the point of view of both firepower and protection and we will still have to look for crews capable of fighting on these sneakers if russia really bets on you to return these tanks to hostilities, and we understand that the modern tanks

that ukraine will receive have much of higher power and challengers, they will actually shoot through these tanks completely starting from the gun and ending with the engine compartment because, well, all the samples are very ineffective from the point of view of protection, but we will see what the dynamics will be in the future , maybe in fact the russians will try to go further and further later they will pull out t-34 attack reserves , we do not even rule out such a possibility. well , they are already transporting these russian tanks by rail , and the american abrams, although they will give us a slightly older model sooner. no less, somewhere they say that they should be around autumn. well, we only see one image that one echelon of 54 is unknown, when it will be transported, we will see what will be the further fate of these tanks, but i think that in general now russia has lost three and a half thousand tanks, this is

actually the number that was in russia at the beginning of the invasion and to recover such losses, it is trying all kinds of options to get out of those old stockpiles, but when we talk about the supply of american, british or german tanks, then german tanks are already supplied, as we know to ukraine. the question is that it should be really faster and more efficient , to quickly form the armored fists , the brigades that we need to carry out offensive actions. a little news about aviation . interesting information about the fact that french pilots were allegedly trained for a month and a half on french mirages there in there are quite a lot of these planes, they are giving up on them little by little, but the plane seems to be not bad, it is capable, the truth is that ukraine has already denied it, and ot and nad said that there is nothing like that

, and france denies it, but it is repaired. it seems like figaro, i don't remember who wrote it there, bohdan tsyupin is a ukrainian journalist who works in london , so he said a little ironically that well, they didn't write about pilots anymore, they wrote that for a month and a half, aviation specialists familiarize themselves with mirages well, that is, how is it before to think about it, and what's more, stoltenberg also did not rule out an interview with the great that ukraine can still be provided with any modern aircraft in the near future. well, when we talk about planes, about the history of networks and truly a mirage of his own time can be used by the ukrainian side but as one of the possible options and then i'm sorry and then after all the main bet was made on f16 and if we take into account another statement of the ukrainian side that

ukrainian pilots passed test training in arizona in the united states where it was checked well the opportunity to master f16 and even a pilot of an intermediate level of training who actually underwent training in the united states for up to six months, that is, twice as much as previously evaluated by the american side and nato countries, that is, in fact, we are talking about the fact that this is an important indicator in order to speed up their activation of the discussion about transferring f16 to us, when we talk about other samples of project 15 equipment, they can also be in the arsenals, we understand that now we need to take the first steps the first steps three times and consists in having the most common

version and platform from the price, which has a sufficient amount of different ammunition, which is the most optimal from the point of view of mastery, here it is precisely in the foreground that the f16 comes out on what the leadership of the air force emphasizes. i think that it is in this direction that the main steps will be taken, which the ukrainian parties aspire to. by the way, let me remind you that one of the legendary aces is one of the most famous american pilots. i forgot his last name, but he recently made a statement that he is ready he is now. if he is already retired, you can say he is 40 years old, how many years will it be, but he is a veteran of all the possible and impossible wars that i have spent on the occasion of reading. sometimes he said that he is ready. if he is allowed to get on the m16 and already fly and to clear the sky over ukraine from russians and russian pilots, and to be honest, this idea is not only put forward by him, and various other military personnel say that this could be an interesting solution to the issue, that is, do not wait for the time being

, ukrainian pilots are learning something there, and with whom, just like we have legionnaires fighting foreign legionnaires as well as pilots who should immediately sit down with a lot of combat experience not the m-16 and just clear the sky and close it well, in fact, i am here a supporter of the fact that some initiatives should be developed in silence, that is, i am also a pioneer of what, uh, most likely, it is necessary to demonstrate and then announce it in order not to create unnecessary excessive expectations, and in this sense, precisely in relation to airplanes and in relation to pilots, it is precisely for this that you invest in such a concept as you not to create excessive expectations and still look for options for a systematic solution to this issue, which involves the use of foreign aircraft, the training of our pilots , the creation of our e-e airfield network

, obtaining passports and creating such normal basic system work, which, of course, is to get western planes and use their advantages . there are some major russian air days of space. now there is a solution . why exactly did they attack with the plane itself ? the dangers of the united states, john kiber, who said, well, they actually awarded an idiot because he actually barely managed to control his plane, carried out an attack on a drone that did not establish a threat, that is, this

russian pilot, then he really was, well , the impression is that now what kind of young man is he commenting on pull it up, he is just flaking now, he is in a situation where he is being awarded for bravery, i don't remember what the circumstances were, there were from the point of view of his but really, the situation looks absolutely comical , he has such a collar there that in principle yes it is clear that a person cannot lower his head already, so is the plane that has to withstand it and lift it into the sky , what is the last question, if i can briefly. this is the impression that they are transferring their offensive forces to avdiyivka now, how

dangerous can everything be there, she also looks in such a semi-encirclement, well, the association under the car is really attacking some, the enemy is just a part of them just to the west of avdiyivka, which says about the russian's efforts to encircle this populated place , there was the first mention of the inhabited and point, but it seems that the swallow is just west of avdiyivka, it was not mentioned before, but in fact the enemy is trying to surround avdiyivka, but these intentions are already well known, i hope that the measures that the ukrainian side will take to prevent these efforts by the enemy will be effective and in the same way, if we are talking about bakhmut, for a long time there was also talk about the possibility of encircling this city, but we can see how effective the ukrainian

defense is and what has changed on the front line around bakhmut in relation to individual areas, actually not is happening, and we remember the recent visit of the president of ukraine to bakhmut, which indicates that logistics are working and security is working, those ukrainian soldiers are working , well, absolutely heroically defending this city serhiy for the conversation serhiy zgurets, a military expert and director of the defense express company , was with us our second hour of the marathon is slowly coming to an end, for today we remind you that we are working for you and there are still a few hours ahead and many interesting guests with whom we will talk, in particular, about cotton, which are flourishing in crimea and about what is happening in belarus with belarusians, and we will also talk about how ukrainian refugees live in poland. all this is ahead, but now let's take a moment to remember all those ukrainians