[000:00:00;00] ivanychuk and so on and that's all it was in the library, so dear love people , please don't, well, it's a little bit insulting, that is, in fact , i confused the street there, i said, uh, this whistle , i don't pay attention. well, but when there are such personal attacks and they honestly i consider them very unfounded and even a little insulting . we went further, we went further. vadym poznyakov, the head of the public organization decommunization of ukraine joins us , mr. vadym. we are glad to see you on our air . well, we congratulate you and us on the fact that the law is finally about de-russification was adopted, uh, we somehow celebrated yes, of course, we congratulate each other. in fact, it is a very important event that it was finally approved, i think that it will start in the near future, as soon as the president signs it, we will

start its implementation. actually, it is much easier that the president signs because we have it there i have such haircuts, bad examples when some laws are signed for months and remain on the table somewhere in a pile of papers and there is no signature . life is not in all regions, in all regions, are you during the war or is it on time and so on , here is your opinion, everything is done correctly. well , if you want, just thanks to this law , we will also complete decommunization where there is, where it is not completed in fact, plus the law on decommunization too was partly half-hearted, because at that time society was not ready for many things there, so there were a lot of exceptions there about various elements of monuments of the second world war and about various communists who did not do anything extremely bad there, but still were

communists and so on and so on. and now i think that i have often put all these symbols too, vadim, you wrote on your facebook page about adding new, quite interesting statistics . unfortunately, we in this studio do not have such an opportunity to show the audience as well er, um, how does this statistic look visually? actually, this is the number of objects that were dismantled in the process of decolonization from 24.02.2022. at first, i understood this post in a different way. on in first place, lviv nada in second place, two. wow. did other regions do everything so quickly and get rid of all these vestiges, but no, it is precisely about where it was most

dismantled. of the russian empire in ukraine, and who still clings to the past as a heavy-handed person, which region grazes the rear well, i will say that many regions have done a good job if you take the streets, for example , renamed in the same khmelnytskyi region that let's take more than 1,500 streets that have already been renamed, that is, they had something like 2,000 or so, and about 80% of the streets in the rivne region of transcarpathia have been renamed . up to 2,000 streets have also been renamed there , for sure, that is, quite good in terms of monuments, here is some zakarpattia, lviv region, the city of kyiv, kyiv region is also quite good, although of course there is a lot of work because it is a large region and it is even not half and it's not even a third, that is, in the city of kyiv alone, of various monuments

of mobile boards of the molotiv stars varieties, more than 200 must be dismantled in the city of kyiv alone, by the way, the buzhansky deputy, who is a servant of the people, the former already and his surrender from the party, he left the faction i don’t know how it is there. well, they’re here slime with her, they came out of her, we don’t have a broadcast with the parliaments, but people basically painted the deputies how the voting on the rights to this draft law was originally supposed to be completely a small short one of fyodor of venislavsky, but in a matter of months, he expanded with many revisions to a full-fledged such fundamental law, but , for example , buzhansky fought tooth and nail for every revision, and it must be said that he had quite serious support in all those revisions, for example he proposed, er, to allow the opportunity to continue to give soviet figures the opportunity to erect, for example, monuments in ukraine , and this amendment did not get only one vote, 225

votes, it was voted that one vote was not enough for us in ukraine to be able to erect monument to brezhnev, for example, at least the following times, but for example, he managed to pass an amendment of 227 votes, only one vote was enough, that is, two two votes and 226 27 votes for the fact that, for example, it is not possible to dismantle soviet symbols from graves a-a well, for example, i know what is there, well, in the lviv region, it is in many local cemeteries, just like all those individuals in the same khirov , for example, i already mentioned it there, where there was a huge garrison unit based there , the tank army was located very close to the polish border, from there it was necessary to advance on berlin during the second and third world wars. so there was a mass of people there, well, if those people died because they lived there all their lives, all the colonels , generals and majors were buried there in the local cemetery, they had a separate sector there. well,

everyone they hid them with crosses and all those stars and sickle hammers. well, they took a simple one and dismantled it, in principle, no one was asked for permission, the law seemed to prohibit it. in the same way, maybe i don’t know, maybe in their cemeteries there are graves where there is a swastika, there are all kinds of ss signs . well, unfortunately, the same practice was also in the decommunization law. that is, there. because of this , we could not remove a lot of things this monument to vatutin, why did it stand for so long near the verkhovna rada , and the grave of vatutin still remains , the owner says, is it near the verkhovna rada, because there was an exception in the law on grave structures, and there are a lot of such in the center of almost every city e- e of ukraine there are some there fighters for the power of the soviets have removed such people until now. they did not rebury them somewhere because there is an exception in the law about graves in the law about

decommunization . and actually, that is why no one touched it for the majority, that is, it is not a very good practice. one thing, we will demand pressure and finally carry out these processes because, well, when it is already done, there is this program, there is no such program, we are currently doing a lot of things that do not even fall under this new law on decolonization, because in these soviet aloshek soldiers will definitely not be brought under this law, but they must also be cleaned, and we are already doing it in the first regions, it is now, plus or minus , zakarpattia, lviv, frankiv region , that is, we are very actively working on it there. and when you clean we will put pressure on this region and on the neighboring ones, because there is a law, there is no law, we are still without a law, how much will be done for them now ? is it easier to press those heads who say oh , we

will not blame pushkin lermontov, they are great writers, poets and law no well, you won't do anything to us , now we'll call and say, now you'll have to do it, that is, in any case, we worked even without the law . pushkin's monuments to aivazovsky's monuments, they are a little similar visually, they wore such bukenbats and everything and don't bother, i'm just kidding, of course, because now some viewer will write again what i want , suggests the host espresso eh p vadim well, but what about these aloshoks with automatic machines that even but they are really hiding here everywhere under every village, even here in the lviv region. for example, but still, well, what is the argument that these are simply monuments to soldiers who died in the fight against fascism, among them there were a lot of ukrainians, what are these monuments doing? the monuments were perfect, they were bronze and they are being repainted blue, and they say , so you have already had decommunization

, decommunization, decommunization, when you just have to repaint the monument, change the plaque. them you have to suffer. here in sumy oblast, even now with bx, there is still an image of lenin whose mustache was painted on, and this lenin the cossack is still in one of the villages. so it is very difficult for everyone with this when they repaint the monuments already deep blue - it is a big headache because then with it is very difficult to understand these monuments, because in a couple of years they will say that they were decommunized and it is very difficult to press down, even though we do this in principle, we press down, we clean up. to propitiate the soviet and call it ukrainian national narrative, is it harmful, or does this council remain toxic even in such blue-yellow robes ? of course, you can’t paint a soviet soldier in yellow-blue, he won’t become ukrainian from it, just like

lenin in an embroidered jacket from that, from this, lenin to the ukrainians, well, this is shrotsot, so you say that you are now dealing with lviv oblast, transcarpathia, frankiv oblast, and then you will move on and convince other local leaders that we need to clean up everything that was left to us as a legacy from our occupiers of those previous ones, how do people generally react even there, well, even in the lviv region. sometimes when we have something there they say something about ukraine, but in lviv, even in lviv, i heard the russian language, local people spoke in russian, and this is like a kind of measure of what is acceptable, what no, people in the villages, for example, where are these aloshkas? yes, these monuments or lights, eternal lights , they really don't burn anymore, because they have already understood that they are not needed, but the people live there in that village, they will get used to it. well, it is

not for anyone he hasn't killed for a long time, well, there is one it's a pity, that is, not the vast majority, but such characters are also found, that is, i can't say that all of them are 100% for both years , there are people who tell us that this is our story, that there is something else that should not be touched , it stood here, so let it stand, but that's all anyway, they are not the majority, and it will be frank that the vast majority of such monuments of these alyoshas in the western regions are in a very neglected state . they begin to tell, this is our story. and let's paint it. let's just take the star away, but if we're going to be honest , then most of them are standing in some weeds or some are already neglected or something has already fallen off

or something else, it's in a few months before the large-scale invasion, we managed to dismantle a soviet soldier in kolomyia, so this soviet soldier in kolomyia already had his right hand sawed off, but they still did not want to take him away, because this is our history , but still they pressed so, what arguments do you find for these people, what is their story in reality? oh, it is actually very difficult. i will say that there are people who cannot prove anything because, frankly speaking, very often these people prove to us that it may be 70 years old, but, frankly speaking, the vast majority of our residents - all these settlements, well, frankly, they will not notice if this lyoshka is standing there today, and in three days they will move there, well, in most cases, even they, no one will notice that he was there, that he is not there, that is, actually speaking, this the most telling thing is their condition, i.e. most of them are in a very bad

condition, i really like it so quickly it disappears from memory, i will now say that i deal with, for example , master's degree students, as if they are already slightly older students and wanted to give an example of such a bad journalist there journalist who discredited journalism in ukraine and showed that i am not afraid of this word of a foot soldier, but they are skala. who is this? this is the first time we see him, and you understand that, in fact, they already have a little bit of history, so it turns over, and thank god, and to turn it over and more of it don't mention. now you know the last thing i want to say. i'm again clinging here to some unimportant details, but i'll remind you that the bill submitted by fedirvenislavski at the very beginning is called decolonization. markers from the territory of ukraine and from ukrainian culture, because for me, i simply understand that

this is a term that they can better understand, which sells well somewhere in latin america or africa. they simply then understand that they we will also support you then, but in general, i think that he is not very correct in relation to ukraine, because at one time, ukraine acted as a cultural colonizer for those territories that today are called the russian federation. this is always the story of peoples who adopted imperial culture in the first place because they had a culture at a lower level of development, so what do you think about it, well, this is too complicated a question, i think that anyway in the last 200 years, rather, the colony was still unfortunately us because our language and culture were forbidden. actually, how many ethnic cleansings and repressions were carried out, that is, in the last years of the colony, unfortunately, it was us , that is, at first we colonized them, but then

somehow randomly the colony on unfortunately, they found themselves like that again. that is, it is such a difficult question, a difficult question, a difficult question for myself, there were a lot of discussions . until this term, there are people who say that this is just decolonization, there are people who categorically against and i understand that there is still no such thing in society , well, among intellectual circles. there is still no such clear definition of whether this term should be used or not, but everyone has their own opinion , i still think that it is decommunization, but there are people who still respect they say that it is not appropriate to use this term too soon, it goes so far that the ukrainians are not yet ready to even say goodbye, understanding who the enemy is, where he came from, but are not even ready to let these aloshoks leave their settlements, so it is too early for them to be so high matters to explain thank you mrs. vadim vadim poznyakov, the head of the public organization decommunization of ukraine was with us, they talked

about how to decommunize and decommunize ukraine and how much easier it will be when the law comes into force. thank you very much, we are moving on. - yure p. stepan good day. good morning, mr. stepan. what is the current situation with the judicial reform , which had rather unsatisfactory evaluations by our delegation from the european union back in february months, but after that we heard that everything was done in principle, they appointed the head of nabu and we can be taken not just in relation to the european union, but you can even say that brussels will be transferred to zhmerinka.

the inhabitants of zhmerinka will be offended. andriy proposed to move the capital of the european union. then, in dozhmerinka , well, maybe not right away, or later, mr. stepan, so how and what is the situation now, in particular, in the elections to the council, lord god, as a qualifier of higher qualification but what is the situation there? i know that there are two very worthy people with er. that's it. that 's it. that's it. i 'm done. there were supposed to be a third of them submitted by the judicial corps, i will remind you of what is happening there now, what are the hopes that not only one er ma- masol maselko will be there, but also worthy people

. it is about a higher qualification the commission is the body that conducts competitions for judicial positions and the situation there is such that the competition commission , which includes three foreigners and three ukrainian judges , has completed all the competition procedures and selected 32 candidates, of which 16 are to write to appoint the supreme council of justice, which actually there is roman maselko eh hmm, a question asked by some lawyers i understand that such discussions were also held in the supreme council of justice eh should the competition committee for eight vacancies under the quota of judges find 16 candidates from among judges and retired judges

because the last list received by the supreme council of justice there are only 10 judges, and actually this discussion is certainly useful, but as for me and my colleagues and from the yuriy foundation from other public organizations, they agree that the competition commission followed the law to its last letter, that is, the law demanded 32 candidates from the competition commission, there was no mention of any quotas, how many judges should be, how many non-judges, it is the task of the high council of justice to form a higher qualification commission in such a way that there were eight judges, it is obvious that from 10 candidates to choose eight judges - this is a small possible choice, but the problem is that not so many judges applied for the competition , that is, proportionally, when you look at how many candidates from the number of judges and how many candidates from the number of non-judges applied, that proportion remained until the very end of e- eh i don't know why eh judges weren't so actively ready to participate in this competition, but

maybe this shows something with a spear to form an authorized and full composition of the higher qualification commission because, well, it meets the requirements of the law, and it meets the expectations of the society in the legal community, because the higher qualification commission of judges has not existed for three years, and without this body, appoint it to a vacant position there are quite a lot of positions in the judiciary, more than 2,000 . there is no time to prolong this process, therefore, i am sure that despite all the discussion, the supreme council of justice will still recognize the authorized composition of the highest qualification commission of judges, and i really hope that from the list proposed by the competition commission, those persons will be chosen who will be

agents of change who really understand the problems of the judiciary and will not be silent about them, but actually voice them and look for ways to solve them. constitutions constitutions for the state such as the justice system and actually for this, those agents of change are needed, in fact , it will change everything in the country accordingly. the very top of corruption schemes and they will basically cut down the entire system, rebuild and reconfigure it in a very short period of time and we will live and it is already possible not to transfer zhmerinka to belgium, we will already have our own belgium here

others, another idea is that it is impossible to build complete changes in separate constitutions without them changing, society itself without changing and other institutions cannot be changed, but courts can be left unreformed, for example, i do not know the fire department in the neighboring city is very strongly connected , and therefore it is still evolutionary processes and it is good that people are just a little bit better every time , although at least they enter the management and it is necessary to approach this soberly, what do you think about it what do you think, in the end, is it possible or can ukraine jump over how many steps in its reform processes, and do you now look at the fact that we succeed in this? it seems to me that we will not be able to jump anything, it is like in school, you need to study politely and honestly in every class in order to get new skills, new skills, new knowledge. i think that the views you described

are complementary. it is impossible to expect the evolution of the system if people who are ready to approach this evolution do not come there, and the same, even if at the top or in some there are people in the bodies who are ready to work on it, but the community itself is not open to changes . it is not aware of the problems. well, these reforms that are currently taking place in the judiciary are only slowing down the process, namely the renewal of the high council of justice, the high qualification commission of judges, they are called to form, as you correctly said, a new quality these bodies, but these people will not always be there. because there is a certain fear of authority, what we expect from these bodies is to form a new culture, a new practice of selecting judges for judicial positions and attracting judges to

responsibility because, as time shows, as practice shows, a lot of the judicial community reacts to trends, if the supreme council of justice dismisses judges for violating the law, then this discourages other judges from breaking the law, if the supreme council of justice protects judges from illegal pressure and influence on it encourages other judges to be more independent and resist such pressure, and i hope that the reforms that we are currently carrying out will lay the first cornerstone for this new culture of new practice the task of the supreme council of justice of the new and higher qualification commission is not just to shape this practice, but also to make this practice an example of the fact that we will have radical changes in the judiciary because in the future these bodies of higher judicial governance supreme council of justice of the higher qualification commission they will still be formed from the number of judges, judges at congresses will elect these bodies in one way or another, and obviously , until the quality of

the judicial corps is changed in our country, we will not be are sure that in the future the composition of the supreme council of justice of the higher qualification commission may be some other judicial councils that it will be of high quality, that is, relatively speaking , we had the task at this stage of the reform to break this circle of unscrupulous judges elect unscrupulous judges as heads of the judiciary. and they, in turn, do everything to ensure that unscrupulous judges have influence in the judiciary . obviously, success will not be immediate , but it depends on how high-quality our supreme council of justice will be now. qualification commission, we can assess whether this first step will be stable and there will be no rolling back, or whether we will still not finish it somewhere, i hope that these

legislative changes, according to which the current competitions are taking place, they still lay a high-quality basement for reform and the last one is true. you are right that it is not possible to create a high-quality judiciary in a vacuum. everything else will remain as it is. we have a prosecutor’s office without a prosecutor’s office, which is part of the judiciary. a quality criminal process is impossible without the reform of the bar is impossible, as well as the quality and quality of the protection of human rights in court proceedings, and without the proper quality of professional education, we cannot expect that we will have high-quality attorneys, prosecutors and judges, therefore it is a really complex problem, and our organization deals with all of these by the way thank you very much mr. stepan stepan berko, an employee, an advocacy , a provocative manager, it’s left andriy, you haven’t slept

, friends, we’re taking a little break, i mean with andrii zaychuk, he ’ll practice a little with some colloquialisms, he’ll speak well, in the meantime, the children's search service and the news selection are in line, we are looking for 11-year -old hleb cherepanov. the boy has been considered missing for more than a year. and now we have received information from a witness, a woman reported that she saw our program about the search for hleb and allegedly recognized him, well, god forbid to be true, in which country do you know where they could go? well, for some reason, my intuition shows that it is definitely him. the woman said that she saw a boy who looked like hleb cherepanov

on the border with poland, namely at the point pass to shegina, who probably left the country from ukraine with her grandmother, but i don't know to which country who went, i just wanted to say that it seems to me that he is alive and may be living with others , because i heard that at the border, not everyone had children , she submitted documents, maybe she didn't have - first, of course, we immediately passed this information on to the police. and secondly, by chance, i once again want to thank the witness who did not remain indifferent and informed us about hleb cherepanov. i really want to believe that the boy whom the woman saw

was really hleb. the information will help to find him. and i will remind you that glib cherepanov is looking for a boy in mariupol in march 2022. his mother is good . hleb's mother and grandmother left their apartment and hid in a relative's house . one day, hleb's mother went out on business . when she returned, she saw that

a shell had hit the house where her son and his grandmother were. nice to everyone, i took a bomb shelter, i started crying, i’m talking. in short, as soon as i find it, he says, “we’re running . we didn’t know what to look for. zhiguli alone. mother began to search everywhere for her son and his grandmother. the woman checked all the shelters and bomb shelters, but unfortunately, the boy was not found. the version about the death of hleb but fortunately , the boy was not found among the dead , so i ask you to look carefully at hleb's face, he is about 150 cm tall, he has blond hair and brown eyes on his face near the mouth, three moles in in the shape of a triangle, hleba's mother really