tv [untitled] March 23, 2023 7:30pm-8:01pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] on the left bank, where the russians tried to gain a foothold, and in the end they succeeded somewhere after kherson. what could this mean? this is the beginning of this counterattack. i think that it could mean , as mrs. humenyuk said, preparation for a gesture of not very good will, because they already deny everything, in fact, in themselves. your networks because you see already for quite a long period of time our armed forces of the defense forces are hitting directly on warehouses with weapons on e-e command posts logistics points, that is, they bleed the enemy and in
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that camp as our territory in which they found themselves and of course, now the enemy has a very difficult situation with security and combat support . and of course they also have relevant information, but what is the danger here, the power of evil will hide because they have all the combat points, all direct guidance points are ready so that if our armed forces will come in to strike and destroy our armed forces there in that place , so we understand that there is no need to hurry and it is really not excluded that such a situation when they can now dig in in residential buildings they have obviously already prepared and can prepare the appropriate forces and means. therefore , we must approach that situation very carefully, and we cannot know what
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the general staff is aiming at, because when the enemy expects and ours about what we will attack now, even discuss on this topic, because they say that we will now attack in such and such a direction , then no. this means that we will attack in that direction. it is obvious that the supreme commander-in-chief and the staff of our armed forces know when to attack, but we must understand that this is the first step towards another gesture of bad will when the russians realize that their stay in kakhovka is already counted and they are going to leave our territory , what do we need now, we need really big help from the west, help from the european union, help from the whole world in that we need long-range artillery
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we need airplanes we need armored offensive equipment because now is the period of time when the bloodless enemy understands that he cannot oppose anything except for ah hmm losing every day a whole a hmm regiment is up to a thousand people and losing its forces and resources but everything will depend on how understanding the world is and will be operative to help our armed forces we expect that the enemy as in the past on the eve of very serious counter-offensive actions from our side, of course you have all heard and all the experts know that there is such a very massive information and also that the enemy is preparing for serious offensives from
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all sides if you analyze in principle from which sides they can attack our armed forces the forces are ready to fight back now um there are appropriate er and installations there are appropriate roll calls on this matter but you can't relax because whatever the enemy is, he still has potential and insufficient power to attack in the last throw, so we have to be ready and for the belarusian direction in the northern direction, well, of course, first of all, this is the luhansk donetsk region , we will also talk about the belarusian direction, because literally also before the air there was information that a regiment of missile troops was placed 50 km from the e border with volhynia, in fact this western regions there, i can say the thesis that general naev is a very
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capable general who will now ensure work from belarus all the way to bogodukhov of the kharkiv region . our armed forces are working very actively, they do not relax, they understand that at any time we can receive from negative surprises, that's why preparations are going on throughout the year, we are already talking about belarus if it exists well, first of all, it's nice that ms. natalya said that they are pretending, that is, the command understands that it can be a deception and if they understand that it can be, then i'm already a little calmer a it's nice to be calm during the best time than to be restless, the second is that i think they are already trained to a certain extent although all the experts assure me, it's just written in blood that the russians
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can't learn, that's why the second world war is so ingrained in their heads just remember that the last defense of the russian troops was in the summer of 1943, since then they have never defended themselves. milked down, that means they stood on the defensive against the germans, and then they already reached berlin, and then they captured hungary and the czech republic, afghanistan and in africa, and all of them were just victories because of that. do they know how or do they know ? i don’t know, but they definitely left. i ’m afraid. what well, i want to save the army. i am definitely my last name, my pseudonym is not clausets. but i definitely understand that saving the troops is. well, maybe they have learned that it is necessary to save the troops, because if well , we were told back in september, i apologize.
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last year, it is 84 km to melitopol him it is necessary to go and it is obvious that this direction just look at the map it is obvious that it is that direction somewhere somewhere that way it should move as far as i understand that's why well, we will observe, we don't have another, you and i are not sitting in the general staff and do not know what is happening, but i would i also wanted to say this moment about what we need and what we don't waste, and what the western allies are able to supply - it's just the numbers that came out recently . well, i only remembered one javelins used in ukraine, which were produced five years before the war, advice, how do we spend them, that is, it is completely unclear whether they have something there, we do not know whether it is in a warehouse
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or whether the warehouses are empty, or as ukrainian experts say, what happens is what they say. here are 10 tanks coming to see where those tanks are there are nine tanks out of them , they cannot move, they need to be repaired for six months so that they are very well. what there is simply not enough power in ukraine, but it is powerful because the west does not exist and does not give the west because it does not want it , because it may not have it . let's correspond. and we can't, but he's resting, he went on vacation, he can't sign, and he didn't agree with that, and so on and so on . that's why it's really the first swallow, although it's definitely an allerger, a comeleger. in a war, as in a war
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, it's unlikely that you can get anything here. come up with this no one knows, except for the lucky one, after all, we always have all the messages of the general staff during the full-scale invasion. well, they were all clear, and in fact, we learned about all the news from them. if we already have valery chaliy, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the usa in 15-19 years, with us the chairman of the board of the ukrainian kyiv crisis center. i apologize to the media center. i see that valery is in touch with us. we planned to start this program with a conversation about uh, this visit, these calls to moscow, i expected the whole the world and we understood also started with novaya kakhovka because the most recent information but with you anyway let's try to summarize what conclusions can be drawn from the visit from the visit of the chinese leader because on the one hand many e-e experts or commentators note that almost nothing was said by the chinese
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a leader who could be quoted in moscow, except that he wished putin success in the presidential elections next year, but this is also a fact . many people talked about this and noted that the russian federation was already behaving like the future subordinate or maybe even the present e-e of the people's republic of china on the other hand there are still these fears that china not only economically but economically it will apparently cooperate with the russian federation and also at the armed level will help what are your conclusions for yourself the most basic what did you see, what did you feel, did you find any positives, or is this visit a generally negative trend for ukraine as well? i congratulate you and all the studios, it's nice to hear you . glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. with your permission , i will respond to a fresh topic for one minute.
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from that moment, what is happening there, because it really is a navahovka. it is a very interesting situation, and i do not know what is directly happening there, but i will say that what i see in the last half hour is just an explosion of foreign media attention to these reports. therefore, it must be taken into account. it is also that there is a certain information game, nothing else except certain actions of the russians, nothing was reported there. but why is there such attention, why do i want to sharpen the attention here ? because what is nova kakhovka - it is an egression - it is also the kakhov reservoir and these are structures that control the supply and distribution of water the north crimean canal, that is, in fact, if we return kakhovka and this node , then this is the control over the supply of water to the crimea, and this is what putin personally spoke of as a huge
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achievement of russia. that is, this is a very important point , from which the liberation can be achieved i will say this to crimea, so the attention will be huge to these messages concerning nova kakhovka , we also need to take this into account in the information work of the international and domestic ones , now with regard to china , there is a bridge here. suffered and there is a threat that if what the russians did was to release water from the kakhovka station, they destroyed the locks there, it became a threat to nuclear safety at the nuclear facility , that is the position of china in the twelve points of the so-called peace plan and in the position of china that was voiced not to use threats with nuclear weapons and also not to use
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such threats with such man-made disasters or terrorist seizure of atomic facilities. that is, these are two very important points. well , you are writing a peace plan, i still think that the so-called peace plan because here, as you can see from the sideboard, you can extract, as i did, these two points, and the russians extract what they are interested in. well, in the end, it is such a rather internal document that has certain contradictions from our point of view, but not from the chinese point of view the chinese are so used to formulating their approaches like this . that is how the visit took place . to such people. well, they did not calm down after this visit, because it seems obvious to me who plays the key role there. yes, it is china
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, even all these agreements that were shown where the constellation was, where the vassal, what is most important remained behind the scenes, because what was public and these statements and all that was discussed the other day, everyone discussed what i didn't hear about it, the first thing that was discussed was the amount of funds that everyone promised to putin. and he really needs fina, the army, that is, what funds are these, what amounts, through what mechanisms, because we understand that china is big and trans-ural putin once talked about 12 million people living in russia, and in china there are 112 guando provinces, 10 times more than that, the expansion and capture will probably only be because of the unreturned loans and then the water from baikal will flow to china and all they need is that these amounts of funds are still unknown, we do not know what
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exactly the agreements were, whether they were to circumvent sanctions, we know that some dual -use goods arrived in russia, but i will not say that this is the supplier, it is still such elements which you won't start with the direct supply of weapons now, of course, it is a very dangerous moment - this is china's support for russia's military and technical plans, eh, to conclude whether these agreements exist or not, we will not be able to fact, then we will already see, and therefore the signal of the united states, which is the signature of joseph biden under the law on declassification of the data channels of the e-e virus and the pandemic from 19 this was such a fairly transparent message to china, that is why i think that now the trade is going on
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. statements and specific actions, they talked about the fact that there could be a telephone conversation between the leaders of the two states, ours and china . what could this conversation be about? it is almost absent, that is, since the meeting of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, with vangicide, the head of the foreign e-e diplomacy. well, he is in the central committee of the communist party, but he is higher than the minister, the former minister of the draft law, this meeting has already taken place a long time ago and actually the conversation was at this level , there is nothing further , as far as i know, there is no confirmation of this contact call in ukraine today, moreover, i would
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stop there and would not ask, i would not run after the chinese to provide this contact, because you are right about what are we going to say? that is, we don't need a conversation, but we just agreed in moscow. well, we need china to accept our peace formula more realistically. and in the end, is china ready to go to a serious conversation actions on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, what i have already told you to condemn russia for this. that is, this is a topic of conversation, we can talk about the opinion of china, and here i am interested. i would ask the head of china in this plan, the so-called 12 points, there is participation in the restoration of ukraine, yes, i it is interesting. this means grant aid, as other countries provide now, well , china provides 200,000, let's say, provided $200,000. we will be grateful to them for this, that it is
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absolutely not comparable to the capabilities of china , but nevertheless for technical support of security at the zaporizhzhia station. that is, there are experts working there, so here is my question, these are grants of this type. does china want its companies to take part in the renewal, then this is part of the business of making a profit , that is, how can the country claim to be in the process of recovery if now it does not help us in our territory , this is a very paradoxical thing, how is it compared in the minds of the chinese, you have to ask them. well, the third block is very important, actually, we have to restore diplomatic contacts through communication, it is clear that the easiest way the solution is more likely to send the ambassador of ukraine to china and er well, i still
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think the admission despite the situation of inviting the chinese ambassador for contacts is more here in kyiv in the ministry of foreign affairs and possibly in the office of the president because the situation is paradoxical well we i see that it is not accepted, taking into account the position of china as it is today, that is why it is necessary to restore trade and economy, a bilateral commission that did not hold a meeting between the parliamentary group , there is friendship there, but i will honestly say that all these mechanisms will not work if china does not will clearly answer one position, who are the aggressors, too, because now china claims to be a peacemaker, taking a completely unbalanced position between russia and ukraine , so that everyone can see vasyl pavlyuk, a diplomat in our studio. we drew attention to the fact that the prime minister
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of japan came to moscow and the prime minister of japan came to kyiv and warsaw for the arrivals, this is the same thing that biden did in his time, before that you remember the same kyiv warsaw this is another one from the point of view, this is a signal for china and for russia and in general for the whole world that this coalition japan, taiwan, australia, south korea and others are absolutely on this side, this is also a signal for china if it plays today as panoveri said, it will not be determined who is the aggressor who is the victim, but i don't think that in the economic field, not only the military, but in the economic field, primarily the economic field, he will pay very, very high rates for this, and this is true, and we must pay very, very great attention to this on the visit of the prime minister, i, mrs. oksana yurynets, supporting our diplomats , do you absolutely consider the visit of the prime minister of japan to kyiv in the top ten, or is it actually such a balancing act of what happened
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simultaneously in moscow with the visit of the leader of the dprk, sisypina? why, because in fact japan - it was not just a national visit-leader . and this is also a visit of the presiding country to everyone or selenium, and in fact, the issues that were considered, they actually become at schalke such a weighing of those certain negotiations, and here, of course , a lot of new things appear. why because because in fact, in these agreements between japan and ukraine, there were issues that actually related to the taiwan security corridor, that is, such things have already been brought out that relate to joint cooperation, of course , i would like to have much more related to crimea and other things, but we have already seen absolutely it is the thing that, for example, it was important for the leader of japan to give it, it is possible in view of certain security there, this did not happen before, but this is also after the visit of the presiding head
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of the g20 and we understand when indonesia or the map now japan. that is, this is the format where we already have some kind of strategic direction in this part of the world with balanced support for ukraine . which should be activated now, and here is something that can strengthen our armed forces of ukraine. but in my opinion, what is actually happening right now . i agree with mr. valery chal that the appointment of the ambassador would be such a key moment from the point of view of the next negotiations and it is possible that the discussion of the peace plan is real and not just china's vision of how the next events should take place, and in this context , i also agree. parliamentary diplomacy should work in the same way. because in fact, this is an important key thing that will help us find these balances platforms that today can be between e-e countries e and
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different parts of the world, which for us are key and important for security mykola veresen and let mr. nuchalov react, i am calm as in the situation with the new tile because really, there is such a big storm on - a big stormy reaction to this visit, but in fact it is an agreement between moscow and beijing many millions of years ago. well, not millions, many years ago. putin is going to the chinese . it is worthless xixinfen, or the leaders of china are going to moscow and in 23- year is just the turn of the chinese to come to moscow and there is no doubt that the situation is modern, the state of affairs in everything that concerns china, but there is a philosophical and ideological basis for china's policy in general, and something tells me
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that china will not change this ideology. the ideology of these three ideologues. three days of the so-called yes, it is the same as imagining what the communist party of the soviet union would suddenly say about neutrality - it was bad, she said it was good, and then she suddenly said it was bad. for three days , no blocs means no bloc of military and political they said how they said that in september of last year, i repeat again, and endless friendship okay , but for some reason such an endless friendship, but not a block , not mutual, so strong, strong support, secondly , no confrontations, and thirdly, no directed i support mr. chao, because if you look at the 12 points , there is such territorial integrity, it seems to be for
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ukraine, but still, the aggressive forces of the west are, as it were, about and they will always stand in that state because it is difficult for us to imagine today an alliance between china , but if we strain and leave in the 70s, some third, second, fourth years, to imagine that china began to be friends again, more precisely, russia began to be friends with the west, then china remains alone they can't spit on russia, they will still continue to look good with a bad game. and what is good about them, they are quietly leaving russia, huge chinese corporations are leaving russia, but unlike the american and european ones that shout mcdonald's, i'm gone, i'm gone, huawei, which is not
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less than mcdonald's left, you know, on tiptoe, he left quietly and closed the door so that no one heard that he left and i don't believe with the volume of trade 180 billion russia china and a trillion 600 million billion russia er china united states and europe it's just 10% . well, if you spit at 90%, you will start dancing before ten, it won't be like that, that's why china will play for itself, for itself, for itself, and in 21st place for russia, and 20 20 cities only for themselves, for themselves, and here, too, i am with mr. guys, i don't believe that they will do expansion in relation to russia, they will do this gradually, not political experts, they will encourage business, encourage chinese culture. come, open houses of chinese culture in this, in novosibirsk, vomsk, in tomsk, business,
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please you open restaurants and the war is over but to say that this will be an order is followed by wire and wire to the troops, will it be politically as if we are not doing anything, this is how our people are. well, it is mutual. and you can come to us, russian comrades . come to us, and we to you. we do not mind you to we all came to bed. i apologize for the short reply, because my colleagues said, of course, we must understand that china was today when all these conversations began. and that's why this coming to russia will show that , well, we can too, if we're from russia, we'll be together. well, we're very strong , we're with us, you have to count it literally, it's also very important, well, it should be said about a very negative trend, a negative step.
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-e chinese leader who came and literally a few weeks after the arrested putin , he demonstrated his contempt for international law, he demonstrated his contempt for the international court of justice, which was very negatively perceived by the western world and the united states already held suspend the law that reveals the secret of covid and president biden signed it for a second, imagine for a second that the whole world, if it now hides that china released covid, will announce sanctions, will announce lawsuits, and what will happen to china china of course, what will happen, what will happen, as i said, they say to fool but the bottom line is that there are very interesting moments . he said with mishustin that you are coming to us and so on, and you say with the president. well, with your
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president. the second thing he said was , when was the statement of the minister of foreign affairs about the fact that they support russia in the war with ukraine and they published this conversation , then china officially stated that they did not expect that it would be made public. and they, if the minister knew this, he would be more restrained in that situation, moreover, at the un, i i would like to remind you that china supports sovereignty and territorial integrity, so everything is not in order, i think that there was a very, very important gesture of goodwill from the president of china. but in fact, we do not see anything, and i agree that it will only later, when the actions will start, let's summarize the word of the dominant, but it is very dynamic. we have an information broadcast today, and another message from
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the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine has already appeared, and again, i think it is simply important to quote that there are ugu occupiers and are still temporarily located in nova kakhovka , the information about the enemy’s supposed withdrawal from this settlement was made public due to the incorrect use of available data, but we will definitely liberate nova kakhovka and we announced it at the general headquarters the situation is what ms. humenyuk told our broadcast, in the end, we said somewhere that we should be careful and do you want to believe that the process went ahead? it's just that maybe someone wanted this process to be much faster than it really was. we're going to sum up china. i won't summarize china because it didn't sound like much. according to the facts some well really, expansion and aggression are different things, i was talking about the same thing as mr. veresen about
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