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can you hear me? i can't hear you, unfortunately , maybe the connection will be established now. please talk to us again. we can hear you. oles , welcome. please, then right away, where do you work? i work at a factory that processes vegetables, salads are made, such a difficult physical job for 20 years. in general, i have a higher education in ukraine, you work in journalism, pr management , but now without dutch. unfortunately , i cannot hug here. ukrainians, yes, but with the english language, it is impossible to get a job in any international publications as a journalist or editor. well, i have a printer, the level is average. let’s say yes, this level is not enough, well, it is difficult, yes. and tell me, where are you? found this job simply through ads or in some groups for ukrainians, this job well, in principle, it is available here, minimal

english is required and through the agency , everything is arranged here that temporary workers are employed by agencies, you just call the agency, it says that i want to work here and there , and it guides you the agency is completely and with the work schedule, is it an extremely difficult job? is it still moderately difficult? to be honest, it is very difficult physically . it is difficult for me. legs , one hour, you have a break. well, you can schedule uh, there are 4-3 days, as convenient as it is. yes, well, 11 €. it takes about an hour for me, well, if you convert hryvnias at

the ukrainian post office, it is a lot, but for the netherlands it is not very much , they mostly work in managerial positions or, well, there are few dutch people here, there are a lot of people from different countries, poles, italians and others. if you receive such funds. how do you currently have enough for groceries? do you still limit yourself in some types of products ? well, in principle, no products, they are quite affordable. well, especially since they provided us with housing for free. well, how about such modular houses, but with children we live there. ukrainians, others live there, in principle. well, the housing minus remains for food. well, in principle, it is enough for life. modular houses are like the ones we build for immigrants . by the way, in many regions, that is, you live separately with your family with two children in your the house is right, yes, separate, we have 15 houses

for 15 ukrainian families. well, for example, girls who do not have husbands were divided into two. there are still steel plates and pans, we still need it, these are really good enough conditions, because many people live in other countries. well, in the netherlands, they also say very unpleasant things in dormitories, well, i don’t want to voice them on the air really, when you don’t have even a little bit of your own private space, it’s true, it’s very, very hard, you can’t stand it for a long time. and as children, they enter school and learn the dutch language. it turns out like this. my children go to international, so-called international schools. high school and they are studying now in ilya already level a2 that is, it is an average level good such that the retest was received we received a letter do i agree or do i agree how come to the equator for the child to pass the iq test

even such a detail requires the permission of his parents. ilya will pass this test and he will be in the region of the rings, it is such a pretty good school and from next year he can already study there, but how do they study subjects such as mathematics , maybe he doesn't have physics yet and i don't remember i'm studying some more difficult subjects, biology, i don't know if the subject is english, there is mathematics, english is dutch , there are no other subjects because this school is aimed at learning the dutch language, it's for him these subjects will be in the next year he in parallel, the kyiv lyceum draws intelligence, of course, it is difficult to fall a little because he taught me very well well, unfortunately, it is difficult to drag two schools well, but the ninth grade we will definitely finish in ukraine to get an education, well , with an incomplete secondary education, the document is here well, physics, no biology, no mathematics you know thanks to the database of our ukrainian schools that my daughter and my son have very high results in english and in mathematics and in dutch, well, to be honest, do the children go to any clubs in the netherlands or do

they give it maybe free of charge for our children there is such an opportunity. ilya plays basketball, he played basketball in ukraine, he loves this game very much and he is tall, so agile . i am beautiful, yes, and zlatochka does acrobatics at such a school . she did gymnastics for about an hour and a half a week. the children generally like it there for the adaptation . after all, it is even more difficult for me to pay them because all the work is a man . well, it is really difficult for me. morally, i would have returned myself, but i understand that for the time being the children have to to give an opportunity to study calmly well, plus, you know, to live a little in a european country, it still changes a lot, let’s say, the idea of ​​the world in general, the truth is that they get along very easily with children in the netherlands from syrians of any nationality , dutch english is already fluent in them, so well,

let’s say more now how about the children because i will 100% return, i will live in ukraine , there will be children already well, i don’t know how things will turn out for us, then tell me what other pros and cons you see in life in the netherlands so that you brought with you when you come to ukraine from that country, maybe some traditions , customs. i really like how people decorate their houses in front of the house. in front of each housekeeper, some flowers , some statuette, some so pretty, so doll very, very beautiful. i like how holidays are defined here. i i like that people don't shout, there is never any aggression on the streets, no one smokes on the streets , only in certain places, no one eats on the street, we don't sit down, well, it's true, it's not only in this town where i live in amsterdam in gas be in rotterdam small towns you won't see it then i really like how they treat people

with disabilities even there a group of people with down syndrome they walk under there with them there will be one mediator there let's say so he goes they laugh to themselves as they do some physical exercises they can clean things on the street and even pay a small fee , special centers have a lot of such opportunities not only for children, but also for adults with physical and psychological peculiarities, this is also true for people of this age, but they are true themselves, well, not what they said, they are just a part of society, they are in restaurants, they are in cafes, they are in theaters, they are everywhere , they hold hands , these families are very traditional , and these hidden family relationships are the truth. it cannot be physical violence, even psychological shouting here is very strict, the laws are very strict, even the age restrictions on when you can leave children alone at home, this is all written down in the legislation, and how do parents

get to school themselves or do you take them well, look, for zlata, the provided transport is called a school taxi. the driver picks up the bag in the morning and takes them there with other children because it is an elementary school up to the age of 12. they study in elementary school from the age of 5 to the age of 12, and ilya goes by train for 20 minutes . in the neighboring city, in principle, he himself is calm about it and he can do it like this, the child is 14, he seems to be getting to the 14th 14 yes, he is 14 uhu well, and about the negatives of life. in ukraine well i don't have enough of our products, after all, borscht, some of our meat. well, i like vegetables, it's all so good

, beautiful, but i don't know what to say. the flavors of the candies, by the way, our candies are very tasty, she told you that there are many more varieties of sweets to choose from, what else? well, i have my job . i really like my job. i work remotely now for a while with one public figure. i'm wasting my qualification, i'm studying a lot, well, i just want to go home, my apartment, my cozy day. well, you know, i'll say it anyway. so we're still guests here, no matter how well we're treated. i'm very grateful. i 'll never forget this, uh, this attitude towards us, but all the same, we are guests. we are temporary guests here. we wish you the fastest victory . we wish all of us and the return of all ukrainians home and you directly lesya. thank you for finding time in your work schedule to join

our broadcast. lesya shelest joined and was the guest of my broadcast from the netherlands talked a little about this country, and then we will move further across the ocean to the united states of america, and today i have two guests who live in different states, so we will be able to compare what conditions, what offers and opportunities the american government provides for ukrainians in different states kateryna karpunina, a student with us kateryna i congratulate you good morning good morning i congratulate you too anastasia savchenko is also with us anastasia and i congratulate you i am very glad to see you thank you for joining the broadcast i i will note that now my heroines have a very early hour, they woke up for our broadcast, the first question is actually how did you get to the united states of america , because the first time in the first months of the full-scale

invasion, it was only possible to go through mexico, cross the border and ask for temporary asylum, so the story of each of you are interested, let 's katya , let's start with you in general. i started my own. it was quite a difficult situation and my mother and i decided to go to america because i know english, that was the reason, and then we found sponsors and found where we will live. this united for ukraine program is specially for biden.

ukrainians, you have the opportunity to go abroad on the 21st of august, we were already in america . now i'm in the middle of writing about these filling out the papers and leaving is quite a difficult story, because first you are there and you wait for six months or more to see if they accept your presence in the states , uh, then there, then, when you have already arrived, you have several forms there and insurance for medical situations, piles, piles, piles of papers to fill out and it's actually a bit boring. i'll ask anastasia about finding a sponsor . i never thought she'd be asked, but

the question sounds exactly like how to find a sponsor in the united states of america, because i know there's a certain site. so where people are registering who want to offer their help. please tell me if there are many such offers or if they agreed immediately . look at a-a a couple of moments. and first, i came here for the tourist spots immediately after the invasion began, and then a. i already moved through mexico a to yuhuya a what about dispensaries and as the guest already mentioned, filling out the documents can take some time and i actually help some ukrainians in the online com unity or in the charity fund to fill them in about

sponsors and i am the site welcome us and now i am is the new one where, in theory, there should be sponsors , they are there, but sponsors are already being collected, let’s say this very quickly, therefore, a more correct strategy is if you have a friend, an acquaintance, and what can help you ? it is important in american law because these people are not legally responsible for you and this is good because it means that finding a sponsor can be easier because it is difficult to take responsibility for another person but there is even a church even some organizations, in particular, the charitable foundation where i work, he remembers working, and he works as a volunteer, he helps sick children, they find sponsors in these children on their own. and my site is not so effective , it is more effective to have some acquaintances, in particular, how i translated, translated for people from americans who do not they know the ukrainians they invited, and

i was a translator who helped this family meet the ukrainians. that is, it turns out that a sponsor is purely a person with the help of which you enter the territory of the united states and legally remain a sponsor - it does not mean that he financially somehow supports you, provides you with housing and so on katya let 's answer this question already then hmmm regarding the sponsor the sponsor - this is your leading person in the usa your friend and so they do not owe us anything but if for example, a sponsor understands the situation of ukrainians. he can give some funds if you do not have work authorization yet . if you do not have any money, where can you work? but they do not owe you anything. they are just a guide. the fact that you are really this person is the governent, that is, the us government

, he confirms that he confirms that you are what you are, here are your passport data, the passport data of the sponsor, and through the sponsor, you are already issued a humanitarian password when you are in you go to the usa and then you can stay for two years, yes. and where will you live then, is there any kind of social housing provided by the state anastasia, i can add that yes, actually, the state expects that you will live with a sponsor or that the sponsor will finance you, so how i also translate for massachusetts registration so i know with help the state gives, and it may differ from state to state, but there is permission for financial assistance. some others are afraid of insurance, but housing, in particular, imagines that before you receive a work permit, you will live with a sponsor or in some way. currently, this has also been made easier , because they did so

that ukrainians can work before obtaining the right to work. where do you live, anastasia? i actually live with acquaintances. yes , with acquaintances. and you, kateryna, live as far as i saw from your photo with sponsors, yes , of some party. no, when did we come to america? one day we stayed with the sponsors for the following days we already lived in our own apartment we rented but uh it worked out in terms of funds because the apartment here is quite expensive uh about $2,000, ah we decided yes yes like the government like we are ukrainians and we are paid some funds, and the church from our sponsors helps us pay half, and we use our own funds provided by the government for our own needs. we also pay. this is my situation. in general

, there is no social housing as such. if the sponsor does not provide housing correctly there is no other program in the united states, okay, how much does housing cost, then anastasia, i’m sorry, one more question for kateryna in the continuation and then for you, uh, i also wanted to add that housing costs $2,000 and more is a little less, but in general , from $800 per person up to $1,000, and i also wanted to add that this is not always the case, for example, half of the church will be paid by sponsors, or we will be paid by the government when two people who came here, me and my mother, will work for us, we already have an authorization for work my mother is already working in the future, we will pay for everything on our own, that is, we are not americans, but we will have quite a lot, not to say benefits, but opportunities to pay, work, and live , that is exactly what gives you the opportunity to work. this is very important. anastasia, you said that you

volunteer, but you also work in an agency. do you translate any documents? as far as i understand, this is a paid job, how much is it highly paid, or vice versa. and this is a relative question. look, i am a volunteer, and the agency has help with documents, and i translate a letter with documents, and do not apply. at the moment, the agency is in massachusetts, they do not provide certain assistance to refugees there, and i translate the entire conversation with the ky manager for the employment team with the legal team, that is, i translate on the phone or on the phone and this fee is paid approximately $ 20 per an hour and this is official work, is it a lot or a little, but at the level of the united states of america , i will tell you that the minimum badge, that is, the minimum wage by mass, is 315 dollars, then it is not

the minimum, and that is already good. money, then each state has its own tax on these funds, that is, if you have a salary of $17, approximately 12% is simply taken from each of your hours, and each state has different ones , for example, new havefit - this is a small percentage of the tax, but in california it is quite large if in you, for example, a salary - two 20 dollars an hour is pretty good, well, it's pretty good money, but california, for example, will take more than 12%. yes , i know that some americans even move from state to state if they want to do business before for example, please, anastasia, what is your work schedule, are you overloaded, do employers respect the rights of their

employees ? look at this, where i work, this is a partner job . - and in advance and they do not overload me in any way. we create a schedule , we agree and actually apply it, and they work in the frame- er-e almost always when it is not an emergency situation. they work in the usual framework up to 5 hours, and with this yes, it is true that there are different taxes, this is also the case with me in texas, for example, i have no contact, that is, no income, for example, how do you get to work, is it far and what kind of transport