[000:00:00;00] two or three years to bring the new machine to serial production, that's another five to five years, that is, the realities are such that we will definitely not produce such a machine in ukraine. well, the prospects of ukrainian tank construction will be clear after the end of the war after of our victory p mykola thank you for these professional explanations and i would like to remind our viewers that on the espresso channel mykola salamakha , a retired lieutenant colonel of project management at the domestic defense and industrial company energy 2000, was on the air. conclusion that in addition to the courage and skill of our military, we need new weapons and new technologies. this is actually the path that guarantees us victory over the enemy in a short period of time . serhii zgurets was with you. and then the broadcast will be continued by olga leni

and her chronicles of information warfare. greetings serhii in general, we talked practically all week about china and how the chinese went to moscow, now we need to talk a little about other things about them just in a moment. congratulations , this week there was a lot of talk about the trip of the chinese to moscow, but apart from that there were also important things that russian propaganda constantly talked about, well, first of all, i will tell you that russian propaganda is very much expecting a ukrainian offensive, and judging by everything , it is very afraid of this offensive . the russian artillerymen are in full control, but that is, they are not in control, or zelensky did not visit the situation in artemovsk well, here you are asking, something is happening, i don’t know

the sources, but there are different sources i do not know the situation on the fronts, it is not easy at all. in the next few weeks, we will face a very serious challenge on the battlefield and around it, and here it is. the main thing is not to panic. you see how the rhetoric has changed. he is not going anywhere. it turns out that no one knows what is happening on the battlefield, not even the reporters they have there in donetsk . not even solovyov himself knows anything about what happened. well, let's see. they kept on announcing kharkiv oblast, that's all they got. kherson was announced there, too, well, we know now. no, the army of our

country , because it's necessary to listen to the canons. more panic well, actually, i would say this is the top topic that was promoted especially to the western audience, it was an attempt to change the concept and talk about the fact that the nuclear threat is coming directly from britain immediately , now it was about the fact that britain announced about what will be supplied to ukraine, e.e., new sub-caliber projectiles, e.e., with low -grade murano, and accordingly, this kind of thing immediately began, just a fierce campaign of russian propaganda against these projectiles, the ammunition is a lifting wound of vaska, the united states and nato countries used it during the invasion of iraq to understand and

the nazis invented them, the weapon is, strictly speaking , absolutely nazi, it poisons the area , increases the risk of oncological diseases , they reminded that the use of such ammunition is actually genocide genocide, both in relation to those who are targeted by a projectile, and those who use projectiles, and above nazi ammunition. well, let's listen to what else russian military experts say about these nazi ammunition. it must be said directly that there is not a single gram of explosive substance in этом прозылы no, this is an ordinary weapon, indeed, and yes, they are in service with both britain and the country, and the americans generally use eh in their abrams, armor plates are added, and

special m-m roll inserts from of combined uranium, to be honest, we have the same ammunition on our guns, there are 125 smoothbore guns on all of them, so what are you saying? is it true that nazi ammunition is on russian guns and tanks, it turns out that there are - it is worth understanding when this cry was raised, yes, er, russia never raised these issues, er, did not even make an attempt to ban these munitions, moreover, when the issue of depleted uranium munitions arose at the un very often, russia simply did not vote. well, they but they were very worried about it again. maybe because they developed them themselves. and now it’s just become profitable for them to shout something about it , so they shout. well, of course. on this occasion they did not tell some literally

enchanting stories and fictions that are deadly dangerous. i remember when a-a tried to find in the iraqis that the americans liberated a-a their favorite dish of brains - this is carp cooked on a bonfire, the most delicious iraqi dish, and for me they say, there is no comrade because our rivers are full of projectiles, er, combined with uranium, it is impossible to eat fish, that is, the whole environment will die, it will be external, it will be the same, there can be hares with two heads here, and so there is a populated place in zhelynka, take er in uzhbynka, you go there, you don’t drink the water, a long time ago, there were five people who lived there, they don’t drink the water because phosphorus was thrown at it, and a man took what a-a and boiled water for tea from a well that is common in this settlement, like many

of the other front-line a-a after phosphorous munitions make you nauseous and have a headache later in the day. how interesting it is that virak simply disappeared. it turns out that there are fish and hares with two heads . this will probably be news for the residents of cancer. well , of course, the eye tells about phosphorous ammunition . look how interesting it is. hop and jumped to another topic. it turns out. in donbas, it is from phosphorous munitions, there are some problems for local residents. and who uses phosphorous munitions in donbas, and is it russia? god , did this happen? yes, it definitely happened . go to google and you can already see what it is. it happened not once, not twice, not 5-10 times, they stand. it’s just that they and mariupol regularly bombed with phosphorous ammunition and bombed carefully, and they did not bomb it with phosphorous ammunition, and here it turns out that it is such a harm to nature, and why didn’t they think about it when they bombed, it was very interesting , but only now did they suddenly think. well, of course , the beautiful maria zakharova, on this occasion , the spokeswoman of the ministry of foreign affairs, also told how dangerous

it turns out to be to conduct hostilities in general, what a blow they inflict on nature. we all we understand very well that if the soil is contaminated in the rural areas of these territories, it is possible, in principle, to say all this is not just a lie - it is a cynical lie that is somewhere on the brink of real genocide. and therefore, in an emergency, literally a few months ago, valuable soil breeds were taken out , here it is the most fertile soil and they did it , including the polish neighbors of ukraine , they exported everything they needed for the development of their own agriculture well , of course, you already know zakharova i would like to use something newer, not only some old russian methods, well, that is, to somehow renew my

creative knowledge in general, because these conversations are about how the soil was taken away, but i don’t know that , they invented it in the soviet union, but uh, something it is interesting to understand that on the ninth nine years they destroyed the ukrainian territory with weapons, including the ecology in ukraine, and here they noticed how it turns out to be harmful in agriculture . and you, what is this? you really know when a person gets out and begins to tell something like that after they have already polluted 25% of the territory of ukraine and who did it, the russians did it, because of which we now have problems with our agrarians who are forced to sow with great difficulty because there are russian blood exchanges lying around it turns out to be very it hurts so that finally they found out about it. well, it’s great, they also have a new one. well, it’s not exactly new. they

’ve already used it before, but here they are again. happened due to the fact that there was nuclear contamination with uranium throughout the country, not only in kosovo, although there was no need for the use of these munitions due to the large savings , you have shells without these tips , this is the end of it, and there is an explosion, this uranium turns into radioactive dust. in europe, according to the number of oncological diseases , only in the first 10 years. from the moment the country crossed the border, more than 30,000 people fell ill with cancer, most of them died, but i picked up all this because it's just something like that you know well, it's a complete lie, it's just a complete lie to talk about radioactive uh, radioactive dust after the gravity uh, it's there well, i don't know, i'm not the only

one, but actually kiselyov there, a lot of people were scared the whole event - it's during this year, radioactive dust and it continues, the main thing to do now they are telling how it turns out to be dangerous there and most importantly above we heard that there is not a single gram of explosives in these ammunition there is nothing to explode what kind of radioactive dust did you go through in general but it is even interesting it is interesting this fiction about what is sick in in serbia, something is not the same as everyone else's and there is something more , yes. this is a complete lie, after all, the data of the international cancer institute that are given there is what is the annual number of deaths from the disease, relative to 100,000 people in the countries. the international agency for the study of cancer shows that serbia , well, in the best case, it is in the 17th place in the list of countries with the highest

incidence of cancer . we we always believe that we have a high incidence of cancer. no, it is not so high here. you will be very surprised, but the highest incidence of cancer is in such countries as australia, new zealand , ireland, usa, denmark, the netherlands, belgium, canada, france , these are the first ones on this list. you will also be very surprised, but for example, hungary is in this list a dozen positions higher than the same serbia . so, who did hungary there? does anyone remember norway, great britain, which is also much higher there than serbia. so it's just, well you know, this is completely a lie, moreover, it shows that well, maybe there are some slightly different causes of cancer than what they are talking about, well, but it is also interesting, and another thing is that it was

cancer itself, and there is another thing, this ratio disease to death from cancer and here is also enough. an interesting story, yes, serbia is indeed the second country in terms of cancer mortality per 100,000 population, but it is exactly in the same place where it stands. the same is hungary, that is, again, it is unclear. and what there someone bombed hungary, which is almost as much as in serbia, and in general . when we talk about mortality from cancer, we will see that there, for example, they dominate there , well, we also have slovakia , poland. there is papua new guinea, china, moldova, uruguay, well, that is, such countries, and uh, here there is a rather serious uh

, well, you know, in general, such a thing, you just need to understand what a tornado is. this simply means that cancer is not well treated in serbia. we are not talking about anything new. we all know very well that it is better to be treated there in israel, er, in the united states, germany . i don't know where there are five of those who got sick . four people are being treated in the early stages . it is getting better. there is a diagnosis. it is just an early diagnosis and than in such countries as, after all, ukraine, where, after all, every second person has such a risk of dying from cancer. and this is just a conclusion. it is necessary to treat better, it is necessary to check earlier , and in general, to check more and diagnose earlier, and this is the problem with such countries like serbia in which medicine is simply weak, and well, i will tell you that this is also good enough for us. we are not included in two

of the first 25 countries, neither morbidity nor mortality, that is, the situation in our country is actually like this. because it's always better to live in a country where four out of five people can be cured. that's it. well, it was a little bit off topic, but just so that it's clear to you how they manipulate in general, when someone takes over, someone there, something starts around her uh, wrap it up it's just a wrong interpretation, it's just otaka, here's an illustration to this well, but returning from to to depleted uranium to to this how is it how is it dangerous is this nuclear pollution how is it all scary how is this ammunition all these and right here in the same broadcast in which they told how which these are terrible projectiles with a poor mural we hear right away these are the jelly official moscow refers to the use of this weapon if it appears

in ukraine as the use of a dirty nuclear bomb our actions we then he strikes and while we why and what in my view.my we interpret it as the use of a dirty nuclear bomb again in the west as a counterargument to us, they can tell us that using these shells is not a dirty nuclear bomb, again they can tell us that a nuclear missile attack and still succeeds in the fields of being defeated by conventional means of defeat that's how they are, anyway, that's how the folding about them goes over they spit on us they spit that is,

you only understand that they shouted how is it yours how is it everything is dangerous from some projectiles out there that actually don't have such contamination , yes, and she's already talking about it here, let's interpret it all as a dirty nuclear bomb. well, that's all madness. no, let's still interpret it. because we want so much, because we really want to wave our nuclear weapons again, because we invented something ourselves, we drew some lines, and now we we are surprised that everyone thinks we are morons, yes that's what the russians think. well, well, because that's the way it is. well, that's why you can't be serious about any stupid thing like that. well, in the end, you all probably heard lukashenko's statements about how russia will supply nuclear weapons to the e-

to this lukashenka regime. well, i don't want to now. maybe we'll show this, but that's not what we're talking about right now, but there are already some threats. and here's what is being revealed about these threats to transfer nuclear weapons somewhere to someone and to use nuclear weapons somewhere to someone when the chanting brigade and not you don’t have to buy anything, everything is already there from the warehouse in 12 years, in the first strike, it’s 24 nuclear charges on the same poland, and it completely paralyzes the second strike because the transport charging machines are immediately behind them, practical bloodlessness can put an end to it, and it will not be there is no need to be afraid, time will show whether we will apply it or not, and it says that it is possible, that it is impossible, probably obsessively, it is possible , everything was explained to putin, yesterday they signed a statement in which

nuclear war is written in black and white, there is no way that we should have it razvyazana of the winners in a nuclear war can't be solved deeply, well, that is, until their trade friend shizenpin arrived with him, they signed that a nuclear war can never be resolved, and right away they begin to recognize that it's all stupid, didn't we sign there that we there, they promised their dear chinese friend, but it’s to the ass, because they really want it and we don’t have any borders, well, that’s before you sign at least anything with the russians, even if you’re such a full-on chinese leader, you can do it all, you know, they’ll throw away all these pieces of paper in general well, in general, in more detail about all these threats and the new state in general , this is about russian propaganda and their new narratives. let's talk about it with denis samygid - center for strategic communications and information security, an analyst of this center . congratulations denis, well, you also heard these all the shouts uh how are they why in general the russians so much and so well i would say they overreacted to

the supply of these munitions well let's see what the biggest event was related yes it coincided with this obviously it's language the head of china, er, in russia, and um, in fact, everything looks like it was a special company that was created in order to declare during a meeting with intelligence officer a that the west is very, very bad and is supplying here with nuclear weapons, er, some kind of terrible weapon and that's why we have to answer in principle, this can be interpreted as part of the company to the whole world about the fact that the west is the initiator of this war . i think

she was supported by president putin yes, and by the entire network of russian propaganda in particular , and the minister of defense of the sheik was also connected , respectively. and this is the topic of what they will now bet on this message on this narrative. what is the west delivering in ukraine is some kind of terrible weapon. maybe they saw that the white labs didn't really fly into them. yes, there are no facts there. and here, it seems, there are some concrete facts that can be spun to work as you want and scare people with it as you want. and now there is a noticeable one narrative uh they are trying to explain that well

look at this, the west has always invented such terrible weapons as nuclear weapons, this west was the first and used uh, the west used chemical weapons, and uh, accordingly, this uh changed uranium , it's just as bad, and it's cancer, there were diseases , it was in uh, yugoslavia in the former yugoslavia, it also caused a huge stress and a forgotten account. they clearly do not work for specialists. as you have just shown, the experts themselves do not believe in it very much, and the governments of the countries also do not believe it. history they are trying to influence ordinary people who are difficult for them to understand and who will simply see exercises well, i also think that in general this is just the company and these conversations of theirs about a surge there in serbia which is completely untrue because it is not so simple, it is not true it's not like that and all this is not true eh. this is all calculated even more for the population

not so much of the world as for the population of the occupied territories and even for the population of ukraine, because well, we have a certain radio phobia in ukraine, it's true, well, after that, it's very difficult, no to have a radio phobia after the chernobyl nuclear power plant explodes, and of course our population can relate to it in a certain way . there are cysts there and so on, it will be dangerous, but this is not true at all, because it is not the uranium that is phoning, it is not even a compound there, and what can be radioactive , there is no radiation as such, in principle, you know that the ukrainians captured projectiles, russian projectiles with uranium and released

uranium, and this was at the beginning of the invasion, because of that i know what type of projectile, but it seems that they did not have depleted uranium, but tungsten, that is, it was the same type projectile, but it’s just not, well, there is a slightly different subspecies of it, there was a message from ukrainian military bloggers on this topic. maybe they were mistaken, but at least we were a fact that russians in 1999. i’m sorry in 19 year a-a presented such a projectile with a uranium core and this is a fact and they use it if they use it in themselves at least it is there for sure it is in russia in a small amount and accordingly they are very worried that if it appears in ukraine it is there will be an advantage here, but i would also like to add about the impact on the world, eh. the fact is that now there is a noticeable

company that is deployed in the west, which ties exactly eh population, that is, specifically, for example, tomorrow in there will be a rally in manchester about the need to stop the war in ukraine because the money that we could pay our doctors and teachers for education, we give it all to ukraine and they buy all this terrible weapons and accordingly it is necessary to raise such a movement for peace, that is, for peace, so that ukraine does not have support. this is how the creation of such a new scarecrow , it falls into this idea, as it were, to raise

such a narrative that it is necessary to fight for peace. and here people who know history know what the soviet union traditionally used organizations that fight for peace in order to iron out some of its active operations , an operation of active action to block western democrats so that they could not defend themselves there, and so on, it has been since the fifties years, there were several organizations that were baptized before the 90th year so that they had no relation to moscow, and as a result, in the 91st year, when the archives were opened , it became clear that there was 90% of the huge funding of the world council for peace and the peace council froze, uh, it was funding exactly it came from moscow and accordingly according to the same patterns, yes , without changing anything in particular

. the struggle for peace is starting to unfold again. and for what it is necessary to stop and help ukraine because it is escalating because it is starting to spin up it's a new war. and who is doing it? it's being done by people who in the 70s were specialist communists . well, now they are again, if they were to believe, they were wrong. well, maybe not now , maybe it was still there and even before the 2000s. years, they also traditionally work this guy is against any actions er nato against nato for one foreign weapon er about what is it called the soviet company, it is called moral disarmament and by the way, where is the er answered this very nicely when the representative asked of the five-star movement

to the prime minister of italy regarding this, what kind of peace is peace? she answered perfectly there , she answered now, i won't show it because i thought about it a little, but she said what kind of struggle are you talking about, what do you say, honestly, it's not called for peace and give territories to ukraine and to encourage russian aggression, that's what it's called, it's not for peace, that is, you have to call things, but look, it's interesting to fight for peace, the russians suddenly pushed this whole network of theirs. yes, at the moment when ukraine started ukraine began to receive really modern, good weapons, what is the danger of these e- well, these projectiles , which the russians are very afraid of, they simply penetrate bunkers , they penetrate fortifications, not only tanks . a weapon that makes it possible to de-occupy the territory because it hits the bunkers well, of course, look, the russians are used to always being

in a situation where they are 10 times stronger than their victim, then they are so brave, then they run away, what are we so cool, we dominate and so on and now when the situation in principle is evened out and what is morally on our side or we were able to fight back in the most difficult moment it is clear that they are now in such need and react nervously enough or in principle well promotion at such a high level uh-uh like that uh, the topics with which the experts are laughing, well, it seems to me that this is a nervous reaction and maybe they can fill the tanks of ordinary readers there rush there somewhere in latin america yes this is a big problem in fact and a lot of people there believe that there are nazis in ukraine and it is not necessary if we should forget about it, that we also need to work with it, but the world elite, or

should we say society in general, the world or international community. it seems to me that with each such case, she sees more and more that well, inadequacy, then i agree with you. this there was denis samygin , well, actually, it is obvious that it will increase, as our guest pointed out, in coffee, the fight for peace is in quotation marks , the russians are making a serious bet to tell that it is necessary to just stupidly stop the war here, because they already have something there captured and now, let's do it like this, and in principle , i admit and it will be fine, but it won't be like that, we will be supplied with new weapons, we will use them, and accordingly, with these weapons, we will remove the russians from ukrainian