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[000:00:00;00] protecting the independence of ukraine is the main mission in japan. i had no military experience in ukraine . at first, i was trained in the first separate special brigade named after ivan bohun in zhytomyr oblast. i spent several weeks with it on the front line in lysychansk. sniper and was already in this role on the front line, this is a difficult specialization. since november 2022, i am undergoing training as part of the georgian national legion before my next trip to the front line. i was also on in the zaporozhye region, i performed both certain military tasks and underwent military training while on the front lines. i did not have direct contact with the russian army . i worked with scouts on maps and on the development of the area. or somehow they started shelling us heavily, then i and
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our suspect had to leave under this shelling. it was such a difficult experience that uh, here we have to be resourceful of course, since i only know japanese, mostly, we communicate with gestures, but when something is difficult, the guys show the text on the phone screen through a translator. i know with the georgians. for example, how will it be, hello camera? and another question, is everything okay and the answer ? yes, everything is fine, it is normal to be in ukraine as long as my physical condition does not allow me. i want to be here before the victory of ukraine, this is the first, but after i don't even think about it yet, it's hard to imagine what will happen next, i can't say that i feel lonely in ukraine , i'm fine, yes, it's not that i can talk to anyone very much in the georgian legion, but i
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'm also very talkative in life, my family remains in japan, my mother dad and younger sister, but i don't feel longing for the idea, to be honest, the war in ukraine united a lot of foreigners in the armed forces and the reason is that it's not only a problem of ukraine, if ukraine loses it will be a problem for all countries it will be a loss of peace in the whole world, that is, there will be no peace. if ukraine is defeated, there will be even more war , and russia and china will begin to invade other countries , will begin to suppress their national liberation movements, and there will be even more horrors , so i think people come to the war because they understand the situation in ukraine. i managed to meet and make friends with several people, in particular in zhytomyr, in the brigade where i was trained even before the first deployment to the front. i also found several people who speak japanese in kyiv with them. also, we already
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communicate with ukrainians, i want to say one thing in under no circumstances do not lose heart in any way, lest there be a victory itself, do not lose heart, just for this the representatives of the uoc mp continue to leave the kyiv-pechersk lavra, the contract for the use of the monastery and i remind you expires on march 29, by this date the churchmen of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate must vacate the reserve at least this is what is stated in the order of the ministry of culture , the removal of property is currently underway, these are the shots we took literally today, they show that refrigerators and furniture are being taken out of the buildings loaded in a car and taken away, journalists record the process of removing property from the lavra. since the beginning of the week, the minister of culture and information policy oleksandr tkachenko said earlier on our broadcast that the process of departure is controlled by law enforcement officers, according to
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the minister, the inspection procedure excludes the removal of museum valuables. and if they discover the absence of certain state documents objects will be punished in accordance with the legislation , tkachenko clarified, although it is not clear how such an inspection is carried out, because today svoboda filmed the process as they check cars leaving the territory of the lavra, the procedure lasted about 30 seconds, the driver stopped, the patrolman simply looked inside the bus, despite the fact that the process of removing the property is ongoing, the vicar of the holy assumption monastery of the uoc mp, metropolitan pavlo, once again stated that the monks will not leave the territory of the kyiv-pechers lavra in a video message to the public published on the youtube channel of the lavra, pavlo explained that the monks cannot speak from the reserve because they have no place to transfer their things, we have two
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weeks until march 29 to move out this is not to be done under any obstacle because in 35 years the brothers have done everything to improve the life of the monks for the pilgrims, here we have everything that is necessary for life, the kitchen, the second one, the embroidery shop , the laundry, because there are many pilgrims coming today, we have no place, we have nowhere to go, all of this we are driving, we
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are leaving nothing out of proportion. they will protect their sanctuaries together with us" in ukraine, he said this during his visit to lithuania, routers reports, and then i will quote: the church and the state leadership of russia cooperated in committing crimes of aggression, they share responsibility for crimes such as the shocking kidnapping of ukrainian children end of quote yaroslav hrytsak - a historian and professor of the ukrainian catholic university joins our broadcast yaroslav i greet you good evening glory to ukraine glory to the heroes mr. yaroslav so the ecumenical patriarch farfolomius called the russian orthodox church is also responsible for the war crimes in ukraine how realistic
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is it that the rpc will bear responsibility and in what form it can be that responsibility in ukraine has two ukrainian language has two meanings that do not really distinguish i what children say bees and what they say with to the respondent, that is, in the first case, it really corresponds to the skin of the crime and not a secret punishment, and in the second case , it is morally, morally, i think that in the fc church, the institution bears the reality of responsibility, but it includes that individual the reactionary priest will later be held responsible because they worked with russia in the activity and probably took part . everything goes to the orthodox church, only the christian society
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, a few great stories. and almost 1000 years of history, you know it as enough that the orthodox church, because they will be found about symbolic power, who has 100% here has their own decisions , you just know it's about what well, the same as a little sculpture, that's exactly what you're losing a dominant position in us, who tried to tell us to protect dance certification and what's changing and it will be difficult for me to work with them i would even say, you know why there are chances in the composition, it is because for every heart to get rid of personal states from this , there is a chance to establish, of course i know it is not the one that i am still looking at that i myself used it all ready, we unpackers went through that
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that our goals were a tragedy, that is, the society is called, let's see, this is the orthodox church, mr. yaroslav, well, the uoc-mp synod has already declared that they will protect it by all available means, literally. and how far do you think they are ready to go, ready to go to the ukrainian orthodox church in an effort to stay in kyiv to the pechersk lavra , i doubt that it is possible to be what will happen, we can see how uh, well, regarding i apologize, when you started speaking, you could hear much better maybe you are covering the microphone with your hand or a little closer to the microphone, please. great, so good to hear. thank you, but if you can repeat the question, please. well, they have already stated that they will stay in the lavra by all available means. how far are they ready to take your opinion in their efforts to stay in the kyiv-pechersk lavra? i think that this these words which others are not supported by our vision as a song as their orthodox passover of the moscow patriarchate perceive those things quite passively that means look at the monument almost
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certainly very quietly at the naming they were almost quiet there is no opposition i think that here case because it is this church is strong only when it has state support when it is state support the support disappears then it costs weak i think it is just words behind which there is nothing in the end we will write and see but i have seen those strong attempts, you know our colleagues who filmed the property case there today draw attention to the fact that the clergy themselves no longer pay attention to journalists, so to speak, but the faithful behave in some places even aggressively towards the journalists who are trying to film this process yes, i understand that for sure there will be some believers assume older women only about doing to be hindered by the work of a body or a journalist i skip you know but it is not a rally of thousands or 10,000 not a rally - it will not be it is something everything will be individual individuals if the mirror is really so important for a jew, then we would now see mass rallies and squares. and we don't see anything like empty
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yards. you show it perfectly. that is, i don't think that you know that there will be some kind of real , real split. i'm not saying it right. i want to understand i'm not i don't blame all the options i call this amount the church but i think it's very good for the church to finally get rid of state support read another normal church in the country i think this is actually their chance taking a step back did i understand you correctly that you we are sure that on march 29, at this deadline, when the uoc mps of the kyiv-pechersk lavra is to leave
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, there will be no provocations." yes, also, some priests see what is being done, actively cooperated with russia with the aggressor country. so i think that here, some kind of intervention by the russian government of the kremlin is no longer so important. although they will of course talk about it, but you know, i just see it all happening quite quietly, quite quietly, there won’t be a big story from this as soon as you heard mr. yaroslav. well, at the very end, when it was mentioned that with the agreement of the rpc , in fact, the deputies of the kyiv city council renamed mazepa street to lavrska street. and in fact, now it does not fall under such a name , not under decommunization or decolonization,
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but should the previous name be returned to in your opinion, i think so, but this should be a military commission of historians, obviously , which should work under the kyiv city council , which should make this decision about it, but i don't think that lavzkoi street is so bad , it's quite normal that the name for this was made by just such a lavra, it's them let's go symbol, he is a symbol of ukrainian, here he is. he should be given a ukrainian meaning, since he is original, this is the meaning of the very beginning , mr. yaroslav, thank you very much for finding the time and opportunity to join the broadcast, yaroslav hrytsak, a professor of historians at the ukrainian catholic university, was in direct contact with us. well, it is quite likely that the pcmp churchmen will have to remove the property from one more church, but also to move the entire building to a new place . we were talking about an arbitrarily erected church near the tithe church in kyiv. in february of this year, the economic day and you were satisfied with the lawsuit of the national museum of the history of ukraine and
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the decree that the temple should be demolished because the moscow patriarchate did not have the right to the museum land on which it was erected, the church did not agree and filed an appeal, her court battles are still ongoing, but this church was far from the only case of church construction without all the permits, the investigators found out the details further in our material, the church was located in the very center of the capital, the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate began to build it a long time ago and gradually for 15 years , the temporary tent grew into a wooden chapel and later into a full-fledged brick church, but to build a structure in front of the national museum of the history of ukraine and near the foundation of desyatynnaya the church, the church members had no legal grounds for this, public activists, museum workers and the ministry of culture have repeatedly stated this, with which we went to court, because despite the ownership of the building, the church had no rights to the land
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, moreover, the chapel was located in the buffer zone of unesco monuments, where new construction is prohibited the heyday of the power of this church lark it falls precisely during the period of yanukovych's rule in the management of the museum everything was good for them there were their people well and accordingly they built everything they wanted there it is illegal it is not built built in violation of the current legislation of ukraine, and it is the one that should be demolished, the historical museum on the territory of which this illegal building is actually located , filed a lawsuit in court in the 20th year, it was not accepted , finally during the war, it was accepted for consideration by the city nor the historical museum did not give consent to the construction of this maf e-e type of church on the territory where, in fact, where it came from, it went to kyiv, this is the historical land where
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the tithe church was, put an end to the many years of drag in february 2023, the lawsuit of the national museum of the history of ukraine the economic court of the capital satisfied the arbitrarily built temple of the iaf of the church of the moscow patriarchate must be demolished at the expense of the church and the ownership of the building canceled and the church members did not agree with this decision already in march they filed an appeal , the decision to dismantle the building is called a challenge and they accuse the authorities of fighting religion, watching the last by the actions of the state in the religious sphere, it becomes clear that there are some forces in power that, in the 32nd year of ukraine's independence, are only covering up by renaming lenin street as fig street in fact, they plant with photocopy accuracy in today's ukraine lenin's idea about the fight against religion, the church should have some documents for the church that has been standing here for a thousand years
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, the church has been standing here for a thousand years, and tkachenko is asking for documents for the land, this is illogical this nonsense, although the church is the most famous , it is not the only religious building of the uoc mp in kyiv erected in violation of the law, this was found out by journalists of the investigation of info, according to their calculations, the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate erected about four dozen churches illegally or on dubious grounds that we found out within the framework of the church gold project that out of 150 church objects in kyiv that the russian orthodox church owns or claims to be its objects, 25%. that is, about 40 temples
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, chapels, er , these churches are small and large. they work without permits and we realized that this is simply an uncontrolled process. there, the kyiv city council does not allow us to carry out any, but it is still being built, functions according to the information of the distribution or in churches that have problems with legality, scattered both in sleeping areas and in the center of the capital. in parks, squares on the territory of state institutions , in hospitals, in historical areas, such as near askoldova graves, where the plot of land has not been allocated for the construction and maintenance of the temple. and also in podil, where another ancient brick temple of the 12th century used to be located, there is a purposeful policy of the russian orthodox church for building half of kyiv's lower lavra is now built up completely illegally, god knows what the chicken coops are there, i literally mean chicken coops with chickens where the original historical landscape should be preserved, why are there so many temples without land and what is the government doing about it in
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the department of land resources answered with the request of the investigators three years ago , they applied to the kyiv state geocadastre , which is responsible for checking the use of land plots, whether in the end state control measures were carried out, they do not know at the same time in may 2022, the executive bodies of rural settlement and city councils received the authority to control and protect land. kyiv city council, in particular, does not allow inspections to be carried out. the state of war in the national museum of the history of ukraine does not allow. they hope that the uoc mp will remove the temple from their territory by the end of the year. kore can extend the deadline. of the court process in the appeal, who built it and should have demolished it, but let's see. i think that there should be cooperation with the kmda regarding how to do it, eh. i think that precedents
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- this when illegal buildings are built on historic lands, if they did not call them after them , the verkhovna rada registered a bill prohibiting the use of patriotic names, the number and not in the names of brands or in their advertising, nowadays on the shelves of stores you can see azovstal radish seeds and bucha drink and even the armed crackers of ukraine , what punishment do they offer for entrepreneurs who try to speculate on military issues and how do ordinary ukrainians feel about it, my colleague roksolana found out about radish seeds called azovstal marigolds heroes of the upa, crackers advertising, armed crackers of ukraine, a lighter with the image of oleksandr matievsky, who died for shouting glory to ukraine, as well as an advertisement for laser hair removal, which is supposed to strengthen the army for a year of full-scale war with russia, in advertising or in the names of products , you can often find similar marketing and are they always
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similar appropriate radish azovstal vodka bakhmut ice cream trench under raisins cocktail shooting in buch just stop it's wrong you 're doing it you're not doing it out of a sense of patriotism you're doing it out of a desire to increase sales you're selfish motive and we will continue to choose the winner in the nomination of the bottom of the year of the armed forces of ukraine, this is the armed forces of ukraine, not breadcrumbs, but forces, the disease of marketers is progressing in order to limit entrepreneurs in such advertising, the verkhovna rada registered a draft law that provides for fines for such use of patriotic symbols , we propose to significantly limit the use in advertising and when will there be new registrations of trademarks? well, let's say that there are events in our country that are related to the mm measure of copper, as far as the defense of our country is concerned, there is
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a list of those laws of ukraine that deal with and pretentiousness and advertising, and of course those executive bodies responsible for this. they should monitor this, limit it and , in principle , not register it. and what is not registered, of course. deputies propose to ban the use of the names of the units of the armed forces and the names of weapons such as javelin . is it bayraktar when we see vodka on the shelves, does that mean bayraktar? is this acceptable from a moral and ethical point of view? i am absolutely not sure. we should not hype ourselves up, we did not become victims of such russian aggression, but the draft law was only registered in the parliament , so there is also no clear procedure. how and who will punish the violators, the deputies will still have the opportunity to make amendments to
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the document during the review. it is difficult for me to say now what the prospect of the law's passage is in the hall, although, yes, i know many deputies from many factions of the groups, who are outraged by this exploitation, well, very important sensitive things now for every ukrainian citizen, a citizen, in two months it is possible it can be accepted at the same time radio svoboda interviewed ukrainians on the streets of kyiv, we asked how they feel about such marketing of brands and whether it is worth punishing it with fines i think it is possible well, there is a check when not to use it with alcohol or something else, but when it is sold a normal clothing-type product probably doesn't need to be licensed anymore, i don't think it's disrespectful to the army or our symbols, but now people are really reacting, i myself work in advertising, people are reacting to things related to the war with
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courage, well, catching hype on such things are me i think it's not very good, it's definitely necessary. how would it be divided into some categories? it's definitely not possible. there are such , well, serious things on the underpants. if it has nothing to do with these things, or it's somehow humiliating, how to say dignity, then i think that this should not be done, the slogan of the armed forces of ukraine, he supports the army of speculation, because they attract attention by speculating with names, and on the other hand, this is blasphemy. well, no , it shouldn’t be something higher than brands , let’s say so. what people have experienced well, of course, yes. it slightly lowers the position of these brands in the market, in my opinion. taras town hall, a military officer and public figure, joins our broadcast
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, and taras, good evening. i congratulate you. good evening. you are one of the signatories of the statement on the inadmissibility of the exploitation of war themes in advertising or marketing. your signature, first of all , is the signature of a public figure or a military serviceman, definitely as a public figure, as a citizen of ukraine, as a person who, with the whole society, is experiencing our current collective trauma related to the war and us in i can say from my personal experience that i am very impressed when you get into a peaceful world . so, if you haven't been to a supermarket for a month or two , the range of products has already changed, and sometimes you come across something that simply drives you into a stupor, or
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you see the same thing as on social networks and even the advertising that is pushed to you by social networks on the internet causes the same effect , you just don't understand at first who it is aimed at and then you understand that maybe society has somehow changed during this time, until a week i really did not contact and i saw this is based on the example of other servicemen, my brothers, and they often discuss this and they also talk about such an effect that they observe because of the inappropriate use of symbols that were born in the year of pain of ukraine and the inappropriate use of
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dramatic events that which we are going through against this. during this year, it is very important to start changing a little, so you know, so far it is only about the draft law, there will probably be many more amendments, and how do you think the limit should be determined, what is possible and what nothing is acceptable and what is not, you know. i personally did not expect such a level of solution to the problem, that is, the draft law is beyond the limits of my own expectations. i don't know how many others will sign or the authors of this open appeal. did they have any expectations that they had. as far as i understand, the open letter was addressed primarily to journalists, primarily to the advertising business of entrepreneurs, with the aim of awakening in
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them some elementary call for self-regulation, because our legislation still does not have any did not interfere in this sphere in general, there are no legal restrictions on the registration of trademarks or anything in advertising, well, except for those that are clearly prescribed in the category of goods that cannot be advertised exactly, and therefore all this existed solely thanks to the regulation itself. and this is normal. the fact is that for this year, our reality has completely changed, things that were at the top of uh emotional experiences in society they appeared only unfortunately thanks to the war and the fact that now uh marketers are studying what
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resonates most with society they find there the products of war are the products of tragedy and they use it for monetization, this is a sign that self-regulation and self-censorship did not work, and therefore the purpose of this open appeal was, first of all, to somehow launch this mechanism of self-censorship and regulate it at least at the workshop level. what do you think are the legal or moral-ethical mechanisms here that will be more effective when through public publicity and, in particular, the understanding that this affects the feelings of servicemen, armed forces, and people?
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who personally experienced a tragic experience in buchach azovstal, what would be more effective here , in your opinion, we need to see, to be honest, hmm, it does not seem that we can solve too many things with laws where people do not themselves understand the need to stop first - at a certain moment or think twice before using something that can cause, in addition to hype, also traumatic feelings in someone, and in fact there are a lot of these someones, it is actually the entire ukrainian society that experiences this tragedy every day and it has not stopped we today we haven't won yet, we have no reason to say that now the war is over and everything, let's celebrate with a themed beer or some other wonderful trademarks that someone managed to register in

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