[000:00:00;00] they followed the russian ship this was the program of the collaborator and i am olena kononenko see you in a week on the air with the press good day friends, as promised we will be back on tuesday andriy saichuk and lesya valyuk for the next three hours i had to introduce myself because if i don't introduce myself, andrii sometimes forgets we will spend the next 3 hours in your company, and you in our company . we will have many interesting guests, and we will talk with them about the deportation of ukrainian children, how to return them from russia or the occupied territories, and about bayraktar region as neo-asharovarshchyna, does she have the right to exist? is it better or is she actually uh, one of the politicians to have a beautiful story, she sang so nice

, so ukraine kalinova, my mother is super and i’m for the muscovites already well, like, well, in fact, it’s all the same , what to sing because such songs are quite eye-catching as they say in folk wisdom, do these songs help ukraine or raise the fighting spirit of ukrainians? or, on the contrary, do they harm ukraine, ukrainian culture, ukrainian music? that concern ukraine, let's summarize a little this week. well, for starters, we'll talk about what's happening in pokrovsk, what in donetsk region, how far it is from avdiivka and bakhmut, is it quiet there, how do people live there, or are they evacuating from there ? we'll talk about this at the beginning

with margarita and drisova, the deputy head of the pokrovsk city military administration, we will start the roll call of this part of ours with her, uh, i haven't started, is ms. margarita here yet, andriyu, did you hear yes, yes, uh, mr. yes, ms. margarita is with us, ms. margarita good day to you good day glory to ukraine glory to the heroes ms. margarita there if you look on the map, from pokrovsk to bakhmut to avdiyivka, what non-stop we see in the daily news by hand, how is life in pokrovsk now with such a neighborhood ah , you know we live already on the front line , let's say so

, for almost more than a year , a lot of displaced people are arriving to us, we accept them. blockades, what was the blockade? i mean the transport one. we have a lot of volunteers working in our locations who go to the city where it is very hot and take people out of there, and we have an ongoing evacuation, and thanks to the leadership of the regional military administration , we work together with them. we cooperate and evacuate people who come to us every day. every day there is an evacuation train, don’t excuse me, and it goes to the west of ukraine. there are special cities of accommodation for these people, and the regional military administration already

meets them and accommodates them. therefore, it is our life. -is let's say in the rear city, it continues. we help those places and cities that are currently suffering from shelling, but we ourselves also sometimes come under these shellings and eliminate them, so this is how we live. this bakhmut and avdiivka and the reeds and small villages that suffer shelling in the bakhmut district from avdiivka, well, from any cities, from kramatorsk and so on, they go from villages to places where there is a lot of shooting and where there is cooperation of

the regional administration and the national police where the white angels work and evacuate people from all the cities of the donetsk region, where they suffer simply from shelling. and these are mostly older people, are they mothers with children, is there any such feature of those who are trying to evacuate, well, first of all , the decree on forced evacuation is now in effect, it is contrary to what i wanted to emphasize, yes, of course, white angels, our national police cooperate with parents who have children in order to evacuate them, that's why they leave more often, children with parents, let's say yes, but in principle, people children are also moving out, which is an incentive for parents to finally make a decision. people who have survived a whole hard winter in the winter very often without heating, without water, that is, in extremely difficult conditions that neither kyiv nor even lviv and other cities can even

dream of. what finally forces them to go now and with some kind of fear they are traveling in the boat, they are afraid and what i expect them in reality er in reality when we meet these people when we start talking with them er first of all they fear for their lives it's children they say so, but i have always emphasized that evacuation saves lives and children, as you said, are really an incentive to continue living , to save their lives, and of course their own lives, but we have had such rare cases when parents did not want to evacuate, they gave their children to their grandmothers grandfathers and they left with elderly people, that is, people under

shelling are less afraid for the lives of their children than when going somewhere to some concentration camps or something, they are not afraid of anything in principle, can some people from bandera drive them there, there were such and such, there were such accents in them they say: where are you taking us? we will live there somewhere in camps and so on . well, you know all this when a person lives without communication . on the big land, we tell them, well, look, it's calm here, well, it's more or less relatively calm here, you can go to the hospital, you can go to the market there, you can just live a calm life, they say, no, there is no life anymore

, because they didn't have it. there is no connection in them there was simply no information about what we should do after the war, i understand it now , we just have to take children from school in such a practically forced manner and give them mandatory vacations somewhere in lviv , for example, once a year, and vice versa , yes just because this is what god gives for when there were exchanges when children from the east came to the west of the country for holidays and then the children of the west went to visit those children and in this way various myths that were imposed on us by russian propaganda that we now have such programs and pokrovsky and i, our children were often invited to new year's holidays, and families from lviv hosted our families and shared the traditions of celebrating christmas or any other

holidays. came back and said that it is very cool there, very cool, that's why you are right, we need to do these exchanges, and i want to tell you another story that when we accept people from bakhmut, for example, from bakhmut, they will stay here for 2-3 days, they will live with us in our points and then you come to them and they they say listen and here we slept so well, we ate our fill, we are here it's calm there, something rustled somewhere, they say god it's already scary i say how did you live there when they beat you every second, they say you know we already know that we don't understand anymore and we don't anymore let's go back to where they are shooting, but when we took

them from there, they said that they are not shooting at us , everything is fine, we live here in the basement, we live well. before the war she too she can also adapt to constant gunfire, she can adapt to living in the cold, she can adapt to comfort, that's why we are normal people, we adapt, and it 's very scary from the point of view of psychologists that people adapt to shelling, they want it to be normal, that's why she doesn't understand why they forcibly evacuate that we are worried about them for their lives. thank you, ms. margarita , more than once. we have said that children cannot be held hostage by their parents, who lack oil in their heads. thank you very much, ms. meteorite drisova

the deputy head of the pokrovsk city administration, where did the train from donetsk come from, you know that there is such a whole science now, it is very strong in marathon, the only news now is showing different er-e palmist astrologers, by the way, there will also be an astronomer today, there will be astrology, astronomy - these are different sciences as for those divination on coffee grounds, this one in the ears of coffee drinkers, this is real science, it’s not a joke at all, but a person recently tried to divination on a tooth, on a soup , super, that’s a super broth. and what does it tell us? the future, so to speak, and this is what happened in a spoon, a very interesting warning was formed from a spoon, so to speak. for all people, are you sure that we can show it on our air, that is, such an untranslatable game

of words we all know these two words putin ugh, well, but we are still on the air and children can watch us, and we will not teach bad things, but if you like such macaroons and breezes, then you can put these two words together, as you know, high. well, eh- well , it doesn't matter how it reads at all it doesn't matter. yes, very interesting. ok, let's continue . our next interlocutor is oleg baturin, a journalist from the crimean center for journalistic investigations. he is from novaya kakhovka, kherson oblast.

in the chat and what is the russian world, the russian world, and what is the ukrainian world? what is the conclusion of the russian world, so to speak, the orthodox russian world in 3 seconds, there is a beautiful video in moscow, they filmed a group that we have , andrija, who worked for us this morning, i work for someone who forwards well, i have already done it for places, but just really a story happened recently, a moscow priest in moscow would explain the trade in flowers as if it is the territory that there is the moscow church there only she can sell useful things yes well in a word that is he would explain culturally very much that the woman

it's not necessary here to sell flowers here i work here look how it looks i thought she wanted to ask for his blessing like this oleg is a journalist from the baturyn church, he is a journalist from the crimean center for journalistic investigations , who himself comes from novaya kakhovka, mr. oleg , good day to you what can you hear from novaya kakhovka there natalia humenyuk, the head of the press center of the southern command, explained this strange information that first appeared from the gesthab saying that the russians were pushing their heels and then and then there was a refutation that fifth, they hinted at me that they are still staying in novaya kakhovka , and she said that they simply had such a large-scale rotation among the occupiers, and that's why at first i got the impression that they were leaving, packing, packing their things and leaving novaya kakhovka, so no

went, stayed there, conducted a rotation, how do they behave? after this rotation , do you have any information, this is not the first time it has happened, uh, the local residents themselves talk about the fact that the russian military occupiers, uh, are enough, that is, a lot, well, the locals told me that they did not notice any such a-ah rotations. their direct speech can indicate that on thursday they were when we entered the house and on friday when they went out. they were also in the city a-ah they are there and in the surrounding settlements, they usually go to local shops and buy some products in the market . thus, mostly local residents see them because

there are large numbers of russian soldiers there, local residents. well, they hardly go there because it is simply dangerous. the occupiers themselves do not allow them to go there, for example, in the coastal zone or outside the settlement closer to the dnieper, there will be the kakhovsky reservoir there, even the occupiers in fact do not allow local residents to go there, and the shelling continues in the left bank kherson region, yesterday there was very heavy shelling in the area adjacent to yes, we have some problems with by communication, we will try to restore it with oleg, and for now, i wanted to say this today's information about the askania-nova biosphere reserve , i am so sorry that i did not visit there, because now there are still

before the full-scale invasion took place before the occupation took place because now the russians have established their administration there. and we know how they take care of all living things. how they spoil everything with their words. now russian proteges rule there and say that they tried there the first deputy of their administration and the president of russia serhii kiriyenko and saldo saldo must have come with another raccoon or przewalski's horse, i don't know who it is , probably he wants them to confirm that they like the russian world, although i suspect that uh, residents of askania nova, definitely don’t worry, peace is with us, mr. oleg, oleg, continue . well, you already said about askania nova, i reported about it already this week , about these appointments

. protected areas and nature conservation areas of the kherson oblast of the left bank part of the country seem to have little place, and in the national nature park of dzhaleratsky, for example, they appointed their protégé there too, which the local residents do not know, or rather, the employees of this park do not know, and what is more, they wrote in to the russian register that the main activity of this nature conservation area from now on will be hunting, shooting of wild animals, they are also going to be engaged in the restaurant business by water transportation , well, in general, to develop tourism, the same thing in askania, they have already announced this, despite the fact that in february, the occupiers themselves they announced a strict quarantine on the territory of the askania-nova biosphere reserve, which was associated with an outbreak of neck flu

. 23 young ostriches died there. 23 young ostriches died there. askania-nova, it happened in february, you know, i fought with ukrainian museums, for example. they take everything to themselves in russia and then sign that it is the russian federation, well, or they used to sign that it was the russian empire, and here and here it’s even worse, that is, they they don't take these animals out, they just arrange some kind of safaris, they will organize shooting of these rare species, well, in general, with horror. now we are thinking about it, and the employees of these e-e parks and reserves will hope for

the best. and the main thing is that the armed forces of ukraine will be able to liberate this territory of the kherson region before the occupiers settle there. well, while they will destroy everything there, what if, returning to novaya kakhovka, how important is this point in fact for the russians? and i understand that it is not really - they will be the last to leave from kakhovka, or can you say that? just like that, as soon as they started asking me about what was happening there, and whether the russian military remained there, i immediately said that i did not observe any signs that the russian military from the coastal zone of the left bank have gone somewhere or are going to go at least for the time being, because a huge number of them just appeared in the last few days, their presence has increased many times in such settlements as a large one attacks oleg with phone calls, he connects to us using the phone and therefore

when the usual the call is a phone call, it turns off the video, that's why we have it from time to time, and by the way, natalya gumenyuk , while i'm talking, i explained why there was such a previous message that it seems that they are coming from novaya kakhovka, so, so, so cool. with us, mr. oleg, mr. oleg, please continue, and why is this territory of interest to them, nova kakhovka and the neighboring city of tavriysk, in the city of tavriysk is located on the north crimean channel, that is, they directly say that one of the goals of the so-called special military operation an attack on ukraine and there was the seizure of the northern crimean canal , the establishment of control and the supply of water to the crimea, they are talking about this in the direct text, so

the risks still remain because they will hold on to this territory, and of course nova kakhovka, because the kakhovka hpp is located there, and the availability of water to the north crimean canal also depends on its activity, because by the way, there were already problems with the filling of the north crimean canal, e-e, which were connected with the fact that the kakhovka reservoir started lower to the water level due to the actions of the occupiers. well, they also understand that, well, they need water first of all, well, actually, here's another argument why they will try to keep nova kakhovka, er, in the hands of the invaders. well, but eh, i think that there are other plans in the army and the armed forces of ukraine oleg baturyn was with us. thank you very much, a journalist of the crimean center for investigative journalism, himself from novaya

kakhovka, kherson region, which is currently under russian occupation. meanwhile, we will include our next guest in the conversation. i want to announce to you about the collection that espresso is holding a new collection that we announced because this week we just recently informed you that we have already collected for one car that is needed for the defenders of the company named after me dzhikhanov in the 251st battalion of the 241st brigade, you can now see the details on your screen, and i can see qr-codes and also card numbers. who does not know how to use a qr-code ? you can just write it down by the card number and transfer the funds. in fact, we need to collect it again together with you uah 500,000, these cars are needed for the front line urgently , by the way, why

is this company called by the name of nema? the first language is the team of muslims of crimea, lithuania, poland, belarus, and in fact, in this company, released defenders of ukraine released from polonnoy, members of the ato, as well as those who do not want to be drafted in the occupied territory, and actually for them, now they are in such a direction where it is very , very hellish there, cars are expendable their material, their life expectancy, this car is not long, but these cars fortunately save the lives of our military, so please add it to this collection, let's get it here as soon as possible, we will close it, we will announce what already we managed to send another car. well, when we do that, then we will start another collection. by the way. by the way, you and i have already collected more than a large part of the necessary amount. the total amount needed is about uah 500,000. "how are you drunk

? i don't know how to call it correctly. he promised that soon everyone will see the russian sarmat intercontinental missile at washington in the decision-making center, and now it has already been spotted on the streets of moscow. this missile is made of cardboard, however, it is a very different combat weapon for washington, they signed a cardboard sarmat already on the way, another one was sent no , it didn’t fly there, now we will prove it, this is the next one, this is already an improved version, it is long-range and has flown a meter this one will fly by at least two. they work there, so friends , let's add ivan varchenko, an expert on national security, to the conversation, mr. ivan . good day to you. good day. glory to ukraine

. glory to the heroes. from volodymyr zelenskyi that the ukrainian counter-offensive may not start because we have a problem with weapons, we need weapons against the background of these statements by western politicians, in particular, the czech president said that ukraine must make a counter-offensive this year that she won't have any more chances, because then the help from the west will weaken because of what is going on. that's how the circumstances are going to be. there will be elections in the united states of america and they won't have any foreign problems. they will be focused on their own on their elections and here we have such a message from the president of ukraine. that is, it seems that we have to make this counteroffensive, but on the other hand, we are dependent on receiving weapons from the west or whether this counteroffensive will take place in the end . of course, this is an axiom that does not need any

additional proof. ukraine will release its occupied territories, ukraine has the opportunity to liberate its occupied territories , usually by attacking, usually by destroying enemies , and of course, the offensive can begin with a contrast if we say that today day the main offensive actions in our country are carried out by the russian federation since the beginning of february, which practically tries with living waves from the living force somewhere to break the situation in its favor . it does not succeed . at the same time, they call it a big offensive, it is clear that the ukrainians in a contour offensive

are easily repulsed and pushed back the enemy several hundred meters kilometers from their there are positions in the authorities, and now they managed to fulfill the minimum prices that he set for himself within the great offensive, namely , to take the city of the hero bakhmut and well, of course, they planned much bigger tasks there to take the entire territory of the donetsk region, and the fact that they drive there with missiles on washington of course, these are not their very promising plans . well, it so happened that before taking washington or london or paris and berlin, they now need to take the city of heroes bakhmut, because they practically choked their offensive actions in bakhmut they are now concentrating around how it seems to them a more realistic task to give the city an audio unit, but we also have sincere hopes and grounds for these hopes

to think that they will be able to take an audio unit from them . in the same way as it was possible to take a bayonet , that is, it will not be possible and, accordingly, what is standing now there are talks on the part of our western partners that we should do something quickly, immediately, because otherwise they will get tired to the extent that some of the western partners say they will get tired to the point that they will not be able to , then the war is not done that way and it is very good that our the commanders of the troops we they pay less attention to the emotional statements of politicians and are more concerned with military affairs , some experts say that if bakhmut was captured, it had an offensive logic, that is , it opened the way to slavic kramatorsk. for example, the attempt to capture avdiivka has something different the idea of ​​such a greater defense or something simply to move the armed

forces of ukraine away from donetsk because it is actually almost the outskirts of donetsk of the donetsk airport . do you share this opinion? well, how about everyone each territory, each bridgehead can be used both in the interests of defense and in the interests of the offensive, of course, the military first of all thinks about how to defend, how to then advance from there and inflict damage on the enemy, it is clear that some uh, some territories , some settlements are more convenient for one type of hostilities and others are more convenient for another type of hostilities, it is clear that avdiyivka is located in the immediate vicinity of donetsk, and of course it hangs over this regional center, it is not something that dazzles the eyes constantly keeps the russians awake and drives the russians into hysterics, they understand that donetsk can be reached from here and that it is actually quite easy