[000:00:00;00] related in particular to the russians, who still support this war en masse, recently there were shots of a journalist who could ask ordinary people on the street questions about the war in ukraine and there they all said that it was ukraine that attacked russia what is it because of what america gives weapons to ukraine, this war and so on and so on, and so on and so on. is ukraine not trying too hard to be like that? it is possible to benefit from e, for example, steps to meet that taiwan, which has the ability to help us with direct aid, or should we continue to play a cautious game here, where the world as a whole has already decided, and china seems to have decided

whose side it is on, and i would have time to speak well with russian we are fighting against the society constructed by putin with the help of propaganda and repression, we were part of the soviet people and ukraine within the ussr and i know this because i lived there i was almost the most reactionary part of this soviet people because the most repression was used against ukrainians and the holodomor here and the extermination of everyone who had any sympathy for their own nation and speak the ukrainian language because it was necessary to carefully look around and so on and hmm but ukraine

took a step in 1991 2004 was the second, and in 201 the third, i was the fourth in the 22nd and became a ukrainian nation respected by the whole world. we are at war with the er about the drugged er big significant population, but you are not at war with the people. and i started my answer to your first question by saying that there is no need to court china so much. china will not help us, and it will not stop the russian federation, and china will not think much about

there are ukrainian issues, there is no china, there is no china today. it is impossible for us, because we also have agriculture. now we sow little corn, so there is not much to sell . it does not matter whether or not it is important or important in this situation . i would say that it should be the case that there are only 24 of the population and the population - i would say a third believes that no less believes that it is necessary to reunite with china in some way. how we will communicate in the next month, they can’t even classify taiwan and china as yet, it’s difficult to predict, but to talk about the fact that we should focus on taiwan in international politics

. i’m sorry, i, uh, died. this is my profession, i know this area well, it would be reckless. at the same time no one says that it is not necessary to warn china against forceful actions against the taiwanese, this is a completely different matter, here we must be with the taiwanese population, who are considered to be chinese . we are in touch, and now let's talk about ukrainian children who are being deported en masse to russia by the russians , who are trying to reform them and turn them into russians pavlo lysyanskyi about the defense director of the institute of strategic studies and of security, please contact us, mr. pavlo, congratulations, the deportation of more than 16,000 children from ukraine has been confirmed on our airwaves, although we understand that the real numbers are much higher and god knows where those children are, because

the russians will bring them to a conference or immediately arranged in a family where their dates of birth and names are changed if there are children of a certain age where it is possible to sow new information into their heads this week probably shocked everyone. reforged of ukrainian children to russians and about what he had to go through so that other children had to go through it, maybe let's listen to him and continue our conversation, you always tell me that it wasn't normal, we ran together to buy normal food and you say that they killed some children, such as those who for ukraine well, there from the kherson region i felt for ukraine , and i well, how they were bought with a stick there, some iron

astakhov is responsible for security, but he himself is the king, that’s what we will send you to a boarding school, you will sit there and you will understand everything not behind my back there was a girl, daryna, with a bruise right there with such a stripe. someone said something like glory to ukraine. we were sitting in the hall there, someone shouted and sent to ukraine, and then someone answered glory to the heroes, and they took them away, but i don't know what actually happened to him about those children who dared to say glory to ukraine glory to the heroes and now it is not known what happened to them or whether it will be possible to at least find them and what the russians can do with them, the goal of the russians is first of all reframing the consciousness of the child, that is, the destruction of the ukrainian identity as

an understanding for that is, they want children to fully fulfill the ukrainian ukrainian perception of consciousness by children, this is the main thing for the russians, well, for the international criminal court, this is another confirmation that the deportation of children from the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine is not about the safety of children, which the russian federation is trying to tell, this is one of the stages of the act the genocide of the ukrainian people, they just started with children, that is, they want to ideologically, ideologically , send children against ukraine, against partner countries , that is, we. last week, we presented report on the ideological education of children in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine. we have even attached e-e methods through qr-codes by which children are taught, i.e. first there where

the historical reality of the distortion of this political processes of today is distorted, i.e. give what is happening. they are completely distorted and the child cannot understand that the historical processes of the past are also distorted , that is, and then under this where the heroization of the militants , where the children are brought there, they are brought there , they show it, here there is motorola givi militants, but they call them heroes for them, they died. you have to look up to them. here and then under this one, through the military , patriotic clubs there , the youth army, the knight, the warrior, etc. children deported from the temporarily occupied territories

of ukraine to say here in ukraine your enemies in the countries of the west of your enemies here are your weapons, children , kill them because that is the way to do it well that's it and so i very simply forgave what they they are trying to get it into their heads, this is exactly what they are not interested in as citizens of the russian federation, they are interested in them , as you know, in such zombies who in the future will take up weapons and go to kill, that is , for them, this is such a consumable, they are interested in destroying them children, but for their own benefit, for the benefit of the russian federation , because if these are destroyed for the russian federation, it is the destruction of the ukrainian identity. i understand that i will now say very harsh things that are difficult to understand, but

believe me, this is a fact, because i have been studying political processes for 9 years . well, what about the occupied territories and what are you talking about? first of all, mention the forced deportation of a child from a temporarily occupied territory, and this is a report. it was fully confirmed when journalists began to collect when will the information be confirmed, this boy who actually returned from russian captivity for children, he actually confirmed everything that is happening there , therefore the intentions of the russian federation are very simple , the destruction of the ukrainian people, and they started with deportation of children and ideological enumeration, in fact, reformatting of the child's consciousness in order to destroy the ukrainian identity, sir, the return of these children in particular is less than two dozen, but it is also difficult there , they were transported through some four borders and so on, but it shows that children can somehow be returned or it does not show that

there are at least 16,000 of them, and now there are 16,000 identified. well, more , well, even the russians are talking out loud about more numbers, and we know that they are more simple. well, we now we say that these are more than 16,000 identified children, and at one time when a ministry was created in ukraine in the 16th year, the ministry of internally displaced persons, because after the first stage of the urban aggression of the russian federation , a lot of displaced persons appeared to this day i am sure that it is also necessary to create in ukraine a ministry of repatriation or a state service on the topic of patriation, some executive body that will professionally take care of this issue, because

it is good when we usually have 20 children there we are returning something else, but this is a systemic problem and the problem there is not only the children, and everyone is in the rehabilitation of these children, but also in the identification, in the identification of the places where the children were deported, how many more children are there , where are such cities, the identification of the people who were involved in the deportation of these children, this the entire range of these issues should be taken care of by the state institution in ukraine, well , it should be the same. yes, that is, if somewhere crime in a region goes off the scale , additional subdivisions are created there. the ministry of internal affairs, for example, yes or something else. and if we have a problem now. well, the occupier is deporting our children by order of the dictatorial regime, then we must respond to this and create an appropriate institution so that this institution consolidates all human rights defenders and

public figures above so that they uh, they were involved in the processes of returning those who were deported, yes, well, i see it, yes, i do not know how, well, it is still possible to return these children, why am i saying now, because there is a lot of information on the surface, well every year there is more and more information and more and more of those children were deported in 2022. let's say in 2025. you can't even find it, you can change personal data and surnames and names . lvova belova, who again is herself. she adopted a boy whose

birth date was also changed there , because she is always confused about how old he is. russian propagandists e-e told about a special group of mariupol children e-e that's what she calls them, i'd just like to ask you to watch this video, then i'd like to hear your comment такая группа детей котюра высокой самый большое комментарии продукции ето mariupolskoy gruppa 31 children whom our military gathered in the basement who did not have a legal representative at that time , who were refused by the adoptive parents, who left yes from this group, just my adopted child when the children turned out to be in loving families we broke all the international conventions that are only possible, but at the moment, what happened to 380 children in

the 19th regions of our country, families, and these are the people who have been in social institutions for a long time. i have already said that none of them the parents were divorced this time, and the second time, if we understand that there will be legal representatives, we will immediately do everything in order to separate these seven, and the children themselves expressed their desire that they want to go to the family and they want to continue to stay in the territories and россии and what is the age of these children, and the age was actually different . there were brothers and sisters. there were several family groups . we had ... children, then in principle there will be a readiness to return them, of course, it sounds cynical that the russian military gathered some of those children who were not in any special institutions, those who obviously had few relatives, gathered them in basements, that is, first these

russian military came and bombed mariupol deprived these children of their natural parents and then you see them gathered and made them a wonderful wonderful life and found them new parents in russia, but will it really be possible to find representatives of these children and will it be possible to prove that all the children are from ukraine or from she is actually ready to return these children after she became a participant in the case of the hague court, you are right . i remembered my analysts reported in two or three days when the warrant was issued. i don't know when this video was released. well you can i'm sure there are data. well, i didn't know, for example, and my analysts didn't know that a warrant would be issued to putin. yes, we submitted all our reports to the international criminal court - that's correct, that is, we

didn't know, and they told me in about three days they say, you know something, well, we can't understand. i say what it is , and they say the words of bilous. the temporarily occupied territory was contacted by communications, there were no teams and they say that there were teams until the changes in terminology that the children are simply there from shelling, they are safe that they are not going to be returned anywhere and put this process on pause, that was it literally in three days that's why she says so specifically in order to uh avoid responsibility first and secondly they won't they are not going to return them you don't need to believe i

'll tell you now the information as of yesterday uh with about what they will do next, the russians have now simplified the procedure for issuing russian passports even more, but in addition , they have simplified the procedure for refusing ukrainian citizenship by the community of local residents in temporary full territories , including children, this is nonsense, such a thing cannot happen, no matter which country dictate by its own laws , how should people in another country refuse or acquire another citizenship there is a law of the national legislation of ukraine, but it is an occupier, it is a realist regime, it is not the state, that's right, they predicted that now well, the team has already left, you already checked there already, for example, if children are studying at school and the school writes statements on their behalf that they

are renouncing ukrainian citizenship and are now in the temporarily occupied territory in order to obtain russian citizenship federations need to first give up ukrainian and that is why they are now implementing it among children, i emphasize up to the age of 14, they are now implementing this process in order to say that these children have given up from ukrainian citizenship and that's why we shouldn't return them. this is what they're going to do . you can't even reach this cupalta . pavlo thank you pavlo lysyansky about the defender, the director of the institute of strategic studies and security, with whom we talked about whether it will really be possible to return ukrainian children whom russia is trying to take to russia and re-flash them

into russian, and now let's talk a little about ukrainian cinema, which is also about ukrainian cartoons that achieve incredible success. and before that, a small announcement of medvedev , whom we have already mentioned so much today, who is hiccuping, he said , he called on his fellow citizens to download pirated movies, so that all kinds of people went bankrupt because the russians do not have access to netflix due to sanctions. now i can't imagine any western politician who would call on citizens to steal other people's property, just take it and steal it. why is it normal to say that it's just that the sarmatian who travels on the rusty volga has not yet reached the pu- medvedev has decided for the time being that the stronger blow will be to steal companies from netflix . to be honest, you know, they say that ukraine is some kind of anti-russia, but in

reality russia is gradually becoming some kind of anti-ukraine is some kind of yakimos farce, farce force imitation of ukraine, here we are conventionally speaking, you know, the comic became the president, and in them the president gradually turns into a real clown, at which the whole world laughs, eh, i wonder if the russians will follow suit from netflix, the ukrainian tv series "catch the kid" or the ukrainian tv series, and there will be people who will be on this platform, eh, about this, too, about the animated series mavka, which breaks all records, has become the highest-grossing in the history of ukraine polina tolmachova, marketing director of film.ua group we are in touch with you, we congratulate you, i congratulate you, but i have to correct you mavka is not a tv series mavka full full meter emotional material cartoon cartoon

well, it's already about five hours of work in the wind, anything can happen, er, ms. polina do you think the russians will download ukrainian movies and ukrainian cartoons from all kinds of pirate sites, as medvedev calls for it? i just heard from you about his call to steal. to be honest, i'm not interested . they won't be. i don't know. with them do you know what kind of audience is on our product and we have not considered for a long time whether they will steal, well, they steal everything, it is possible and they will steal it just in case i don't know i don't know well i can't say anything ukrainian cartoon which breaks all the records in the history of ukraine with - in particular, the russians would like it if

they make fun of them a little oh, i'm already such a very unexpected question for me, but i think that no, they won't like it 100%. because there is nothing russian there, you understand. and this is very, very strange for them, they are very focused on themselves, and where there is no russian hero, you know such a hero is a positive one . they don’t like it, that’s why we talk about them even when we started the mavka and didn't think we thought about our audience about global audience well, the russian audience is very different from the global one, it’s true. do you think that ukrainian tv series can be interesting, in general, the product on netflix is ​​different, e.e., with viewers, in principle , a global service like netlux.

netflix has been putting up for a long time because i don't like this whole story with piracy, well with medvedev's russians . it seems that you can afford it, and i mean a monthly subscription to netflix, and i want to say that well, for example, i have something that i i am looking for some norwegian films or tv series specifically, for example, or i am specifically looking for the same danish films or tv series or something like that . you know that the same thing can happen with a ukrainian product. i absolutely believe that it can happen with a ukrainian product. and this it's already happening because even two years ago we couldn't imagine that such serials would appear in neneskiv , and where is nertvyts

? on this very global resources in the countries of eastern europe, romania, the czech republic, and this is a very , very big sign for us. but, as i already told you about mavka, we are targeting a global audience, and the entire ukrainian film industry works on a global audience, and this realistically including but you know you can’t take it like that to be in the top of netflix or hbo or that or anywhere it ’s a very long big process that has been going on for a long time uh and which continues now despite him here uh and now you know the successes of ukrainian cinema they more visible, but i want to emphasize that

all this is happening not thanks to the war, but contrary to it, in order for us to become visible in the world, we have all been working hard for a very long time, and the war really broke many of our plans, but even in spite of such circumstances, despite full-scale acting, we still managed to get our audience and increase it, even increase it and attract the attention of the viewer, and this is a very encouraging sign , an encouraging summary of the year 2022, you see , it took a long time, but it was done well, and eh, but it goes, it goes, uh, one way or another, that’s all one thing is connected with some original literary source and with the forest fairy tale. yes, of course, lesi ukrainka, and accordingly this means that, in principle, all those literary sources are not yet finished

. there is a lot of interesting cultural stuff in this treasure trove that we have to understand ourselves. and also show it to the world. mavka is such an example of effective cultural diplomacy because it has already been sold to more than 80 countries of the world and on march 29, for example, the rental begins in france. well, not only in france, but also in the netherlands, in belgium. but i want to make such a focus in france, because france is a well-known cinematographic country and we will have 500 screens, that is a lot of numbers. we are very worried and hope that the rental

global big box office where the french are dubbing our cartoon in french dubbing dubbing songs a very big powerful advertising campaign it will be successful and it will be true export of ukrainian culture to the world what we all dreamed of and what we are working for and what we are with lived all this in the 22nd year, what will the world learn from the mavka cartoon about ukrainians? i think that he will learn, first of all, that we are creative people who know how to tell stories , this is very important. this is exactly right here the second world will get confirmation once again because ukrainians are very brave

everyone already knows this about us mavka - it is also about our courage third i think they will learn a little more about the source of our strength about the ukrainian national nature about our our our abilities to gather as a group in order to protect our world er and demonstrate some er extraordinary powers and capabilities er maybe the world also knows a little more about our mythology about the magical side of ukraine it is very big immeasurable we in this very connected with nature and the earth, this is our strength . i think the world will also think a little about this. well, of course , the world will learn once again about the power of the incredible strength of ukrainian women, because mavka is, first of all

, a very strong female character mavka the producers of mavka are, uh, among the producers of mavka, there are two wonderful, very strong, bright women. i think that mavka will tell the world about us, but you know what i want to say . what is mavka? well, this is not propaganda and it is not a propaganda tool, it is first of all cartoon and what is a cartoon? it is something that people go to as a family to spend their free time, and i hope that the world will learn about us, that you can do business with us , including or including spending free time with families. is also very important because movie series are primarily about leisure time about free time about stories that we have to tell on them only interesting so that they