[000:00:00;00] or how american presidents are guarded and you see the doctor of the world and saw washington and the cortege when the president was clinton and i watched all this both in the white house and outside and definitely as again the question of how they generally how they work there it seems that we can much less than in some precinct of ours, with these guards, they cannot drive there for more than one and a half minutes, this is closed traffic in washington, when the president is going , he can be detained for one and a half minutes, then the traffic continues for us there is no such thing you already have a counter-argument, and you will now understand all this respect for people, er, citizens , those who are in uniform, that is, there is no pro-prosiv federation, and uniforms on the civilian population in ukraine

. well, there is almost no such thing in europe. even well, not a proverb, but such a legend that if in germany, uh, they announce a german citizen there, that on such and such a day at such and such a time, you must open the age in your apartment there. yes, and such a legend what what will not be asked because if it is a state then there is probably a great need for arguments, and that is, there is trust both from the top down from the government to its people and from below to the mountain .

then when they called the communist polish people's republic, there are some other things about uh, that means how the germans love the law and they knew that these communists were going to the station with flags and not only with flags with weapons now they will seize power in short what to do and you know what did they do to the germans? official germans, they wrote that the station is not working, everyone came, the law-abiding driver was taken out, well, the station is not working, they sat down, they are going back, they could not imagine that they were being fooled, because if the authorities said that they are not working, there is a reason , something broke, there is no electricity, there is no coal, in short yes, this is the story okay, ivan stupak, military expert, staff of the assembly, we were talking today not about the war , about

the security service. to ask about the war because this request of the ministry of defense somehow jumped out at me, and during a war, who should be listened to, the ministry of defense and the general staff - these are people who know exactly what they are saying and know - and this is what they say to put under themselves has some underpinning background, and it is not simple, there is something that can be neglected, and there is something that cannot be neglected at all, let's talk about china. we haven't talked for a long time, and yesterday we didn't talk the day before yesterday, and three days ago, and four , and so on. we wish you good health, mr. mykhailo, i hope you will see us, and we will see you. so, look, mr. mykhailo, i would like to ask you , let's start . today, it's snowing on my head

. just now we spoke with mr. ivan, now with mr. mykhailo this is complete absurdity, there is some logic behind it when putin suddenly started talking during a meeting about the transition to the yuan in trade and, as i understood, he was not just talking about the transition to the yuan in trade with china a if encouraged all the calls. let's make the yuan an international currency, but there can't be an international currency. there are so many restrictions . there are so many problems. we know that the exchange rate of even the yuan is affected by the pre-election of the central committee of the communist party of china . there is no such free approach. we know that exchange rates change like want, we know the criticism from the united states and from the europeans. in other words, i, as a non-economist

, can say that. let 's talk instead of such fluff. here, there will be such ones. we had them with american presidents. and now there will be but this is world trade. that is, it’s just that putin is a complete idiot in finance. whether or not i’m wrong , but not full , but obviously they are half full. certain operations that even the countries of the near east conduct, in particular , the arab gulf in yuan, but here are just two points, one must be distinguished, and someone suggested to putin that he said, "let's go" well, there is such a process if there will be some kind of payment system for some kind of peace that the russians well, in principle, they have successfully failed and continue to fail as an alternative to what world, and the yuan system is somehow built on the calculations of the yuan, from which

it will be possible to circumvent sanctions, this is supposedly such a plan, but on the other hand, it is the africanization of russia , so that is, it is a summary russia to one of the small, not even geopolitical, but simply appendages of china, and that is why it looked really very funny, although china tried to do such things at one time, but to some alternative payment system, it it has not yet arrived, but this is an attempt to integrate this axis of iran, china, venezuela even more strongly . maybe there, well, the north korean comedian is unlikely to reach there, but here is to create and show such an alternative, they say meta.ua no, let's agree once again to everyone intimately that, in principle , the entire meeting and since the media covered it and it was done, that is, the hour specifically russia, china , here it is even russian, some such

chauvinistic er settings z patriots just spat in their public what, well , what is this? you and the majority of ukrainians should probably be happy about the africanization of russia, i.e. welcome the transition to the yuan let russia be settled in yen let russia have no dollars, no euros , no swiss francs, no japanese yen and that's fine let them trade there with eritrea by the way, you forgot about the axis axis of evil, there is a powerful economy there called eritrea with a-a where it is also possible to introduce ua, do we need the council to be happy about this or not eh and rejoice and no because in fact if we look at eh the trade relations of the countries of the west with russia well in some parameters, they have fallen so much. and where have they grown and the africanization

of russia in geopolitical terms is taking place, but economically, the russian economy is still being saved, that is, probably a question for specific experts in economics but not everything is as bad there as it seems, they still have a reserve, that is they can still do a lot, a lot of things , they are far from falling to the bottom. so , they fulfill their function as a state, in essence, a large gas station . inflated, including ours, and we were told about how there was even such a thing once upon a time , do you remember the accordion saying that if ukraine joins nato, they will meet russian soldiers there, because really russia cooperated better with nato than ukraine on this number of programs and and still some issues are cooperating, i.e. russia. yes, on the one hand, this is northern nigeria in terms of possibly some social guarantees for part of the population, and for another part, after all, these relations

with china, which well, it is still too early to talk about any there are conclusions, but no, no it all went as they wanted, about ukraine, well, there are enough of them, yes, they have enough of blood to drink, unfortunately, look, mr. mykhailo , but now this one is like that, and the fund is rubbish. the spanish leader and the french leader. otsisizinpinnya what does he think about the peace plan? in short, they are going, as if they are all going to beijing in one way or another. and this is just interesting to me. i am absolutely convinced that they will not convince the official beijing to leave russia, but i am also convinced that vivi- they will not abandon him and putin will not rush or hug bikini beijing as if

he were an observer aside from all the processes. yes , and he, i think, will remain one way or another . what or how can this be explained well, there is also the french delegation , i will say yes yes and why is that the key to the answer, he is not only hiding in ukraine, he is also hiding in africa, because in africa there is a very strong redistribution of the sickle of influence and there are good examples of e- e formal and of informal agreements between china and the european union, specifically france, because in terms of the african vector of pumping, let's be honest, the pumping of resources from there to france has always been the first state of the post-colonial and post-covenant and here they have a good interest with china, and maybe china in a certain to a certain extent

, russia can be replaced there in africa, that is, china will be offered let's go to africa and engage in our programs there, than you will cooperate more closely with the russians, and in this, china comes out as such as a winner look, everyone went as russia accepted him there, and here and the european union, even he does not go to it, what kind of people go there, well, only america is there, of course, america, they say, you see that china and russia, to a certain extent , want to be number two in the world, eh - the russians are just crawling out of their skin to be , well, america and we and china want the same . hand to ukraine because they won't agree there the second place among them is china, russia - that's for sure, and this visit once again shows that it's obvious that china's economic interest is somewhat higher than the political one. well, i think you're even higher . and i have a lot of questions for you. i don't think that in

ukraine since everyone is busy with wars in our country, there is no doubt about the war. but maybe someone will like it, or just a person does not know what such information is, if you have followed what happened there in the central african republic, where nine chinese people died and there is a strong suspicion that they were killed chvk wagner, who is also there is posted, well, at least there were such rumors and there was just a huge scandal there, without a doubt, bakhmut with the avdiivka, that’s why we don’t look there , if you followed, tell me, and if not , this is absolutely what i’m talking about, it’s about the distribution of spheres of influence, in particular, there are also diamond mines and there are many more there are different types of minerals that are simply pumped out due to the exploitation of the labor of those africans, and now it is about the fact that even chvk wagner saw how they have it, or

vc, read russia, or rather the fsb, because well, there are not unreasonable opinions to believe that in fact this the formation that created the fsb separately, so they are losing positions in africa, that is why they are reacting so aggressively and starting to create problems there that they say china must negotiate with us , china together with the europeans behind their heads behind their backs will not solve anything, and likewise this attack of iranian drones on american military bases are also not for nothing, they are starting to create problems there, say, well, look, it might be there, too, so you give it to them somehow, this ukraine means something to them, say well, it’s them, right? they want to solve these issues, and they still have a great economic interest there, because even now, according to some such insiders from the same russian public, they are even open to the reorientation of part of the forces of this central military commission to africa, that is, they will move someone there. it is true that we

falsely to sudan to the central african republic in order to strengthen its forces there. but in the past , russia was very good. putin and macron cooperated in this regard, and the european union, nato, turned a blind eye to seichev's wagner, that they were there works well in lilies maybe where it was first noted now, well, it probably won’t be like that anymore, but then russia takes a big risk well, there is no need to annoy china as far as i can imagine i know that the president of this central african republic immediately flew to beijing to apologize that your people were killed here and we here you are to blame, you are not abandoning us, we love you ladies and gentlemen, chinese, last question and if possible a short answer, i do not guarantee that the question will be short, can we imagine some changes in chinese foreign policy

after all, this is the same policy that was in place for a year. well, there is no doubt that they are already interested in ukraine, but china, in my opinion, has always tried to be an eastern state , to wait for the corpse of the enemy to float down the river , and i will. i will wait a little and they will not be ahead of me . the father will not go anywhere in hell, will it be so or will he take a more active position somewhere, uh, they will have exactly as much power as they win back, as much as they and how much they will allow, if uh, now we see these positions that china voices they this peace treaty is also feeling good there between well, it is not a minefield, new agreements between saudi arabia and early even china there as a peacemaker distinguished themselves somewhere, if you read their press, they are pr people there, they think that there will be no significant conflict, that is, they will not turn into russia and in the same way, they are not turning into the united states, but yes, at the strategic level, but at the tactical level , maybe we will see some

surprises from them, in particular in africa, because they must give some kind of answer for ukraine as well, who maybe he knows this rare plan for peace in ukraine, he can buy some new flights in accordance with the situation that is changing, because there are already such broad loopholes laid in it, where you can stuff anything you want . thank you very much mykhailo yakubovych how we should look at china and i think it is really interesting. but i repeat once again that i am among the skeptics regarding the fact that china can turn into some kind of super power. i still believe that china is both technologically and financially economically and as you like, is not a superpower, moreover, i see that australia and india

and korea and japan, led by the united states , are strengthening their capabilities there. it is definitely not good for ukraine if the world turns around and looks at the seas that surround china should look at the straits, which actually accumulate half of the world trade through these straits, where i want to control china, and not just the 7th american fleet is there, and if people take everyone there to look, they will look less at ukraine. and this is definitely not for ukrainians i will like it, but for now it can definitely be said that china does not pay much attention to ukraine, does not pay much attention to russia . i can repeat once again that china is doing the same as europe and

america. and the main team there or something else left russia, the chinese are very quiet without shouting, but quite a lot of chinese people are leaving, the film is ending their relations , now there is no america, we have jason, yes, and here i am switching to the russian language, although i know there are people who carefully watch what i say with a stopwatch and that if i speak russian with a georgian, they write it down for me, but nothing.

your comments hello, please tell me some chance , not from the point of view of the white house, but from the point of view of the demand for objectivity , the so-called peace plan, sitting and drinking , chit-jin-ping, how to score in the american way the chinese leader has a chance of success, and the americans are watching attentively or smiling when they are looking at this plan at these ideas of beijing well, i think that there are several important points here . i really don’t think that you are this vanya , what will happen next in this taiwan and take a very good one

? they sells it done to remove the request but further if you are a real panel no, i would say that and this is serious . it will be the name of china and the name of turkey. well, how is it strange, which we will say, and the heavens, that is, the sky will be sacred, europe , well, the term, which is considered a little bit not even as good as china, and that you were in the negotiations, well, that’s enough food, we did not believe that китая а продает то есть это обмение фразом общие где, но что кай мир, как для этот, это, это не обяснылось, see another question, я это очень странный вопрос what do i turn to the americans a-a in order to understand chinese politics and what what a-a

maybe your newspaper experts think about it that it is so sweet in taiwan for china, but they live there themselves , they have their own life is the history of china, and the government of the year ran there, etc. -th year faster faster what is there? why is it just such an ideology , or is there any other thoughts among the chinese? often in етом сейчас китая ето не когда не буде and well, why is this ivano, and i think that this is the same thing . how are the russians? on the other

hand, that is the time of the bill, the time of the bill history and i do not deny that accept reality is that it will never be my own well, of course, after hong kong, it probably scared the taiwanese authorities very much . everyone knows what is happening in hong kong , everyone knows that there is no freedom there for a long time. here in kyiv, they are discussing very much that the american establishment says that it is still important for us that it is a struggle or competition or competition with china, it is about russia - this is what a temporary enemy - this is not a weak enemy, but we will not think about it. well, we think because of ukraine, we must help democracy . but this is secondary to us. and here is china

. yes, it is serious. well, indeed, that’s the general opinion, and you still think that china is more american. what about china? competitors are not - they are about russia well, of course, that is, china is a serious country, it is not like russia , and china is modest, it is a blow to us, which is colloquial, and the money is growing , the numbers are pulling for you, but two-pointed, this time was once a covid, well, after this, everything turns on , it is russia - this is not a country hits and what do you want to do, not three times, the first hour, and i don’t remember how many 300,000 people, how short, who are you, your russians die later than they give birth, which means that it ’s not long, russia can’t uh, well, let’s say to continue if there aren’t many who have changed from this country, and i don't see any signs that russia wants to change itself, but to change itself. i believe that russia just wants to continue

as it is now working, that is, those who are in power, for example, those in power against there want to steal money and he wants to earn money from of the people, i think that this is 1 of us, we have all the bricks, and i am interested in doing something that will be good or useful for russia, or this country is dying, and china, and vice versa, it is clear that they are planning their future in a dark way, and they have concrete, serious sales. and poop weapons and i see that you are really giving troitsa jason now let's imagine that russia has lost the war and after the war some legal, diplomatic , economic negotiations will always be held, it will not go anywhere, america will be in them

to participate, or america will still be maturely focused on the pacific eh area will think about china will think about japan will think about how to establish relations with australia recently there were such contacts japan will be the place where america will look and europe and especially eastern ones can be europe - it will not be particularly interesting, well, there will be some interest, but only a small one. or even after the military history, america will be involved in what to do with russia, for example, it is important why i ask the question because you know the history of the last 70 years says that not everyone will like it in russia, not everyone will like it, even in ukraine, not everything is called until the americans put in their hand or foot or head, no question

will be solved, the german americans still invest, he works in

europe well, i think that this is the case and what will happen next this is a very relevant request, and i see all the signs that there will be a huge withdrawal from the usa and also from europe, which is a pass-through of asia , which shows that china wants our competitors , and ten jobs are our future competitor , which is nauseating for very serious content jason, watch and this means, well, my head tells me that the american state will become american functions. that is, these intellectual centers should now think about how to create a world without putin, not only in russia, so that there would be no putin, so that there would be no such thing. yes, after all, it is possible to meet in competition with

china when you have it in your backyard . there was a dream in gaddafi, there was no putin, especially putin, because when you were, there was no atomic bomb, so putin has it, so are there any thoughts about the need to somehow open up russia and make it so that it will not be a factor of instability the factor of aggression in the world, well, he is, and what a nice concert to eat. i think that everything is normal , because in fact there are some of the most serious problems in the world today. yes cool how easy it is that russia and russia will pay extra for all these

countries , and why are they together? they sell them in 200 years and you have known for a long time and from this i think that even when we talk about these countries, it is better to think of countries in any way, but it is better like the mafia and not different mafias, that is , putin’s mafia is the iranian mafia, but in this is the case that if there will be peace without putin, that is, if suddenly he will die tomorrow and someday he will be well of course it’s good, well then it will be normal now because all these are ex-mafia i’m doing problems on mitsubionost everywhere and in africa and in south america and in europe and you now hey, we can see what’s going on in ukraine now and so you are trying to fight this mafia so that all countries can live

with it, ah, calm down. well, so far, the mafia has not been defeated anywhere. jason, she may have become less, but she is still the same if in italy, in america. introduce yourself to what the world will be without these terrible tyrants, these terrible dictators, who are in all the countries you have listed, i will say thank you, jason jay smart, an american political technologist and political consultant, was with us on this broadcast, as always, i am interested in such voluminous quick answers, which i love it very much. what else do i love? i like to take such a small but such a strong ten-minute break and during this break, i would like to personally serve the news of espresso tv . you, i will at least listen to it and then i will definitely get back to you, thank you mr. mykola, so literally in a moment about all the news