[000:00:00;00] it is definitely necessary to set certain standards, and if you look at the practice of citizenship today, there are countries that profess the isolationist concept. well , the first of these countries i would call the united states of america, that is, the acquisition, loss and acquisition of citizenship, the procedure there is as soon as it came to light somewhere. what are you doing? you have something there somewhere, but you instantly lose your citizenship in ukraine, the approach is completely different, and ukraine actually, if you do not look at the facts of the violation of the constitution of ukraine by the ukrainian presidents, deprive the ukrainian it is impossible to acquire citizenship for a person. i will also say that it is quite difficult. if you compare it with other states, moreover, as it is written in the ukrainian constitution, those who worked on it in ukraine cannot have

dual citizenship. you always know the norm, when you write it, it looks like this, and then she, like a living person, begins to live her life. i am now hearing a discussion about the fact that the only citizenship mentioned in the ukrainian constitution means that it cannot be the citizenship of the region or is it just one passport, well, you understand, but i remember very well the discussion when the constitution was being written that a citizen can only have ukrainian citizenship, no more today, but not today, it is interpreted in such a way that in ukraine there can be dual citizenship there, and this is theater, well, these are simply consequences of certain information waves that form what we are talking about is morality and value . and as for these people, well, first of all, when did our state live in a ukrainian or not

a baltic or caucasian mind when it and who are the russians there so that they rule that country? and you know very well this stalinist position that the greatest patriots are an illusion, as he said, well, now we have those who are sold there for pennies, they serve themselves before the führer of moscow, so what are we going to take there is shevchenko valentyn or anyone else there? well, that's the question, this is matvienko, it's all clear, but it's such a thing , it's the sbu, it's to the sbu, it's to the sbu. let them deal with them there , the last question. ago that when i listen to the belarusian opposition, well, somehow they are not structural, they have some kind of like this, like we were in the 90s, romanticism, we will do this, they will retreat like this, everything will be

fine and dandy and there are no specifics, we can imagine some specifics in belarus there are some intellectual forces there that can push the nation to achieve real independence, or do they always take sides with russia? well, if the brothers are people, then i can call such people statkevich and radina, and well, that is, there are bondarenko and sannikov i.e., this iconostasis can be gained there starting from the belarusian national democrats, because what worries me a little the most is that over time, the idea of ​​national democratic forces, those who have always been the wind of the struggle for ukrainian independence in belarus, and the

same poznyakah, is pushed away from and the young generation is growing up on these petro-hydrogen russian dollars, and it has a little wind in its head, and it seems to be directed in the other direction. well, i don’t want to use the word fashionable, modern. if they think of world citizenship, they don’t understand that they can happen only as belarusians and this is their problem, but in fact what is missing there is an organized beginning, there is no importance there inside or outside , but this organized beginning must be and for this, for this, we need to think in terms of the categories of the elite, oh no, i am asking in front of them, but they are also from the point of view of thinking. they are too small. i do not want to use a more precise word. they are too small. the lack of this scale leads to these endless internal

troubles. well, you and i saw this in the 90s in ukraine yes, it's true. please excuse me, the program continues. i only want one thing to publicly praise roman bezsmertny. i was on a program just before our channel, and suddenly i heard that roman bezsmertny lived by the name of general triadafilov. before that, i was convinced that the only person - i am the one who knows who the generator is. oh, defilov, and i pray to god that no russian general knows about this. maybe he heard it somewhere , but he acts completely in the opposite direction , as it were, and it is nice. well, if if anyone is interested in this, please read general andrian defilova, who tells how to fight and why the russian army is not fighting now. thanks to the novel, the immortal

politician, the diplomat of services in belarus, the author of the law on citizenship, and we are moving on to electricity, electricity, well, energy, you know how this is the second law of thermodynamics, if do not add energy to any system, it dies oleksiy kucherenko people's deputy of ukraine first deputy chairman of the committee on energy and housing and communal services of the verkhovna rada of ukraine good health, sir oleksiy, it's very nice to see you. thank you, they found something for us. honestly, it's good. i'm very glad to see them. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. i drink the question, both difficult and simple. we talked about it with you in october and in november and in december, and we were very afraid whether we would survive the winter.

will we not survive? how will it be? what about energy ? what about gas ? who to contact so that it can be resolved and so on and so on. thank you for your question, mykola, before i answer your question, it was logical on the way when you said we survived . i threw my head at his flowers for the time being, because the logical question would be and at what price ? yes, at the same time, these are not just destroyed objects, you understand that the factor of missile strikes is definitely this. this is a test of the technical condition , yes, where are these really destroyed stations substations, bbk equipment, that's all, but today we have a somewhat different situation

, because you can see that the missile strikes did not achieve the strategic goal, and this is a failure of putin's strategy, as well as the military one, as well as the energy one, so it happened that we have sufficient reliable anti-aircraft defense, we have anti-aircraft defense and the energy industry have learned to deal with it and eliminate it, and in principle i see that today there is a new one, in essence, he is disappointed in the effectiveness, there are no very large costs, so it harms us, but it is not it's catastrophic right now, as far as i'm concerned, and our committee has become very active now. we talked about it at a meeting literally yesterday with the minister and the heads of all companies. the key issue is that huge financial problems have arisen in this segment . debts, mr. mykola. because coal

costs something, gas costs something, energy companies have to pay, it can't be free, and now there are very alarming symptoms, well, let's say, according to statistics, according to the figures of naftogaz naftogaz of the new of the head well, god forbid p chernyshov uah 80 billion teplokomunenergo's debt to naftogaz is a colossal amount of such a large amount that today undermines the liquidity of naftogaz itself, well, excuse me for such wise words, well, of course, he has an extremely bad financial situation, it is thanks to the previous managers who are very big there, but today he technical default. and he needs to purchase gas for the next heating season, a very important question. i 'm sorry, just in line with your thoughts.

a financier is not an energy engineer, but all the same, i sit and think that people don’t have that much money , there is a war, and the state has options to raise tariffs in some way. if you raise the tariff, people won’t pay, it doesn’t mean that somewhere people have hidden extra $2,000 uah and they will bring them immediately, which means that it makes no sense for the state to raise it, because well, someone will bring, someone will not bring, and leaving it as it is with enemies and with defaults is also impossible , because then the next winter will be worse than absolutely well, i do not envy the essence of the matter, honestly i say we are together with the government, despite the fact that we are normally from the opposition faction , but you understand, i consider myself a professional professional person and we are looking for

this way out and the government. well, first of all , for the price of electricity, they are considering four different options, but the increase in the electricity tariff, by the way. there is no electricity for water, and it is currently being considered in two stages to raise it by 30% - this is the national commission. at the request of the mayors and vodok , as a city official, you understand that the decision has not been made yet , they are hesitant, but it is somewhere in the stage, literally from the first of april, it can be considered for electricity various options, as far as i understand, this is actually a decision made, but they will look for it so that, conditionally speaking, it will be raised for the wealthy, i am

so very, very, well, this is interpreted freely by the poppy and minimally so that it affects the small provided, how will they do it? i roughly imagine, depending on the amount of consumption of ukrainians , those who consume a lot will divide the conditionally those who consume a lot will become conditionally wealthy and they can quite realistically actually raise the migration rate by a certain amount those who do not consume very much will be conditionally not wealthy and we will try not to touch them, see what else i would ask, literally, these are, sorry, sorry, an important point, but you say 30%, raise something there, i’m picky, yes , the tariffs in ukraine may increase by 50

80 dashes of percent i can't understand in the whole world people have some kind of perspective thinking they understand that there will be problems and that means let's go today at 10 tomorrow at 8 the day after tomorrow at four the day after tomorrow at two and so gradually in a year two we will have there at 20 %. and in our country? well, what am i in europe? if we constantly think about europe, the whole of poland and one and a half of france would come out . the germans don't just gradually tell themselves tomorrow that's why. and now it's 30%, and it's 60%, you can't imagine why they can't cook talk to society go out speak listen we have a problem who will suggest a better way out than raising tariffs come to the cabinet of ministers we will consult and leave but no one is doing it unpopular you understand

it's hard for me because it's the same again the easiest thing for me was now to shout that you are all idiots there is no need to do anything. in no case, and so on and so on, well , unfortunately for the last eight years and not only and before that, it and you are talking already in the post-maidan period, well, in fact, the main reason is that under the slogans of these reforms, real reforms did not take place, you understand that in reality there was more talk about these reforms, first of all, in naftogaz naftogaz, you understand and here, in my opinion, the key for the population for the gas tariff for heat , water tariffs should be analyzed, and where did the funds go have collected for the last six crabs from the increased tariff, you understand that from the 14th year the water tariff will increase

7-8 times if they raise it, you understand 7-8 times from the fourteenth year and i ask a question please show me if your theft has decreased crazy expenses 40% of water there. or the share of electricity has decreased. where did you optimize all your processes? i tell you no for sure, but at this time i am starting to cry , including, unfortunately, the mayors that kucherenka is a conservative, he wants to lose our water canal, so i am appealing to you to the people of lviv , to the people of zhytomyr, to the people of kyiv, nothing does not prevent us and you at the local level to completely turn this water tariff inside out and in the cities to understand whether it is justified or not and they are stealing from it. that's what you understand, what needs to be done. there are specialists in

every city. high mayors open completely all your secrets, so to speak, because there are many secrets on the water, just like on the rig, but people must be convinced that this is an honest , transparent, fair tariff , then there will be a different conversation. with other energy scams, with coal, after all, something else , sorry, it’s really difficult to talk about and convince that these are really honest and fair tariffs, the ones they demand in this regard . the government, as always, loses this fight, you understand and it will be difficult for people to explain it here, i agree with you and this can cause it because she did not do her work for 3.5 years after the predecessor , it is not me anymore, the predecessor needs 3.5 years

, almost these lessons, almost four, this new team has done something stupid in energy including in the communal sector as well . of energy and housing and communal services of the verkhovna rada of ukraine oleksiy kucherenko was visiting with us, i will just add for 40 seconds literally that all ukrainians pay every month every year every five years and when we start thinking where does this money go that we simply don't know about it there, relatively speaking, a certain amount of money has to repair the entrance there once every 3 years, whose entrance has been repaired in the last 5 years - i would ask, and i think that there are not many such people, and so on. and yes

continue and so on and so on that's why i think there is a lot of theft and now to the balkans we will now get to the balkans why there is a very small country called montenegro which is known to ukrainians primarily because they go there to rest and if it weren't for the war i would go there too rest, but now the war and now it is us with russia and now we have to understand and russia just pulls its claws its hands to serbia to montenegro and so on and so on to the balkans and there were elections now the second round of elections in montenegro on the one hand it is very small country but if in addition to serbia, another outpost of the russian federation will appear there, although this is good news, well, it is not far off, but for those who do not know, montenegro is still a member of the north atlantic alliance, nato

. it has not yet joined the european union. it calms me down a little, but she knows better than me. natalia ishchenko, the project manager , the balkan reviewer, if she appears and i see her, natalochka , i am just a long-time acquaintance. i sympathize and i don't know what to say in such cases, but when we meet, we'll drink a glass and remember everything. but why did you write the groin or we, you wrote that the option of victory, or rather, going to the second round in montenegro, such a completely pro-russian one is serious enough there is such an option, but now he has lost and in the second round he is so doubtful and the second doubtful but not so pro-russian or am i wrong somewhere natali

ishchenko, you are right, in fact it is . it's about montenegrin and the second one is pro-russian, so in fact, in the second round, such people came out. yes, about montenegrin, but not pro-russian came out together with him. and about the serbian candidate who disguises himself as if he is pro-european, this is how we have a game in the second round . but i can say that this schedule will fire moscow the capital of montenegro, this confrontation remains west-east, because here is this new face right on the screen, and he already supported this pro- russian candidate, pro-russian

pro-russian parties gave this new pro in the face of europe, all of their advertising spaces supported the statements of the party, the statements of pro-russian and pro-serbian politicians, respectively, were exactly in favor of this candidate, who seems to be pro- european. therefore, this schedule is preserved despite the fact that in the second round, other people will compete for the position of president then the question arises natalya listen, it's just that i sometimes thought that those about the montenegrin forces that are identified with smilodzhukanovych, who well , they are also so sinusoidal, then for serbia, then for independent montenegro, we remember all this but he has been in power for 30 years and i have in my mind that he can simply get bored so that people will vote for someone else because this is boring not because we are running in the arms of the soviet union or the russian federation or serbia but just listen

this can only happen in moscow, can you imagine. we remember a lot of things together . and in ukraine, president kravchuk is roughly like milodyukanovych, he was like then, so he is now , he is the president, the prime minister, the leaders of the parliament there, you give and change b chairs but he is a factor, is this not a danger, do they understand about the montenegrin forces that it is necessary to change to some other face, is he really so popular, this love-seeker, no, just like that , because he is simply bored and his political power is terribly fed up already, he did not recruit montenegrins uh, such a small number of votes, well, that is, it is nominally not so small, but it is much less than in montenegro about montenegrin voters and about european really antiseptic anti-western ones, but simply

because, well, one person is one political power still governs the country when it was yugoslavia, it was in power in montenegro in the republic that was then the republic of golos, independent montenegro is again djukanych , montenegro is in nato again djukanovych and people just can't stand it, all the more so because in reality it is not any democracy and the european choice if the same person and force rule the country all the time. see another question. i was in montenegro a few years ago. i liked it very much . it was a very good trip. i will not spread it to the centers. well, in short, is such exoticism possible when the political force at its head is so pro-serbian with

a hint of pro-russian. and a member country , well, it already exists, it already exists, it is a member of nato, it is not a candidate, nothing, it is a member of nato, there are nato there is a lot of nativistic stuff going on in the institutions, but at the head will be a person who says so-and-so podgorica moscow vgesda vmeste a-and in fact almost such a light version has already happened because in 2020 the serbian and pro-russian parties won the parliamentary elections forces, they created a bloc with pro-european civil movements, but because they were present there. well, literally , agents of moscow, well, agents of belgrade , i won’t even say that, of course, but i am agents of moscow in general. it was precisely with nato that the problems began in montenegro in 2020, and

montenegro stopped to participate in public exercises montenegro did not allow conducting exercises on its territory montenegro blocked the installation of a radar that was needed by nato in order to monitor the situation in the balkans and in general in problems have already started in southern europe in southern europe and montenegro due to the fact that leaks of secret information began through montenegrin officials, this all began to happen and then e. there were several other factors and the government was reformatted. uh, for today, right up until the last moment, montenegro tried to keep the balance, well, that is, on the one hand , the prime minister comes to ukraine, goes to

bucha, supports zelenskyi, returns to er homeland to his own and opens er a new russian vodka factory , well, that is, this is the balance about russia. well, here the influence is undoubtedly, i understand those montenegrins who have businesses, vacation businesses, and i see that when i go to some russian sites , they are very popular and there is still something for sale, for rent, when you drive, come to us, we are waiting for you here, ah, and so, this business, what you just said about and about the bitter plant, and it is beneficial to a large part of montenegrin society, he simply understands that the english won't come to it, the germans won't come, and the russians will come, so i already have a guarantee for a four-month long-term lease to whom i rent something and it's beautiful

, and then i can drink uh, beautiful montenegrin wine, i forgot it in my knapsack in the morning, in fact, it's not quite yes, for some reason, because ukrainians mostly know montenegro, and yes, from the resorts on the sea , one gets the impression that russian business investments are huge there, well , montenegro is not only resorts. there are many other industries in general the economy is not based only on resorts, although resorts are also important, but first of all, the main investments in all industries in general are not russian, that is, systemic large investments are not russian a-a, mainly support comes from the european union and

european countries a-a huge the influence of china, for example, the largest loan taken by montenegro. she took it from china, after all, this is not the west, but this is not russia, but montenegro quarreled with a large russian business , it first privatized its metallurgical plants, bought deripaska, then they took they nationalized, returned and then sold these factories and russian business are not present in strategic industries, but other money in general is present, and there is a military industry that works to the order of nato. that is, there are still yugoslav ones left and they work now , well, not in russia, but not too much there, that’s why there mixed, for example, in the energy sector, there is italian business, not russian, namely italian, and moreover, it is not disguised

russian, namely, city business, and that is , in montenegro, there is no such thing as a business oriented specifically to russia, no, rather it is after all, it is more geopolitics than economics, but it is strange when on the one hand they are nato members, on the other hand they are all too afraid of the leakage of secret information, on the third hand there is no russian business of the system, in short , it is a very confusing situation and who skillfully jokhanovych will win regardless of whether or not there will be a change, a change in the country's leader, this leads to the fact that after all, it is the party of dyukanovych and ion - he will personally remain in history, whether it will happen in these elections or later in the parliamentary elections or first in the presidential elections, then in of course, there is still a chance for zhukan

or his forces, but at the moment , analysts are still thinking about what will happen if the typist loses, well, let's see what will happen, but the trend is exactly the same. thank you very much natalia ishchenko, project manager of the balkan council, what exactly about the balkans, she told us about such a wonderful country as montenegro. and the country is really wonderful, very exotic, pleasant , very beautiful. i would say even very beautiful . well, that's the end of my part iryna koval will definitely have the word today , she will tell you