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sports. personally, my interest in the sport of the great sport returned at the moment when ukrainians from zakarpattia minai were mobbed by russians in a turkish hotel. at that moment, i again felt that, despite the war, interest in sports had returned. ah, we have such guests today that we will definitely learn a lot of interesting and intriguing things about the presence of the russians at the olympic games. we will definitely discuss it. in our studio today on zhan beleniuk is a people's deputy, a ukrainian athlete , a champion of the olympic games, a multiple prize-winner of the european world championships, we are very glad to see igor gypsy in the studio, our colleague , a sports journalist, a tv presenter, we are very glad that visited our studio. i'm very pleased. if i start the program like this, i fell asleep. well, let's talk about this story. we'll pass by the same place. well, it's a very interesting story. they tell us that we

accidentally met them there. they were rude. they ran away for three days and waited for them there for three days. such guys, believe me, they were ready to chase them all over this hotel, and they need a cover and a means, but just what happened there , what a story, and the tire man was not supposed to live there , they were supposed to evict them, but an earthquake happened and it started crowding people there resettlement resettlement they say you will be there for three days she says everything will be fine everything will be fine there is no turkish hotel so it was interesting they kicked me out for doing it and very well and it is correct that it ended the way it ended but i would like to start a conversation if we talk more a-a more seriously about uh-e story hmm which is currently unfolding around the possible participation of russia in belarus at the olympic games next

year, the president of the year thomas bach a-a made such a statement that if politics decides who can take participation in competitions, then sports and athletes become tools of politics, then sports cannot convey their unifying power. we must be politically neutral, but not apolitical, mr. jean. how do you, a person who knows olympic cuisine inside out, understand these veiled attempts to bring back the russians? 60 politics at the olympic games well, first of all, i want to say that mr. bach is an experienced bureaucrat . i think that he will definitely be able to find the necessary words to justify this or that action and convey it to the people who are watching him performance, but we know for sure then uh, more precisely, i personally don’t understand

what they relied on at the beginning of the full-scale war , where did they go when they banned the representatives of uh, russia and belarus from participating in international launches, what has changed during this year, absolutely nothing, that is, russia continues to kill our civilians er occupying parts of our country we are fighting for our independence and nevertheless certain metamorphoses are taking place inside the international flu committee which for some reason er with similar statements makes us think that they somehow want to change their vision of this situation and involve athletes from the aggressor country, athletes who personally repeatedly expressed their position both in social networks and simply by going to competitions with the ministry of health and for the time being allow it to compete together with the whole

civilized world with ukrainians who i personally have no idea how they can shake hands, how they can stand on the same pedestal with athletes who allowed themselves such actions alya shina mynai every year can i offer a little here zhanna, because well, as far as i understand, well, it's all equal to us, the discussion should be yes , it's not me, it does n't have to be what is my point of view? wow, she is for me. well, i brought her out myself. well, you say that because the year hasn't changed, a lot has changed because the year is very important for sports. we understand that we are approaching the olympic year. will not admit russian belarusians athletes, they will not go to the olympics if they are not allowed now, because they will have to go through qualifying competitions , right, no, and here now they are just as far as i understand they are. last year

, there was no such a note in time. did not affect the olympic year, that is, they would have been allowed, then how the events will unfold, yes, and now sports . well, the same tank is sitting, i think we are approaching the olympic year, we need to give all athletes the opportunity to earn licenses to the olympics because if we do not allow it now, the olympics will come ukraine will win maybe we can allow such a moment that in the 24th year at the time of the olympics ukraine was already well we will win we hope for a victory this year we hope now they will tell her rightly bahaha allow russian belarusian processes he says and since they didn't pass the qualification, i can't do it and now they are just looking for some certain such um certain option to give them the opportunity for athletes to at least earn these licenses correctly as far as i understand it can be so, so, so, if the ideas of what the bank is doing now, i think that globally , i understand your point of view and i think that

globally they think, uh, roughly like this, but if they saw an opportunity there, you can say uh in spite of the current situation on the fronts, the fact that russia has attacked and continues to try there to push back our troops and everything else, i think that even at the level of the international federation, they would work out an algorithm for unification e russian athletes but after completion of military operations and if we are in this situation after the victory of ukraine in this situation i want to attack that in the olympic games of the year 48, germany and japan did not participate as aggressors and as countries which and allies

won but that is not less, that is, it was probably not before that, but the fact itself, that is, we have such precedents that the paralympic team of ukraine, especially, it was last year after the a-a invasion. they also did not participate in the olympics. they are russians and belarusians. were already there in olimpiyskiy villages, but they were turned away and did not get home, that is, i think that it would be more logical to work at the level of the federation and develop an algorithm of possible actions in the event of the victory of ukraine , how athletes who did not participate in public statements of support for this war can get to the olympic games in a different way, for now this it's getting to the point that they simply, despite there , uh, uh, there will be a victory for us at this moment, we will still be in a state of war, but they want to uh, from the rhetoric of mr. bach, it can be seen

that they want, uh, to add representatives of russia and belarus, well, mainly russia, because what belarus is like a trailer to the olympic games, the polish committee is a commercial structure, as far as they can be independent in their position, because we know that russian money is present everywhere in sports organizations, in international organizations, in the red cross, in the osce, in the store everywhere russian money is flown by the international olympic committee, its position, to what extent it can be supported by russian money, i am not a member of the international committee, but you yourself said that uh, a lot, almost, you are not , for sure, not every organization in this world it may have a certain interest in the entry of such representatives who have money , the russians have money and the russians have a large train

of various manipulations , including corruption and doping and all other types at all levels in including in sports, that is, we are not even talking about the moral qualities of these people and the top sports leadership of the russian federation, that is , they even before that spoke under a neutral flag before the invasion of ukraine due to the fact that they are high there at the level of their fsbeshniks were carried er doping samples of all athletes to the laboratory there some er special assessment so because of which they submitted where they took there er let's say doping tests that do not pass and probably inserted tenors there the person who was engaged in this she went to

of the states and told how it all happens, we are saying that sport can be outside of politics for russia , sport is politics, not only sport in general, education , media, any sphere of life that will not be touched by the instrument of their state militarism, and actually why be surprised that and big sports are also in this category, you just wanted to continue the topic. it's just that russia is the country that constantly says that sports should be outside of politics, and we see putin everywhere, who is surrounded by athletes with olympic medals who constantly say whether they support our president so that we ourselves are the strongest. that is, it is like looking through a mirror , that is, they are rebroadcasting one point of view . i see many people who are not even there from naboth. they sincerely believe in what they say from their televisions. they often come they tell me in the social network and there in the comments that sport should be outside of politics and when you, well, i don't do it, but it's just that every adequate, adequate person

will give himself up. the question is, what is the russian olympic champion doing at propaganda rallies in support of the annexation of crimea ? with putin with the olympic medal , that is, in this, mr. bach, in all these gestures, mr. bach sees absolutely no interference in the olympic movement, there is manipulation of the olympic principles and other sports games, you know, we really smile like that this is a consequence of the soviet system . that is, we praised it. there was nothing for maistrov to brag about his successes in sports, and where they stand in the service of the general line of france, everything shows this testimony, well, this is a demonstration of a better life, as for god, well, it really applies, that is how it has always been. that is, we is a sport, we show that we can, the strongest, the smartest, the best sports will win. he had already written, and even well, of course, it was a tool of propaganda, and now it remains the same in russia. i just want

to continue zhanna's opinion about what he says there is money. well, the money has become a little less. but nevertheless, there is a lot. nevertheless, a lot. well, i just already see, well, with all this, maybe i am such a person. you know, i am very optimistic, but i understand that certain processes are taking place, and you know that . if there was no total total advantage, why? because, for example, there is well, now let's discuss the specifics. yes , there are fencers bach, a fencer, the president of the russian olympic committee, poznyakov , a fencer in our country, vadym markovich lutsenko , a fencer, the head of the fencing federation, was oliyu sharu, alishe rusmanov, one of the richest of people eh who has now got eh federation is sown with money of course it is and of course they will look for opportunities because they are all obligated somewhere there that's all yes yes yes athletics there was no such influence and easy to grab extended the disqualification yes, i have different opinions at the level of the international federation, if you play, russia is the leader, of course there will be

a pro-russian lobby in it well, but it’s just that the same one recently extended the ban on participation , yes, they survived in hockey, has a reserve without the winter olympics until the olympic e- they still have time enough, but for putin, for lukashenka, it is very, very painful. all his life, he was the president of the hockey federation. there was a renaissance. well , i was in switzerland. he lived in russia . he was there. there is a homogeneous movement , there is a week, as she would say in galicia, you know, that is, there will be a dispute, and this dispute will last long enough, and it is not that simple. to allow the germans and the swedes said, well, you allow it, we gave it to me, we will not host tournaments, look for where you will hold tournaments, that is, it is not a uniform story here, and the fact that there is no money to throw around now, they said about that, i apologize. a few more words about football, as an example, she said that without gazprom, they live in this muff because

the main sponsor of uefa is rome, we have money there . they were crazy about compensation. from that situation i don't know how it all turned out, somehow it is and now at this stage, the federation understands that it is not possible, that is, there are conscious federations that understand that it is not possible to constantly fall under this needle oil in the needle when they will constantly pour you some certain money, you need to look for alternatives and the whole world understands this, and i don't think that right now, at the moment, there is such a critical situation that they will still push through as it will be, there will be many more, there will be many more very different moments, well , the boxers there are purely pro-russian lobbies that's right. well, to the international federation, the president of the federation of russians, he says everything, we allow belarusians, russia is all the same to us, so how many eight countries or 10 countries, and the main countries did not go to the world cup, you just say we will not go to the world cup , that will be it. this is a serious discussion, as the southerner noted 38 in the year after that, he gave a term of service after there was

an olympics in berlin in 1930, in 1936. so when hitler was there at the opening of the olympics, he raised his hands and they shouted to him, "hail hitler, after that there was a boycott of the olympics, there was a boycott in the 80s." th year when the ussr started the war in afghanistan, there was a boycott. we are now going to , well, to such a scenario, a coalition of 35 countries that is just advocating to find some kind of compromise solution so as not to resort to a boycott, but at least we see that there are 35 countries that are ready in order to at least take such a step, on the other hand, there is ukraine , which can also be a story because, well, how can i say what kind of compromises this can be, you have to ask the athlete both of you, i am just explaining to the athletes now, i think that there you explain, imagine a decision is made at the state level, this cuts off the fate of a large number of people

, right, the first thing is about all the countries there are 40 who say 35 someone says 40 countries that can hypothetically join the hypothetical boycott and as a sign solidarity of ukraine, but the question is a little different, what are the people who made statements and whose words were perceived as an official statement of the country, they are not official, they are not the subject of the alpine movement in this country. that is, it can be there, i know there is some kind of peace the city said that is the subject communication between the country and the international olympic committee is the national olympic committee of this country, which according to the olympic charter should be , as it were, neutral to politics, that is , and similar ministries, that is just an oxymoron in our country that in our minister is at the same time the head of the national alpine committee because

these things should be divided like this and uh . of course, these words of these people are perceived as support for ukraine, but we understand that in order to do what germany did for a few days therefore, at the level of the olympic committee, they held an assembly or an executive committee there. and they said that today we are with ukraine, we do not support the joining of the representatives of russia and belarus to the international alpine movement and to international sports in general, but we would corner the aa and boycott the games, for sure we will not and now, first of all, everyone is talking about the boycott of the olympic games for another 1.5 years if we as a state are currently there, if we consider a negative

scenario there and now representatives will be admitted russia and belarus and we will say that we will not participate in qualifying tournaments because representatives of russia and belarus will be present there, so there is no point in talking about the olympics because we will not get there , we will not have licenses for this in the past , so the situation here is different. in various federations of fete, the qualifying stage begins next month, greco-roman wrestling from september , that is, we still have a reserve of time in order to see where the wind will blow at the level of the international federation, but you know i i remember a few days before the start of the war on february 22, when putin announced a speech that he was annexing the territory occupied by ukraine and annexed by ukraine. 15 minutes before the start, when it was supposed to start. this announcement and there was a video of a meeting in red square of russian athletes who

came from the winter olympics in china , and we remember that at this olympics, due to doping scandals, russia performed without its symbols without a flag without the inscription russia and i turn on this video and there is simply a crazy all-russian holiday of russian athletes , winners who once again won at the olympics, the whole world, and they are all there, of course, with russian symbols, they are the winners of the world, they are triumphants, they are on red square with the flags of russia from ten meters high and everything is furnished a few days ago they were shown at the olympics just with the olympic flag , they were running there shooting, so, well, you can’t not recognize them, yes and here everything is - they defeated the whole world and when you see it, you understand why putin needs the olympics, what is this sport for, what is this doping for? yes, he needs a purely

sports victory, he needs the flag of russia, the anthem of russia at sports games of any level in order to carry it simply as an element, as you mentioned in the soviet the union had well, what is an olympic sport, and it is an amateur sport , yes, in the first place, it does not even apply , because everything is possible, and i am from russia , the soviet union solved this issue in them. professional sports training in order to be guaranteed to win, to raise the flags of the ussr and compete with the united states in the number of global olympiads won, there was no other goal. now china has joined this competition, which wins all yes and now demonstrates how the communist regime is converting

sports in political victory is therefore important for putin to return in any way in order to be told on his television that a russian athlete won there ukrainian american french german, therefore, we are on the battlefield that we will defeat their leopards, there is no more sense there. you said everything correctly. this element of propaganda is very important for him, and under any circumstances, then you can show anything you want on red square, it is absolutely fair. i just wanted to know a little more about how to say well, what should our position be in general? we can't boycott or should we boycott because of this position? a fast athlete does not become an athlete from the age of four at 5:00 a.m. when he is engaged in the 12th, the decision is to select, relatively speaking, from 100 to 200 people in ukraine who gave their whole lives, all their lives, all their health in order to

somehow find themselves in therefore, it is possible to win the issue of life and the coaches were simply physically given their lives during the russian aggression. and i believe that before this i have repeatedly stated that if the representatives of russia and belarus are allowed to participate in international sports, it will be a great diplomatic defeat of our country and we must do everything to prevent this from happening because there is no reason for it to happen. from the word at the moment, the recommendations of the international olympic committee, they were on the 28th to be considered, we do not know what decision will be made, but i am very i hope that it will be in our favor because it is logical and correct and all these adequate leaders understand this, the whole progressive world is with us as they will decide . we will see there literally in four days

it will be just too bad if for such diplomatic defeats, athletes will pay for such defeats with their dreams, and that's for sure, it will definitely be, well, if it were to be a total defeat, that is, we should have done everything so that there would be no russians in belarus olympics, but it turned out that they are at the olympics and we are not there, how can we do it? so there are interesting things we can do in order to influence this well, let's say this rather corrupt organization. this is how it looks . at least from the side. and i believe

that e-e is the subject of direct communication representatives of the national olympic committee, they should be there constantly in the lasagna where they can communicate directly with the representatives of the executive committee and the representatives of the international olympic committee regarding this situation, convey their position, invite them to ukraine, as they once invited mr. bach, he was here, he talked with zelenskyi, and so on. we have two representatives in the international alpine committee, mr. bubka. by the way , i have never seen him publicly say anything about the current situation. mr. barzov and these people who er, well, they are definitely influential at this level. they also need to have some kind of communication. we are open athletes, definitely open, and in the sense that if klych is there, i was sure that half of the national team will come to this lozana and hold a rally and report what is there in the same kateryna tabachnyk had a child, she died , she was killed by a market attack by