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[000:00:00;00] but they were almost unarmed to defend themselves. and they encountered completely armed russians. we understood on february 25. we understood that we will definitely not be at mass events, that is, there will be a full program of hunting. i remember how crimea was captured. that is, there can be no public events. and then we had the feeling that there will be nowhere better than at home, we have to defend our home who but us will leave the house that we left, and this was in my head at some stage the understanding passed that we are now living unique events and we have to survive at least well, at least for some time to live through these events in order to understand the most complete what what is happening because if you find yourself in the occupation, it is very
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terrible but an invaluable experience, right, a person, what treatment is real but honestly, i love this phrase, i repeat it wherever i can if i hadn't believed in god before february 24, i would have started believing in him on this very day, because there were a lot of coincidences that helped us actually survive, and we didn't go until the last one, because sometime in april, i realized that we didn't know how to go safer. than to stay or no, that is, there is such a fear of leaving well, somewhere, well, in principle, all the protests have already ended, that is, the russians controlled everything, so we understood that on april 25, they entered the city council, expelled city council officials , they could not agree on cooperation, and this was the turning point when we understood that hmm maybe it makes sense to go, but how much
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safer is it to go than to stay, so we sat until the last and took a risk only when on the fourth hmm we were hunted already nearby, there are those locations where we were there yes, i know that you moved many times have you seen them, someone told you that they are coming for you, they told me twice already , they told me what exactly they are interested in. well, they are interested in us. a message in an sms messenger can be provocative, i don’t even write now and during the occupation i never wrote to people first in whom i’m not sure where they are, it ’s actually like a skill if i don’t know what’s wrong with a person, i don’t write it because, well, it may be
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the last sms in my life i can provoke i still have it honed from the crimea, and when we were told that they were interested in you, i didn’t ask for any details, i understood that we had to somehow change the location to hide and so on . once i met with those who were looking for us, again, this well, this is magic if there were no witnesses who saw it all. i would have thought that i had dreamed it because i went a little crazy because it turned out that i couldn't go to a cafe or a store. they were living at home or had already changed their address somewhere. yes this is a more or less light period, if it is light at all name we didn't go to cafes or shops we asked our friends not to blink too much at us because, well, who will be the first to be friends we are quite public, we do not hide friendships and will look for them through friends
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, so uh, acquaintances of friends of friends of friends, verified people again after all, it's been verified, it's a word of mouth, that is, i trusted my friends and no one let me down, and once again we asked them to bring us something from chemistry products and we get to know each other on the phone and it's so simple , hmm, it occurred to her to say zhen, come on pop' we can have coffee. well, you're just breathing you sit indoors all day brewing coffee one by one we drink together okay, there was no way to go to the cafe, although some cafes were still working , you could theoretically go, but i didn't know that my appearance a-ah i came out we drank coffee , i had a rule that we adopted we don't appear right away, well, it just so happened that before the invasion, when we were in poland, we were resting. we bought new clothes there, and i
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had the opportunity not to wear what we were seen in. this is also, again, a magical coincidence during the occupation. i didn't wear that what was i seen in before? i went out in a tracksuit that only my friends saw. maybe we sit and drink coffee. a black car arrived with it. four people got out. i 'll never forget them. two in civilian clothes. two in military clothes . identification marks are armed to the teeth and i, i understand, you know, especially those who live in the south, they see not local people, we all got a little tanned in the south, these absolutely white faces, and well, over time, especially in our work , you can understand who works in the authorities by their appearance look yes, i understand
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that it is something like the russian fsb, maybe it is their guards or fsb , because it is such a look and these military men, hmm , they said hello. there were no photos of the landmark, if they were people we don't know. they recognized me in any way , no matter what i was in , they went to our entrance. again paranoia drilled us very clearly for several years. i didn't leave without the key to that apartment, because the house we were supposed to come to was knocking on the door
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. we had a plan. the third floor, and there are still superstructures down there, so it’s not high. it’s like jumping from the second one. well, maybe we would have done something in order to survive, that is, the plan was to pack a cat, grab an alarming backpack and run . we had it like that. did not open and they left without anyone from the neighbors, when we were sitting drinking coffee, we drank coffee for about 20 minutes, and in those 20 minutes, two neighbors came out from the floor of no one 's neighbors, no one opened the door and they went to the neighbors, what is the truth? during this time, i managed to relocate. call my relatives uh, who sent other people who helped to move, that’s the story of the fact that these people came, you had to move. well, we
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moved, we didn’t have to jump from the balcony, they left people on the left to watch, well, it was clearly visible in the yard. but again, we it was very lucky that they probably didn't have our photos. well, i don't know how else to explain it . is it possible that all our collaborators were busy preparing for the celebrations ? these are the same people. i will never forget their faces. one of them was photographed . it was in the media . it slipped by . we had a counter.
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it is clear to me that we will not take part in public events, i didn't go anywhere, but we actively wrote in us. our readers were insiders . there were those who informed us. to our readers, in principle, this is our job and part of our life. and you know when people write, well, even if you don't go, we'll read you, ah, well, it was really difficult to tell people that you went, for example, and people already they won't believe you because you're definitely not there anymore, you don't understand the specifics anymore, well, that was one of the factors for us to stay, because our audience, um , i won't say that it's huge, we don't, we don't have the desire to build a huge audience, we have to have our own audience it is big enough for us to appreciate each and every one of us, so when
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our readers questioned us, they asked us to publish not on the website but in telegram, because the website does not open, but telegram opens during the occupation, we did it. that is, we went to the meeting on the fifth. i understand march 5 decided to check where we are because we are nowhere. and on this day, the russians tried to block the connection. and for some time there, for half an hour or an hour, the connection between two operators was lost, one operator was working ... we have a meter on the stairwell, so we immediately went to see, we tore out the meter , yes, romance, that she is still in my head, we thought that it might be some kind of metal scraps ran over everyone well, who knows , only yours was torn out, but only ours was torn out, we such ukhts, and on the third floor, only ours on the second all the goals on the fourth all the goals we understood what is wrong with us well, she tried
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to check whether we are at home or not and we are on some kind of estherica or on some i, well, i don't know what it is, we just continued to work, we continued opa, let's get the news, we are being dropped photos we check, well, it was so internal that the photos need to be checked to make sure that there are no faces of people or any locations, etc. , we put them in. we continue to write in the meantime. it did not appear to me that we did not write the betrayal of the traitor in us, you won the counter, we quietly continued to work. it worked. the next day there were rumors that we had left for poland in the first days, why actually poland saved us for two months, we were very , very strict that we
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well, in poland, he is in poland. and what they wanted from you, you already understand, well, they knew there were hints about you. they wanted to cooperate with you, or simply that you would like to cooperate with us. such a kirill with three axes we are familiar with volodymyr, the balance is for the whole of ukraine, the names were opened in the 22nd year, yes. and we knew them for a long time, we knew their prices, we understood that they , sir, you will not be with us. cooperation was never once threatened, yes, and no one offered us cooperation, and i think that it was either to capture the exchange fund or simply to kill them, they mentioned collaborators, and there were a lot of them then, and well , maybe not collaborators of the zhdunovs of the russian world, that's what
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we call them were there many of them before that? which was called russia, but you know, if you compare it with what i saw in crimea, it is much less, but in crimea, after all, it was processed much longer, and now i study history a little more, and then i saw that crimea was processed purposefully and there were a lot of zhdunov of the russian world in kherson, they were not so much those who wanted the russian world, but those who loved russia, those who were against the ukrainian language, there were a lot of those who spoke said, what a difference in what language they speak, ah, well, for me, there is a difference. although in everyday life i can speak strangely in languages, for example, but publicly and now mostly. it's just ukrainian, there were a lot of people who were nostalgic for the past and thereby promoted
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the imperial ideas of the russian world. there are a lot of people, and i 'm very happy to feel that in independence from the age they recognize that they were imperial. what is this? it was russian that you need to raise your ukrainian and very interested stories and so on, but in general, if you compare mm with how it could be, there are a lot of collaborators, a lot of people who fell for fast money, a lot those who nurtured all this for years, again, we were in power, let's face the realities in our power, there would be a block balance , well, we saw it. so he is now in the kremlin, uh, or with a dictator, such an unpleasant sur for me would be i did not expect the person to be a collaborator. it was about the 10th month of the large-scale invasion. it was in november. i found out about one of the people who went to cooperate. why did he go to cooperate
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? in my opinion, i learned about it in october or september. in november and it was unpleasant for me, i did not expect this from him, all the others for my expectations were quite predictable, they left well, we know that some of the streams of garbage have already gone to kobzon to other collaborators on the left bank or in moscow, i know of several who tried to get certificates for housing in russia and are now howling in the moscow swamps in the literal sense because everything turned out to be not so rosy for them there. no one is waiting for them, no one loves them there, that's why there are enough of them, and it's another matter that there are many who have not officially seen the light of day anywhere . now they will wear embroidered shirts, if not already they put on, that is, this one is also more frightening, you, uh, four, five months, there is no 4.5 months, just under the nose of the enemy, they continued
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to work, live, i don’t know, in an underground life , some kind of like ciphers, and how was she considered to leave, what was the driving force, so you all well, first of all, when you are constantly under pressure, i understand that it is a concern - it is a fear, yes. when our colleagues and relatives who left recommended us, leave , leave, yes, the zsu will come, they will come and release you, but the question is when, at what cost , do you leave because, well, you don't have to become exchange fund. we were very afraid. we were really afraid
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. the further we went, the more we actively monitored all possible means of exit. there were supposed to be fsbs , i won’t tell you the details, but we left, that’s why we renewed all the documents already in the territory under the control of ukraine, because we couldn’t leave simply by opening up completely, and we took only summer clothes, such a change of clothes by the way, the cat, i know that he helped you to leave peacefully. well, first of all, any animal is anti-stress with us, and it was bad for him . i am in the occupation just to understand how much i love animals and my relatives. i am in the occupation and i managed thanks to my friends acquaintances and to buy a year of medicine for my relatives and to buy a sedative for the cat so that he could go out with him, but he was very sick, but the weather was in our favor , july, and on this very day it became cool, and
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for the first time, he cheered up the whole bus, it was mi-mi- mishno it was very pleasant for us there there were children who also took care of him and they were interested. and secondly, it somewhat softened the departure as such, we were just a couple with two bags and a cat. well, nothing interesting. two mobile phones were not waiting for anyone. there were social networks, but not ours, you can talk about it a little bit, everyone already knows, without details, of course, but the fact that you can't carry anything extra, i can say for sure that nothing is worth your life, only living things , so they must be taken out together with himself the idea that we need to go is another rating now, by the way, we’ll see him, he’s already distracted the kaderites, that’s right, how was it
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, well, they just came and scared us very much there are no adequate russians, you just have to learn it forever for a long time, and we were warned that the akaderians were the wildest, so we were ready for anything, but when they saw the animals in the cabin, they softened, they became a little softer somehow er, yes , bags and people were checked, but without any malice that we saw. we stood in line at a well-known roadblock there, we saw what was happening even with my bad eyesight . i saw very well what was happening here, they just checked how we were at all the roadblocks and we drove really, but the events that we
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experienced were simply not enough this music in the background that was in the movies when the audience understands what is the point or now there will be some kind of denouement, the climax. yes, you came to kyiv now, but i know that you immediately began to help the people of kherson, especially after the liberation of the city, that this is a volunteer for locals, for whom we have different directions of help, it happened in my life that i always help someone, this is part of my life, maybe because i became a public figure at one time, then a reliable person, after all, a person more or less known in the city and at the expense of i can accumulate some resources because of this, we always helped, and i have a wonderful, wonderful relationship with organizations that take care of children with disabilities . it was very difficult for them during the occupation. one of
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the organization's leaders is my friend, and we have accumulated i have funds to help her . i mean, we were still sitting in the occupation. i understand that it is absolutely easy to explain the economic and financial. more like a collapse, these families did not receive alimony, did not receive money, almost because these are mainly families who do not work. well, there is no way to work when a mother alone raises a child with a disability for so that they did not go to the russians for the humanitarian woman
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, the head of the public organization did everything possible to simply collect funds in the form of donations. that i left russia can pay already for myself have outlined some dates or conditions under which you will return home give exactly that kherson give exactly no because we wanted to go in march of this year, we rented housing for six months that is we were sure that uh, even if well, when the city is liberated, we have to arrive no earlier than in two or three months, now we understand that it will be delayed for at least another six months , probably less, eh hmm, so there are no dates under which we will return, well, that's it er, they are very ghostly because er, hmm, i was born in crimea , i lived most of my life in er, kherson, the first 20 years , half there and there, that is, i know crimea very well , i know feodosia very well, i had to
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go there and during the occupation it was very such sad devices, but i was there several times during the occupation until they hinted to me that if you don't go there anymore, you 'll go to one end, but hardly to the other , here are the conditions, probably on the condition that we can take part in the restoration of the city with full force because my main condition is that they let me work there, there will be something to work on, there will definitely be a question of whether they will give it or not. we are currently working in a remote mode. i would not say that it is a remote mode, because we kill from time to time in the city, after all, we are relatives there we have our readers who like us love and appreciate well, again, we visit from time to time, and the first time i went home, uh, not to see what's in my house . although i also have friends there who monitor and
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live with me. i came to take out my grandfather's archive of my local historian who lived in bathing, that is, well, i have very peculiar, maybe not very grounded, not very grounded, my goal is more deeper to publish somehow correctly well , for the sake of this archive, i entered the historical faculty of the black sea national university while under occupation named after peter mohyla, he is currently teaching super in mykolaiv. i am currently studying there and at the same time in slupsk in poland at the polish academy. we need to publish the little bit, we are publishing it, it is partially digitized and we have a lot of work ahead of us
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. i am in mykolaiv because i have to visit there from time to time, but i can see and um, as he told me , my brother told me how i ended up in mykolaiv says i never thought that so many people could have such sad faces. mykolaiv and kherson are cities of sad people now because the faces are really exhausted and sad . we don't know when it will all end, and every time i come to mykolaiv or home, this impression is different from happiness. that there are no occupiers here, but the dogs continue to shoot, so when to return to the big question, we thank you for your heroism and i wish you to return to kherson and feodosia as soon as possible, and you have your own person from kherson and feodosia on your cup, so that you can rest easy
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to go to peculiar cities and from there they sent us a watermelon, because a year without kherson watermelons is difficult, but not so sweet . they are the tastiest in ukraine, it’s true . yes, it’s true. and since we will also return to crimea , karaite pies from me, thank you very much , thank you ihor it was a face project, friends, his heroine today yevgenia virlych - a journalist and volunteer from our sunny
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kherson and then the marathon continues ah -ah - join the brave defend your cities
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and towns of chernihiv region chris black smoke and after the hostile russian invasion here again human hope has settled in. i have a row of yellow and blue flags and everything is good, boys, everything is good for everyone , the city of heroes, chernihiv oblast, courage is born here , we are strong in our struggle for that, we are even stronger in the unity of the unity of the whole world, hand in hand, side by side at the same table
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friends of ukraine and freedom today with us protection be here and from dozens of political tribunes europe and america democratic countries of all continents sports and cultural community hello i am betstiller i am in ukraine support come to ukraine we spent with mr. president the united states of america in ukraine help, give weapons, give hope for a prosperous future, our land and we will definitely win for the sake of the freedom of our people and

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