[000:00:00;00] again, the christian faith is taught, and it is not for nothing that today they are asking to be condemned exactly at the level of the church court. that is what we hear from the lips of the patriarch of moscow, mrs. lyudmila church , patriarch bartholomew, who said that the russian church shares the primary reason for the fact that the war was unleashed. russia unleashed a war in ukraine, uh, here he is speaking from the other side , the pope, who is ready to meet, for example , with kirill gundyaev, who says that, well, not everything is so clear-cut if you analyze it in principle, because he has this from time to time his statements differ, but for the most part, for the most part, nothing sounds so clear, why, for some reason, the head of the roman catholic church is bartholomew, the ecumenical patriarch of the orthodox church

, somehow clearly understands what and why, and why ? well, because patriarch bartholomew is still a man orthodox and he controls the situation and is well -informed about the orthodox problems between different orthodox churches, and the pope of rome, well, he leads, you know , the catholic, as we say, universal church, and he is not so well-informed about it orthodox problems, like patriarch bartholomew, he has his own problems. if you think that there are fewer challenges in the catholic church, there are a lot of them, and his soul aches not so much for the orthodox as it does for the catholics, and i would like you to know whether the pope let's say there is the archbishop of canterbury, who heads the anglican church, and there are baptist leaders

or pentecostal leaders there, i'm not talking about muslim or odesa leaders, they thought the way ukraine wants now, well, it will never be the same i.e. everyone comes out of their own interests. well, what is the interest of the pope, the pope has one interest in getting to russia because no pope has ever been to the territory of russia. and he wants to find himself inscribed in history because he is the first pope who from this country may be the first pope to visit hell. well, no one has ever been. i want you to know what it meant. he wants to visit there, and he has set himself such a goal, and we can't take this big dream away from him . lives with this dream that must be seen domes, see the moscow kremlin, meet putin, convince him that you are a bad joke, you can’t do bad

things, that you must love all brothers, that is, before the pope , you know, there are such big, very tasks of a universal scale. in particular, i and i do not know because he is with me did not share his plans, but considering that he considers himself as such, you know, a cosmic peacemaker , that is, an earthly peacemaker, he still has the idea in his head that he will be able to reverse the course of the historical development of mankind and after all, to influence those on whom it now depends to continue the war or to stop it. well, plus, you know some of your own, you know, such pure , uh, missionary ideas , it is very difficult for catholics in russia today. honestly, i want to tell you to exist, that is, they clearly do not occupy even the wrong place there what is there in rivne with the orthodox church and some well, more or less normal

situation, that is, they are always looking at the authorities and waiting for some trouble for themselves from the authorities, although in fact all emperors, let's tell the truth, how many of them were of foreign origin, they were all non-orthodox , they were all baptized either into catholicism or into protestantism well, but this attitude towards catholics allows them to exist, that is, they do not use their right , which is written in the constitution that everyone is equal before the law, but you know, the orthodox church and the kremlin allow them to exist well, and pope thinks it is possible in this way. when he arrives , he will be able to win some additional rights for his faithful. and maybe he is thinking further and deeper, you know, the economic

idea of ​​combining all christians into a single cathedral it means an indivisible church, if the pope simply cares about catholics in ukraine in particular, then i do not understand why , for the first time in many decades, a student of the greek catholic church does not have the rank of a cardinal . -e jorge bergoglio he is also francis i don't understand why it was done this way, i don't understand why it was necessary to lower the rights of ukrainian greek catholics and not listen to their words, in particular in the vatican in that rather high position to which we have always had from joseph the blind, this applies not only to the granting of the title of cardinal to the current head of the greek catholic church, but also to the procedures for declaring certain religious figures in various countries as saints. well, for some reason

, ukrainian saints are recognized with great reluctance. well, we can think of the reason for this . well, especially the attitude towards ukraine. among all the eastern catholic churches that have friendly relations, they are not subject to the pope , but they are in such a situation. to the eurasian union with them, the ukrainian greek-catholic church is the largest among all eastern catholic churches, perhaps the pope is worried that in this way he will give some additional powers to this church, which may well break away, especially since today the resources of this church are simply huge, we see there imo our vocations and the good world and the greek catholics, you see how successful we are now outside the borders of ukraine, they

actually restored the entire infrastructure that existed before the second world war, even increased more. that is, it is a church that is developing very dynamically, and against the background of other structural elements of the catholic church, it looks very, you know, so promising, i would say, well , i think so, maybe the pope simply wants to maintain some kind of balance that exists inside of the catholic church without giving privileges to any of its parts or those who are with them in its professional union, you know from us the closed plans of all the churches, that is, there is something that is open to all mankind and there are such internal documents that tell who tell them how to act in certain situations well

, let's wait for something to open up and we really don't have time for one minute, a very short answer from you on the 20th, on the 29th, literally on wednesday , the deadline expires since when the russian e- the popes should leave the kyiv-pechers lavra. will they do it? in your opinion, they will not . what should be the actions of the authorities? in short, except for the monks, there is indeed a proposal for them to leave the territory of the monastery. there are also other structures, in particular. and you know, there are spiritual educational institutions, the seminary and the academy of this church, i don’t know. it is certain that they will be chosen from that territory, the situation so far, you know, looks very strange. that is, they really don’t want to leave the privileged place, because

they really invested money and effort and the territory there was somehow organized, but on the other hand, they themselves do not know what to expect from the state, and i don't think that they would like any kind of confrontation or any kind of resistance, because it can be considered by the state as a forceful confrontation. well, what about us we know that if you resist, you can end up in the relevant structures. that is, we got the impression that no one knows exactly how it will end and how we will meet the 30th number , whether they will really leave, but we can already see that the high-ranking officials of this monastery are being taken out and packed. well, of course

monks especially have nothing to take out of there, because if they live a monastic life, then they have, you know, such an object. rucksack and well, well, i think that well , if this one is going to onufriy, it’s somewhere there and there will be nowhere. the main thing is that he took with him the order that he received from putin, he did not forget, and this is the minimum set with which he will always be warm and cozy in any situation. thank you very much, god. today we had a doctor of philosophy with us. this photo is beautiful. well, let me show you the growth for a second. this is what you can look at , what you really need to look at. when we

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answers to difficult questions, exclusively for espresso viewers sunday, march 26, 8:00 p.m. we are returning to our broadcast, we have a little bit left until the end of our sixth hour today, and oleksandr kondratyuk, the founder of the all-ukrainian educational company set start, joins us, mr. oleksandr . good day. congratulations, mr. oleksandr. well, we talked a lot about what should not have been appointed the previous scarlet minister was appointed his scandalous barely-barely-barely with the help of such characters as shufrych and other regional former quite odious appointed then kept and it is unclear why you also noted back, it’s honest to say what the scarlet was meant for. now you have an understanding and how do you evaluate the stay of the scarlet for almost three years in the position, what did you manage

to do, what did you achieve? actually, he had such a period, you know, that was marked by the absence of some simple situations, yes there were coronaviruses, then the war. i don’t want to say that everything was done well, because everything was done quite badly, there are no innovations, i’d rather tell you what was not done, but it was necessary, it was the lack of fully interactive platforms some unique ones of ours for online learning, and because of this, the remote control is associated with some kind of horror and a low-quality, adequate learning process, corrupt, there were even scandals, there were cases when, during the presidential elections, people in masks ran into mogilanka, stole some ballot box, and then, inexplicably, some people blamed it even the minister of education, that is , the ministry is accused of this conflict, and this is also all for the cadence, so to speak, of mr. scarlet, so i evaluate, of course , without results, his period. well, he became

such a person who went through this difficult and unsuccessful period and sent his resignation, no wonder because now this format of the multitest was developed , in principle, this year is absolutely wrong , there is an error upon an error and it is not surprising that, as a matter of fact , pedro is the first personnel decision of the new the minister of forestry, oksana lisovoy, was replaced by the director of the utu to ms. tetyana, who was the deputy director of the utu for a long time , because of this, she knows everything inside out, and we hope to correct all the mistakes that were made, at least those that can be corrected now first of all, to give next year information to the tenth graders already now about what will await them and definitely these will probably be four subjects from compulsory history as they should have been this year , correcting these incomprehensible tables of weighting coefficients that are compiled at first glance, well, anyway, correcting incorrect points transfer tables, which are already clear that they will again give an uneven distribution , so that you understand the points transfer table

. when you go and write, for example, 30 questions , they are then transferred to a 200-point scale yes, er, in fact, it is so asymmetrical that when you score 50% of the result, you must score 50% of the points , that is 150 points, but when you score 70%, it should be 170, so with a result of 90% of correct answers, you score not 190 points, but actually 160 with a hook, this is a very bad result, it is so asymmetrical and a little inadequately asymmetrical, this table was again mistakenly designed, so it is not surprising that oksana lisovoy's first personnel decision was to appoint the right person there, and we hope she will cope with it. and what about mr. scarlet this did not happen again, the tests were designed incorrectly, these are unclear, there are also conflicts over whether history should be mandatory or not . although, as i said, and even on the air of your channel, the test should simply be four subjects, where there is also mandatory history and

a fourth subject on the choice is never four subjects, not admission based on four, they meant after the fact the choice of three out of four that you passed, which ones you want, you choose. that is , it is an easier and more pleasant scheme for an experienced applicant, so, actually speaking, there is another more corruption-risky, and this is incidental to one of the latest news that the state has developed a scheme to combat corruption in the educational sphere. but again, this was done during the time of the scarlet fever, and there is more water there, which in general will involve various measures aimed at to fight corruption, but what exactly is not clearly stated there, only there is a good thesis about the need to ensure decent working conditions and development for every participant in the educational process , which, unfortunately, does not exist now, and this one about the low salaries of educators in the state structure and this actually speaking about the lack of motivation of the same children to absolutely learn, which will also provoke

some kind of corruption, because when a child does not know anything, someone has a question . the fact that we have not had any reform during the whole time of my brother’s plan, there is such a list of 20 points that you can probably read , which i already called uh, and there is a lack of , for example, the same career guidance, for example , a career guidance test was developed two years ago, which was supposed to help schoolchildren understand what they want to find their motivation, but it was done completely incorrectly , that is, for example, when you pass a test, i passed it to see what it is like when you show you that you have a cultural vector, that is, a vector of culture this is a person who can go, i don't know, become an actor, for example, an artist or a writer, it showed me that i also have a verbal and philosophical intelligence. that is, it is a profession, it can be creative, in addition , i had an entrepreneurial vector, but i didn't

they offered me nothing from culture, for example, i was offered the profession of a cashier at the box office of cinemas, and from the entrepreneurial vector i was offered nothing at all, neither an entrepreneur nor management from the scientific vector, i was not even shown it, that is, a completely falsely developed test, such fakes in innovation are those who generally happened during the times of scarlet fever, mr. oleksandr, we have a new minister of education, he spoke to the parliament , and of course we do not see everything that happens in the building under the dome because they said that there is not enough time for all kinds of information of state importance to be heard in this building and it is not necessary for our enemies to listen to this information. valentin, who is this psychologist? is he a behavioral psychologist who deciphers all kinds of bodily signs, but and in addition to all that, he also refers to the behavior of people, not only one person, but also a group of people, he made such a freeze frame from that video

, which is probably being shown somewhere on the tv channel, the council, a short video from the hall, and that's it , people's elected officials listening to a program speech the new minister of education, as we see, the information of the minister of education sounds very similar. they are very interested in this super respect. look, no one stood up, no one turned their back . well, this is already an incredible level of respect , in fact, for deputies or elected people, it is generally interesting to see what we have with education, and this one unfortunately, the consequence is exactly what i see in our country. people who often choose a person who, for example , will be the main person there. let them in the world understand for themselves that education is something interesting , which you know have common vectors, what is a good education is, for example, an increasingly developed, successful, happy person as a result of which he enters

the education system. unfortunately, our brothers are mentally a little broken child who does not know what he wants in life. the result of our state education system often means schools in the first place, so yes i see such interest not only in this frame , but i have already seen such funny videos when people show various people and elected officials during the speech of oksana lisovoy and someone with whom someone is talking, someone with his back, you say, did not return, i wish i had seen such videos before yes, it really showed a certain lack of interest of society in education, and here the most important question is whether okse lisovy will become a reformer or will he deal with such technical safety issues because the issue of safety is important, but here you need to understand that it is 10% of all work and 90% is himself the content of education, what mr. skarlet did not deal with, it was about what the programs would be. for example, one of the news that was also published recently was that the state service for the quality of education offers schoolchildren to develop their own curricula and submit them to the competition

. it is interesting. but it is interesting in an addition to the main already highly developed educational programs is when the literature read by children responds to certain, you know, the development of traits when a child has read a book and become more intelligent read a book and become kinder, so actually speaking, this is also not enough, very often it is left here i wanted to draw attention to this. you recently talked with vyatrovych volodymyr at a table with a deputy. he said a very good phrase . the only history book that they will read for the rest of their lives, which will affect something , it will be a history textbook , that is why your importance is the weight of the history textbook, well, it is incredibly big, this is a war for history. everyone should understand this, the russians understand this very , very well, and that's why the weight of that history textbook cannot be overestimated. i don't know, after joining nato, it's probably not

the most important snyder american historian he understands very well, that's why he comes to ukraine, and that's why they research and damage ukrainian history. another safe factor. and in our country, it seems to me that the history textbook is very inertial and has a tendency to resemble those textbooks that were published in the soviet union, and it must be , well, completely completely rewritten. it seems to be people who are the best in this. who are the best who see the vision of the new ukraine, well , it can't be like that from one side from the other side the same applies to the ukrainian language of literature , we all discussed this textbook where this guy is getting ready, boredom, boredom, this is some philologist who is actually very respected in his circles, who himself suffered from persecution under the soviet union, was a dissident and has already died, but he also has a quote about the nightingale language, that is, probably everyone has such a quote, everyone can to find a quote that doesn't really give anything and to present it out of context

we don't understand some genes huh language of the nightingale ora hello bye let 's read something about well then it's not the meanings that create that form and that's it vocal problem we have a certain problem with history, the finale in essence of this reign of scarlett in education was a wrong decision, also about the distinction of history, which was again based on the fact that they did three subjects instead of four, drove themselves into a dead end and were forced to either give up history or from the subject to although such a problem should not exist , so history was canceled and that is a big question . why is history canceled in ukraine, where there is a war, even though last year they already made it mandatory, this is a big mistake of course i am too i hope that now it will be introduced as soon as possible, at least for the next year, maybe for the 11th grade it will not be introduced, but for the 10th, that is, those who will now go to the 11th, one hundred percent need to return even closer to the format of

the external examination for four subjects and with the right to choose and with mandatory history, including ukrainian mathematics, history and a fourth optional subject. if someone wants to take something else , and maybe even we will now see the return of the discussion of the question why did they do three subjects instead of four and banavit is still march, every year in march there are some final approvals and changes in the process of conducting the external examination or multitest, so i will not be surprised if i see discussions again that let's go back and do four preds as it was all the time during the preparation of the external examination and as it should was to be this year, in such a case, we will see the return of history and i am sure that oleksandr lisov understands the importance of history because he sits in the gents and he understands well what the study of the history of his country is, as well as ukrainian literature, which is also it needs to be returned, because now, for security reasons, ukrainian literature was taken away from the ukrainian language test , now the ukrainian language is simply written, but

no one writes literature on the multitest, but they should because it is the same history of our country that shows what kind of people we are, so next year i hope also to see the return of ukrainian literature, because you know it's such a thing in skarbit, there was an exaggeration , security is very important, of course, but when everyone is still often or goes to school, everyone walks in the streets, well, that is, everyone lives. of course, this is war it's scary, but everyone can go somewhere, no one just sits in the basements, but once a year i spent an hour on the multitest , we can't allocate an extra hour because it's very dangerous, don't they just sit in the basements to sit all the time, but here they come out specifically for the multitest of course not because of that plus some time before the exams to add history to add ukrainian literature to the language, this is what we will probably see from oksana lisovoy such a decision for next year, and maybe even this year there will be some

drastic changes for three minutes in us remain. i think that we have to raise the system, we have a little time, and oksan lisovyi was found to have plagiarized in his candidate's dissertation, we understand that theoretically he did not have much time to write his dissertation, but well, that's only theoretically , and we see that there are certain borrowed texts the conclusion of the dissertation, which is already considered such an unacceptable sin in er-e notes of complete integrity let's say so, i have already paid attention more than once to what he said in us about the fact that he sends a check again if there really is it will be confirmed that there is plagiarism, then he is ready to refuse the indent, there is such a thing, it is problematic. we are all from that generation when everyone wrote off and it was necessary to perform a 14-12 m skittle and a gap and a half , so many references and what did you write there that i i remember that together with me, an important number of pages were defended with me, now my

groupmate who was defending and the head of academics who said that i will start with the fact that the entire master's thesis is completely rewritten from this book , the conclusions are taken from the preface word translated from russian by st. petersburg publishing house and the only thing i want to say is that the translation is quite bad and there are a lot of russianisms left. i recommend putting it satisfactorily. once, everyone voted silently . once, a person for christ’s master passed by. by the way, i failed the master’s in defense . yaroslav hrytsak did not start and i admit that i wrote about a third of it myself. well, then i just see. well, i was already working at work, you understand. i was already earning something, and there is such a thing , and i had to and we are not just a third is missing, it’s just a filler, it was necessary to insert a filler so that it met the requirements, i put that filler about the truth

as well, if you understand what i’m leading to , i treat it like this oksana lisova only a few paragraphs were discovered. she read something somewhere, she can even remember a certain paragraph there, remember it quite well, and then even accidentally describe it almost word for word, and look, it counts as plagiarism, but this does not mean that he really took it and wrote it down , so if it is a question of some paragraph of two there well, a small part, then this is not something that should prevent us from appointing a new, potentially good minister of education, the question here is not whether he is 99% virtuous or 100%. everything is fine if, of course, there will be half written off, while he said he would give up his dissertation . great attention will be paid to issues of academic integrity, this is also important