[000:00:00;00] but they are not the only ones who will be saved in russia's place. many of our compatriots in this coma are now unprofitable or cannot believe that it is possible to negotiate with russia because the negotiations are not at the right time . they will say that we must listen to china . money and our development. that's all. well, now let's talk with yurii , the black-headed ukrainian, the implementation of the philosopher, the sniper . he is an interesting topic. yes, he will discuss it with us. there is a sign for bmw . i apologize. congratulations, mr. yurii. please forgive them. let's talk about what, in your opinion, will happen on tuesday in the lavra. what do you think? well, the fact is that this is simply the date on which the contract is actually terminated and the terms of the year expire, and accordingly

, the eviction of the monks from the territory of the lavra will not necessarily take place on the 29th, it is possible for them to be there for a while , that is, let’s see, but i think that until the annunciation , that is, by april 6 to 7, they will move out, but the governor pavlo clearly said that they are not going to have fun. they think that the decision is illegal and they are calling on the parishioners of this church. well, i don't know whether to rebel or to support them in some way, i don't know how he addressed them there specifically , but you expect people to start gathering and protesting, well, like the processions of the cross we have every year settled well, it is clear that this is their policy, the policy of deliberate confrontation of deliberate accusations, that is, it should be said here

that well, for example, they came under the administration of the president instead of going there to the epiphany in mykhailivskii or going to the ecumenical patriarch there you can really solve their problems. and you, too. if, say, the president met without them, they would still protest and say that they didn't hear us. and now, well, they created such a picture. on monday, there will be, accordingly , some events related to the fact that the term expires, respectively. their use of the lower lavra, and they will also try to organize all kinds of protests on sunday to show that they have a huge number of people on tuesday, accordingly, organize something

grandiose, too. well, for now, thank god for the national the territory of the lower lavra is completely controlled by the police, and i think that our special services have a lot of experience in correspondingly positive opposition to any mass measures. here are such provocations. so everything will be normal in the whole world, this happens when , for example, from france, some radicals and mothers are evicted, then they are also going to there, for their support, a person is then evicted anyway, nothing terrible happens. to continue no the fact is that well, this is not the only case, yes, that is, the state approaches systematically and now similar processes are taking place in chernihiv, where the moscow patriarchate has to leave also two temples that belong to the reserve and in general, accordingly , there are already 3,000 in one way or another contracts

for the use of certain facilities on the territory of ukraine for one reason or another, they can all be terminated, further investigations by the leadership of the ukrainian orthodox church are not more diverse there, and we see, for example, yesterday at one of the checkpoints were stopped there by the ex-archbishop of paumansky, this is one of those close to antony. there are no more people , pantelima. well, now he is the archbishop of bucha , and here we remember the massacre was in bucha. the irony is that the fate of this bishop of bucha of the moscow patriarchate is there, respectively, all the correspondence that he would also go to moscow without pleasure, but he is kept there in an apartment, clothes, something else, and there is a short correspondence and , accordingly, if it were clear that these measures will

continue and we will see what the next measures are because the bishops are deprived of ukrainian citizenship must leave the territory of ukraine. these are about 15 people and accordingly, well, they will protest before this and further on. accordingly, i believe that a law will be adopted by the verkhovna rada prohibiting any kind of ties with the moscow patriarchate, and then such a critical situation will occur in general that the right not to use the temples will be lost by all the communities of the moscow patria, there are many in ukraine and it will be quite interesting. that is, they will exist, but they will not be able to use the temples, and accordingly, i consider this to be so, well, if not the only example well, for example, when in bulgaria the state tried to push the churches to unite, once the orthodox

came there, they were given two months, they did not unite, the orthodox came to the sunday liturgy, and the national police in bulgaria closed all the churches in bulgaria. in general, all of them and then quickly in a few weeks, on the second attempt, through the mediation of the patriarch, they united, that is , anything can happen and i would like the process to go . there is nothing else, that is, people really committed a huge number of violations on the territory of the lavra, all the historians there , the workers of the reserve and so on knew all this , well, not all violations were presented to them, only those that cannot be denied, and accordingly, on these grounds, they evicted further under yanukovych quite the opposite, you remember, some cultural objects were expelled from there even in

the hospital, the hospital. yes , and it was such a terrible phenomenon in general. led to the fact that, accordingly, it was possible to defend the upper bench. and so, in principle, they wanted to take away the entire upper bench for their own use, well, it was under yanukovych, it is clear that this was the maximum of such a privileged position of moscow, so the house in ukraine, but it should be said that it was also under all other presidents i.e. if we take, for example, statistics and there even for m.m. pro-ukrainian presidents, there we take yushchenko or poroshenko and look there by year to whom the most land was allocated, to whom

the most premises were transferred, then it is always the moscow patriarchate, that is, in one way or another, there was always cooperation, especially on the ground, between officials , and let's say in the moscow patriarchate. well, today, such an era has come . cultural shock, what is such a concept of responsibility, they are not used to it at all. they say that they were worried about the laurel, took care of all these possessions, but in fact , even if you take from the elements in the open there is information available that from 1988 to the 21st - this is what was checked, the nearby pechery four times faced a serious and real threat of destruction, this is not only about one of the objects, but they were allocated funds, in particular, under

yanukovych, the most, of course, 60 million hryvnias per reconstruction every time the budget was adopted, that is, it is not a small amount of money every year. and where was it spent on pavel's mercedes ? by the way, i once wrote an interview with him in his prison and there. of some last antelope e in this world, the tables are made of crocodiles and mahogany, everything is covered in gold, diamonds, and so on, i don’t even talk about the watches, his cars and his palaces, where did he come from, where did he get this money? he is a monk, he has no property, he cannot have nothing well, he used it, but it is not his property , the truth is, mr. yuriy, a monk cannot have anything, a monk cannot have anything according to church laws and canons, but

this does not mean that in reality a monk has nothing, there were investigations according to what we have the most diverse churches own the most diverse real estate there, and so on. and this applies not only to the moscow patriarchate, but also to other church structures. unfortunately, the reality is that the canons are violated, well, especially. of course, those who speak the most about the need to observe the canons there, and so on. well, that is , here the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, they are violating the cano, the largest, in particular, the process of enrichment. it is clear that a huge amount of money came not only from laundering during work on the territory of the money reserve, but a huge amount of money was found for the fact that well, for example, it cost 10,000 $ to baptize a child with vladyka pavlo, it was necessary

to donate, but many people from the end of the night baptized him with no such sorcerer, and accordingly, once again , vladyka pavlo very successfully lured money from putin's scandalous history was when, accordingly, first the state paid for the murals of the dormition cathedral in full, absolutely , and the people who painted in the cathedral were already working , he collected money for the murals of baconcha-sleep for the second time, the third time he took it away putin's money for the murals of the dormition cathedral, and accordingly, when this situation arose, lenin danilovich was in shock and simply said, "what are you

doing ?" are faced with historical responsibility and what they did with the monuments of our culture well, let's say it 's really terrible, especially let's say that closer to western ukraine, because our baroque churches were being rebuilt lubochny, these are russian domes, yes, they took them there, for example, in one of the monasteries of imna, it seems that they threw away the remains of the princes of ostrog, which, accordingly, their family tomb was just on the street, and so on, all these people, they absolutely do not deserve anything other than that that the law should be applied to them, and since, for example , in september 14, they introduced a systematic systematic information war against ukraine

, now they are using all the events around the lavra and everything that is happening again for a systematic war against ukraine on all internal and all international platforms, then accordingly people must be brought to justice, these are not some fringes, this is now the purposeful policy of their church, and everything that was achieved before the ukrainization of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine under metropolitan volodymyr was simply destroyed completely and these people are actually now on the side of the enemy, they were at least in the information war around ukraine , russian events , respectively. in charge of all this and tell the panel what do you think in general that is why metropolitan onufriy simply refused to another member of the senad out of a sense of self-preservation, i am not saying that there is some

historical role in understanding the moment, just a sense of self-preservation they could have acted completely differently and they tried to act differently imitatively why they in principle , they did not go to a real break with the moscow patriarchate, well, some agreements with constantinople of their own that would allow it to enter into the negotiation process with the ptu, why they remained russian dogmatists, i.e. when this great russian-ukrainian war began, they were wavering. we remember two facts . the first fact is that the kyiv metropolitanate formed a delegation to the fanar. the moscow patriarchate died out except for the mention of the charter of the 90th year, which is extremely important and allowed to prove that they still remain an integral part of the moscow

patriarchate and, accordingly, no matter how they waver until they met with novinsky eh and accordingly when this meeting with novinsky took place, after that a meeting was held on november 23, where they stated that there are no collaborators in the occupied territories, all those who are there in the occupied territories are all heroes and accordingly, that is, even the people who sat there in the kremlin have not been punished until now, although there is a byzantine canon, it only clearly states that if there are sands , he placed eh on the side of the barbarians who attacked your ukraine, and then he should be automatically expelled himself, even without a church court here people, accordingly, the meeting of the synod was held recently. yes, well, on the day when they went to see zelenskyi, they did not expel from the uoc, they did not punish

with sand eruptions those who were betrayed in the occupied territories, who sat in the kremlin, and the like here absolutely it is obvious that people succumbed to some persuasions of navinsky, and here it is necessary to investigate his negative role in the fact that, well, let's say at the end of last year, such a vector went to investigate the implantation of a conscious from ukraine , suddenly from the moscow patriarchate and instead of in order to break with moscow completely to the end, instead they started such an anti-ukrainian position, well, the second factor is , of course, it's just crazy, hmm, just bombing, and when metropolitan onufriy reveals who we are waiting for at the end of december, because everyone is talking about autocephaly from moscow it is impossible, it was not gathered kyiv

priests there were 500 priests , everyone says bishop, it is impossible, we humble people will wait, well, that is, it is absolutely such a stay in something that what was taught there in moscow seminaries and absolutely no vision elementary truths, how the orthodox canons are actually constructed, something else, i.e. a person. this is how he consciously enters this narrative and lives in them and acts in accordance with them. well, here it turns out that one way or another, at some stage , ukraine is an enemy along with the west, and accordingly it is those enemies with whom we have to fight, and they set us on fire, they are visionaries and we are such martyrs, and so on, and the fact that you are simply , firstly, traitors to the motherland, secondly , traitors to orthodoxy, and thirdly, just idiots,

they do not see that behind them what's up with these idiots to do because the head of the orthodox church of ukraine, metropolitan epiphany, addressed the representatives of the moscow patriarchate. i quote as a sacred archimandrite, i testify , brothers, and that all of you who follow the requirements of the canons and tomos will reject the lawless power of moscow, continue your service in the lavra, all your abilities and authority, we will be used to protect you from intimidation by the current head of the lavra, mr. yury, i wonder how we can separate out from all the representatives of the moscow patriarchate those who are not in favor русский мир for those who are not traitors to the motherland who should do the sbu polygraph maybe they should pass i don't know the fact is that the church is such a small village where everyone knows everything about everyone, that is, there is no need for any sbu here , even if it's similar and if metropolitan

phifania he, uh, well, he deliberately relies on the well-known fact that half of the brethren and lavra spoke out against vladyka pavlo a few months ago and demanded his removal, and they did it because vladyka pavlo spoke about the fact that those tanks will be in kyiv, it is not known what else it will end, you can’t argue with putin, you can’t curse him, and here the scythe came to a head because half of the brethren discovered the volochysk minute about ukraine , they have a big internal conflict, it’s clear that metropolitan epiphanius is actually addressing one side of this conflict, well, from such a clear a humane position that we are an open church, come, we will accept everyone, and he previously emphasized this more than once, therefore, in general, it comes

from this position that we are open to everyone, and no matter what, many even the kotsuls like this the position of the leadership because suddenly a gafangel will come or if someone else well, we will do, well, that is, but at least this position is declared that we are open to everyone and, in principle, we are a church for everyone, eh and whatever it is , well, for the orthodox, let's say eh there and ukrainian-speaking and russian-speaking people there and those who are there, i do not know, well, of any orientation from any position, this is such a universal christian position that we are open to everyone, and we will figure it out there, and if, well, this is a natural position, because i know some bishops who are now are kind of figures of the orthodox church of ukraine, and when they came to writing e-e from moscow

, they had god save the tsar on their ringtone, and accordingly, nothing now, these are outstanding figures of ptsu, well, if you don’t do anything here , if people really did a great job for the benefit of ukraine, and you can hope for the great what power does re-education have, what does religion have, what does ukrainian culture have , but when we are dealing with such truly pathological cases of barbarism, yes , and there is nothing to blame this culture for somehow re-educating this person, then really a moment is already coming when it remains only to see what crimes a person has committed, to arrest, to exchange for our prisoners of war, and no other benefit for ukraine will such a person bring him already, and i think the stage has come when it is necessary to do it consciously and

accordingly. books and what are they definitely? well , let's say they absolutely did not turn to them there, in particular, their priests would turn to them en masse, and what do you show about your statements about leaving the moscow patriarchate show your letters to the leaders of other orthodox churches, show documents that we are so disconnected from moscow , they didn't show anything, well, that's all, if these people already, well , let's say they have been tolerated for too long here in ukraine, each with one of them, one or another crime , which or other there are passports their or other countries and so on, that is, it is necessary to get rid of them, and this is already obvious to everyone, and then communities, er, monasteries, seminaries , epidemics will already be determined, or they will nominate leaders and self-organize, or they will

to join under this, and the psu is ready even to the point that, well, some structures , let's say, what kind of structures they have there today, so that they are stored inside the psu, according to this, he consciously says, who comes with what, he stays with those, that is, if the whole church came , then she i found a place in the architecture of the tsipts. that is, there are no such problems, let's say, that someone demands something from them, are there any preconditions or something else, well, how do christians treat them well, but i would say that even too well, i would just

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the espresso tv channel anzhelika suzhenka and vitaly portnikov, because mr. vitaliy, i suggest that it started with a letter from the republican democracy to the leader of the white house, joseph biden, they turned to the president so that he would provide additional key evidence in the crimes of the russian occupiers on our territory to the international criminal court and here it is interesting they state directly there that for some reason the usa has not yet provided this evidence. do you think there is some political component in this ? the usa has a complicated relationship with the international criminal court because they did not ratify the rome statute, even the file. they do not want american military politicians to become agents of the investigation of the international criminal court , we must understand that any country that is waging war can become an object of interest

of the international criminal court, by the way, i want to remind that ukraine also did not risk it, the roman articles gave the international criminal court the opportunity to act on our territory to conduct an investigation, but ukraine is in the same boat as the united states and russia, and not in a boat with those countries , we criticized the rome statute with missions and i understand why because i think that right now it would be extremely dangerous for questions to be raised about war crimes committed by the ukrainian military, this would lead to known excesses - we remember the case of markel which ended with the fact that it turned out that he was not guilty of anything but for how many years well, this propaganda would be russian they would use it they falsified the facts so i don't know how it will go on but it is so and it is obvious that the united states they are also cautious about this, and i believe that this appeal is absolutely logical, how ukraine provided its territory so that the international criminal court could investigate russian

war crimes on its territory, so obvious , the united states could help the criminal tribunal, it turns out like this a more populist statement on the part of parliamentarians or not well, if you don’t know your internal situation no, well, why can they calmly hand over the materials of some international criminal court this is absolutely not prohibited it’s just a matter of political will and that’s why you say biden is more careful, but parliamentarians they still want to push it, why is it before the elections , some certain ambitions, because the ukrainian issue is important, because it is simply a question of justice, a question of what, so that the russians do not have the opportunity to fight with these accusations let's give indisputable facts that are in our intelligence and everything, i'm already looking for some interests of my own in everything, why don't the democrats and republicans fight soon in the elections, eh, this is just a question of party support, the same is textbook, it's the truth of

putin's at the meeting with xidzenpin, russia is ready to come to the foreign trade meeting , we already partially discussed it today , but, well, we dealt with china, then the expert explained to us, and russia, then why is it doing this to pick up china so that it is not on its side russia the people's republic of china is a natural union, and if china can think about what will happen to its economy in the event that it really decides to go to a confrontation with taiwan, we don't know if this is true, then russia has already received everything from the west, everything that is possible, in principle, it must be said that vladimir putin was preparing for this breakup of russia's money, that there is no guarantee of its preservation anywhere, that the west is not a haven for money, that those who are unable to transfer money will not want to do it

for the bottom of their saved russian money the state does not correspond to the fact that, in principle, the russians always knew that sooner or later it will be as it is, but in the event that russia chooses this path of rupture and measures are taken to return to the model of such a soviet union light on the borders of the collapse of the russian federation, you need to understand who will then be your economic ally, well in this situation, the absolutely logical economic ally is the people's republic of china. well, if we want to abandon the dollar and the euro little by little, if we simply don't have trade there, it will decrease every year and vladimir putin, i think there are no illusions that it will be different for him and he does not need to cancel sanctions, let's say he can exchange it for the cancellation of sanctions , he does not think in this way. i would say in this perspective, he is a politician of the world revolution like