[000:00:00;00] i'll just go out and free our shrine humbly, well, you, ms. oksana , even partially pre-empted my question, because when i was re-watching the story of our journalist tsymbalenko , i had a question. of the pechersk lavra, how many islands of the ukrainian orthodox church of the russian orthodox church do we have today , well, look, statistical data , our statistics show that ukrainians are very quickly lost, so to speak , their admiration for this institution more moreover, i believe that the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate has done everything to discredit the church as an institution in ukraine in general , because people will now think very strongly whether

they are going to god or whether they are going to some commercial institution that earns money there for its leaders, because after looking at what they export, it is clear that spirituality here was very conditional and was rather a wrapper for commercial activity. this is how the russian orthodox churches of their time in in ukraine, the government gave preferences in the development of the institutional infrastructure, so we had in the communities of the ukrainian orthodox church close to the patriarchate in almost every city, a town, a village, and moreover , chapels were opened in hospitals, state institutions, this institution, this institution provided any opportunities and any of them there was a green light everywhere, and that is why this structure was built, of course, such a network throughout ukraine is very detailed, but today we have people staying in the network, we have seen that

the transitions, after all, the communities do not want belong more to the moscow church, they move to, let's say, the orthodox church of ukraine when the congregation votes and it leaves, and in this way this institution gets rid of its agromats , it develops its parishioners when people begin to understand that it is not exactly a religious sermon here, but rather a sermon of the russian world very often heard in churches and yet the russian peace is coming to us now with rockets with bars directly on our heads and on our houses, i don't know how it is possible after mariupol, after full after buchi, to still visit an institution that is involved in of the russian world on one side or another, that is why i am convinced that ukrainians should leave this institution, but there are older people and we understand that this church is for older people and those of retirement age. this church is a tradition. they are always like that, they are more traditionalist, especially this one.

it reminds me that in their youth there and so on, it was close to them and this is an emotional sermon, it is close to them very often, therefore , a number of older people will still be i think these institutions belong, but on the other hand, for example, there in conditional sat there somewhere there is a small church in western ukraine, and it is likely that this is how the clergyman works there. perhaps he is even patriotically disposed to explain to the person who goes to this clergyman that this is the church she comes to this clergyman is the uoc mp, everything is not right with her -e yes, there is an institution, there is an official position, there is an official point of view of this institution, official rhetoric , let's see, let's even open their sites, let's say yes, i always say , let's see how they assess the situation in our

mmm in our state in our country you and i are all in this situation and for us when we i will ask you what problem is the most important today about what problem to call the war of the russian federation against ukraine it is so yes but if you look at the site for example, or on the rhetoric of this institution or all the relevant institutions , that is, for them, what will be the biggest problem today in ukraine, what is the ukrainian government that persecutes their church ? here, the enemy for them is not the one who kills ukrainians today, tortures ukrainians, destroys ukrainians, and the enemy is the ukrainian government and the ukrainian state, and this disposition absolutely contradicts the true identity of a modern ukrainian, because you and i are in concrete events, we empathize with them, and we

are involved in of these events in a certain perspective . today we are more consolidated than ever because we understand that we either do together and will be ours , our ukraine will prosper or we will lose the state and our personal life and our the future and its history and its inspiration, therefore, of course, the ukrainian people feel it all. yes, we are ready to fight the aggressor instead, as i already told you, this institution forms a completely different position. and if they talk about the need for a model of ukrainian behavior, then it is a model of behavior to tolerate pray pray endure yes this is the model of the victimized victims , that is, they do not consolidate us to protect the state, they do not consolidate to protect their lives, that is , the life given by god and implemented specifically in this historical period in ukraine and on the contrary, they teach us that if it is not important, it is not important and ukraine itself is unimportant, our life is unimportant, yes, they talk about

peace, about the need to form peace, and to pray in such a prayer position, a certificate , well, this is not orthodoxy, you know that the russian world, but ms. oksana is summarizing in a certain way, returning to your opinion about neutralization, well, in the sense of the lack of access to platforms , yes, the promotion of any ideas of certain leaders of the upcnp, how to carry out this neutralization? well, it is our country we are not a democratic russia, but a totalitarian state and everyone has the right to express their opinion, and any clergyman also has the right to express his opinion within the limits of ukrainian legislation.

mp, so that there is no continuation of the seedlings of the russian world in our country, well, look at me as a local scholar, i have my own recipe, but it is not a master recipe, but i will say that first of all, i would, for example, prove that this institution is not a religious institution, it is lost its religious function when it began to promote the russian world, that is, it is a propaganda institution, it is its main function, it promotes an ideology hostile to the ukrainian state, or teaches ukrainians to accept and be subordinate to this ideology, that is, here, first of all, i would leave this side, but from on the other hand, let's imagine for a second that now i will start calling on your viewers, our viewers, to overthrow the regime in ukraine, well, if you were to do this, you would turn off the air, of course, and

not give me the opportunity to formulate my thoughts later, but during the sermons, well, the priests of this institution talk about peace, well, they allow themselves to say that there, kyiv’s own people are chasing god , they will bring them there to kiev , yes, the calypse begins now, the apocalypse exists, and so on and so on. citizens of ukraine against the ukrainian state against the ukrainian government i believe that such sermons should be stopped thank you, i love you, let there be critical thinking. thank you very much. of the institute of philosophy of the national academy of sciences, she explained to us some aspects of religious life, we are moving on, gallows, executions, executions, suicides in world history, even recent, on every continent , there were and are dictatorial regimes, some with a vivid

personification, no less, er, er, uncut ending, nowadays they even say that putin has all chances to repeat the story of gaddafi , the publicly executed libyan autocrat , and they say about it their own, and nabrykovo remembered how dictators of various stripes ended their lives, because in history you can not only to enter, but as they say in slapping, he fulfilled his dream and became an artist, that is what they say about adolf hitler , he remained in history as one of the most cruel ambitious dictators, if you vote for the national socialists with tones of her for two or three months, how will this terror be stopped to start how turned out to be more massive shortly after this speech, hitler was appointed chancellor of germany, then a process was launched that irrevocably changed world history, this is a world war of dozens of nations, the destruction

of many countries, a person who believed in property, biological dogmas, and it was enough. let’s say we got used to it in order to put them into practice. the regime of the german filler mercilessly killed about 6 million jews, sheltered millions of so-called gundermench and killed more than 19 million civilians and prisoners of war during the second world war, but all of them in particular and henchmen together and the end of the fuhrer while there is hitler, there is also germany. but in the system, despite a few dozen attempts of their own , but on april 30, 1945, when the troops of the soviet army had already stormed the reichstag, that utürbunkers nearby, he took upon himself the fear of being captured so that he would be put in a cage and transported as he himself said that if i was caught, especially by the soviet union, then me well, stalin , they would put me in a cage, they would take me around the squares and show everyone look, we caught him , we will punish him, we will mock him. that is why

there is a post of nazi people in front of the nuremberg tribunal. however, history knows a dictator who was reprimanded for genocide, crimes against humanity and the laws and customs of warfare. its weak president slobodan milosevic. i recognize this tribunal as a farce. milosevic was handed over in 2001, and the local government did it, thereby legalizing the tribunal against the former yugoslavia at the expense of milosevic. the genocide of bosnian muslims and croats. the same mass executions in serebrine , the creation of about fifty concentration camps and the forced resettlement of a quarter of a million people . war crimes in kosovo , more than 300,000 people became victims of his actions, another two and a half million lost their homes , we can draw certain parallels that in that time, in fact, serbia was for the balkans the same as russia for the post-soviet space, that is, an organization or a state organization that tried to extend

its own influence to restore its influence on the former territory of this empire, in this case the socialist federal republic of yugoslavia. however, he did not live to die in a cell in in march 2006 , he did not live to be brought to court, despite the issued arrest warrant, and the libyan dictator muammar dafi executed him especially brutally rebels just on the street before that gaddafi 42 for years he ruled libya from among the titles, the fraternal leader and the leader of the original great revolution of the socialist people's lviv arab jamahiriya, the eccentric dictator was involved in not all conflicts in africa and the middle east, he brutally attacked the kodum people in gaddafi's house, there were sofas made of pure gold, and for playing on the outside public for me, it's an honor to receive you bidonsky tents in february 2011 , protests swept through libya, and the bigger the government suppressed them, the more they grew, as already in march

turn into a real civil war then. actually, during gaddafi's attempt to escape, the rebels who hated both the regime and the dictator personally got to him. when they got the opportunity to take revenge on him personally, they used this opportunity to happen. a similar story happened in the post-soviet space. let's remember ceausescu and his wife, who were detained. there. was held well, it seems that a short trial was held there , well, it is difficult to call it a trial, and they were also shot very quickly, and the russian dictator valentin happened, of course there were and are dictators who they live to a very old age and even pass on power as an inheritance, but in the end even putin's idol joseph stalin died because they did not dare to save him or maybe they didn't want to anna brikova we - ukraine marathon the only news is not all that clear here it is more clear that more than three dozen russian diplomats are planning send germany and this

was reported by the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of germany, elena berk. all of them covered themselves with diplomatic passports and tried to recruit agents . they planned to conduct information campaigns and also arrange sabotage in the military sphere in berlin, they are convinced that the russian agent network in germany has more than one and a half hundred officers, all these representatives of the russian special services work in embassies in various cities in germany, now dmytro levus is in direct contact with a political scientist from the international topics, let's probably start p dmytro, our congratulations to you, we congratulate you, i congratulate you , please tell us about our international partners, well , germany, including the day of all countries of the european union and not only there is a clear understanding of how extensive the russian federation's agent network is in their country and whether they are able

to remove or neutralize this agent network there diplomatically or in any other way and whether they are interested in this because russia it seems that every country that expels their diplomats will act in a mirror manner. i think that the understanding of how deeply the russian special services have penetrated into the lives of european countries is currently in the west regarding the possibility of eradicating this agency. networks, well, look here, you can remember the history of, yes, despite all the successes of the intelligence control of nazi germany . until the end of the war, they operated on its territory with a more or less degree

of effectiveness there have always been networks of allies, more successful western allies, and much less successful soviet ones, although i will sell a film about skhirli, it supposedly gives other ideas, well, this is not entirely true, but all kinds of networks are there, like there is a red bastard although they bought or smart but something always remained for now of course, it can be much more successful, because after all , the world has changed a little, the conditions of communication have changed a little . well, i think that this awareness is also present here, and it also somehow affects e-e, not necessarily everything that works does not work, it is unknown to the special services of e-e

countries where this network is located and sometimes it is easier for the special services to leave some e- e share some network knowing that it works under control than to cut it down completely, all the more if knowing that it is not because of this that they will suffer, well, their real opportunities in russia itself, yes, that is, the russians, well , they expel spies, and then they expel anyone else in response. we have already seen this, for example, well we saw real information about this on the examples of even those actions when the czech republic acted not so long ago, expelling there and several other examples, so i think that uh, control more or less some kind of state, yes , our partners are capable and now awareness after 2014 that there are more than 24

in february 2022, it definitely appeared p dmytro well, you already mentioned the scandals and high diplomats like we just said there from germany from the czech republic and there was also information that they are all flocking to serbia now . please tell me your opinion or will have this fact has some consequences for this country. i am referring to serbia in the sense of, for example, its prospects for joining the european union. european integration and uh, considering how uh, serbia is currently reacting, uh, on the official heart, that is , actually, the mood in the country itself may be

very pro-russian, but in fact, we see that in view of the fact that, uh, well, the chosen strategy of joining the of the european union, and because of this they are already announcing that they are joining the sanctions and pursuing a different policy, so i think that , uh, serbia well , mykola should listen to these tips, gentlemen . ah, after this one last year a raid, so to speak, by russian diplomats with a mass expulsion from various eu countries, they intensified the exchange of information about certain russians with diplomatic passports so that they do not settle in other countries after being deported there from other countries. sorry for the tautology. and this what did they do to enable the development of spy networks or their restoration ? and what do you think

the european diplomats haven't done yet? well, if in the fight against espionage, yes, with russian espionage, that's right. well, it's hard to say. these they will not necessarily have actions, well, they should be in a field that is open to the public, maybe not all actions are talking about them, but as for me, i think that hmm , it is possible here as much for diplomats as, in general, about the offices of western european and well, a united europe, so here we had to fight about much more er, well, first of all, about publicity in the investigations of those actions that er and the damage that the russian special services caused in the first place that their purely terrorist acts such as for example there is

the murder of an oppositionist and the murder of khangashvili yes, that is, here these are of such a plan of history, here i think eh hmm they could be much tougher and much more informative mr. dmitri here is this one in such a section eh we often hear the word russian spy eh no less often we hear the phrase russian lobby, is it possible to put an equal sign here , please explain to our viewers and the most important question that comes out of this how much has the russian lobby suffered in the last year and how quickly it can at least theoretically recover, well , usually yes noobs happen in any countries and in

including the concept of soft power. it wasn't the russians who invented that either , that is, and eh, well, eh, after all , there is also the concept of francophone. this is normal, it should be the only thing that russia uses it in its own way, yes, in a completely different way, when uh, at the very beginning of the war , somewhere for a few months, there, somewhere for the second month , he did not go, uh, the director of the hermitage, petrovsky , talks about that that we are a cultural special forces there, yes, and ours all the events that take place in europe, the hermitage exhibitions, these are precisely our events, such as those with army operations, then here and here

, er , here the question arises. culture through cooperation, through other similar things, so, in principle, it is so unambiguous to put it in history, regarding the fact that lobo is a pro-russian lobby and, uh, an agency, or it probably shouldn’t be here. yes, but uh, in fact, we see that uh, in the case of russia, it's not absolutely yes if even uh well, sincere people who are in europe in which europe is full of people who are really there for russian culture or in some business spheres, they do not realize that

they are agents. so uh, russia definitely perceives this uh in a different way, there are several reasons, one of the reasons is that this is a russian point of abuse, yes, that is, it is in the russian special services for them to tell about the fact that so-and-so is the deputy minister or so- and-so is the professor there by our agents there to write off on him there spending money er, this is a completely normal thing, although in fact this person may be a sincere russophile, he may even receive some kind of gift there or go to russia once at their expense, but he may just be there with a common mouth yes you can't shout and cry out for russia there. you can't touch

them. that's why it's so . in the case of russia, everything is much more complicated. and it's much closer. russian pro-russian lobby in any country. the concept is approaching precisely to the concept of the simple, banal agency of dmytro, and let's focus on putin and his henchmen, he is now not proud of the brand of the suspect after the arrest warrant issued by the international criminal court, the country of the russian federation is not proud of the brand of the sponsoring state e-e terrorism e and vices of the european parliament of the united states, tell me purely theoretically, what other branding on the diplomatic level is possible in relation to putin in relation to his regime or

in relation to the russian federation and the second question in addition to this, potential new brandings will have some diplomatic , political, and legal consequences. is this so only so that we officially call him a dictator there, and we officially put racism on the same shelf as fascism ? i remembered the most vivid branding done by kharkiv fans in 2014. it is the loudest, strongest, yes, very good . yes, by the way, it is direct . there is even an article about this in wikipedia well, i think that branding actually makes sense, because, well, considering that ukraine is in the beginning of aggression , we are open in this communication with the world, which was also led by president

zelensky when he, well, well, in the world, still there was no unequivocal opinion, but there was already talk about the fact that russia is a terrorist country, and russia is an aggressor country , and it is an aggressor country, and it was absolutely clearly used in ukrainian official communication . and the un with ot in this communication of the president with various by the way environments absolutely it is, and in the end it made sense, especially since well, we knew that it would be supported by real, real components, that is, after, and before the russians were expelled from the territory of kyiv region and bucha was opened, and that is, this is it it really happened and er, i think it is possible that

there will be other taggings, you know, i would not have written here yet, that is, lying, why, because here, well, er, here, in view of the cording, as usual, this word carries here these are fair things , but i think that it will probably be discussed there russia as a child abductor, yes, that is, all the more so, and this is something that should be used, especially since in fact there is already a warrant for putin’s arrest, and there is one of his henchmen, lviv and billova, by the way. uh, well, which ones are, yes, which ones are. that is, they are fair, by the way, what should still be used . perhaps there will also be some russia, a country , a nuclear terrorist, given that russia is currently a blackmailer. well, she used to blackmail, but now there is a new one. the cycle of

blackmail and nuclear weapons now it is more concrete what should be used about what should be said about the violation of russia, for example, for example, this convention on the fight against nuclear terrorism, yes, that is, everything that i think. and there are prospects here, and by the way, it will be dmytro's plans. we thank you very much for the answers dmytro levuch, a political scientist among the people, answered our questions, the marathon, the only news, continues. thank you for staying

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