[000:00:00;00] look at him, people are lying dead, as it is customary to hide people, it was necessary to communicate with them, you do not understand what is happening at all, it was an information vacuum in which you wanted to believe every piece of news, someone said that armageddon is already on planet earth and that we have it more flowers, everyone is already fighting with nuclear weapons, someone came, you said that the russians have already taken over the whole of ukraine and are already advancing into poland, we were russian radio stations , the news was going non-stop and every 15 minutes

they were telling this and that and that message voice robot surrender come ukrainian military surrender everything has already been taken over march 16 a russian plane dropped 2,500 kg of bombs on the mariupol drama theater in the basement of which there were about a thousand people more than 600 civilians were killed the explosion was so strong that everyone jumped on the floor lying on the floor and jumped everyone, there was such a strong explosion , then we found out that there was a drama theater, so we were ok. nothing. we looked at the city. the thing is that the youth pc is located on a small there was black smoke all the time on such a hill and above our area, but i couldn’t believe it, and then i found out that it was our houses that were burning . they were burning around the clock, and we were already thinking about

the fact that we need to gather and go out. according to rumors , the way to the territory under the control of the government of ukraine lay through the village of melekine has already spread the news that people are leaving. it was terrifying. this is the threat of shooting cars. cars are even more dangerous than walking. many people just left on foot. someone was already leaving mariupol. someone was leaving in groups. melekino went out. we also had such conversations, but my wife's mother was with us after the operation. a person of our age did not dare to make such a long crossing because there was about 40 km on foot. it was march 20. we went to bed.

the entrance door to our dressing room, this suit turned nice, and they all jumped up. then she shouted even better . there is no door. there is no heat. now there is no heat . everything is dusty. we are dusty and we understand that we have already arrived. mother is pulling names into the building. he says, where are my demits, where did they grab my alarming suitcase bag with documents, they grabbed the cat, the child is already in my arms. here i am holding it, and they understood that we need to go down to the storage room , there are already places in the storage room, the boys also took some of their bags and grabbed them, and my husband decided on the bags rearrange in some other room more reliably, i tell him blogs with them with these bags , we don't need them, no, i'll put them, i'll put them now , and i'll come back, we go down to the storage room, it's dark , i can't see anything, i'm sitting and waiting for my

husband to come, they went to put the bags he still two guys, we were going up to the second floor and at that very moment a rocket flew into the first floor, a fly only saw a flash and then it was very scary, we were scared and we are looking 5 minutes no 7 minutes no 9 minutes no we are already just sitting on panivka thinking that to do i sit and pray i sit and pray i sit at home if my father doesn't come when i regain consciousness i call out to no one around there is no one around scattered us so well we were walking next to each other and it turned out one flew there the other there i went somewhere else well this time i checked it was fine the leg was

twisted well you could then he runs into us such joy, we just run to hug him, everything is like that, he came covered in dust, his jacket is cut. he is standing, but he is alive, he says everything is fine. but as i understand it, i was concussed. he could even stand on the moss, it was scary, and then it hurt. because she got sick, it hurt like hell, she was so swollen that the swelling did not even fit into her shoes. the chubarov family, on the third day, our cat began to scream frantically and make noises. and so, in the morning, for no reason, for no reason, he didn't agree, he sat quietly in this storage room in

his cage all the time, he just ran, he couldn't, he just got out, he scratched, he plowed and it turns out that at this time the roof of our building was already on fire. maybe he smelled haru . i don't know. animals sense better than we do. we are burning. ours flew in, igniting a projectile, and the building is big, the old roof is huge, it's on fire, it 's on fire, it's a riot, two, four, and the fifth was he is hot-tempered again, they tell us, we are burning, life is igniting in the basement, all this is smoke, soot, and even if you are in the basement , you will either suffocate or go out into the street, well , you have to be shot, or try to survive or die, 50 to 50 was scary all the time, but all the time it is in a state

of fear you really understand that you have to go somewhere or there was nowhere else to stop, wait for death or run until the feeling that everything inside you is squeezed by a moose, because of which you will die in mariupol for sure and so you had a chance to survive , stay was already impossible as if all the buildings were destroyed, the left bank of mariupol, where nikita lived, was captured by russian troops in the basement, the supplies of water and food ran out, nikita came to the conclusion that the only chance to survive was to escape and i followed the last two suitcases , my family was already sitting in the car, we had to evacuate, i leave the basement and i look at how all the people start to run away and they start shooting just in the legs. it was a state when you understand that you will either die now or come out death or life. at that moment

, everything inside me was raging, i understood that this little the distance in kilometers will play a key role, please, i am asking you, no, just look a little bit, look directly at the shards, i took responsibility for my family, these are 4 women and three small children, nikita and his family were in the filtration camp of the occupiers for two weeks, then through russia they reached germany in this at the time of chubarova, they believed that if they could get to the village of lelekyne and get on the evacuation bus, they would be safe , but that meant walking 36 km through the occupied territory

. let's go to the destroyed city, it's not that the car couldn't drive there, there was no place to set foot on, everything was in ruins there, someone was covered , someone was lying there, someone was covered, a corpse was lying on the benches, people were carrying out the wounded with shrapnel , they buried them, or as we walked, i told him don't look there, don't look there don't look there don't look anywhere let's just go let's go we walked as slowly as we could the little one walked with bags a cat in a cage my mother is 60 years old she said leave me i will go there to where we used to live i will go to this apartment and i will stay there and i say where are you going, it is impossible to even walk there, she said no, i will not go leave me here, you could look at those - only under your feet, and it was really important because

after all, shrapnel and projectiles were on the ground, too, and you, how about 36 km and never don't lag behind if you need to stop don't stop quietly but say i need a stop and we stopped we were standing it's a pity for pets they run and look into the eyes they must have thrown or killed people i don't know but you won't take it with you you go first you see the military but you don't understand what it's the military you're looking at they have yellow bandages on their hands and you breathe out, thank god, and they saw us and stopped and said they want to leave the mother and son and i will put them in the passing cars because they will not reach melekino, they would not take the grandmother herself , but the grandmother definitely not i was able to reach it myself, i took out the birth certificate and put it in his bag. keep your documents. son

, you will be able to get out of the surrounded mariupol. there were russians, we had registrations in donetsk , and they are somehow so possible that it is cheaper or why are you here? why are you not there? because there is no work there, but here there is . that's it. turn on the phone. it was all decided not to charge them, so as soon as we arrived at the checkpoint, i immediately put the phone on charge and kept it in my hands the whole time i was walking, waiting for them to call, and my grandmother and i already

had molecules when we arrived. well, we arrived somewhere in 30 we call for a few minutes, my mother picks up the phone, and she just breathed out. they have already arrived, of course, people are close to them, there are only 40 km , maybe even less. we reached seven . because when we arrived in berdyansk, the evacuation convoys stopped coming there, the place of assembly for the evacuation had changed, the ukrainian authorities, with the support of businesses and volunteers, took people out of the suburbs of berdyansk. we took

a taxi and went outside the city with nadia to leave for to this humanitarian colony, we arrive at this ring, how did it turn out that several hundred people were alive and they had been waiting for a bus for a week somewhere , so it was then one of the largest evacuation convoys from berdyansk to zaporizhzhia, the evening seemed to have arrived. we boarded the bus and arrived in zaporizhzhia on the night of april 1 there was even hot water, they went to sleep on the bed , not the floor, but on the bed, it’s such a happiness to sleep on a bed. mykyta turns out to be in germany. as a volunteer, he helped hundreds of refugees, and in the fall of 2022, he returned to ukraine. i understood that it was not

the most that i can do. i have to help people directly, those who are in the frontline cities here in ukraine, i no longer have a house, an apartment, my things, which i have earned . i feel more sorry for people than an apartment. were about a nice house, a car, an expensive business, now it is important for you to see the smile of loved ones and enjoy your life and look, for example, at the same sun , it is banal because in the past life, when there was no such hell, you did not eat this cake spilled this glass of wine didn't wear the dress i wanted to wear and in mariupol i thought durepa should eat

drink dress walk walk meet chubarovyh came to the capital of free ukraine and joined charity projects that support the people of mariupol

, we continue our broadcast at 11:45 a.m. we add valentina nalivaichenko to the broadcast, welcome everyone we continue the information and analytical marathons together with our guest mr. valentina, we congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine and former ambassador of ukraine to belarus , valentin nalyvaichenko, with us, you can start not with belarus, this is an important topic, nuclear weapons, but also an equally important topic, this is the moscow patriarchate in in ukraine, we already spoke yesterday , a farewell service was held in the lavra, after which the russian priests . churches. but along with this, a message came today from the united nations organization, which is also interested in the religious situation in ukraine, and there they believe that the searches that took place the day before in the uoc at the very mp may have

a discriminatory nature. of the high commissioner for human rights believes that the searches of the buildings of the uoc mp by ukrainian security forces may have a discriminatory nature, they recalled that in various cities of ukraine the sbu conducted searches of monasteries, offices and educational institutions owned by the uoc mp according to the organization of the respected united nations, in some cases the secret service officers interrogated clerics and with the use of a polygraph, which , according to the un, is clearly an encroachment on some of the rights of parishioners of the uoc mp. nature and reminds of the need to ensure that all persons facing criminal charges enjoy the full range of rights to a fair trial what do you think about this un statement, we all understand with you. that in the un security council

until now, russia is an aggressor country, a country that has attacked and is carrying out aggression against us , is committing genocide on our territory, it does not surprise me and professional diplomats that the un bodies are so bureaucratic, including this humanitarian commission, they give such conclusions that they are 70 percent dictated by the russians. that is why we and we in ukraine, i mean, must take up and defend our position , the first thing is that during the war state due to russian aggression, we protect our territory, including our religious buildings and our parishioners from agents of the russian federation, the chinese fsb, who helped and continue to help russian aggression, including up to participation in crimes when terrorist russian missiles are directed at our e cities and villages

, this is the first, the second is the ukrainian position. i think the un should be active also because every day from ukraine we can and should provide the facts of such criminal activities of agents in robes, especially of the russian church, which threaten our national security and to provide every day to all the countries of the un security council in all languages, and this should be done by the sbu and the ministry of justice, by the way, in the 14th year, i did that, i made translations then and transmitted every night according to our time and there was a day in new york, and at that time the permanent representative of ukraine at the un , mr. serhiyiv, was speaking in english, where the evidence is specific to the criminal and aggressive activities of russia, then i think that now is the time to do so, and the third and most important thing is also inside the country we need to say clearly to the outside. yes, we are doing everything possible to have a single

local ukrainian church within this territory of ukraine. you may have more sources of information simply for well, as some sources of information from that camp reported that they had previously received instructions from the clergy of the uoc mp the kremlin should leave the lavra, take all its eights, later the team was different , stay and hold on to the property and for the ukrainian lavra to the last, what will happen after the 29th of the day h what do you think after march 29 the ukrainian lavra, including the kyiv-pechersk lavra, was ukrainian and will be ukrainian . i remind you that there are five laurels in ukraine and all of them are the property of the state of ukraine. therefore, they are cultural buildings under the protection of unicef, under the protection of ukrainian legislation and exclusively by the ukrainian government.

has the right to decide to whom this or that lavra is leased to whom no, i think so, and we in the parliament will definitely insist and even i am in favor of voting and passing a law by which the kyiv-pechersk lavra and other lavras the only local churches of ukraine should be handed over to valentina about nuclear weapons and belarus ukraine demands to convene the security council of the united nations precisely because of putin's intention to deploy nuclear weapons in belarus well, danilovu already called it a hostage there because the cream took belarus into nuclear hostages. how do you see this story? why has this nuclear rhetoric become active again ? and why exactly from belarus? i think that putin is now declaring that he will deploy tactical nuclear

weapons on the territory of belarus and with his crews and their military, this means that both the bakhmut direction and the avdiiv and other armed forces of ukraine have broken the backbone of the offensive of the russian federation and once again putin is grabbing the nuclear stick and trying to intimidate the whole world. missiles were removed from the territory of belarus in 1996 , but think about it 27 years ago, international efforts, including the un, and belarus and russia were forced to remove tactical nuclear missiles completely from the territory of belarus now putin didn't just announce, he violated all international rules and agreements and agreements, nuclear weapons are fully distributed and all these, you know, his words that he allegedly will not hand them over, but will bring them and there will be russian crews. well, what does that change? by the way, for

the belarusians themselves means that now they and their territory are also the target for the destruction of the nuclear threat for the destruction of these tactical nuclear missiles, that is, putin essentially endangered the lives of the belarusians themselves, and who he threatens with these tactical nuclear missiles by missiles, putin is meant. well, it is clear that in ukraine it is clear that we, and this is near our border, now another new nuclear threat is appearing with iskander missiles, russian missiles with a range of up to 500 km for us, for ukraine, it is so important to say even now that russia and to achieve not a place in the un security council, but this is an international event. it does not solve much on the battlefield and does not protect much, if missile regiments appear on the territory of belarus, but for us, security and defense

measures. long-range missiles are needed, place them along the border with belarus and clearly prepare to neutralize and destroy tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of the aggressor. and if the aggressor places them on the territory of the co-aggressor, then on the territory of the co-aggressor , lukashenko and putin should know that ukraine , together with its allies, in the case of placing such missiles is preparing to destroy them and would defend itself, valentine, are you satisfied with the reaction of the united states, john kirby, the adviser and the spokesman of the national security council, said that the united states does not yet see any signs of movement by russia of nuclear weapons to neighboring belarus or any other well, in principle, everything he said is very concise, you know, he voiced it well , that's why so far there is no real movement on the satellites, precisely the standard missiles, but we see and know that, for example, up to 10

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