[000:00:00;00] which he then made two days ago about the fact that on the territory of belarus he will place there will be a warehouse that will have nuclear weapons and that there will be some iskanders who can deliver these weapons to where they need to be delivered, so in the few minutes that are left, i only have to sum up your voting on the channel is on youtube, oh, married now, few people are watching 609, it's a pity, and 152 people voted for the question i asked, putin's statement about the nuclear weapons of belarus is a threat to ukraine, a threat to the west , your option is, yes, it is a threat to the west 78% consider it a threat to ukraine 16 and your option 7% your option can be read later well that's all for me today in the sweet program during the war they talked about the most important things that happened during the past

week and tried to look into the future no that's all for me see you next week, but you don't switch because our broadcast continues my colleague serhii rudenko and his cost i congratulate serhii and i say to you yurii congratulations thank you literally in a few seconds we start the verdict glory to ukraine this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all. today, march 27, is the 397th day of the ukrainian people's heroic resistance to the russian invaders. troytskyi district of luhansk region to the morgue of the central district hospital over the past day , about 10 articles of the russian

occupiers in the temporarily captured melitopol of the zaporizhia region were delivered this morning near barracks rang out several explosions, in addition, the car of one of the commanders of the occupiers exploded in the temporarily occupied mariupol russian troops continue to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of march 27 i have already lost 171,160 people in ukraine in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 610 orks initially of the great war , the russians have already lost 3,595 tanks , 6,953 armored fighting vehicles, 2,638 artillery systems, 523 rocket launchers , 277 air

defense systems, 305 aircraft, 291 helicopters, 5,493 units of automotive equipment 18 ships boats 907 cruise missiles 2 2016 drones 285 units of special equipment nuclear weapons in belarus why didn't everyone call zelenskiy and the security council of the un will soon be under the control of the russian federation or rather under the presidency of the russian federation we will talk about this for the next hour i want to introduce today's guest - this is a politician-diplomat, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019, pavlo klimkin, mr. pavlo, good day, good health to you, and i am glad that you joined our broadcast. greetings greetings to serhiy, friends, i am always happy to be with you. thank you, mr. pavla. it is always a pleasure to communicate with you and talk about international politics, uh, because ukraine is the place where this international

policy is actually being created. all the more so, let's start with vladimir putin's statements about what russia will place tactical nuclear weapons in belarus, in an interview with one of the central channels of russia, putin said that in belarus aircraft are being converted, he named the number of 10 of these planes, they deliver a missile system from kandera, which can, among other things, carry nuclear warheads and the construction of a storage facility on the territory of the republic of belarus should be completed by the first of july, putin says putin has done everything he asked lukashenko, let's hear putin we have already helped our belarusian kalinin and

re-equip their planes an effective complex from kanter and it can also be a carrier of e the territory of belarus so that uh, that's all that the president of belarus asked for all the questions that are implemented in this communication, and everything that was agreed upon , mr. pavel's cousin, how uh, the transfer of tactical nuclear weapons by russia on the territory of belarus changes the balance of power in europe and the world and what does this mean, including

for ukraine, this means that putin and most likely he discussed with the chinese leader xi jinping is ready to further test the red lines of the west it is also obvious that this placement will be a violation of who in the form of how this is what putin says about all the fundamental principles of non-proliferation. please note that putin is not talking about the use of russian aircraft that can be based on the territory of belarus, but he is talking about the aircraft, specifically belarusian aircraft of the belarusian air force and even the very fact of converting such aircraft and then it is possible

the use of training, they will set fundamental challenges, a fundamental violation of the non-proliferation regime, this must be clearly understood. putin understands perfectly well that he needs to raise the stakes and continue to frighten europe, er, combined tripod, he does not particularly intimidate there, but he needs at least such psychological levers, and he also understands this very well. he understands that the moment is possible placement, which, most likely , will not be announced somewhere, he does not specifically postpone the summer. he wants to feel on the same level with the united states, he uh constantly says yes, the united

states, they are still moving nuclear weapons in europe for russian tactical nuclear weapons . to repel, of course, in quotation marks, the conventional nato copper, now after our war, it is clear that the conventional potential of russia is far from what putin has always presented , and the chinese, who learn, unfortunately, of course, from our war, and this means that we need an answer. i mean us as in ukraine, but first of all as an event. i believe that this

placement is also planned for vilnius and the nato summit, and it is also obvious that at the vilnius summit nato should announce about a new strategy, a new concept of deterring russia, will everything be ready, the concept in that i have doubts, but it is clear about the development of the concept, this concept should still be developed after putin suspended russia's participation in the treaty on the reduction of strategic offensive weapons well , the main thing is to put a full stop here but this is the main real point in this story, we have to be part of the future policy of deterrence , including nato's nuclear deterrence against russia, and after

the plans appeared in belarus well, so far they have not implemented but nevertheless, the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons is absolutely obvious, without us being part of such a strategy of such a doctrine of nuclear deterrence of russia, we cannot ensure our security including nato member countries, to the point that ukraine should become a member of the north atlantic alliance in the shortest possible time, because in this situation, for ukraine , there is simply no other way out. mr. sergey, it is absolutely obvious that this is the only way for us, and i really do not believe in any security guarantees other than nato membership or a nuclear umbrella as an intermediate intermediate

decision from the united states on the way to nato membership. to be immediate nato membership, but putin's idea is exactly the opposite, it is to test the western solidarity and by trying to give putin this goat and postpone the decision on accepting us into nato and now of course it is very important talk not with emotions but with arguments about what the future strategy of deterrence should look like. what should the future strategy of strategic weakening of russia look like? here , of course, it is not about emotions, but about security, and

when putin starts to intimidate, we must first of all be united with the west, and then the second is to speak with hard arguments. i believe that you can talk with putin and russia only from a position of strength. no other conversation with them works. the self-proclaimed president of belarus lukashenko says that the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of the republic of belarus, this is not nuclear blackmail, he added, this is the decision of the president of belarus, and he asked putin to place nuclear weapons on the territory of his republic, and it is obvious that lukashenko is preparing for poland's mirror response, but it is also obvious that belarus is now turning into a large military training ground and now in the future there is already a nuclear training ground for the russian federation , we will hear lukashenka i'm just letting you down in

the last negotiation with the president of russia nuclear blackmail we are nobody with the president of russia we are not going to blackmail you especially with nuclear weapons, but i want to emphasize the sentence once again, and this topic with the president of russia appeared right away, because the poles probably did not pay attention. the last time we turned to the americans and asked them to bring nuclear weapons to poland, when the president of putin said, well, we what are we doing ? what are we doing

? nothing is happening. and for russia, it is a weapon of deterrence, this is how he says the mirror that they turn over now and constantly say. putin talks about what you look at, how western europe, together with japan, is repeating the 1930s and creating this axis of evil there, fascist germany, where the nazis were in both germany and japan. is lukashenko deliberately playing a fool in this situation, or does he sincerely believe that for poland and for nato countries, belarus is the place where the north wants to go? the atlantic alliance is on its way. the north atlantic alliance wants to use nuclear power weapons, i will of course try to answer, but the best answer is to once again show the faces of those who listen to lukashenko

in this hall, from the expression on their faces, in my opinion , everything is so clear that there is nowhere to go, but lukashenko understands everything perfectly. he wants to become necessary for putin he wants to become necessary for china in the sense that for china, when talks begin about containing china globally he wants to be necessary , he wants to test these red lines, he wants to create problems he wants these problems to be answered then he you and if he is in the game means that he is needed and can continue to remain in power, that is, the whole logic of lukashenko, a person who is absolutely clinical and believes in nothing but himself, is that let's help me retain power

let's make it so that he is useful to someone again the story is about this, there is no big policy, security policy, risk analysis, er, doctrinal approach, this is lukashenko's desire to stay in power , period, nothing more, by the way, lukashenko is trying to convince belarusians that he does not bend to putin and belarus unoccupied says that he is being pulled by this. he lives, but he does not give up. he decides everything himself . we will hear from lukashenka again. well, if someone thinks and often subscribes to this.

on foot in belarus and everything is solved, they now use all kinds of methods and principles to fight with us, they know my character, what can i know like that in the village language , they will immediately wave it off and they will try to pull me out of the living room, lukashenko is no longer there he does not accept the decision, remember, not one step into belarus, especially today, is not done without the consent and demands of president lukashenko, so it will be. while i am the president, that is, mr. pavla . if you listen to lukashenko, lukashenko simply signed and said that he is a co-aggressor of putin he will not refuse this status and what charges will be brought against him because, well, in principle, he said that no step taken by putin or putin's

army on the territory of belarus is done without his well-known eh, against the background of the story with the arrest warrant from the international criminal court against putin, it is clear that it was about the abduction of ukrainian children, but still , why are the corresponding or let's say similar accusations and similar similar steps not touching lukashenka when he admits that everything what is happening at his uh-huh-huh military base of the russian federation is in charge of everything, he means the self-proclaimed president of belarus, and nuclear weapons for him are actually also protection, he perfectly understands that at some point his

they will get it in a different way. he is asking for nuclear weapons in order to feel better. the only problem is that if putin wants it or someone who will be after putin, he will drop it in one second, if not shorter, since nuclear weapons are tactical, they will be under russian control and so that there, lukashenko did not say that without him, nothing seems to be solved in belarus. well, of course he is trying to show himself as the head of the collective farm without which nothing happens, of course he knows that putin despises him and is ready to remove him, but so far there is no scheme to remove him and there is really no way to replace them. look at how he is retreating. however, in fact, the speech of the head of the collective farm all around is almost soviet -like. you show them, in my opinion , er, well, they say everything about everything. that’s why

i think that he is trying to create something for himself some spare spare bridgeheads, i.e. he is such a political animal, for him power is the only modus operandi of his existence and he will always do so, only he must take into account the fact that the russians will not let him go like that and if they have the opportunity, they will oblige him definitely they are reloading well, for now they will use it as china will use russia, of course this is not a comparison of things but nevertheless, here and there it is about the use although lukashenko also uses putin ict zenpin in order to maintain his power, it goes both ways, it is a road with two-way traffic well, it's interesting to see what belarusian propagandists say. they

usually say what lukashenko thinks . belarus is now a nuclear state, threats to warsaw and vilnius with a sensitive mushroom and radiation, let's see belarus is nuclear a state that has the ability to respond with tactical nuclear weapons in the event of an attack on its territory, warsaw will melt and vilnius will sink, we will look at the frosted sunset and the rise of a sensitive mushroom in a polish swamp, and this is how it will happen in secret , rush for something new. the main thing. probably, in this situation, the gentleman was smoking so that they themselves would not be exposed to radiation. it is even more of a lie. it is such a mix of the russian

solovyov and kisilova. his last name is ozaryonok. actually, they mold their voters for their own voters, is lukashenka and azaryonok convincing in this situation, according to you, for the belarusians, because the presence of nuclear tactical weapons of a foreign state on the territory where belarusians live will obviously raise certain questions with on the part of the belarusians, because i say it once again, it is similar to the fact that belarus is turning into a large nuclear test site of the russian federation, according to you, will there be a reaction of the belarusians to all this, and is it not this protection that lukashenko is now trying to find in sizinpin and in putin, or at all he is perceived and whether or not he is understood correctly by belarusians from

the point of view of the ukrainian state, well, first of all, he is a freak who was shown against his background, in my opinion, and solovyov is almost an intellectual, that's why we talk about but nevertheless, he works for certain proffekts of belarusians in belarusian society and this means that belarusian propaganda is even dumber than russian and it means that it works on someone and they pretend they are preaching some final truth . i am very afraid that there will not be a broad reaction of belarusians now lukashenko, after his speeches against the manipulations of the elections, he succeeded in clearing almost everyone , imprisoning someone, imprisoning

someone, someone just left, and what is happening now in belarus is such a classic dictatorship, are belarusians ready to take to the streets once again? i don't want to offend you, i was very, very worried when i saw 200 to 300 thousand belarusians on the streets of different cities every evening and i really wanted them to succeed, but belarusians are not ukrainians, they are not ready to go to the end, which we would in fact, there were no reasons belarusians always rely on consequences and this is not the option. how can you demolish a dictator? therefore, i would like to answer you that yes, of course, belarusians will now, er, protest against this, but

i hardly see it in reality. not only sanctions, i have already talked about it thank you mr. pavla remind our viewers that we are working live on the espresso tv channel and also on our social resources on social resources on youtube and facebook for those who are now watching us live on youtube and like on facebook so that our video is seen by as many viewers as possible. well, subscribe to our resources and become a sponsor of our youtube channel, you will now see a qr-code, after following which you will receive detailed instructions on how to join

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there is indeed a blow, one, two, three, then it is really possible to stay in the bunkhouse , if i remember correctly, in cherosim later or three days after the nuclear attack, trams were re-imposed, literally on the next day, the trams were running, but this does not say anything about both true goals, rather than both unconditional hypocrisy, if what scares them is an attack on their territory, mr. pavla, well, i am listening to this propagandist fool excuse me and you are surprised because you are talking about the fact that trams started running in hiroshima in two days and everything is fine they think that by starting

this nuclear epic they will continue to drive in their limousines on the white stone, there will be nothing terrible, what the propagandists together with their masters are preparing the russians for anything is possible, especially after february 24, 2022, right? i always said that you can expect anything from them. they have some red lines in their heads or some others. recently , they started talking about other colors. they just don't have any. they think that they have a mission and this mission elevates

them in a different way. and why do they live to be around a dictator, and somehow , to keep this power for themselves and use it, well , that is, the russian system, it is actually a purely medieval church of merchants. well, everyone other scumbags or whatever they call it freedom as for ukrainians is not a value for them at all, what’s more, what i see from polls and from what they say, they no longer have empathy, well, that is, feelings for the people around them , feelings for their neighbors, feelings there for relatives, well look how they react even to the dead, these are actually people with a completely different mentality, i'm even afraid to say values, because for me they are somehow worthless and these are people who live in a different mental space, and what simonyan says is

, first of all, to try not to become alienated and this absolutely conscious logic. she knows very well that all these idiotic shows are watched in the west, and i think she has some sort of routine or whatever they call raising the stakes in moscow. well, the second thing is to say well, here we are, nothing scares us, we are the coolest, we are poor we will be even poorer but we have a nuclear stick and we will use these nuclear sticks if we want to kill everyone, i do not think that the chinese or anyone else will allow them to use it, but i would not drink more in absolute influence on putin personally and also i believe that in russia, there are no more serious levers