[000:00:00;00] such cultures in the form of spreading their culture for us , for ukrainians , when the genocide of the ukrainian nation occurs, when the destruction of ukrainian culture occurs. the cult opera house of brussels , the royal theater of la monet, announced the next season, looking for its choice of many residents of the capital and its growing of the ukrainian community, ukrainians are outraged by the russian program of the royal theater, in the articles there were mentions of how swan lake and other russian repertoire were abandoned by british theaters, and the founder of the largest private music school in brussels, who migrated from kyiv 25

years ago, changed to before it was a school tchaikovsky is now the brussels international academy of music to understand the true purpose of russian culture , propagandists there help so the general director of the hermitage in an interview with russian zmiv directly said that a cultural special operation is underway, our cultural exports are more important than imports, and our latest exhibitions abroad are simply a powerful cultural offensive. if you want, a kind of special operation that many do not like, but we are advancing and no one can be allowed to hinder our advance, the shchukin and morozov exhibition in paris is the russian flag over the bolognese forest prevented the offensive, as usual, the ukrainians made concessions to the activists, corrected the text of their appeal on the website and promised

to hold a series of informational and visual actions in support of ukraine this season, all admirers of russian art once again saw the scale of destruction that the russians caused to ukrainian cultural objects and actions from brussels olena abramovich vitaly kovalenko for the only news details european bureau of the tv channel inter this is the story and reigned there i have a quote and yours , too, russia is a shadow of civilization, what does this mean , it repeats all forms of european cultures of european culture . all civilizations and all humanity, mr. oleksandr, why does the world love this culture so much, what kind of darkness is going on inside it, what is going on, it is something, it is still artificial

. i will approach this question. i would like to respond. among generations, one more factor should not be forgotten, uh, well, the new generation usually builds its own agenda, its own behavior, to a certain extent, opposition to the previous one, and if, for example, in our generation, intellectuals will dominate dominate i mean now about ukraine, i am thinking about anti-anti-russian sentiments, so i do not rule out that the next generation of ukrainians , even intellectuals , may, due to a certain sentiment with sentiment towards russia, renew this interest in the opposition. you have to understand about german culture, after all, i am a germanist, first of all, i spend my life dealing with german philosophy. so , here i want to say. well, first of all

, what will i return to? compared german culture to russian culture, i will explain why, but you gave the example of poland, yes, the example of the czech republic comes to my mind now, and i was recently in prague, which was also at a conference. well, practically, if we take the 19th century, then if we take literature where i am. well, let's say that czech literature is in its territory, it is german -language, well, geniuses who are famous in this world, who represent, for example, prague in literature , well, kafka - this is just prague and mine year eh and he is an austrian writer, but we know prague through the naked eye through the angel of the western window, this is the german language in austrian literature, the right part of austria-hungary. by the way, what parts of ukraine then is also an interesting moment. our history is worth mentioning and the beginning of the 20th century . in literature, as a german-speaking country , a radical de-germanization is taking place. and what

do we have already after the second world war ? masaryk masaryk german language she has a german-speaking slovak yes, but he creates the first president through slovakia and it is under his leadership under his instrument that the de-germanization of the czech republic takes place and in the second half of the 20th century what do we have we already have czech literature of world importance milan kundera bogomil grabal and there are many, many other names who today in hollywood make movies based on their novels and it is actually very cool cool literature. therefore, we have a great example, we have to learn because czech culture was much more germanized than ukrainian, so we have to learn about the parallel between german and russian culture, what is the fundamental difference here, in my opinion, nazism is a terrible

disease, it is a terrible disease and i do not want to compare two forms of evil there, nazism is modern there is groshism or russian nazism, because there is no evil, there is no such deep forms of evil , can they be drunk, there are no varieties, and because if we say that there nazis are better than raschests, or raschests are better than nazis, then in what way let's get out better, let's just take the scum, so that putin, hitler, what's different for me, the case from germany , after all, in germany, the german nation, which lagged behind the other nations of europe, and so on . in germany in germany at the beginning of the 20th century, that is, the germans realized that compared to the british, the french and even the italians there, they were late nations because the state was not formed, the political

nation was not formed, and this is one of the reasons. it seems to me that the fact that the germans fell ill with nazism and because the lack of their own political nation was such an extreme reaction to it and so the catch-up, but the creation went on such a painful path and then they had to be treated for a very long time, but i am concerned about such questions yes, we know that there was a long process of de-nazification of germany and it was in various spheres of life and in politics and in culture, and so i ask myself such a question. can you imagine that germans could be cured of nazism ? the genius of humanity, he speaks to all people and not only to germans or genders, well, that is, of course. in germany, there were many artists of that time who became nazis and sympathized with

nazism . german is global, this phenomenon is of a global level, and therefore it is possible to go back to those origins of humanism in german culture, it was to cure the germans themselves from nazism. the conversation arose from them. no, it will make the disease worse because pushkin is a xenophobe. pushkin is an imp who hates poles who hate ukrainians who hate caucasians and it is all embodied in him in his god, so if we let russians read pushkin today, it will make the disease worse. why because unlike for germans, illness is the heart of russian identity, and in order to express it, they have to become not themselves or not become themselves. and this

is scary. this is a loss of identity, and it is not hidden to such an irrational level . that is why russians cling so strongly to their imperial an inheritance because it could. apart from that, they don’t have anything, they don’t have a real modern political nation, they only have the empire, and if we deconstruct this empire in literature as well, then the russians find themselves in a situation before the question and who are we, or are we at all? this is very similar to me in my head and with the meanings which which express some historians about the fact that there were russians who constantly stole , for example, ukrainian goods starting with orthodoxy and ending i don't know if they stole balalaikas from some matryoshkas in others, and they did it precisely because of the identity crisis. they did not know who they were, and in this way they built their identity on stolen samples or details , let's say absolutely, and i am approaching the answer

to the question that you have formed regarding well, i hope that between us has to be everything is clear in ukraine, although it is not so, at least we still have sympathizers of russia who are now hiding somewhere and waiting for their time , i hope that even the transformation of our power is political, which began with slogans what a difference type to see peace in putin's eyes, and now they have transformed their rhetoric, these are also principles, and such a historical mission can, er, of our generation, yes, even re-educate our government, yes, because this traumatic experience was necessary for all of us. well, no, i knew about it. i am writing to write something about this from the zero years about the danger of russia, but a large number of our fellow citizens were not aware of this. and now such a transformation is happening and i hope that it will happen forever

, it still means a change of generations, a change of sympathy antipathy, after all, we will keep this core so anti-russian, not even anti-russian, simply understanding that russia is toxic, so to speak, and russian culture , first of all, what to do with our western colleagues, we realized one thing that since we live next to that shadow, in us i would say so a little, maybe not a little, the idea of ​​​​the importance of russian culture in the world is overestimated , here a joke of an italian philosopher and writer comes to mind, what a wrapper when he forms how to write a thesis, like it is addressed to students, but i advise our academics to read it. it is very helpful for academic creativity , and he writes about the language competences of modern intellectuals. it is very helpful for academic creativity, and he writes about the language competences of modern intellectuals. and he says, well, it is correct to assume that everyone knows english, so it is the universal language of communication there. we all communicate in some kind of english. some of us know french and german. well, because these

are great cultures, again of world importance , and you cannot be an intellectual without studying one of these cultures, somehow no one knows swedish, russian, what did he mean to rip off, that he wanted to insult the swedes? sweden is a beautiful country, but i was there recently, for the first time in my life, in stockholm, at a festival and cool business. i 'm just delighted with this country. by the way , the swedes are interesting, but this is also about the russians. they told me the swedes and 300 years ago we lost we lost the chance to build our own empire and we we ceased to be a key player player on our continent but we have not had a war for 200 years it is very important whether the russians are ready to exchange their pseudo-imperial pseudo-greatness for peace i think that not even russian liberals compared to the swedes, but going back to the victim, what is being said here that only those who study russia know the russian language, and they study it mostly as a pathology. well, this is what

the current generation of intellectuals inherited from the cold war, because then they studied the soviet union, yes there were institutes of solitology, and for the most part, well, they studied russian on the right, well, no, it was necessary. because it is necessary and one must know the enemy, but we did not notice how these intellectuals, who or their descendants, were there , followers who studied the soviet union how the russian language and the literature of this russophily were badly attacked, and this must also be understood, but again, one should not assume that russian culture is and one should not carry this narrative to our colleagues that russian culture is of world importance. russian culture is one of the great circles of cultures and next to ukrainian, german, georgian, french , chinese, indian, there are many others, yes , but i still belong to world cultures, as for me , it is primarily british, which today is being transformed into american french italian, german, well, italian, he could not remember the spanish, he understood the reasons for this, there is a certain such constant opposition, but this is a game

, it is not hatred, not enmity, that is , there are world cultures that are absolutely important. does the world culture have such importance? don't leave, but for me now pushkin fell apart over two completely different poets, one this salon is not a masterful and brilliant poet , he knows the word, everything else creates the russian literary language, but this poetry is nothing to me she doesn't speak to me like that and there is pushkin who speaks to us as a language of hatred poltava where ukrainians are depicted ukrainians as who so as almost beasts give to the workers of russia poles caucasian cycle of hatred in autobiographical works and we are the object in knyazyany prigal iz khokhlov, for example, and that's why, first of all, we overestimate the value of russian culture in the world and underestimate its toxicity, because when my

colleagues in the west ask me how can russians be such inhumans if they have such a culture i say so precisely because they have such a culture, they are not such people, because the narrative of hatred, xenophobia, necrophilia and what i call enjoyment of one's own degradation has been laid since pushkin through dostoevsky and up to modern russian literature and culture as a whole. therefore, we have these two positions to understand that russian culture is not of world importance after all, this is a myth that the russians communicate and we should not support it and that russian culture is mostly toxic, how to deal with it well, first of all, you need to offer your own say americans are used to going to the nutcracker, but americans listen to us every new year, christmas, shchedryk, who among them realizes what it is, what it

is, what to learn but not to shy away from. an alternative, again without claiming global greatness. there we are an imperial nation , we are just one of the political nations, but we have the right to absolute recognition of our culture . yes, you yourself are in music, well, in music, why is it more difficult, uh, there are other cases that i don’t want to discuss because, after all, musicians are not necessarily intellectuals and musicians, they do not have to know history, they are positive, more often than not, you know no, they do not know about modern politics , that's why, unlike philosophers , writers, historians and intellectuals , journalists there, they may not have a green idea about that and what was needed there? and what is russian music there? what role does it play? that is why it is more difficult there, but again, again, again, if you compare the world- class composers who play all over there everywhere yes well, shcheikovsky is carried everywhere yes, but why are there so many russian composers there compared to german italian composers and absolutely and many but

they are there they are there but i suggest here there is i suggest the good old socratic principle of irony to turn on a little sometimes because the russians are like an imperial bundyuk nation, they tolerate self-hatred, they feed on hatred, but the irony is that they do not respect themselves, and i have such a case. i call it the effect , is it correct, in spain? friends, musicians, academics, say let's go today you will listen to our concert there, we play chiki, i say, who was there and in general, i'm not, i'm not a fan, i'm not going to poke fun at them either, i say i'm not a fan of economic music, i prefer jazz rock there well, it's clear that i'm an academic of musicology says no chikoki chikoki you will be interested. this is the same here . i understand that it is difficult for them to pronounce tchaikovsky, and they say it is beautiful, or he is one of the composers. he is a talented composer

, there is no question. we are not saying that he does not have music. knew how to write like that, but this is one of many composers , and besides, it's one thing when somewhere someone listens to tchaikovsky's music , it's another thing when this name is used as a marker on our land, but in brussels they gave up the name . named after tchaikovsky, why is it any wonder that his composers do not have it, that tchaikovsky has, well, there are some myths about the fact that he is from chaika, he comes from a cossack family there, but, well, face these transitions from culture to culture from they happen all over the world, and it is clear that the whole world identifying kovski with russia, that's why we should at least not get carried away by these speculations, you understand that if it's russian after all, then it's russian too, let it stay there , but on the other hand, we have to understand, as you said, that the russians stole a lot, but they squeezed out of their the colonies are all small, but i had the same metaphor that russia is a leech, yes. that is, it is a leech that

sucked from all the colonies, sucked out as much as it could and did not give anything in return . therefore, we also have to do such an e- e in- research to understand in all areas where it's about russian toxic imperialism, it's about what russia stole. so when she called ukrainian artists, let's say malevich a russian artist, yes, etc. , yes, we have to work on this and we have to work with our colleagues, and the last thing i want to say is that we should not reproduce russian narratives that sit very deeply in us, for example, a simple example and and in our colleagues, a simple example for the last case , i am talking to german er musicians, er, which is absolutely for us yes, which is a little older for me, he is from east germany with berlin, he knows the history of eastern europe and for some reason we remembered the beginning of the 20th century and he says

and i, but it was your civil war, i say no, we did not have a civil war , we had a war with russia, we fought against the red army and against the white guards, these were our enemies who both of these armies encroached on the destruction of ukraine, the red army was destroyed as a result. a german and not a russian in his historical university, this is a civil war somewhere on the territory of the russian empire. and the fact that ukraine was here, that it recruited subjects so that there would be a unr, so that there would be a zluka, so that we would try to defend our own statehood. by the way, when skoropadsky was in power, the germans supported yes, it is washed away, why? because lying russian narratives dominate, and it is necessary to deconstruct it, first of all, this is the task of historians, and as we said to sergey on the air today, sir, we are simply dominated here by

historians, always in everything, they are absolutely calm down, i remembered before the company discussed the project, the project is brilliant, revisions of history, i advise everyone, this is what our historians do when they deconstruct russian lying historical narratives. i'm sorry, there are 5 minutes left, but these 5 minutes are absolutely yours. i am not comparing german culture with russia . i am comparing the state in which german culture found itself after the war with the state in which russia is now. er, german classics on big stages because everyone understood about the war, this is happening now because not everyone understands , but the same will happen to russian as well as to german, whether we like it or

not, masaryk managed to germanize the czech language and the czech republic in general and we did not succeed because masaryk succeeded and skoropadsky failed. if skoropadsky succeeded, then he , a russian-speaking ukrainian, would have made ukraine a ukrainian ukraine, and then we would not have started this dialogue at all. that is why it is not a question about that well, no, not even a question about russian culture or german culture, but simply because the masaryk was lucky and the skoropadskyi was not, and hm, when we talk about the need to break russian culture, now in the west we also need to face the truth of 200 years of military and economic domination russia has led to the fact that their culture is sold and ukrainian culture no, i once wrote a very small post about it, but compared to others there, it had a certain

popularity. ukrainian literature has its own great romantic epic mykhailo starytskyi, we have a ukrainian romantic prose epic of the same starytskyi, bohdan khmelnytskyi trilogy, but compared to the russians, starytskyi was under double control, he was pressured by censorship that existed throughout the russian empire and, in addition, restrictions on the ukrainian language and that is why ukrainian culture did not reach the same size as in the example. there, it is just as polish. i am not talking about russian and because of the lack of money in ukraine. also, we can’t, we can’t to promote the effects of our own content, how does russia do it, i will allow myself to disagree with the fact that russian culture in the eyes of the west does not have the status of a global

one. one of one of but unfortunately unfortunately but she has a very strong position i watch netflix i watch these american teenage series and in american teenage series the heroes in schools study dostoyevsky so this is only a position because it is arbitrary to say that russian culture is not worth anything, but if in the american comedy children learn markers, i'll be with you later, it's marketi to the list if our , well, definitely brilliant actor as of now, keanu reeves sees i don't remember which one exactly as a russian classic theme if pasternak, but he can be seen and photographed with an apiary in his hands. well, let's not deceive ourselves. our struggle with russian culture is a very long , very difficult and very uncertain struggle, and we must grit our teeth and go ahead and say that now

the war will set everything on its own. we have seen brussels will not lead to the automatic we are at the beginning of this journey to fight with russian culture for us to fight and fight and what is not the fact that our children will see our triumph over him gentlemen literally less than a minute and well , this topic did not go according to plan and it is possible and right because, well, it shows what you probably showed how it is possible to think about it in general about the topic of culture , in particular ukrainian, in particular ukrainian. audience took away something valuable for himself, but i'm really happy, at least because none of you denied that russian culture is toxic, well, at least for ukraine , and let's hope that something better for ukrainian culture will come in the near future

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