[000:00:00;00] how do the others serve him in one way or another, depending on the functional, that's why there is no politics here, let me repeat once again, these are all people, they are not some marginals, so what? well, there are some crazy ones. yes, i remember these clubs of russian thought, so to speak, in ukraine, which difficulties were financed, the standards were simply collected by crazy people, budgets were drawn up for them, and uh, well, everyone was satisfied, let's say yes , but they did not affect the i understand that they uh, if we put a stamp on them, then they just, well, it was useless absolutely reasons to count, well, we are talking about people who absolutely included the political system of ukraine, read, well, look at the biography of the boguslavs. well

, he has been in power all his life in independent ukraine, a deputy, all his life , he has more orders than anyone else, so to speak. and he seems to be the hero of all yes, the hero is not everything is great according to his public rhetoric you will never understand what he has there well, only this conversation that was published showed who he is and there are many such people, many simply they are embedded in our political system and to those as for these people, i don't know whether it's ukraine's decision to join nato, whether it's ukraine's entry into the eu, or whether there are some events that must take place . so, when it becomes clear to everyone that we have no alternative with russia , we will never be under russia in the nearest historical perspective. then maybe all those who played this game very often should understand . again, i know many of these people personally. they are not supporters

of the russian world, in principle, so include the entire ukrainian world that the russian world is where the grandmothers are they are there, roughly speaking. yes, but this was created. well, because no one was engaged in it, the feeling is that there is a huge electronic course, so to speak, on which you can make money. it is from 20 to 40% of the pro-russian population. no one struggled with it during of our entire party, who did not deal with it. yes, because it was profitable, they milk western ukraine on national ideas. yes , someone from central ukraine, and these are responsible for the south and the east of ukraine, then they gather in the verkhovna rada. in power, our and roughly speaking, they are already solving their issues separately among themselves, what have all of our authorities been doing all these years. thank you, oleksiy, for the conversation. it was oleksii holobutsky

, a political technologist. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks on facebook and on youtube for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and on facebook, please like this video so that it is promoted in the recommended well, subscribe to our social networks on youtube on facebook on telegram on instagram in a word, we are everywhere there is content, informational content, we are present on various platforms, in addition, read our informational resources, in particular , sites from press tv, we work for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week , the most pertious, well, the most porative news from ukraine in the world, as well as the front chronicle, everything is there on our website, we have more on the air serhiy tara, a politician, a deputy of the kyiv city council, mr. serhiy good day, good health to you and i am glad

to see you on our air, i congratulate you. that we are ready to see the leader of china here, i want to talk to him, i was in contact with him before the full-scale war, but for this whole year, for more than a year, we have not had contacts. the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china has already reacted to zelensky's statement. they said that they support communication with the ukrainian side has no information about a possible meeting. well, first of all, why didn’t everyone call zelensky, as the western media wrote after the conversation with putin, and what he wants to hear or what he wants to say about your

zelensky leader of china. it seems to me that ukraine wants to tell china that we are ready to talk and communicate even about chinese initiatives. but i think that no one in ukraine has any illusions about whether china really wants to help end the russian-ukrainian war, because in fact , if china really wanted peace, it would simply stop buying russian oil and peace would come very quickly on the second day , because after the last source of money supply in the russian federation would be cut off, namely the oil trade , primarily from china, then after that the russian the economy would not be able to provide any support for its aggressive russian army , therefore there is a question as to how sincerely china wants to help in resolving the russian-ukrainian war, in fact , the position that i have now is beneficial to china because

it bleeds the russian federation and gives the opportunity china is gradually extracting from russia all the resources and all the opportunities that are available because russia is becoming simply dependent on china in all respects, so china actually has such a situation, it is in its own way and he would just like to be one of the winners the winner over russia and not to share the victory of the west, that is not why. he is waiting for when russia will be enough, that it will be possible for russia to take it with its bare hands, but with china , it is necessary because the task that we have to set before ourselves is to at least preserve china's neutrality is neutrality in the sense that china would not supply weapons to the russian federation. and if it can be achieved through diplomatic efforts , it will probably be enough. in general, it must be

remembered that china is also very dependent, but china depending primarily on western investments, china's copper depends on western investments, and if the west seriously breaks relations with china, then the chinese economy will not be very good either, so if there is a choice before china or to leave relatively good relations with the west, but at the same time to create with russia or , on the contrary, to support russia, to sever relations with the west, then china will definitely choose the west because , by and large, even in spite of the turkish tour , the anti-western attitude that is present from time to time among chinese leaders in china is very well aware the consequences, the economic consequences of breaking relations with the west, so this is the situation, we have to understand that such initiatives do not lead to any concrete results, but these initiatives are definitely necessary. well

, we obviously still need to decide with the ambassador of ukraine in china, because we know that from february 2021 er, the ambassador of ukraine was absent in china because serhiy kamyshev died there from a massive heart attack. well , this issue regarding the representation of ukraine in china is being resolved for a very long time. this is the first. well, and the second. we are many in the past two years, we have heard about how we should compare to china and david's statement that we should adopt this experience of the central committee of the communist party of communist china, how to manage the economy, but in the current situation, is it too much? well, illusions now exist about the fact that this meeting there, these phone calls, when he suddenly flies to china, then this is something fundamentally, er, somehow

decide whether we are for china on their scale now and in this situation, when china understands that the more russia is at war with ukraine, that is china can gain more benefits from russia , definitely for china. ukraine is primarily a country that exhausts the capabilities of the russian federation. history is the ground for china to take more russian resources. china sets itself the strategic task of gradually absorbing russia, well at least politically well, imagine, in the far east, the border between china and the russian federation runs somewhere along the amur river , and on one side of the river on the amur , the population in the russian federation is successful there in the dnieper, people per square

elements, and on the other side are chinese, and on the other side of the river, on the chinese side, the population is 57 people per square kilometer, that is, you can imagine how huge the dispalace is, at least in terms of population. er, in the russian far east, it is inevitable , especially since china has such a strategy in the economy. so when they invest something somewhere , they not only invest money, but they also invest their own workers who come to the place of this investment project and very rarely return home afterwards, i.e. they stay in the country where they invested. china allocates significant funds to that, after the russian economy finally falls into dependence on china , investments will begin to be serious, so to speak , investments in china. but along with these investments, chinese workers will come to china and taking into account the fact that russia simply lacks low resources, that is, the far east will gradually be populated by chinese influence and

invested, and it will be very easily and brutally killed, and this is beneficial for china politics, they want to do it, but they can't say it openly , that's why they need diplomatic steps like these peace plans, especially since china has huge ambitions to be an influential power in the world, well, at least number two in the world and they are trying is to demonstrate at the same time, this is an attempt to demonstrate, it is not reinforcement, well, with some real tools of trust on the chinese side, and that is why china is trying to create the illusion that there is trust in china in the world, and this is what they are doing such an initiative, therefore, ukraine can play with it, and i think that it is necessary here , i say once again that it is important to communicate with china and make sure that china is as neutral as possible in this war. the efforts of the chinese side, and the last thing i want to say about china is that you understand that

china's capacity is not as high as we imagine it, but when i was in china, i observed such an interesting phenomenon when 200 beijing in other chinese cities have goals built quarters that are without people, why is this happening because china wants to show that the economy is growing and it invests resources and construction that do not have any heart of economic sense, for example, the chinese economy depends on energy, which is built entirely on coal, that is, china in many technologies is a very far from advanced country, but it is trying to demonstrate to the world that it is such a country where all these initiatives come from. therefore, you just need to understand it, you see, and i believe that

the agreement with china at the meeting is normal history, but illusions that this meeting will have some fundamental significance for the resolution of the russian-ukrainian war, well, of course. this is only an illusion today. zelenskyi also said that if the armed forces of ukraine do not win the battle for bakhmut, the pressure on ukraine to find unacceptable compromises with the russian aggressor, we know that last week the international criminal court finally issued a warrant for putin and we know that putin is currently banned or at least under threat of arrest in 122 countries of the world or maybe against this background, is there some kind of compromise or we peaceful compromise or some kind of peace initiatives eh can the west push ukraine in view of the current status of putin and eh could it be possible that the loss of the battle of

bakhmut there is an excuse to put pressure on ukraine and say that it is necessary to make unacceptable compromises with the russian aggressor , well, the americans openly say that this is not a buying point for their attitude to the russian-ukrainian war, but at the same time , it is necessary to understand that the west is already so they do not accept putin, that no one will ever openly call on ukraine to make any compromises. well, one must understand the significance of the fact that the court issued a decision to arrest putin, which means that no western leader will even be able to communicate openly with putin. some kind of protocol with a person on whose announcement ukraine ratified the rome statute, well, it is ironic that the united states did not ratify the human statute, but it was also supported by

the decision, because after that, what did putin, no one in the west will somehow call ukraine to an unacceptable peace, but i do not rule out that such attempts will be made, perhaps on some front of those diplomacy, because, well , in the west, not everyone wants the war to go on for a very long time, and it would bring to their economies. that's why it's such a natural process when there are always people who talk about compromises, and more than that . well, to a large extent, this situation that has developed in russia is the result of western politics, which trained putin to believe that he can do anything. look here all the powerful oil and gas power that has been created in russia for decades, it was created to a large extent thanks to completely unconceived policies of, for example, germany, which encouraged

the dependence of the european economy on russian oil and gas, although russia has never been an open democratic country, and in germany and in the west they should have understood what it would lead to, but they did so, and here are all the people who called for conditional compromises and an understanding of russia. they are nowhere. well, they remained, although, of course, they have never openly called for a conditional peace with russia on russian terms, they will never recognize it, they will speak at all. well, you have to understand that now in the west, russia is not perceived as a partner and will not be perceived as a partner for many, many more years, but the legacy of this sleaze he remained of the sly politics and i think that we must understand that from time to time and initiatives to negotiate with russia on russian terms they are quietly but will be done one more event today - this is a point

historical point historic day day the release of the kyiv-pechersk lavra from the branch of the rpc, radio svoboda journalists spoke with archimandrite nestor, a priest of the ukrainian orthodox church, regarding the release of the lavra, they are not going to leave today, because they say that they do not have a court decision regarding the eviction, we will hear from archimandrite nestor, will they? will you be traveling? from the territory of the pechersk lavra , you will not be here today. and you serve here like this. and what is your name ? can i contact you, please tell me? and why won't you, because i am not renewing the contract

protected national decisions. yes, you didn’t. i contacted you about the fact that, mr. serhiy, how do you assess the prospects of closing down the activities of the rpc branch in ukraine ? resist, try to create such an image of great martyrs, although it is very strange, because in fact the russian church has always supported aggressive actions against ukraine and the leaders of this church. say consecrated, if this word is at all acceptable here, the actions of the russian army in ukraine, i would very much like that now the expulsion of the russian orthodox church from the lavra did not end only with the lavra. now there are a lot of such small cave lamps in ukraine, and representatives of the russian orthodox church are sitting everywhere

, unfortunately, this one the mass exit of the russian orthodox church from ukraine is far from complete, so this is a very correct step that the authorities are taking to promote the church, but i would really like this step to be extended to other regions because there the situation is far from that simple and, first of all, it is not simple. why, because there is no such strong will to do it. and i wish that the expulsion of the russian orthodox church from the lavra was not completed . i praise it. it is very important now. we must also understand to inform society that the russian orthodox church is only called a church, but in fact it is part of putin's state machine and the leaders of this institution are present at all the solemn events that putin gives, including those events where putin brags about what he is conquering there ukraine, and there are representatives of the russian federation of the orthodox church who applaud this and who think it is very good

, so we must understand that this is not even about the church, this is about the tourist structure that supports the actions of the russian army. and of course this must be put to an end and not only in the kyiv-pechersk lavra. by the way, we have already shown the synchronicity of pavel lebid pasha mercedes, what he is saying. he said that he is not going to leave the kyiv-pechersk lavra until easter. hlavkom posted a video where the vicar of the holy dormition kyiv-pechersk lavra of the ukrainian orthodox church visited the service center at the kharkivska metro station to issue a foreign passport, let's see in two

listen well, er, that's how everything is being prepared , at least for pasha mercedes, apparently, for going abroad, serhiy who and how, according to you, should regulate the activities of the rpc branch or ban the rpc branch in ukraine, in what way should this be done, given the fact that the state and the church in ukraine are separated, it seems to me what is going on here again, it's not about the church, it's about a structure that supports putin's terrorist actions. and this is the competence of the relevant bodies of the competent structures that should deal with security. it's not a question of culture, it's a question of security, and the relevant structures have an approach. for the first time, mercedes is fleeing or

is going to flee from ukraine. i would very much like the relevant structures to pay attention to how these representatives of the russian orthodox church, who they are, will leave i am very worried about the historical monuments that are located on this territory, i am very worried that the museum that is located on the territory , well, in fact, it is the territory of the state, and there are any exhibits that are now accessible to the representatives of this so-called church can be taken away or stolen or at least built, but we still need to pay attention to this. i think that at least the ministry of culture needs assistance here, at least in the sense that they help preserve everything that is currently on the territory kiev pechersk lavra therefore has a lot of work to do and then to announce that the recognition of this church is not a question of culture in general , it is a question of security if everything in ukraine remains

as it has been until now with the branch of the russian orthodox church, what does it give in the future for our state well, here as it will remain. now it definitely won't happen, but now it is important that this process be spread across the regions. it is important for ukraine to definitely support its technology, but without interfering in the affairs of this technology, for this , conditions must be created for all religious communities that they simply recognize the state of ukraine, support its independence, and how they will work with each other there, how they will conduct their activities, that is their business. here, ukraine should not be studied as a state, as a state that should only create conditions for the development of religious activity in ukraine. i am very sorry that this the process that we are currently seeing in the lavra did not begin immediately after ukrainian independence because, well, i would not say that these steps, which at one time led to the fact that

the kiev-pechers lavra turned out to be management of the rpc were correct. of course, this was a huge mistake on your part, and we now see , well, the situation was absolutely normal. conditions for the development of the ukrainian orthodox church after the 14th year, i believe that a huge step was that the ukraine ukrainian orthodox church received a tomos and it can now develop as a legitimately recognized church. it was a very an important step, but i'll repeat myself again, but it's important, well, it's a shame that it's at this price after all that we see in ukraine on the front. we finally understood how important it is in the rear to have reliable, reliable structures, a reliable church that will not be

never support the aggressor at the end of our conversation p serhii why do you support russia's war against ukraine despite the fact that tens of thousands of people died from russian weapons and from the russian occupiers why is the number of parishioners in this church which is one of the largest number of parishes in ukraine. why is it so large, why is this number so critical? people don't understand what's happening. people don't want to see it . some people go to church. they don't even think about it. where do they go? that's when ukraine finally decided laws obliged the russian orthodox church to be called what they are. well, the environment of this church began to oppose it. why because they perfectly understand that if they

are called the ukrainian orthodox church well of course, they never mentioned the moscow patriarchate. many people go to church and simply go without thinking about who is in charge of this church. well, unfortunately , a large part of the citizens who go there were just like that. well, it led to the fact that gradually the entire population was involved in the activities of this church, although it was completely dependent on the russian federation. and this is one of the reasons why it still had so many parishioners, people simply did not think about it, and the second is history - it is that , well, let's say frankly before the beginning of large-scale aggression er into ukraine means part of ukrainians the largest part of ukraine in general somehow paid little attention to it well, here in sociology we even had people who voted for bcz and this, i'm sorry, at one time there were millions of people well, these millions of people and went to the russian orthodox church

of the aware and this is the russian orthodox church, you know , this is a philosophical question of the historical, unfortunately, this is such a colonial legacy of ukraine, very well we should put an end to our conversation, mr. serhiy, thank you very much for the inclusion it was serhiy taran, politician, deputy of the kyiv city council, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, also on youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us live on these resources , please like this video , subscribe to our social networks, you can join our sponsor club , the sponsor club of the youtube channel espresso , you can go to this link to the qr-codes , there is detailed information on how to do it, i 'm saying goodbye to you for today, we'll meet tomorrow

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