[000:00:00;00] it's not a problem, they took off the bracelets. this is general information. you know, uh, there are a lot, a lot of questions, uh, because in fact, uh, it once existed. i worked in the ministry of internal affairs and headed this department , then the vertical was clear, then this service was destroyed, and practically these are the teenagers who set out on the path of breaking the law. at first , they practically remained outside the custody of the law enforcement system and the state. this was earlier

they stood on a certain record and control, this is a problem, the next question is that it is the latency of such behavior, if one of the teenagers had not posted all that bullying video on the internet , then it turns out that it could have continued in the future , that is, it is about the fact that such outrage has the right to exist, unfortunately in our society, someone is covering up because the parents of one of the teenagers have something to do with a certain authority, and this kind of bullying and humiliation happens, and when such a story becomes public, we learn about other facts only after in addition, there is a danger that such cases are concluded, the child is humiliated, and really how is she to live in that settlement, the boys are allegedly on distance learning in the same school

, the person who was responsible for this direction has already resigned from the education department of this ot, and uh, even though i wanted to in order to hear the principled position of the prosecutor's office in this situation, a special unit of juvenile justice, which leads the direction of juvenile affairs, should also supervise the position of the national police. while there is such a unit, it it is called in a different way. but this is their direction and the most important thing is prevention. it is very easy to do. how many of these structures that i named have they visited this school, how many times with whom did they communicate and did the management or administration of this school ask for help from law enforcement

agencies if the administration schools, i have great respect for the teachers, their work is extremely difficult and difficult, and by the way , the teacher was the primary one, but they know everything that happens in the school both during lessons and outside of lessons, every settlement knows all this if they turned a blind eye to this, this is a shameful approach that leads nowhere. if they did not know, then the situation is even worse, it means that they do not know the real state of affairs, that is , it all boils down to that, and of course, the families of these children, because you cannot blame everything on the school , most of the education takes place in families themselves, but that's where you have to start, because if a teenager lives a double life, it means that he does not have sincerity, openness with his father, mother, with

other family members, and he would work . i know many families where the children behave responsibly because they know that they are putting their parents at risk in this way, but something went wrong somewhere. i really want to. i think that this situation will definitely be under the control of civil society, but someone has to be punished. well, we understand it sounds a little populist well, but to punish those who , for example, committed an act of sabotage or official negligence and so on , it is very good that you mentioned the school management , which should have signaled the relevant authorities of juvenile justice or juvenile prevention, i.e. maybe someone else could, so to speak, share the responsibility for this

shameful, terrible brutality. that is, it is very difficult to say. ugh, the story is somehow you know whose throat it is, because it breaks human destinies and children's destinies. i am sure that by now it is they will not look for the extremists, but they will identify the guilty . why? because after such publicity , everyone and the prosecutor's office carry out official inspections. this reply who said that they will immediately undergo an official inspection within a few days, because there are representatives or parents of one of the suspects, the mother of the accounting department, there are other things, i.e., now there will be an investigation, but this unfortunate case should serve as a warning to all others and a

signal to school administrations because it is still necessary to understand the extracurricular life of children, especially during the war, children receive additional stresses that they did not experience before, there is a certain number of children who are internally displaced and appears appeared new at school, this is also a challenge both for them and for those who previously studied in these educational institutions, because of that, it is a signal to everyone . well, first of all, for us as adults in society , we should not forget about our children's children in our everyday worries, because... living separately from them, as if closing them in our lives, we give the child a chance to find himself in another. we must not forget that the child is an adult, already a member of our family, they want

us to treat them like an adult, they sometimes live the life that we we don't notice that is, a signal to all of us. thank you for looking at how our child lives. well, we return to the topic of protecting the rights of veterans. contact us . yaroslav bondarenko - volunteer, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, co-founder of the base 4-5.0 project. congratulations to yaroslav . glory to ukraine. glory to the hero. to talk with you about how the state programs aimed at helping combatants and veterans in treatment and rehabilitation work, but with your permission , we will start with the initiative that echoes within the walls of the specialized committee of the verkhovna rada on of social policy and protection of veterans' rights, galina tretyakova noted that she has a proposal to replace benefits for military personnel after demobilization with special scholarships that will be paid within two to three

years, mr. yaroslav. how did you meet this news and how do you evaluate this idea? i didn’t study it, but p. tretyakov is already a well-known scam in ukraine, so i don’t expect anything good, as i think they don’t expect anything . the veterans themselves are good at it, so i can’t, you know, there are such acts that you don’t even want to discuss that's why i'm on this, on this issue i'll take a break on this now yaroslav and in your opinion, as a person who directly encounters and knows the whole situation from the inside, in your opinion, what would be effective mechanisms, that is, to make everything as simple and as honest as possible, in particular for of our veterans, well, look, i am engaged in rehabilitation, i can only talk about rehabilitation, so i will briefly say that in our country , the question of the word rehabilitation has remained at

the same old level, there are problems of a bureaucratic nature and there are work problems in the standard, if a veteran applied for help, then sick leave sick leave pay slip on pay slip it is always really done although there are queues because there are a lot of workloads and hospitals and rehabilitation centers and so on, but the very word rehabilitation is a big concept in our country, go to war, a person for example, a farmer, he had a happy family , everything was fine, he had a business, and so on, he came back with some defects, he is all parts of people who lose their family, who loses their job, and their business is lost the meaning of life is lost, that's a whole complex, and that's exactly what we do. we do exactly what

no one does or the state does. our task is to return a person at such a moment. because it's easy to heal, put prostheses , buy a stroller or something else, it's part of rehabilitation, it's part of physical rehabilitation . to get into some kind of loop and so on and so on to think about suicide that's exactly what we're picking up, we don't let it happen, we're uniting veterans like this, my doctors, get together and deal with these issues. that is, you now

emphasize that the issue is not only physical recovery but and psychological, some such rhetoric absolutely necessary for veterans well, nevertheless, state programs , at least we know about it, exist, and why do you think they do not include this component, er, it is a lack of financial resources for this, perhaps, specialists, not so many of you have worked with the psychological rehabilitation of our veterans. do you know what the reason is? i will tell you how it is. we have already encountered these issues . we have encountered state bodies . in these topics, i treat it in such a way that we don't need help, it's better not to interfere with us, don't climb at all, there are people who have no expertise in

this profession at all, on the contrary, they are trying to tame some volunteer projects so that they too to launder some money, grants, but, unfortunately, it is aimed at who who helped everyone, i just don’t see such people, even we ato contests yes, and in that finance for this year, but kyiv did not give us a single penny, for example, for some reason, kyiv thought that for veterans do not need funds, although we have protected all our programs and so on, and all these funds did not go to the war, as i wrote about, they did not go to the defense , the ability, but they simply went to other parts of the party, that is, that is

the situation. why are they not doing it? no but we we are closing those links that are needed. some are very necessary to be closed. in your opinion, we should intensify assistance to veterans and, so to speak, intensify the work of the relevant specialized areas of these or other government bodies. i agree with mr. yaroslav. ah, especially the executive power. i mean the cabinet of ministers of that lanka that would really build a system of assistance to veterans on my initiative. on april 12 this year at 2 p.m., a round table will be held on this i invite yaroslav to the committee by chance because we want to invite to the heads of all, i emphasize all the ministries that are involved , this is the ministry of social policy

, the ministry of veterans, the ministry of finance, in order for the ministry of health to build a system for a demobilized soldier, how he should undergo rehabilitation, how he should and where to rest, where he should return to normal civilian life, i am sorry to admit, but the ministry of veterans affairs should be the main one here. it didn't happen, they just establish among themselves who is the main one, and in fact, not understanding, the main one is the soldier who now needs help from the state, who gave everything for the sake of the state, who gave his health, who part of his health, and who needs rehabilitation, everyone emphasizes everyone who was at least a few days at ground zero , both psychological and other, because the elimination mechanism is important here. i understand that the state

has faced such a challenge in recent years, but there is the experience of israel and the americans, which government officials are supposedly studying, but they still forget that we we have to follow our ukrainian path, there are examples of yaroslavu saying how much i have heard, unfortunately, i will not go to visit them, and there are other centers where people, knocking on officials' offices, lowered their hands into them and they went the other way, they work on their own. they are looking for charitable funds from caring people , but then where is the money that is allocated in this direction, i agree, they are being washed away, now all prosthetic factories in ukraine have been destroyed, to which there were many complaints about the work of which there were many complaints but there were also positive things, give these guys

even if the bases are not given to ford without property, they say that we will sell them there , it is not known who will buy them and for what money, that is , we need to invite representatives of civil society, volunteers and officials, and we want to finally start from the beginning, how does it work , because it seems that in a little they began to change, but not where our hospitals are and who owns them . today, the hospitals are military owners from the ministry of defense, the ministry of internal affairs, the sbu, the ministry of social policy , there is no single state policy. how will this person be socially rehabilitated and integrated. i'm sorry for such a crude comparison in a society that will be completely different . this is employment and i do not agree. by the way , with tretyakov's position regarding the so-called i don't know how it is possible to give benefits to a person

with some kind of vouchers, it's expensive every a minute of our hero's life, we will postpone it for the future, we need to find other ways. i understand that there is no money, but for our military, for veterans, there is definitely money, and we will tell you where to get it, from which programs to transfer it. thank you e p bondarenko is still with us on yaroslav's connection, well, from everything i have heard, it is actually to somehow bring into a single plane what is now existing in various e volunteers, in particular, who take on everything that the state cannot do well, and the state with its resources, which very often the addresses do not reach those to whom they were allocated, how to treat this initiative , maybe you will take part in the round table.

because in our country they are concerned about rehabilitation issues, they know more about our base than here in ukraine. they don't know us, they help us as best they can. why, because ukraine is now the only country that, er, all these here are psychological and physical rehabilitation measures, and we are the only ones who have such and such a fact during the war, no one else, even in more of us are invited and the exchange of experience goes so that we can tell how it is happening, how it is better and so on. and so on . that is why i will say, unfortunately , other countries care more about the country than our government

. that is why the story is to help our government. well, because the concept authorities, it is a very abstract question to congratulate about our work and say that people, let's do something. let's help . if we're honest, we've been running around the offices of acquaintances with outstretched hands for the seventh or eighth year. and you're already glad that we have people who help individual mps of the eu, poroshenko, the team is calling darkly, as it should be. we don't even bother to put the spokes of the wheels. that's it, everything is right . yaroslava. yes, we understand that the concept of power or the state is a rather abstract thing. we understand that there are specific people in specific directions and your task and the task of mykhailo tsimbalyuk so to speak, to carry out a properly planned communication so that the officials understand what are not only the problems, but also the ways to solve them

. in the direction of possible transfers of funds thank you very much mr. yaroslav yaroslav bondarenko volunteer veteran of the russian-ukrainian war co-founder of the base 4.5.0 project well , we are going further and now we will talk about the situation in our front-line territories, but how it is changing and what restrictions are being introduced there mr. mykhailo we will definitely ask you too but now i would like to add to the air the military correspondent of that channel yevhenii kitaeva she is on the phone with us ms. yevhenii congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes i congratulate you that some of the settlements that were the center of attention of both international and ukrainian media for a long time are now closed for visits by ukrainian journalists , in particular, but not to all, and this is precisely the appeal from ukrainian military personnel

, which actually raises the question of what is censorship and what is selective access to red zones at the front, tell me a little more in detail how this manifests itself, the fact is that in reality this is a so -called traffic light for journalists, they shared about their own the front line and near-front zone on red, yellow and green were introduced, initially, restrictions on working in the red zone for everyone without the exception of journalists, but since journalists do not have access to the list of settlements that are part of the red zone and where we can work, we also do not it is clear because the front began to be closed in huge chunks because it is clear that this front line is in the red zone when the question arose how journalists can

work with this traffic light now when we collided that uh even work in the yellow zone m-m is possible only with the accompaniment of the press officer of the unit that is currently stationed there, and the work of a journalist and a military correspondent, in principle, is to be in the red zone because there are still peaceful residents there and to show what is happening in the red zone zone and there was a certain period of time, it was not long, we tried to figure out how to work , how to get access to this, and then we found out that a list of military correspondents of mine appeared colleagues who have access to the red zone in fact, it is on the list, we were outraged by all the journalists who got there and

who did not get there. and actually our appeal was related to this. colleagues were in solidarity with us , those who got on the list from other tv channels and applied to work out the algorithm of the work that had would be because in fact there is no need to invent a bicycle we cooperated perfectly and in fact this is a speech that was recorded by journalists, these journalists have been covering the war in ukraine since the fourteenth year, they have tremendous experience, we studied at our mistakes at the beginning and in principle now, it was enough for us that if we were pre-arranged, for example, filming in the red zone, we arrive at the place. if suddenly we are told that the commander is on the spot, the company commander, the battalion commander, it does not matter if the commander is on the spot for us says that filming is currently impossible, then none of the journalists does not demand, does not arrange some kind of scandal and does not say that i

have an agreement and that is, there was communication between the press and the commanders on the spot. if it is not possible, then it is not possible. well, i do not know. of such cases among us, why now we still cannot find out with us even after the application, i would like to give the floor now to mr. er mykhailo, he is a guest of our studio, mykhailo tsimbalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, we understand the importance of a military correspondent in war, we understand all but nevertheless, this kind of selectivity also does not seem to be something normal in the given conditions p. mykhailik, well, we understand the war, something can be censored there, that is, and so on. well, here, in principle, then the criteria should be when we talk about journalism in general, and especially about military journalists, these are brave people, they take risks on the same level as military personnel and clearly there are certain

nuances of how to cover this or that information , but when it comes to journalists who already have experience, then the deprivation of accreditation or the creation of certain lists here it is necessary to clearly understand what was the basis of those who banned or created e-e. this list of desirable or undesirable if a journalist, for example, e-e is not allowed or deprived of accreditation, then on there must be important reasons for revealing the information , is the official a-a giving access or a military secret, etc., then this is one story , if the coverage was not correct , the information was presented, then it must be established . it seems to me that some bureaucratic apparatus has worked here, and it is important that the leaders hear it here the ministry of defense, because they are responsible for such information

, and everything should be solved, as they say, if there are no other pitfalls, as they say, i don't think this is the story, because the work done by our military is very important, but there are still secondary how this work is submitted is submitted by the military journalists themselves and on the basis of this our international partners judge ukraine, it is very important because this is the information front as society perceives it to submit information as it is, which is true, which must be perceived by our e-e society, because of that it is necessary to establish the truth and it seems to me that this is not a normal thing when certain lists are created and others are refused for tacit consent, it should not be like this if by the way, very

good questions about journalistic solidarity yes, that is, when we talk about journalists, well, it implies that there is such a feeling of the elbow, so to speak, that is, mrs. yevgenia, how did colleagues react, in fact, this appeal was recorded by journalists, my colleagues who work together at the front and we have been working together since the 14th year, someone i joined in the 15th year and this is such a team that on the front of the work of a journalist, otherwise there, uh , you don’t have any competition there, you have to help , roughly speaking, in your colleague in the workshop uh , share videos, someone got somewhere uh some place someone couldn't er-e any

the issue is resolved - everything is being resolved and communicated there, and over the years there have been problems with the company's communication evgenia evgenia, a chinese military correspondent of the fifth channel, e-e, joins our broadcast, i don't know, we will definitely try to reconnect somehow now, and we have very little time left of course, until the end of the broadcast, yevgenia emphasizes that there is no competition for the work of specific journalists at the front, and apparently hints at the fact that all those who understand what we are talking about are uniting now. yevgenia will continue any please contact us again, i hope, i was talking about the fact that during these years, for 9 years, more than 9 years of war, this is such a single organism of useful people, and now such a situation has occurred that someone from this and the entire organism was pulled out and added in the list of some no, and it is clear that

right away colleagues who work with us and are on the list were in solidarity with us and this is very valuable because , despite the fact that they can work , they still, er, turned to er in the same way e to the authorities to the ministry of defense to the general staff to the people who are engaged in communication, who build the algorithm for the work of journalists at the front, and this is very valuable, that well, in fact , kora’s war is at the front, uh, outside of politics, we understand the limitations that the military asks of us, we really just want to work because it the only thing we can do now is help our country. thank you, ms. yevgenia, for your work and for participating in the live broadcast

of the espresso tv channel. remind me which committee of social policy and the protection of the rights of veterans. and also the lieutenant generals of the ministry of internal affairs. thank you, mr. mykhailo , for participating in the live broadcast. and then the broadcast is already picked up by our colleagues. serhii rudenko good day and good health to all today , march 29 , the 399th day of the heroic fight against the ukrainian people against the russian invaders. of moscow priests from the kyiv-pechersk lavra , the russians took two-thirds of the wealth