[000:00:00;00] it goes. you take several dozen projects there for investors and say, give us money, let's build. how do they perceive it ? well, they say there after the war, but the situation is changing very dynamically . look. it was suggested by the partners that we do not need to wait for the end of the war . it is also not very fast to work out, it is necessary, uh, well, it is a whole financial model, i will not talk about it for a long time, they were invited . did

you knock on the germans ? it was precisely in poland to ukraine bild and we had a very powerful and fruitful conversation there, there was even a meeting of the minister of economy and trade, and when we told how we see the post-war recovery, they themselves said that it would be good to tell it more circles businessmen of the czech chamber of commerce and industry, and we understand that at the end of may, at the end of march, at the end of march , we ourselves will go to germany to our partners. that is, if the initiative was from the czech side and they were even twice in the dnipro, met with our regional military administration with

the leadership of the local self-government, that is, there were representatives of the embassy, ​​what to ask there is coffee at the forum. and you can actively meet with everyone there, including the ministers of different countries. it's very cool what you said . the key phrase is horizontal connections between cities, yes , between municipalities, these are very strong connections. it will play a role in our post-war recovery, and yet, how do you present your vision of recovery ? i agree with the thesis that these horizontal connections will play a key role, because the decentralization you talked about is not, uh, it did not arise from some sick morbid fantasy this is a european example, and the high role of local self-government is exactly how the model is built in europe, the powerful

organizational and economic power of such large cities. well, for example, cologne is our partner and it is very difficult not to compare it even they are very powerful with our capital power and with their financial role in the political political environment of the country and uh, i understand that we also have to do this well , in this regard, we should stand up for the russian language and strive so and so excuse me and i am on three in tongues, i think the last few weeks we are a little difficult uh and uh we are striving for this and these steps we can we are taking in order to achieve this and if we are on horizontal connections eh i am not talking about the recovery plan which is being built as part of the state program. we will of course join this plan and will do everything

we can, what will be required of us from the central government and the regional government to go along with this recovery plan. but we want to make our own local recovery plan in parallel will help us attract er foreign resource of foreign inclusive how would you do better there no no president who will come no one and what do you already see the damage there will already be invited to the factory well i will speak- i hope so fingers crossed that we will meet in dnipro on thursday next week from the members of the board of directors, the damage is already serious in our country. i wish you success . well, this is very, very correct, and it would be better if all our mayors and representatives of local self-government understood. i think. well, the majority already understands that money is not given just like that. money are given under projects under control under responsibility 41 projects well, this is quite

powerful, i applaud you, and when it is open, what are the most interesting ones? well, my favorite project is the construction of an industrial park. what would we already have, i understand, if not this damn war , then we would already be actively building it today , and i also really like the project of creating a new urban space, more ecological, energy-efficient, and there are large projects in the transport industry , the modernization of trams the network has large projects in the humanitarian, social, and medical spheres, that is, we have projects in all fields, from social humanitarian to large transport and housing projects, so summarize what they tell you , so we will do it after the war . let's

wait . straight man i will say what the czech side tells us, let's take all the necessary steps together so that we have quality projects and then together we will go to more powerful european countries for money. that is, let's leave poland and the czech republic and return to our current realities what do you have in the city, after all, you want a business trip now , but i would also like your comment briefly about uh , well, they called it a scandal about not allowing state auditors to your city council what are you there why don't you let them and why are they so excited? i don't know why, for what reason, there's a wine scandal. i know that , for about six months, different units of the state audit service have been coming to all economic departments for about six months, they're conducting

inspections, and they're trying to sign some nonsense of these inspection reports. and then we we go to the courts, he won it, we will win these courts, they say, well, we won this court, we will come next week, and this kanitel, she is a direct person to us, and tell us, what do you call it , where do the legs grow, what do they want to pay you nuts to the local self-government well, we live in this paradigm has been around for many years. we even got used to it and they got used to it and they tell us the problem is that we have a task. on white, say black, we even have such examples when the work has been completed there and the auditor says that the work has not been completed, there is also a video

of types of video recording in the process of performing the work , how they were performed, and then later and the auditor of krasnovka, idiosyncratic filming in kia, in the act, writes that the work was not performed, then we we go to court, we win in court, we spend a lot of time on this whole thing, but i, uh, i understand that nothing works in our visa office. and here they went to the public plane. and this was picked up by our political opponents. let's say so at the local level, this is some kind of confrontation between the local government and the central government, this is some excess of the executors, i don't want to report on this even more, now you have such an opportunity, briefly, but now the situation with the economy, your profile is in the city of dnipro, what about the budget, more, less, on

how much did the war change the income of the budget ? the settlers added a little more taxes to you, this is not significant. the settlers added taxes to those who are now employed. yes, they added , but mostly, well. we planned the budget based on the fact that last year the civilian sector asked a little, and the military sector gave additional income because of the military well, this is very correct today the wage plan is high, and it so happened that from this year the military sector also maintained its level, and the civilian sector grew a little

. of income this year, this year, somewhere in the summer, we fully paid off our internal borrowings, which we planned to have until the 26th year, we are already in the autumn with a zero credit portfolio, a portfolio of internal borrowings, in two years, somewhere 5, well, 4 billion uah were repaid domestic loans , but volodymyr, i thank you very much for taking the time from your business trip to join us and tell about local self-government, which is a guarantee of our strength and stability volodymyr miller , deputy mayor of dnipro e-e joined us on a foreign business trip, but now they are visiting people around the world and are already establishing horizontal connections in order to invite investors here to invite money, but we know that for this we need to conduct

projects, all of them are painted with design and estimate documentation, if we just go, give us because we we are so poor and no one will give us electricity, we are strong, we are capable, we are powerful and we already know how to work, how to write those projects and how to attract investors. investors, we hope that after the victory, very, very soon, the front-line dnipro will come to us . the front lines are shelled with artillery every day, for the past few days there have been aircraft flights

, this is very sad, sad news like this arrived from there. of local self-government, because there are no former ones here, these are people who are a bit stingy, as i call them mrs. natalya. i greet you. good day . i congratulate you. borders with these inhumans sumyshchyna ms. natalya, i am glad to see you well, unfortunately, let's start with those unpleasant news, yes, they are constantly shelling bilopol, now we will be shown video photos from those recent arrivals from aviation. tell me what it is after all, it was, well, what do you mean by aviation, how did they fly in or how for how ? for you, it was heard, what was seen, well, and of course, what are the consequences you know during the time when i, but today you just didn't mention that we have the anniversary of the liberation of the enemy's area when we

he was kicked out by all of our armed forces, well, we thought then that our life would begin a little differently, so it began in a different way. several of us traveled to russia 7 km in a straight line. that is, when we reach the highest point of our city, we see their buildings, and in this way they also see our border villages, which are on the border every day chernivtsi we have already learned and calibers, we hear the weapons a-a it is playing we even and what they eat from the houses when they fly but what happened at night 24 in march, it didn’t lend itself to any idea at all. we didn’t even. well, it’s scary. first we went to play. well, we were happy to hear how to play. we went around the city center. then there were the cheaters. we heard all these sounds of these mopeds overhead, and when

the rockets whistled, the rockets whistled. not you are confusing and there were explosions with incredible force when the ground did not want to, five-story buildings were just walking around with the windows pouring out, uh, that was really scary, and well , it's not that we weren't ready, we didn't even imagine that so, in the center of the city of my football yes, the rockets that made 7 m deep explosions were dropped from the sky , what did they say? yes, anya, listen, they were dropped from the sky, these rockets , what else were they made of? well, we specialists in bombardment of exits did not hear them , we just heard a whistle and then a huge blow uh, there are victims there, unfortunately, now there are victims and unfortunately how many people have died. tell me, please , two people died here, we already knew that at night, we knew that it was people who were doing their job and were on

duty. it was a school guard number four and the policemen who were on duty that night at the police station took away five injured guys from the police, er, in general , 15 people with various degrees of injury were given help , and people were amputated a person's leg, and er , private houses were directly affected there were hits in private houses where people survived hmmm 15 wounded er we also got two dead well is it possible to do this now the shots are going on at school it was easy to survive when your chest fell on you and all that metal rails er building materials just fell on a person and she was buried. this is a security guard who saw the light of memory. our school is the bilopol higher technical school, its fate. in general , the first year natalya klinichenko is in touch with us for a little bit, apparently. the connection was lost. let

's not take it again. it was 5 days ago shelling bilopillya, well, after the release of the sums, they are not fired upon constantly. i told natalia, but the people are already used to it, but what happened 5 days ago was scary because it was rockets, they were, and the aviation was working. natalia, tell me about the consequences of the destruction of the school, you started i started talking about this school in general, when the enemy says that we don't preserve history, we don't want to remember our common past, that's just that common past , he is destroying the school with force to build a remnant that built not only our school, but the whole aunt's infrastructure in the glushkov district, in fact, there were many of its buildings in the rila district, and this school was built in 1912 as an agricultural school. and since then, it has been working all these years, for more than 100 years, it has been working to train personnel for the agricultural sector for agriculture, and

even during the war, it during the second world war, people lived there, there was a shelter for children who had nowhere to go, it worked. and here it is, it is located in the village of skilshchyna, it is 2 km from the border, and in the summer it was destroyed , completely destroyed. it was a dormitory which also for more than 100 years, the buildings themselves have been educational, and people moved to work in bilopilly, and in the building that was located in bilopilly, and at 11:00 p.m. at night, a plane flew in and all the windows and doors in the neighboring buildings in the building fell out . fortunately, no one was hurt, because people were sheltered like that this is how the thing that connected us for 100 years was destroyed, the church built by tereshchenko was destroyed during the opening of the museum. the church of st. barbara. it was a historical

monument, there was also a direct hit. unfortunately we have such a common memory. what do you know better ? well, it's not about, but it's better. and they spread such a simple moment that we don't honor. we have destroyed four monuments where the monuments to the fallen soldiers of the second world war along the border in the world are broken by bombs. with that's how we are, dear, only in words, listen to what can be said at all about after the fur coat, dumplings and wives, families, that's all, that's already a topic. i think it's closed regarding their mental consciousness and in general, the health of some human, something to do with the school, and with ours, this is that school where oleksandr oles studied and, well, there where the guard died, it was destroyed, there was a guard at all, it is also a historical place, it will be five years this year , anton makarenko studied there, for the first 10 years he lived near the station and studied there in the school, in the elementary school, not only he, many outstanding people studied there, well, for 135

years, the school survived two wars, uh, it was so strong that even a direct bomb hit destroyed only half of the building, uh, there were rails that we were covering, they flew like well, like matches 50-60 m from the school, the direct current was cut by an explosion, this is also a historic building, it was simply destroyed there , according to the director, according to what he says , not a single military person crossed the foot of this school at all, there were no military communications there, nothing, it was simple a peaceful facility where children studied, an elementary school where a major renovation was done five years ago, a dining hall, a gym, well, like that. in addition, we have six on the territory , six more schools have been destroyed. this is a completely burned down school in the village of skiskivshchyna, opposite the school. the destroyed school in the village of pavlivky, such a new school

somewhere in the early 1980s. it was put into operation in the early 1980s. this is a destroyed school in the village of vyry . by the way, this school is not only a destroyed school, but it is also a school where our skiers studied and trained. including antonimchenko, he took his first steps there, his sister trained there, and in fact, just the gym where the fifth base was , the bomb was piled up. destroyed that in in your community, it is completely distance learning, and it is not even a question of some kind, because somewhere there, mixed education is already being introduced about the education of children, it is definitely not a question at all, and even with mixed education, it is also not a question in our country, only distance learning for children who live in 20 - kilometer zone, this is such a recommendation of the ministry of education and it is actually related to security. that is why children study

remotely. we received a large batch of laptops to help our schools so that they could study. teachers are helped to master all this and children learn remotely, even children who have left for other cities, for other countries, they continue to appear on the air to communicate , conduct these lessons and learn, but regarding those who have left, there are some approximate ideas about the number of people who have left the community now part of it, look for uh, well, it’s difficult to count, because migration processes are taking place, people who live directly on the border of those villages, for example, as we already mentioned today, the pavlovkas from the vriskov region, the rims, they are looking for shelter in bilopylivya, people many people from bilopil leave for sumy, that is, there is constant migration

. well, according to the mayor, our community has decreased by a third of the population , he says that according to the number and consumption, and according to the appeal, putting pressure on the population has won. in safer cities, what are the moods well, a third of the people left, two-thirds remained. well, especially after the last one, when they were shelled from the air force, so what are the people , have the immunity already appeared, is it working, or is it all the same? well, what do they say, people are leaving? children and people are leaving. well, i will remind you to clarify that on the 24th it was not the last shelling . on the 27th, on the 28th, the air force arrived again. for two days, they hit a courtyard of people in the city center, and next to our central first school, number one , there were 130 windows, doors, and roofs. this was literally the day before yesterday from uh, sunday to monday. that's like that. that's what we had again

. well, that is, you know the thesis that it doesn't hit the same place twice. it doesn't work here either. because it can be repeated. well, absolutely yes , absolutely close to those. what were the lesions 24-27 again four mornings treacherously people were sleeping, that is, even if there was an alarm signal, you can’t always hear it because it was the fourth frame and thank god all the people here survived. i just wonder how they survived in that situation when the bomb flew into the yard to people, but the alarms always go off because it is there, is it aviation or artillery ? well, it is very close, there is little time to fix it, very little time to fix it all, because for a few seconds the plane rises on that side, flies to the border, it takes seconds and only then it goes off alarm what kind of siren can it be when mortars when hailstorms warning about anti-terrorist operation shelling about threat shelling well people are already trained as they say already by the sound hearing close

fell or not should we hide well that’s how we live well i returned to the question of mood that ’s all- how do you live, how has it changed, or, well, it is logical that people should go somewhere like that and why don't they go there, there is no way, not as they explain , as how all life now looks different , mood, mood i am completely different, as well, each person has his own sense of fear a sense of danger, many people left, mainly people with children who want to continue their children's education in stationary schools offline, but many people left only relatives who, well, let's put it this way. our business with agrarians, because in fact the foreign border territory will be mined, it will suffer and

be blown up by mines, how will a good year be, also a question of many people, people are alarmed, we will say there because well, we all normal people, when you're a little bit like it's nearby, it breaks here, it's too much such bravado, no one needs it, but in bilopylla, the post office has been restored , the post office has not worked for three days, there was no internet, the internet has been restored, you see , we talk to each other normally, everything is heard , the post office has been restored, the shops are always open well, the products are the most necessary, transport is working , there is such an uncomfortable question, i ask you , do you communicate with people as a journalist, you know, there are people there who, well, the border is nearby, relatives are there, brother, sister , godfather, matchmaker, who, uh, support russia well

let's say this, i don't know such people behind me, they never talk about it because they are afraid of it, but well, maybe we have half a minute , i will tell you about a woman who was taken out of volkhyn and the next day her house burned down. she lives in bilopylla, she came to bilopylla on the second day a huge woman flies into the house again. that is, she was leaving perfectly, but the son is also in russia. and this is another people they don't know that it's the same thing, but we still have a little time left, but she doesn't want to leave to see her son, she won't leave her son, i was born here, my husband, my parents, and i will live out my life in ukraine, and in russia there were some of the best ladies, natalie the president used to come to us in okhtyrka, he was from trostyanka, he was dismissed, i wanted to ask you about this a little bit more because you know, in the 20th year, he came to us after that there was another visit, but in the 20th year, he came with the inspection of roads to

schools and i remember this day very well because i then i asked him why there is a war in our country. why do you go to check roads and schools, and he said that it is necessary . how do you feel about these visits and how do you assess the readiness of the border communities for what happened on february 24, 2022? see well i'll tell you this, we were all waiting. there were rumors that maybe the president would come to bilopol, too. the people were ready somewhere in our country, and maybe even for us . at the household level eh what it is possible that the quantity will change. well, how will the quality of the border defense be? perhaps we will increase our defense measures, the means that will provide interceptions and prevent what is happening in our country today, well, in fact

, there are shellings every day and we are experiencing all this very well, if only the people are worried, on the one hand, they think that it is good that he came, and on the other hand, well, as we traditionally say, oh, the president has arrived , now he will come to us, well, we will hold on , we will defend ourselves, i would like to. of course, more attention was paid to defense border areas and with the help of the roads, we still need to rebuild at least the school. if we have only one school with 130 windows and 190 windows in the school, there were people who were left without houses or broke down without receiving anything, now they officially said yes that they receive help only from humanitarian foreign funds and various charitable organizations and from state compensation. i did not hear. personally, i asked if some houses were damaged. they said that we

did not receive state compensation, although collected all the documents, all the necessary certificates about the destruction, about the fact that they suffered, but many humanitarian funds, foreign funds and our various charities help people how to restore. the president was still told that they would pay attention to the border, they wrote in the official release , but still, how do you assess whether it was possible to prepare more given what you knew were informed about the development of the border communities , their voices before the invasion of russia. well, let's do it, and i was on the border on february 22, 2022. and there was a shooting of everything levoferno on february 22, and uh, in two days, there were no

votes. well, they still wrote the lists, which means this is absolutely the border, we saw the russian border, we went there on february 22 with my colleague, the deputy, filmed and wrote about what people say, what do they expect, and well, people were kind of calm. okay, but there is an inner anxiety of course there was and we understood, we were completely honest, we were not ready, we didn't know what to do, where to run, and just what kind of organization, internal self-organization, when people already began to agree among themselves to go on duty, to look for some means of protection for each other, i warn you thank you for your work precisely from this internal self-organization as a journalist as a deputy - this is important, you see, it turns out that this is what you, we all survived, and we will continue to hold