[000:00:00;00] i went to them at seven in the morning on the 27th, just before the battle, i was there 10 minutes before the battle and i approached them and they asked to appear - to make a live broadcast for them, he says give us the opportunity to appeal to the people of buchan with a request that they come to us er, we joined so that we could defend bucha and i said to the boys, come on, we are not a cherry gang , bahne makhno, yes, there is some one there, or, well, these sirkos, or well, i say , let's do it, let's not insult nestor ivanovich makhno and ataman ivan sirko, well, we are not a gang bitterness let's say so, let's give it that way they say i miss even my time uh and i said let's give me a contact uh

phone the secretary of the council, what did he say, we are in belohorodka, and belohorodka is 20 kilometers from buchi on the main highway . so, if you go along the road and it was not occupied , an evacuation was carried out from busha , people left when the first green corridor was already opened, people left for belohorodka that is, already on the 27th, the head of the teroborona announced that they were in belgorodka, the guys who stayed at the defensive buch and organized themselves, these are actually veterans of the russian-ukrainian war and since the 14th , that is, they, uh, stayed in buch, uh, until this full-scale well, before the start of the first battle, they tried to blow up the bridge across the rokach river on their own, the place across the rokach river could have prevented

the invasion of this column into bucha itself for a while, but since they acted together, it was not enough explosives and they were very indignant at the fact that the city government did not cooperate with them regarding the fact that this bridge was blown up, but i also called the secretary of the council about this , what was wrong with me, and in addition, the guys who organized the defense of irpen and organized the first checkpoint on the giraffe, they told me called with the fact that no one from bucha, from the leadership of busha, does not pick up the phone, that the leadership of irpen is trying to contact the leadership of buchi, and the defenders of irpen, who stood on a giraffe , are trying to contact the leadership of buchi in order to agree on an action plan for the defense of me they asked me to make this connection somehow, because the mayor did not answer, nor did the secretary, well, that is, there was no contact with them, i spoke to the secretary of the council, to which he said why do we need irpin we have everything organized and everything

under control a-a after that i yes and we have already gone too far - the memories have sunk in. i think that historians and maybe prosecutors will deal with this situation later . well, the current situation in buchi, and in particular with the local authorities, but briefly, please. we have been actively rebuilding buchi for a long time now . a few appeared, for example, we speak an american philanthropist is currently financing jointly with the regional administration. hello, yes, you are here. yes, the restoration of vokzalnaya street will in the future be transferred to the restoration of houses on yablonska street . in general, i believe

that bucha has recovered very quickly today, and of course it's not the destruction that was in irpen. but, well, bucha is recovering. thank you. well, yablonivska street church this and that street which is actually between anything irbinet is standing next to that giraffe near that roadblock that you talked about well at least the local authorities anatoliy petrovych fedoruk at least restores bucha effectively we thank him for that and kateryna ukraintseva, deputy of the bucha city council, joined our of our live broadcast. thank you. today is the anniversary of the liberation of ukrainian bucha . meanwhile, buses are still running from lviv to moscow. of life, despite the closed border and the state with the aggressor state, carriers travel through european countries to detour through the west about the scheme of how businessmen make money from ukrainians, our correspondents know

, let's see the plot and then discuss it. since october 25, 2015, ukraine has stopped direct air connections with russia and at the beginning of the full-scale invasion of the occupiers , bus and railway services do not run, and while unofficial transportation is prohibited , carriers have set up business on trips to the aggressor, there are groups on social networks every day they publish announcements about flights to moscow, for example, a trip from lviv to red square costs from three hundred dollars , a trip to poland is one price through poland and already to moscow it is another price and it costs from $300 to $500 as of today, so the entrepreneur is good realizing this, he commits a crime and for this crime he should be punished . the route of the carriers is laid through european countries, in particular through poland, lithuania and

latvia. pay without any prepayments and go with us to warsaw for free, let's say in warsaw you change from bus to bus, you transfer your suitcase, the bus is full of people , well, it's not full there, it will be from 30 to 40 and the driver already when everyone was stuck passed, collected all the money and already started, let's go, there will be no problems when crossing the border, promises the representative of the carrier halyna, but she shares more tips on how to outwit the border guards , well, in order to make you feel calmer and you can show not biometrics, but a simple a how to enter poland, show that passport, actually turn away those traveling to moscow, ukrainian border guards cannot , the state border service noted, we act in accordance with the law of ukraine if a person does not have a ban on leaving ukraine through those checkpoints that

are functioning, then we cannot not let him in and where whether that person is going to warsaw or lisbon or moscow, if he crosses the western border, it means he is going to a neighboring country, you see, the security service of ukraine generally denies the existence of such transportation through the territory of ukraine is impossible to get to the territory of the russian federation, which is the aggressor, so such reports are untrue and this is solely for obtaining possession of other people's money , as they can sell tickets, but in fact such a flight does not exist, so we did not exist, we tried to book tickets for this dubious flight does not require a deposit, only a photo of the passport and after that the dispatcher tells the details of the trip tomorrow and departure from two to three

o'clock in the afternoon. how popular are such transportations in lviv? you can judge from the frequency of flights departing from lviv every three days and from moscow to the city of lviv once a week. poland did belarus no of course no i do not support such flights in any way and i do not understand who can use them now so what if people want to go to moscow then what should i do if a person does not want to live here why not can go to russia. if she has such views , why can't she go? i've never taken him on those flights, so in principle, i'm not going to go there. repeat the days on the road, and ukrainians from lviv reach moscow. why do passengers go there and back? we will say so since may of last year, because

someone's relatives have real estate there, someone has some pensions there, they go, do biometrics, passport , turn back, the crime is that ukrainians go to the aggressor country for the purpose of tourism, lawyers convince us that there is no transporters commit offenses with signs of collaboration. the criminal code clearly provides for responsibility for this, and it is said that the implementation of economic activities with an aggressor country is punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment. businessmen also offer transportation services to the russian capital from kyiv dnipro kharkov zaporizhzhia and other ukrainian cities and while some other military personnel are defending our independence in the trenches. well , now let's talk about this and other topics with our

the next guest is ulyana park, deputy e.e. deputy k. i apologize to the lviv city council, the head of the commission on the legality of parliamentary activity , freedom of speech and security element. well, you have a task. in the lviv city council, of course, there was a lack of good things, probably the budget in our commission, but unfortunately, without corruption , it must be like this, as a lawyer , please tell us what is wrong with you. because we talked before, ulyana often comes to us again visiting what can you call everything and in principle there are two colleagues, a lawyer said that this qualifies as economic activity with an aggressor country i do not know if this can be proven in the criminal code a new article is provided for collaborative activity that provides for conducting economic activity with an aggressor country , that is, we are talking about about the fact that these funds are paid

by tourists and passengers for this transportation. they then somehow get to russia and with these funds, weapons and ammunition are bought. we understand all the money that enters the russian economy and then it is used so that many ukrainians, and when we talk about the fact that europe should support ukraine, should completely block any communications, transport with russia, then for some reason the position of the security service is very strange, which says that they are unaware of such precedents and facts, because first of all we have to fight and our internal enemy , we have to be an example of how much we cut off any contacts with a country that kills ukrainians every day, and then we can demand from our european partners and of the world, what they did and helped us in the same way. of course, when we talk about blocking the business of stores

that have not left russia, we must first of all be an example, and if there are such workers, when such carriers are brought to justice, it is from three to five may even be deprived of liberty for years, then for sure the other person will not want to deal with it, because now in fact there are a lot of ads on the internet that you can go from ukraine by transport to russia, this happens. who should be brought to moscow? how then can the slogan "suitcase" be implemented? if not, well, somehow people are limited in finding this route . it simply shouldn't go from ukraine to russia . since we have completely stopped any transportation, any contacts with a person should not lie in this country. this is where we take it. i understand that you are telling the truth for yourself, but how

did we stop transportation in our country for the whole year ? russian gas is transported through ukraine to europe. is this not conducting business with an aggressor country? the aggressor does not get money from this, which means the entire management of naftogaz of ukraine and ukrtransgaz should be taken and planted from three to five. what is the difference between transporting people to moscow or russian gas through ukraine to europe ? of national security, therefore, uh, i agree with you in part that yes . that is, we make such decisions, we declare that uh, these uh, restrictions and the break of any contacts but at the same time, yes, i agree that such anyway, the transportation of e-e gas through the territory of ukraine still takes place, and at the same time

, it turns out that this gas is reversed. although the owners of these routes earn something in wartime, the question is that they clearly understand that they are violating the process, and the cost of this ticket is proven by the process, that is, on the air. we heard in the story that it is from $300 to $500. we understand that it's simple to go to poland costs much cheaper. that is, it is about uah 1,000 there if we are talking from lviv, and when it is $300 and $500, then there is an understanding that the carriers themselves are aware that their activity is illegal, so that is, these buses. they first go to the border of russia with latvia and further, passengers cross on foot and accordingly. as far as there is information about this in these announcements, they get on a russian e -bus and head as follows to moscow or where further, and that is, these contacts, they are

, they are the corresponding carriers among themselves they cooperate, they contact and you don't have to buy a ticket twice, you pay somewhere for this ticket and this money then ends up in russia . if a person, well, i don't know, wants to, he feels the need to go to the maidan railway station in russia, then he can go from europe to the border and there, cross the crossing for yourself and move on your way. and how many of these people are willing, uh, do you know, if these transportations take place once every three days, then there are probably such people who want to, and who should, as a lawyer, who should stop covering this sharashka column, law enforcement agencies have bring to justice and this will be an example for others that such activity is illegal, it is a karena and for it they can even be deprived of their liberty, the security service of ukraine . well, then, to lviv e-e topics and problems as a deputy of the city council, as far as

this year there are already more year of a full-scale war, the situation in lviv changed in general. well, because lviv became such a certain hub, and it brought a lot of people and , accordingly, probably taxes. in the form of taxes or not, please tell me how it has changed, how many now, for sure, this number is known for sure by e.e. companies, e.e. telephone operators, because there are many people who moved, rented apartments on their own , did not register anywhere, did not receive this status because they feel that they are enough provided in order to fend for themselves, but even the figure is being discussed, if in general we say how many people passed through lviv and moved on to other regions of ukraine or abroad, then it is about 3-4 million

they call even more numbers, that is, officially, not objectively. and those and those who somehow accumulate here, andriy ivanovich, it seems to be about 200,000, so damn , officially, somewhere around 200,000 idps who, uh, settled somewhere in lviv, but we don't know either. that is you are now a person registered, she could continue her journey. that is, we are guided by such figures, and at first , of course, all the cities of western ukraine tried to provide such first, most important help - this is housing, food, some kind of medical care, we all know how people lived in schools, there are more than 100 schools in lviv. they accepted immigrants, then we prepared for the school year and accordingly helped resettle internally displaced ukrainians in other dormitories, maybe modular towns, many of them had already lived in the city for a certain time, found work

, rented housing in the city and they continued to provide for themselves on their own, that is, in lviv , there really is a lot now. you can see that there was so much, so much of its budget is not visible in the budget. of course , businesses were registered here, and even in some companies, local self-government bodies, it is not, it is not such a large number compared to how many enterprises in general stopped working due to the war. in other words, we did not actually see such changes in our budget, because some of our enterprises suspended their work and businesses at the beginning of the war stopped their work, we helped them as much as possible by the fact that if they leased communal property, we released them from this lease to europe, the same as neighboring poland, i then ask ulyan

how are these people who came because of the war they have already changed your work, your vision as deputies of the development of lviv, well, that is, it is possible to build new housing for them, some modular towns or capital construction can create something new in this regard, this is actually a challenge for the whole country. because when we talk about the needs of the vpu that they have now of course, housing is the first priority of the first needs, and when we look at how people live, for example, in a modular town in lviv, then of course these are the first basic needs, they are covered, but you cannot live in such conditions for a long time, but as we always say that there is nothing more permanent than temporary and this is actually a big problem so that this does not happen in the future so that people do not have to live in those modular towns for a long period of years .

the economy of lviv is a question of who will finance this construction. because in fact it is very correct to build new housing, and in the period even after the second world war , the economy of the states was started due to the fact that social housing was built so, these were jobs, this was the purchase of construction materials, respectively. this was the development of the economy, because even any construction materials, they provide jobs. and for many other industries, workers, even in 2011-2015, in new york, there was also such a construction of social housing, which gave work to 300,000 workers, got a job at the expense of this project, so we can generally make such a cycle and give people housing and give people jobs and fill our economy with applications

what is the special feature of social housing? because in fact , in all cities we know that there is such a thing as an apartment queue for a long time . this is a soviet issue. there are many state programs, if we are talking about idps, then it is a mortgage, then there is also a loan. there are many programs, but we must be aware of the expected cost of housing. because in reality, when we talk about this loan for state youth housing, the cost is uah 27,000 in lviv for square meter and for this amount it is very difficult to buy such housing , that is, you still need to pay some extra in order to be able to participate, it is not market, it is lower than the market

, you still need 30-40% to pay extra this housing is now a program that concerns the military, and it provides for a payment of about 40,000 per square meter, and it is, in principle, real, and it is very important that it applies not only to new housing, but also to the secondary market, because there are apartments on the secondary market cheaper ones can be made easier buy more, moreover, you are already settling in and living , they need to be done like a zero cycle, make repairs, so yes, i think that these are these projects, these opportunities that exist in the state they should be real, but we need to talk about what we would like and a person who works a lot with internally displaced ukrainians, as a deputy of the city council, we generally aim to integrate the people who came to lviv into our

environment and into our society. peculiar and you are not afraid that they have already changed well this wave of people have not already changed your such agglomeration yes it is because now we hear that mariupolsky wants to go there somewhere to do something someone is lobbying someone well these are normal processes they are the human factor has not been canceled by anyone, but it affects the culture of going to church there and the political culture, it is somewhat different here, don’t be afraid , actually, it seems to me that the processes that are happening now are people who moved here in the first place turn to watch as we do we live and they follow the same way. maybe our traditions. because i don't communicate with anyone. at first, it's strange how we go to church every sunday. how many of our families have to go to their parents for dinner after church . that is,

we have so many traditions. and these traditions are pleasant and positive for those people who came , and even they say that i had such a conversation that uh, what to do on easter or christmas in lviv, because everything is closed, you have to go to church, and accordingly, people have nowhere to go they go to church because they eat in the church i like it and they are already going from one to another to see how the service is going, that is, it seems to me that there is no such negativity and opposition here. although, of course, the issue of the ukrainian language in lviv is very relevant and the people of lviv really want to communicate with them in ukrainian, but together with that, i really support when people try , perhaps wrongly, somewhere they make mistakes because we are also galicians and not quite us , the language is purely ukrainian. yes, we have polish interspersions, but

when a person tries to communicate ukrainian, then she needs to be helped in this and it is very important to help children integrate into your society, literally briefly write down here for those who have moved, how can they come to you , what can they get, the project is called shelter. yes, i am the coordinator of the shelter friendly lviv project in lviv, and this project is implemented the non-governmental organization development alliance and it organizes such projects in eight cities, it is also kyiv, poltava , verkhovyna, ivano-frankivsk, stryi-chernivtsi, e.e. , chervonograd, and in all these cities, from april 1 , a new recruitment begins, we conduct activities for children and adults from april 1 where to go and what what can you find us on the facebook page or telegram channel, we are looking for activities because our activities are held in different locations in lviv, this is swimming, chess, a tailoring course for adults ukrainian english now we will have yoga

for adults because we used to have fewer activities for adults, but now adults are asking for more, please. friendly lviv . look for ulyana on facebook . she is also a coordinator in lviv. free for the children of immigrants, this is very good, thanks to our partners ulyana, again, a member of the lviv city council was with us . thank you very much, thank you. we are now a child search service . we are looking carefully to see if you have seen these children near you . at the beginning of the war in the city of mariupol, the boy wanted to escape away from the hostilities to a more peaceful territory, he left home and all contact with the child was cut off for almost a year , there was no news about serhiy. and here at the beginning of march

we received two messages at once from witnesses from the west of ukraine who say that they saw a boy similar to serhiy and quite recently that they showed him to be 16 years old , that he is a cleaner. who called the hotline of the child tracing service, says that he saw the boy there three months ago during the new year holidays and even talked to them. the boy seemed to go with carolers and was clearly different from the local and that's why the man paid attention to him. and now, when the witness came across the program about the search for serhiy, he remembered this story, who is being paid for it . one call is very important considering another message that we also recently received from the west of ukraine

. i saw that boy a couple of days ago. they showed serhiy vyti. they were sitting in mukachevo at the bus station on a laptop computer. well, if i don't know, but i think he is here. of course, we immediately passed the information we received to the police. at the moment , the law enforcement officers are investigating possible leads. i was personally attracted to an interesting detail from a witness from the city of mukacheve. a man says that when he saw a guy who looked like serhiy at the bus station, he was from sergey's mother also told me that when the boy left home, he did n't take anything except a computer for 10 years.

says that on the first day of the full-scale war in mariupol, it was already quite restless and with every hour the situation only worsened rapidly from the bombing, the family hid in the basement, but shelling was far from the only problem of the residents of mariupol , we didn't even have the internet, we even drank technical water from krynychki technical pot only here are the police well , the whole family was eaten, he doesn't drink, he could n't eat the horror was most disturbing to fifteen-year-old serhiy samoilov, the lack of internet , that's why the boy wanted to leave mariupol. pokrovsk

serhiy planned to go to his mother's acquaintance in pokrovsk, this is also the donetsk region, about 200 km from mariupol, and the boy's family did not dare to leave the house, so serhii went alone. i thought he would return and the guard was sewn home and already when he left i already understood that my wife and i did not keep him where serhiy is now for sure and it is not known, so i appeal to everyone to look carefully at the photo of the child, the boy looks like he is 16 years old , he has short blond hair and dark eyes , if anyone has him has seen or knows where he might be now, do not delay and dial the short number of the magnolia child tracing service from any mobile operator 116,000 calls to the hotline are free or write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in