[000:00:00;00] rake for smart and caring people in the evening, the most espresso in ukraine at twelve o'clock and for your attention, a news program on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers, we begin our program with the ongoing release of the lavra from the monks of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate. i would like to remind you that yesterday the court rejected their lawsuit regarding the illegality of the eviction, so currently there are no legal grounds for the monks to stay on the territory of the reserve , work on the transfer of the buildings was supposed to begin on march 30

however , the commission of the ministry of culture has not been able to get there for the second day, what is happening on the territory of the lavra today ? the lavra is not very calm here, there are several hundred believers of the uoc mp of the moscow patriarchate, but they do not call themselves that, they say that they are simply believers of the ukrainian orthodox church and, er, their number is increasing and also here public activists of the orthodox church of ukraine also came, and periodically there are certain fights and conflicts between them, for example, they brought posters and under the inscription "go away with a gun" they tore up this poster and tried to push representatives of the orthodox church from the front

entrance of the temple of the archim of the temple of agapi and pechersk . located behind me. in fact , they tried to push them out with prayer. they are people who are parishioners of the uoc. they brought here crosses, icons, and they constantly sang prayer and in this way they actually tried to push out the parishioners of the ptu from the territory of this temple , and fights periodically took place at the same time. the territory of this temple and also the representatives of the ukrainian orthodox church are already praying the easter prayer in them they shout christ christ is risen truly he is risen says that this is a very powerful prayer they want in the same way as

they said to expel evil spirits from kyiv-pechersk lavra is not going anywhere. they are not going to leave here . they say that yesterday there was a decision only regarding securing the claim of the ukrainian orthodox church, and the court decision itself has not yet been fully adopted. as i thought , this is not a serious conversation, the legislation of ukraine is clearly written according to the legislation of ukraine. what are the grounds for the legal perspective of this case? we have absolute confidence because all the truth is legal. the truth of our side, if the events will not develop in the legal field. yes, then another question is whether we are at war, do we live in africa? we

have a judicial system. in addition, one of the priests of the ups just took the saint into the water. as far as i understand, he began to sprinkle it on the parishioners. we don't know what they wanted to show by this, that is, they did the same thing they usually do. easter, when they celebrate easter, they celebrate food and also people, this is what they actually did today, except for fights, there was no violence, no clashes, we at least we haven't seen this and here they are ensuring law and order . several dozen policemen, studio lera. well, we thank you for such a detailed story and in the future we will inform our viewers about what is happening in the kyiv-pechersk lavra. killed and five wounded in the blast, one more injured in kostyantynivka last day

, the occupiers continued to shell donetsk region, the head of the regional military administration, pavlo kyrylenko, said in kramatorsk the russians damaged eight private houses avdiyivka shelled from tanks there is also damage maryinka krasnohorivka and novomykhailivka vasyukivka zodolivka and zarychna five civilians were injured as a result of a night attack by the russians, the head of the regional military administration oleg sinegubov said in the regional center the occupiers fired nine 10 s-300 rockets and 10 rockets, part of the rockets hit the ground and exploded in the air at the same time as a result of the attack, a civilian object in the city was damaged infrastructure and private residential buildings , three

kharkiv residents were slightly injured and refused hospitalization in the izyum district. according to the president's office, shells hit residential buildings in the village of romovika . the lower khortytsia was also targeted by the russians. it landed in the area of ​​a local farm. previously, in both cases, there were no casualties. the secretary of the city council, anatoly kurtev, reported that as a result of enemy shelling in zaporizhzhia, an infrastructure facility in kherson region was damaged, three people were blown up by russian skill, two were killed, the third was injured, these were energy workers who were working to restore power grids, according to the head of the regional military administration , oleksandr prokudin, and the incident happened in the village positions of pokrovske, medics are already working on the spot , and according to operational information from the general

staff, our defenders have repulsed more than 80 enemy attacks during the day, 22 of them fell on bakhmut, the occupiers continue to storm the city, however, ukrainian heroes are holding the defense in the epicenter of hostilities, the settlements of belohorivka, avdiyivka, tamarenka also remain, the clash is prolonged near the settlements of orichovo-vasilovka, stelmakhivka, berestov steppe, severnoe vodyane and krasnohorivka, our aircraft struck six in areas of concentration of the occupiers, rocket launchers and artillerymen hit control points, six areas of concentration of manpower, four warehouses of ammunition and fuel and lubricants in the zaporizhzhya and kherson regions, the occupiers inflicted fire damage on more than 30 settlements, among them novosilka, novopil, donetsk region, olhivske, magical biloghirya, malotokomanska , novodanilivka, novoandriivka, shcherbaki, zaporizhia region, and

novoaleksandrivka, kozatske, ivanivka, engineering , yantarne and kizomys in the kherson region, and the russians continue to lose themselves in ukraine of the past era 460 occupiers were forever lost in our black soil. in total, our defenders sent 173,360 to the other world without return. also yesterday, ukrainian soldiers destroyed five tanks, three armored combat vehicles, four art systems , nine drones, three units of automobiles and three special vehicles in the general headquarters , all the data are estimated to have been burned for bribery, the security service arrested officials of zhytomyr customs , among them and the head of the institution olga illinska suspect them of systematic extortion, the officials demanded money from local businessmen for what they promised not

to create artificial obstacles during the customs clearance of cargo in case of refusal threatened with additional inspections, delay and downtime such services cost from 200 uah to 400 $ for one declaration the detainees face up to 10 years in prison with confiscation of property the court in the french city of shampouri rejected the request of the ukrainian side to extradite businessman and philanthropist kostyantyn zhivago was informed about this by a correspondent of espresso, the decision was made after a thorough consideration of the case , taking into account the arguments presented by the defense to convince zhivago of the decision of the french court confirms that the case has no legal basis on the contrary - this prosecution contains a political motive today's court decision

is a common sense decision it is the application of the law i am grateful that the arguments of our french lawyers and ukrainian lawyers were heard by the court and i am sure that exactly this decision will now allow the dbr and the prosecutor's office of ukraine to appoint a new review of all the circumstances of the case. may appoint new people to this case so that we truthfully and sincerely looked at the cases in white and white and were able to find a solution that would suit both sides, my effort is that i want to bring it to court as soon as possible, bring it to its logical end and get a judicial decision in ukraine as well. i am sure that nothing i have not done anything illegal in my life and am ready to defend my

position. the prime ministers of slovakia, slovenia and croatia arrived in ukraine. events about the west were not announced publicly, so the arrival of foreign leaders was also not announced ahead of time, that was all the news at this time. the updated edition is already being prepared for you . my colleagues, you will see it at 2 p.m. my colleague anzhelika sezonenko will present it. well , i am iryna koval, saying goodbye to you can read more news on our website espresso tv, a brief summary of the main things on the telegram channel espresso tv and watch us on youtube well, literally in a moment meet

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call welcome to the espresso channel today in our military program we will talk about the military and political reality which is taking place right now in the course of the current hostilities of ukraine against the russian invasion, as the defense of bahmut from a tactical level has grown to a factor of operational or even strategic importance. and how does it affect the position of our allies and enemies and what should happen next and after our expected counteroffensive and the most distant perspective so that ukraine could feel safe, what scenarios for the future kyiv should already be working on together with powerful foreign partners, we will talk about this with our well-known ukrainian my name is serhiy zhorits and i am the director of the information consulting company defense express, which, together with

the espresso channel, tries to highlight the most relevant trends in the field of security and defense. and now we will include our guests in our broadcast, depending on the relevance and the possibility of contacting them, because it is not so easy to establish contact now, and i will start with the actual situation around bakhmut, because this part of the front remains the most relevant not only for the military, but also in humanitarian and in a political sense, because we remember the interview of the president of ukraine and also the press where volodymyr zelenskyi said that if bakhmut was captured by russian troops, then the president of the the federation would sell this victory of the west to its society china and a wound for ukraine. it would be a political defeat. that is, we understand that the political content is related to the hostilities around bachmuth, which is why it is present, and according to zelenskyi, if

ukraine does not win the protracted battle in the key eastern instead, russia can begin to build international support for the agreement, which may require unacceptable compromises from ukraine . assistance from our foreign partners. i honestly do not think that this line is so fine. we remember the statements made by the american military leadership when the head of the joint staff committee, mark milley, said that in the military environment , everyone understands what is actually in retreating from bahmut is a completely logical and justified step , because in war there are various possibilities, the main thing is to understand where the limit of possibilities is in deterring the enemy and how

they even retreated to other positions. in fact , this did not affect the front line in any way but we understand that in addition to the purely military arguments used by our foreign partners, rema, there are also humanitarian and political components about the political component . - after all, russia won some kind of victory, and from the point of view of the humanitarian dimension , we understand that there are actually other cities behind bakhmut, we are also talking about such cities as kostyantynivka, as well as the slavic kramatorsk, which is another line of defense and that is why we will discuss with our guests all the points related to the political and military situation around the city of bakhmut, and now we

are joined first of all by vasyl pavlov , a military historian, the head of the non-governmental organization, the center of military history, as well as the head of the expert group on issues of internal communications of the directorate of information policy of the ministry of defense of ukraine mr. vasyl greetings good day, i would like you to appreciate the things i said earlier. if you have heard about the fact that the management of the country says that the retention of bahmut now solves the main political goal in order not to give the enemy any opportunities to talk about any victory on the one hand, and on the other hand not to create grounds for unacceptable compromises. and in your opinion, is that so much it is such a fine line that obtaining bahmut even

affects the operative such strategic resonances in the perception of this city by our foreign partners in the world war of the history of the world , in any global conflicts where there was a point that was called a counterpoint front, for example, in the second world war, on the soviet-german front, such a point was worzef or stalingrad, during the first world war, such a point was , for example, there was verdun or ypres, that is, there are e-e points where one of the sides tries to make an effort to reach first of all its own internal forces or some political goals, and also, in response to these actions, on our side or on the side of the enemy, this place is transformed, and it also becomes extremely important due to the fact that there are

a lot of factors, which you called it, and political domestic political, foreign political and purely military which affect the course of hostilities and now we see that the situation is under wahmut under cash maryinka here is this corner of the donbass theater, it uh leads to the fact that on all other areas of the front the enemy cannot conduct hostilities, in fact, everything that can act is concentrated under bakhmut, and in other areas of the front, he conducts deterrent actions , as well, you can see that we can see that the intensity of attacks, starting from the beginning of march, is gradually falling, in fact, it

decreased by two times as well, here you are showing a map of the dip-state, according to the advance of the enemy’s troops, we see that the front line is practically unchanged for several weeks, so your battles are going on extremely hard , but we actually do not have any advance by the enemies , is it possible in some way, it is now possible to predict the further actions of the enemy, on the one hand, we understand that the enemy is at exhaustion, on the other hand, putin is signing a decree on conscription, not on mobilization, and we understand that it is time to bring these conscripts to order are sufficiently deferred and does this mean that russia is slowly preparing for a different format? it is a protracted one. this is one component, and the other is actually a transition to the defensive . is it possible to make such assumptions or are they still premature? i would agree with you. i would make assumptions, not conclusions, but assumptions due to the fact that it is now very difficult

to analyze the actions of the russian command because in my opinion they are not completely amenable to analysis because many things contradict even the russian doctrinal document which they published there for the last decades that a draft has been announced in russia, it is interesting. but uh, i would be interested to know whether demobilization has been announced or, shall we say , the termination of service for those military personnel who were recruited in previous periods has been announced, or do they remain uh, if uh, let's say so some of them are demobilized and do not return to the contract, then we see that the number of the russian army does not increase, if they remain, then we receive an additional number of conscripts who will come through

training center and will be able to perform certain functions in the same way in the previous days there was information that russia is allegedly preparing to mobilize 400,000 more of its own citizens during this year for the purpose of conducting hostilities, we do not understand will she succeed, we see that , as of now, the russian training centers are not able to pass through them more than 20 conditional 20,000 per month, that is, these 170,000 that are being recruited, they will not be able to appear at the front at the same time, they will appear gradually, the question to which part of the front are they will be sent, and here again, i agree with you once again that a possible option is that russia is preparing to move to defensive actions or deterrence actions, and uh, have you watched and read the interview of general muzhenko in

denmark, the newspaper facts where he talked about the fact that the operatives actually have about 200,000 reserves accumulated somewhere, this number surprised me a little because, well, according to my estimates, according to the estimates of our colleagues, we are talking about the fact that the enemy there will still receive an ambush on the territory in addition to about 350,000 personnel and in boundaries there are reserves of a certain amount, but not within two hundred thousand, and if we now assume that this preliminary draft will be fully, let's say, directed to the service , we will add 120,000 of these conscripts who will be mobilized, and in any case , we will still get the same ratio of forces that does not allow the operative to further carry out this active offensive action in all five directions where he is now trying to squeeze our defense and then can we really say that this transition to

defense will be more profitable for the enemy and it is more difficult for us because in fact then we will be forced to shape our approach to the conduct of hostilities in a different way, and then the need for the number of personnel to suppress the enemy's defense will increase on our part. and then there will be another pair of hostilities where well, you can argue that it will be more profitable for the enemy to go on the defensive. but are there political reasons, in particular, from putin's side to consider the format of defensive actions, but here i'm just wondering if it is really possible to say that putin is ready or able cancel the task of exiting there and to the border of donetsk and luhansk regions and simply fix the summer front that exists today, what is your vision of this situation

? the forces of ukraine, who would then be forced to take offensive actions, indeed, you correctly pointed out that conducting offensive actions is much more difficult than defending, and for this, a completely different balance of forces is needed , which our military and political leadership says about this e-e stated e-e that a-e is impossible at the moment the armed forces of ukraine are not ready , would the president speak about this first of all is there not a sufficient number of e-e personnel there is not a sufficient number of reserves e-e about the 200,000 that e-e it is possible that the russians have them in reserve here . it is not clear at the moment they have not been recorded anywhere. are they located or are they concentrated compactly or are they scattered over a large area where they are located in the immediate vicinity of the theater of combat

? is it also said in the training camps here um, let's say understand and have more detailed information , which i hope our intelligence has, and it, let's say here, the right time, it will be able to use it, and here it should also be noted that the transition to defense is thanks to , let's say, the russian propaganda machine, they will be able to for a certain time to explain to the own population, i do not say that i will say so for a long time, but to explain to my own people the necessity of this step, if as a result of this transition they will be able to hold the territory, it may even be transformed into an information they are open to victory, and by the way, are these the eyes of medvedev putin’s trip to a number of defense enterprises of the russian federation