[000:00:00;00] in my opinion, it is impossible to do without and guarantee the existence of ukraine as a democratic state. andriy, i absolutely share your approach and your optimism, and i would like to remind you that on the espresso channels, andriy haruk, a professor of the national academy of land forces named after hetman pyotr sagaidachny, was on the air, and the broadcast will be continued by olga len and her chronicles of the information war stay on the espresso channel thank you sergey we will continue in just a moment, congratulations, i already said that the russians in their propaganda, in general, there

we will say their transformation of the information space. now they are building such a system. you know when their internal information space is sufficiently isolated. they try to isolate it as much as possible and saturate it with their narratives, which, well, even somewhere there is for internal use and there is the so-called best panda for the outside world. these are quite two different things, if for the internal space for internal use, they radicalize such, you know, different phobias, there are phobias about europe, about ukraine, er , they have, well, this is just propaganda of hatred in in its pure form, in general, to the whole world, except for some small ones, some of their friends there, china, north korea, and something else to the outside world they increasingly broadcast some such attempts, you know, calls for peace, some kind of struggle for peace, or some such strange soviet narrative well, in principle , which for the soviet union was quite preformed and which they always even

described it like that, you know that all the missiles are concentrated in the east, and for some reason the struggle, the struggle for peace, is all in the west, now they are trying to create this whole thing like this again space to form it to create such a narrative today we will talk about it in more detail but for a start i just want to show you once again how this week is being described in the studio in the scabies battles that are going on under bakhmut and in general on this front because that for some reason it is very active, they are suffering now and talk about how they are missing something there, and this is such a sign this week in the description of the current battles in general , ukrainians feel that they have to economize

on our kit. how about this? it's not easier now is it easier to save money ourselves? well, i know that it is reported that everything is normal in some directions , while everything is not normal . to take, yes, in order to capture a strong point , it is necessary to use more than 1,000 artillery munitions, the military says today. positions for this need a successful counter-battery fight, we are just ukrainian artillery, sometimes a part of everything drives out all the positions that we occupy.

which the department criticizes. well, what does he say ? well, no, the ministry of defense produces ammunition and an intelligence complex , by the way. we are waiting for their order. of defense, but at that time, having all the ammunition, they somehow did not reach kyiv, but now they don’t, and that’s why they also didn’t get anywhere and can’t take anything . well, excellent logic. watch well, now let's get back to what i was talking about, what exactly is being broadcast about some such global issues and global issues. well, how to actually interact with the world and the main issue that worries and is constantly discussed by russian propaganda inside the country it's about whether the west will get tired or not, and if before uh-uh it was always like this, there was a constant narrative that almost

now tomorrow and that's all and they will stop supplying weapons to ukraine, well, from the first day, literally wait another month and they will stop supply here, hop, they supply something again, that's all now and they won't give anything again, it doesn't work out well, this question is tormenting them , tormenting them, and they are trying to discuss it together, one of them jumps there , we found it, here's another thing, you know, look , they talk about the fatigue of the west about the ukrainian crisis is endless, is it the end of the western homeland of ukraine or is it finite? but this is a question of a glass half a bed . well, it will end. in the next situation, when they can’t stop and stop spending, yes, they would have climbed it, they will spend money, and you will waste money in your own economy. you have seen everything. and you have probably read all the protests about the fact that in the country there is a second regiment

within this political stability , in my opinion, they will be hidden for about two or three years , two or three years, this is a fairy tale that will end in an hour or two or it won't end well, it's been 2-3 years, it's changed, now it's thought has changed what was there before 2-3 months, and it's such a serious change, because it's also now constantly being told that no, it's still a long time, you see it not as fast as it was said, this is an attempt to mobilize its own population so that it understands that this is a long story and it is necessary somehow to have a long mobilization . the russians are constantly trying to put forward some, you know such plans and some kind of bargaining. in this regard, it is very interesting to watch what margarita semenyan says, because

she usually voices some such ideas that , as she says, they go to moscow guest houses a-a regarding the fact that it was possible to propose an event so that he would start some kind of negotiations with russia regarding ukraine, but no matter how much they say, there will be no such negotiations, you should talk to ukraine and leave ukraine, no, anyway, the russians are trying to offer something like this, and the last the most recent is that this is that simyan suggested let's buy the territories in general well something like that is a completely new situation i offer a way out means they pay this money on account of our purchase of those

territories those lands that want to be with us it's a principle we need those who wants to be with us, we don't need strangers lviv is not personally needed why do we need these people who hate us but the people who should be with us want to be on their land, at the same time, so that they don't get hurt, they can call it reparations, they have already started writing about it, and we we will call it simply a purchase and the wolves are full and the sheep are whole. well, this is all called the tour stage, that is, before they generally said that no, we will not be, we will conquer everything, and now they have moved into the torque stage, let's exchange something for something. of course, this is all a complete delusion, because everyone the money that they, uh, they have blocked there, that they want to return , of course, will go to reparations, but not for the territory, but simply because they destroyed what we had here and we will have to

rebuild it and a week earlier, the same margarita semenyan talked about holding referendums, and this is also the position that the russians are trying to push through their representatives there, and let's say agents of influence in the west. look at how it sounds, you know what kind of compromise it can be that won't be. seems to have agreed, never agree, and this referendum is frozen . the hostilities are stopped at the point where they are now by both sides, and the cleanest, cleanest referendum is held in the regions the most honest and cleanest of ukraine, with one question, under the condition of the end of hostilities. do you want to remain part of ukraine , part of russia, the point of this referendum is that the regions that want to be part of russia are transitioning to part of russia without hostilities, all i have is a device, well, they went throughout the territory of ukraine because they never that's just not done

, never always referendums if they are held in territories that are not occupied anywhere and even for example there was such a story when deo bought croatia its territories yes, in general, elections were held there two years after the deoccupation, we are not even talking about some kind of referendum, the election will be here as well, only the entire army will be withdrawn in two years, maybe we will hold some kind of elections there and we will ask someone there before that as the population there will not be completely restored, people will not return , some kind of normal life will not begin. nothing can be held anywhere and never, and then if you are already talking about a referendum, let's hold a referendum on the territory of russia let's have it let's talk about it. do they want to be a part of russia? do the territories of russia want to be part of russia? it would be interesting to see if we are already talking about some referendums. well, actually, all

these things are about what, why are they suddenly coming out with all this. well, it is. this is due to the fact that in fact no one is talking to them about anything now, and the attitude that exists in the west is quite rigid and is also recognized in principle in russia , approximately there . organs tell me how much еще мы собираеемся оказывать полындлизу in the soviet union, we will supply weapons, food, trucks, in which we will not now have a very simple answer until fascism is defeated , until we do it for the dun, that's how tough it is, now the position of the west

is the only thing they are waiting for and what russia is hoping for is changes in the elites in the west, and that's why russia is currently putting a lot of effort and effort into destabilizing the situation in the west, and in principle, they too. well, they show a lot about what riots happened there they took place here, then in france, then somewhere else, with such an expectation that something will happen right now. well, as a rule, nothing happens , but that does not prevent them from talking about it until the orthodox easter. here is how it seems to me that an urgent but well-thought-out, but urgent change is being made to

the strategy of circumventing the west from russia and china. the most damning thing is that it does not suggest that the european nations will begin to overthrow their governments, but we see there, well, johnson was there, they removed the soap and changed it to soap, but in general, all these strikes are a manifestation, a demonstration, and nothing real. led by waiting waiting but well, no, it doesn’t work out, and this is really, well, the main strategy of the russian federation now is to wait for it to try to achieve some kind of change in the elite, which was not so favorable to ukraine, and there is also such an interesting thing, in view of the fact that in general is highlighted and what does er-e is aimed there at the western world in general to the world infospace russia - this is an event that happened literally

yesterday , journalists were arrested in russia for two months e zavol strizho e eva na horshkevich he hails from russia from a family of soviet emigrants speaks russian well he has been living there for several years and works in the russian federation , his arrest was announced on the morning of march 30 , the fsb said that the journalist, on the instructions of the american side, was collecting information that constitutes a state secret about the activities of one of the enterprises of the russian military-industrial complex, the moscow court arrested him until may 29. the walstries magazine has already rejected accusations of russian espionage and demands the release of journalists . politicians have joined these demands, and it is interesting that it was this journalist who co-authored the article about the imminent collapse of the russian economy. it appeared in the newspaper in on wednesday, that is, the article came out right before the arrest, and it is even more interesting that this

article strongly stands out from such a whole series of articles that were published in various mass media of different countries of the world about how this is profitable russia is being dragged down as russia, uh, how well is she doing economically? how long can she resist? there were also all these articles, and here a strijhonnal of the completely opposite content of the material is published, and the person who wrote it is immediately arrested for the fact that he is working on them. topics, this was not news, he really traveled , got information, learned about it , and now let's look at a small plot, eh . in march, he gave an interview to herkovych, and how he talks about him, at the same time you will feel how it is to work now for foreign journalists in

russia, spryzers, yes, you are mraz, yes , you are working here for money and blackmailing our family. they're going to go crazy, haven't you guessed, that's why they don't give you a medal for this. but here in the sverdlovsk region , there are a lot of enterprises, they probably work there in 2-3 shifts . i i love agriculture , they will sow wheat , i’m saying that you supported us on the hunger strike. веребольная а всё живут комплектую s- now you don't get there to repair machine tools for such interviews , this journalist was arrested and actually

i wonder what it is because i don't think it's only there is the creation of an exchange fund of the russians are the stones of their spies and about this in particular and also in general about the entire e-e information company of e-e russians at the event we will talk with love in chibulska this is an expert cupcake countering disinformation ex-head of the center for strategic communications and information security greetings, love. well, do you read the whole story , tell me what you think about the arrest of this journalist, so that it could mean good afternoon. i think that the nuts and bolts of doing independent, free, objective journalism it is impossible in russia, and this is a signal to journalists and the western government that such activity will not be tolerated in any way, and not only that the ego was not taken as a kind of hostage. and i believe that

the accusations themselves in other words, being a spy is up to 20 or 25 years, it seems like a sentence of years of imprisonment, and now the whole world is listening . in addition, we know that the west is very active in explaining and restricting russian media . explaining the danger of russian media does not in their countries, and this is also such a symmetrical response from russia. well, it also seems to me that this is an attempt to generally limit the flow of information from russia from independent sources, in principle, because the articles that we now see in the west are very often written out of communication with that people traveled somewhere and found out, but simply with communication with russian officials, what can be written after such communication, you and i are fine . we imagine it, that is

, it is impossible to write anything reliable. and here is the arrest of a person who was engaged in work in the fields. no, you can't travel and work, but limit yourself to what, well, that is, study again the arrangement of these people on the mausoleum, you remember, it has become a totalitarian state , this is already north korea and it does exactly the same things to journalists as what is done in north korea, only i think that the scale of this is even more serious, and here it is in