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[000:00:00;00] uh, i just wanted to after the 18th year, when the autocephalous canonical orthodox church of ukraine was created with the help of the soviet patriarchate, this problem will intensify , that is, within the ukrainian orthodox church , the authorities allowed. they are citizens of ukraine, but they were induced to be like that , they were trained and set up against constantinople and against the orthodox church of ukraine, and actually this bubble works until now there is a government - it didn't really do much after even after 2014 and we are beginning to see the fruits of this a-a and when everything has already started enough and now er-e another factor is added to this that in my opinion a-a the orthodox church of ukraine is not always
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helps people a-a inside the uoc mp treat yourself positively. for example, these are the actions of the orthodox church of ukraine to establish a parallel a-a brotherhood inside the lavra of creating brothers. so far, there is only one person left to join her . i hope that more monks will join. to our community, it's ptsu, but so far it works in the modality of competition of such competition between structures, not the modality of dialogue and cooperation, but in the modality of competition and a certain portulism, but now i have the opportunity to seize someone's territory, i will take advantage of this opportunity and that's how it was the uoc operated in such a manner as the uoc during yanukovych's time. this is how they tried to wring out the territory and communities from the kyiv patriarchate . unfortunately, this modality has not changed much, and it is not very
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good, that is, internal factors and what the uoc is talking about what is inside the ukrainian orthodox church or information bubbles that to this day influence the consciousness of many people and set them against constantinople against the ptu against all those who support the ptu of global orthodoxy on the one hand and on the other hand it does not always seem to me to be well entertained politics on the part of the ukrainian orthodox church, for example, the last episode is the capture of the last uoc temple in ivano-frankivsk, which was quite brutal, this case, all these factors create a situation where we still do not see the light at the end of the tunnel. prospects for the consolidation of ukrainian orthodoxy, these are the last steps. and the last episodes in the ivano-frankivsk period are delaying the process of consolidation of ukrainian orthodoxy .
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for any canonicality. yes, you can say why they believed that exactly with the canonical , what to say, yes, they want to, they interpret it now in their canonical, that they belong to the uoc , actually, the uoc has now crossed over and turned into such a structure in which certain figures identify themselves with the church, and this is exactly how it is perceived both inside the church and outside there are churches. well, for example, inside the uoc there are actually a lot of people, including monks at the end of the kiev-pechersk lavra, with an identity without metropolitan onuphrius and it is no longer important for them. is this structure canonical or does it communicate with universal orthodoxy ? what is important is that they are with the metropolitan's grandson .
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on the word a little resembles a certain sect, this is such a sectarian consciousness , there is a charismatic religious leader and we follow them. and many of those who accused the uoc there are talking about collaboration , they are talking about fs, horsemen in fringes, etc. come on, pavlo, this is so perfect, in quotation marks , of course, the speaker on behalf of the uoc, when it is very convenient to identify the entire uoc with pavel, so to speak look at what paul says, as if the whole church or the whole monastery says this, but it is not so because metropolitan paul represents only himself. he does not even represent the monastery because he is the governor. he does not represent himself like that when he is a member of the holy synod of the uoc mp well, but he is among many members among many others of the church. and metropolitan onufriy, that
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is the problem with the church, because this is the problem of this church, that it allows itself to be identified with individual figures, first of all with such as metropolitan pavlo, despite the fact that within the church there is growing dissatisfaction with onuphrius and paul, and by the way, they are now talking more about it, but literally today , a very important statement appeared from the clerics of the uoc and the ukrainian orthodox church condemning acts of violence even by the orthodox church , and it even sounds open this is a very important step, it indicates that within the church of both ukrainian churches a movement is growing , a non-hierarchical movement that is trying to convey its position, that speaks a sign, signals to ukrainian society, see here's what they do and say there on the mountain, this is not all about the church, the church is wider , then there are the statements of uoc clerics who, er, criticized the activities of er, including members of the synod and their statements there, and appealed to onufry with
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demands to respond to the criticism from below, which is already getting louder in the messiah of the church, the problem is that metropolitan onuphrius does not always hear this criticism, and this is the problem of this structure, it is identified in us with its leader, and where the leader goes, where, as it were, the church goes, there is a division within the church uoc and i do not know where it is, what it is divided, you are going, who may not represent the uoc mp, er, metropolitan pavlo may not even represent metropolitan onufriy, but what exactly represents the church is the cathedral, the last cathedral of the uoc mp, which was the first week after the war, in fact at the beginning of the war, he had every opportunity to adopt those documents that would remove the question marks from the society, the unclassified statutes with the e-e mention of the program of patriarch oleksiy ii. these are attempts on the one hand
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to declare that we independently i'm saying, let's be clear, here we are, the ukrainian church, we are ready for negotiations with the world orthodoxy, we are ready for our own negotiations with the ecumenical patriarch, there is nothing to this , by and large, everything that these people say, all those who are against them, in principle , question the authority of world orthodoxy , she says, we call the ecumenical patriarch that way, by and large, they oppose the canons in the same way as the synod of the russian orthodox church, a member of which, i will remind you again, is metropolitan onuphrius - this is also a fact it is not always from him and no one tells him, well, listen, maybe you can get out eventually a year after the start of the war. well, at least say that you are getting out. well, why not , you mean, first of all, obviously , the meeting of the synod, which is not a cathedral. no, i mean
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if it was held in france, it turned into a cathedral, there was a cathedral, there was a synod, then there was a local cathedral of theophany, there was a cathedral of the 22nd year , when really it can be called a cathedral , even if it is not quite a statutory statutory assembly , nevertheless it was, it had more representativeness, and it was precisely at this cathedral there was an attempt to distance ourselves from moscow when decisions were made to erase all references to such explicit references to the connection with moscow and present it as separation from moscow of course it was not quite a-but not quite complete separation it was a sincere attempt er, move away from moscow, distance yourself from moscow , but the attempt is not complete, and this church remains . it’s all the same as part of the moscow patriarchate. in my opinion, this cathedral was a very important step on
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the way to what we want, including that ukrainian society wants from the ukrainian orthodox church very clear positions of very clear condemnation, certain positions were expressed quite clearly, we must give credit regarding the war, aggression , regarding ukraine, the future of ukraine , etc. but not all the necessary steps have been taken, i completely agree with this is exactly the problem of this church, that it is not consistent in implementing what many people inside this church want, and that is not always represented by members of the synod of synods who recently went to the presidential administration and arranges the standing is large. on the banks, no, no, it is not growing to its full extent. and neither metropolitan pavlo nor metropolitan onufriy is the problem of this church, that this church is largely without a voice, there are individual spokespeople who discredit their church more than others. and a significant number of people what they think they can't express it, they don't have these tools to express it, this is the problem of this church . thank you, kirill, the talkative archimandrite
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of the philosophical and professor of the sokgol school of theology - the head of the department of external church relations of the uoc mp from the eighth to the ninth year yes, my word is this: long live orthodox ecumenism in ukraine, let them somehow come to an agreement there, because we have questions, and among the questions, by the way, there are these topics that we just touched on . let's start answering the questions. how do you evaluate nuclear rhetoric ? lukashenka , we talked about it. it seems to me that germany will help modernize the ukrainian gas transportation system for the transportation of hydrogen, that is, in our country , it will be produced with the help of a nuclear power plant, not the most dangerous way production of electricity and to europe and those are a safe product. that is, cars there will run on hydrogen with a zero level of carbon emissions. how do you feel about such prospects
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for joint cooperation? this is what zoryana is writing to us. cars will drive that run on gasoline and diesel, there simply won't be anywhere left, we won't get anywhere, i mean ukrainian civilization because the world will switch to electric, hydrogen, to such on which on the fifth to the tenth the first period is probably really very cheap in ukraine will buy a gasoline car because millions of europeans will refuse it, but in the second stage everyone in the world will drive as they do today in china, in europe, in ukraine , there are many electric cars or hybrid cars in america, there are many of them, that is , anyway, civilization sooner or later touches
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everyone that's why i don't think it's necessary. as the wonderful ukrainian prime minister said, smart ukrainians can, sooner or later, they will take care of what they will still drive the same cars as in poland, germany, france in america and yes so on and so on. i think it's the ex-president of the united states, if you don't have a shock. exclusive to consumption, trump was also accused of taking money from the election fund of the 16th year to pay a full-figured actress to remain silent. about his sexual relationship with her is the first time in history when a current or former president faced criminal charges on tuesday he was allowed to appear in court without handcuffs you can already put a cross on trump's attempts to make america great again and just
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professor eisenberg explained to us that yes, what is there? tens of millions will love trump no matter what. it is already a question of how american institutions work to prove to these supporters. i think that it will not be possible to prove the transparency of what will happen during the trial, to prove that it is really he deserves that judicial term, that is , that term or fine or something else that he can receive in the case of proving that the president of the united states can run for office both under investigation and under trial and even from prison, moreover, if you imagine that this american legislation is arranged in such a way that the american president cannot be sued, that this constitutes national security, yes, yes, because to imagine that president trump is
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a former president is under investigation, and at this moment such a person is elected the president of the united states, after all, he can completely safely freeze this case at least until the end of his term of office. yes, but the main problem that can send i now mean only the new york court, because there are still many states in which there is something, but simply by law, if they definitely give him this, well, it's not a trap, he will be released even without bail, according to the laws of the state of new york, bail is not given in such cases, but he will be required to be the state is constantly in new york, the question is how will he be able to conduct his election campaign if he will not be able to travel with the united states and will be forced to sit in the state of new york, and that is enough, such
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a controversy may arise, well, the only option is that he can still be in georgia somehow invite to the court and then he will be able to travel from the state to new york , the state of george , because both there and there he has court cases. politicians in general are afraid that this case will overshadow other things, and that case is much more important because it gives an assessment of what happened from the point of view of the seizure of power . about the fact that the channels that are considered to be affiliated with opposition parties, including the espresso au channel, were not officially invited to participate in the unified broadcast
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. i wonder how you assess the level of freedom of the press in ukraine. free press for me, for example, it is quite difficult, i have little idea of ​​it, but the thing is that, for example, i just did not follow it , i had my own affairs a year ago, a little more, i just do not know whether the espresso and the direct and the fifth refused by themselves or they are not they were invited, they were not invited. yes, i would say that this is beautiful, beautiful pluralism and a great option when there is a channel that can afford not to participate in common life , this was accompanied by a disconnection from digital broadcasting, and not just uninvited , for example, i am now his mykola, he is not about digital broadcasting about what i think if
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i am pro-digital broadcasting i did not say a single word, i said that if there are such channels and other channels in the country, it is much better than when there are only such channels in the country and no others i exist at least everything and if there is already a layering in the form of separation from this, that is another question, is it fair, my answer is no, it is unfair not to give the opportunity to speak on digital platforms okay, no, this is a question of fairness for me, the question looks like this, when the background was created, these channels who were invited to the marathon they stayed on their frequencies and simply on these frequencies the marathon began to be broadcast with the participation of these channels and the channels that were not invited to the marathon they did not stay on these frequencies who were excluded from those frequencies and began to broadcast other television channels on their frequencies for their money, which is called raiding with the participation of officials, and
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it must be clearly stated that none of these officials are you, this is also an important thing because we were there at a meeting of the committee on freedom of the press where there were all the officials, all the departments, and they all refused. yes, it’s not us, it’s not us, i’m not, i don’t have a house. who is it that allows us to talk about gross bureaucratic arbitrariness and the fact that this is not just a question of a partially free press? and this is an attempt by certain circles to use a war with one's own political interests, which of course are actions of an anti-state nature. whoever is responsible for these actions, of course, after the war, these people, whatever positions they held today, will be responsible for all their actions, and not only to us, but to those who today call this press partial war if these people think that they will be in power even if their photos are now appearing in the best publications in the world, they are making the same gross political mistake.
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they did before the war without being aware of its dangers, it is simple and this and what does it say about the difficult situation ukraine is in today and in what difficult situation it will be although it is still far from that and what can we say about it now after the war ends action against everything, but still, many channels are better than unanimity, any region, the state and the state behave badly, but from the third side, i ask people who really want to receive information, they have the opportunity to listen, and espresso, apparently, having made an effort it is the state's task to do it. they didn't make an effort, so the state made an effort. i agree. that's all, but i'm just saying that now
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, i'm happy. it would be difficult for me to imagine myself and i would have a hard time imagining you . participation in the formation of society in marathon, the marathon would be different and we would not have the danger of authoritarianism after the end of hostilities, because we understand that many people around the current government dream of such a structure of power that will duplicate the government of this country that wants to destroy ukraine. that's all okay, tatiana, gentlemen, will the efforts of ukrainian diplomats to strengthen the russian federation from the presidency of the un not in the un but in the security council, oh not my version, unfortunately, they will be 100% successful, that's why that it is really necessary to do a serious fundamental reform of the organization, it is necessary to either close it and come up with something else that is not similar to the un , not similar to the league of nations, but similar to something third , which is very difficult, or to make such a revolution
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inside, leaving it all, which is difficult for me i imagine it now, there are practically no such realistic mechanisms, there is a ukrainian version that is supported by many countries, perhaps even dozens of countries, but it is still not a passable option and you should not think that russia is sleeping at this moment, russia is currently running between latin america, africa and asia countries and persuades and persuades persuades and says even sometimes pays such a state as vanuatu, for example, so that vanuatu does not support the idea of ​​reforming the un, what to do with those religious priests in the uoc, which are and were patriots of ukraine, have never professed the russian world, but at the same time they do not recognize the psu of the canonical church. they have some kind of, as it seems to me, especially not coming to
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the epiphany. it is obvious that these people will not go by the power of the dopts, and the more they are called to transition , the more they perceive it's like pressure in me. by the way, i don't have any questions about the short scenario that olga drew for us. it seems true to me. yes, and there is no way out, and it's very difficult, and i really hope . by the way, i really hope for caution. that the world has never seen bloodier than some religious wars, it is very dangerous and it is very necessary here , and there is no recipe, you know, there is no such textbook. where is the first step, the second step, the third step, and it is without error, it is very difficult, it is living people and you
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you ask the question correctly. i don't see it in every e-program. well, when it comes to church matters, they say that it is not necessary, and what govorun said to us should not be equated with bishop pavel of the uoc mps, since he is very active, he constantly says something to people and the number of believers who help the ukrainian army, the number of grassroots priests who collect volunteer help, who do many, many positive things , we don't see them, we don't talk about them, and we, that is, journalists are also to blame here , absolutely because journalists show pavlo pavlo, the enemy of ukraine, questions no, he writes it himself on his forehead in big church slavonic letters. i don't like this country. i don't like it. i love moscow. i don't want to know anything except moscow, none of these
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constantinoples. yes, but i think there are dozens hundreds of thousands of tens of thousands of other people and maybe millions of other people who also go to the church of the moscow patriarchate and do not support this invasion of the russian federation . what will italy say or excuse the journalists? i can say that i personally tried to talk to various hierarchs of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate and invite them to the participation of ethers and others and always received a refusal from russia yes yes he is going very hard they are going very hard and him they will say and that it will be very similar to what metropolitan pavlo says, it will simply look different, first, second, there is a huge problem with the identity of a person who rests on the church as a sect, it is simply necessary to understand, we can even read wonderful people that they are ukrainian citizens, that they are ukrainian patriots all this will be true, but there is a part of their
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identity that is connected with the fact that they perceive this church, the moscow church, as their home, and this is reality. and by the way, a very dangerous reality for me, the future of that that i always give the example of montenegro, where president bilojokanovych ensured independence there, everyone voted for independence, everyone voted for membership in nato, the majority of his party was in power for 30 years until he touched the property interests of the serbian orthodox church, now that is the problem, yes he lost power and now he is losing the presidential election because it turned out that for his compatriots, their identity is linked by the text and the orthodox church is more important than the montenegrin national identity not for everyone but for such a number of people as is sufficient to deprive him of power for the majority because the interests of a part of these montenegrins coincided with
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the interests of the serbian and pro-russian forces . this church identity is connected with the uoc-mp may coincide with the interests of supporters of anti-ukrainian forces, and when these people unite, they will lead the council of those who will improve relations with russia even after i don't know war, i don't, i don't believe it, but everyone has their own point of view. i'm just a variant of the development of events, but let's not forget that montenegro has a population of 640,000 in ukraine, after all, there are millions and millions of millions, but the largest church jurisdiction in our country remains the moscow ukrainian orthodox church the church of the moscow patriarchate, the orthodox church of ukraine cannot even conditionally compare with it in terms of the number of believers, it cannot fill the monastery in the lavra, this is all true. maybe it will be different in time, but it still needs to be done survive and because what needs to be done i believe that firstly we should ban the russian orthodox church and not upcment the russian
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orthodox church on our land, secondly we should clearly ensure that the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate is really canonically severed from the moscow orthodox church as it is already a matter of power and the legislator , but she must refuse not only he will try to convince onufry and the second moment the second moment the third moment if she renounces the uoc from the rpc, she simply becomes orthodox a church, but a canonical church, the state recognizes the orthodox church of ukraine on the basis of the tomos that was given to the state and the people and the church to the patriarchs of constantinople. academic doubts from the state on the subject are always given to the state and the people. so in all the orthodox countries of the world, and the russian language can be said to be faithful . and in some orthodox countries, it is part of the official legislation has already been passed by everyone. but something they are not passing. so
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, i am simply saying in different ways what a legal solution to the problem might look like, or a legal solution now i i think that legally it is important but but not but with and it is not important because people do not want to look at jurisprudence, we end our actions on this but we will return to this because there will still be crisis moments of the church and there will still be constant so we are so mystical ended optimistically that we will be able to agree on all the best, it is difficult to talk about what you feel when you have urinary incontinence, an unpleasant situation can
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