[000:00:00;00] well, it's hard for me to imagine that in some country, i don't know. in the kingdom of the netherlands, there was a public council under the ministry. i don't know if there is even a public council under the ministry. well, it's possible. if it exists. well, for sure . there aren't two public councils and a bunch of people. but the order is still there. well, there is a question. with this how do you feel about such a large number of public service councils uh yes well the whole issue can be considered from different angles as far as i know they do not receive any funds it is such a volunteer work but then the purpose of the creation well if they positioned there one council as anti-corruption. maybe they have a narrow direction. this is just the public council under the ministry of defense. i know that there are many ex-servicemen there, and they are more concerned with veterans' issues, in fact, and maybe with all-army issues, maybe corruption, too, and more likely, this kind of opposition to the corps

is also visible in some their plans and actions, but this is not the main direction that the public council under the ministry of defense is working on - this is the main where does it enter many many participants, we suspect you, you say, but we hope that the military will return and go to the state structures. and now it seems to me that we want to put so much everything on the military , uh, well, they are actually doing more work now, you do, and then the priest goes to church, they kick him out , they beat him, and then will come to the ministry, put things in order and elect a deputy. well, then why are all the other honorable people needed? well, the officials and everyone should get involved here, because people's control, well, through public councils, through various instruments, it must also be there, you can't sit and wait while these passionaries and themselves there

they will fight with everything in the world, they will figure it out. and then i will live in a beautiful country, so that's right. it's the same task for the whole society, it's the same as joining nato . nato is part of this society, that is, in this institution, all the directions that exist in the state led what is taken care of and accepted, so it is important here that it is also about changes in the state, about reforms, about individual changes, maybe such that there are no and in in other countries, we need to go further to make life better than where we are, of course, we are convinced that our ukraine should be the best, and we are pro-nationalists of ukrainians, that's why this is a task for everyone, and everyone needs to think about what i can

put into it. at least a small step at least there is some plan to start implementing, but it’s all a movement in the right direction, and the mood is... you still wanted to say something about finland. oh , let’s start with a flat one about finland. and i’ll continue. our question well, because we are already curious about ourselves. that is, this somehow changes the situation itself and what we can see now, and i will add, mr. serhiy, that if i do not remember in our country, i will now tell you how much russia , ukraine, the length of the land border . maybe you know, you know, it seems 17 has a length of 2,200 by sea and 1,974 by land is the border with ukraine, so the border with finland is 1,271 not much less , so now russia will border more precisely with the nato alliance, that is, putin

fought very hard that we do not want nato to approach us to our russia, now they fought for that and now they got plus 1271 even 72 km they will have an additional border that will change politically strategically and in the military plan because well, they don't have to guard the border with nato, that is, spend extra on their military personnel to place on the border and how is this a geostrategic defeat of russia unequivocally uh i believe that russia fought what they wanted to uh achieve with these rude statements like take your backstage get somewhere go somewhere in the end this is this brutal boorish politics, he committed these crimes, they encouraged such neutral countries, which for many, many years, in principle, defended their neutrality , one way or another, to move faster to finland, and experts said that finally this is

an end to finland in the finnish -russian war, there is still the russian-finnish war of 39 year, which then began and ended with the annexation of part of the territory of finland. by the way, and then, this country was forced to proclaim neutrality, in principle, it was under great pressure from the soviet union . today, finland is suffering from this. it came off because it is clear that the european nations are civilized and democratic, they must live by the rules, they must create some kind of ecosystem for themselves, where the law was the main one, where the person would be the center of all the attention of society and the states, and finland, i want to live like that we live the way russia lives, where they have prostates, the horrors that you and i all see for ourselves

today , we are opening up, so it seems to me that russia's defeat here is clearly obvious. not all of them such a quick but very important serhiy djerchu, a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine and the head of the public league ukraine nato. i just think that we have about the same scenarios, and especially the same scenario as the soviet union about itself in finland, and finland has now joined nato. but for how many years? and we have such a way of communicating this finnish people's republic , relatively speaking, in lugandon, if you watch films, there are documentaries, who are interested , look, i watched it too, you just watch me i think that the damn thing is the same with us. it's just one-on-one under a copycat, everything is just war and zhukovschyna, the resolution of warriors has not changed. but just how many years have passed since then for finland to join nato, i wish

we had something faster 75 we hope that what will happen sooner than us, or there will be no more nato, will there be some alternative or, in fact, now each country is helping us individually, not as a nato subject, so well, mykhailo, tell me if there is a volunteer with us there in avdiivka , they are creating a point of invincibility while they are closing those points of indomitability that were created in all cities when they were winter and cold and dark in our country. mykhailo what is there in avdiivka? please tell me . take a shower, wash things, collect drinking water and just chat because they are always in the basements, and we are in the dark. you know, it is very difficult because the city is constantly being shelled, the aircraft is bombing

and it is very difficult to run over, but despite it's all people go get water, food and everything you need , well, it's a film, here we try to cheer people up and give hope, and it works and works for us because that's how the taxi looks at you at your smile sunny warm and you think that it's not avdiivka which er, they are bombing and shooting, and maybe somewhere abroad some point poland mykhailova please tell me this point is in the basement i understand correctly, that is, it is not in an open area, it is in the basement it was safer to cover everything with bags so that people could find themselves in safety, but still we see how the houses are being destroyed. because after the airstrikes, the houses are simply folded for

the seventh sower. we hope that god will save us, these people, and everything will be fine. in italian, the head of the military administration of avdiivka talked about this story with the child, which became known to the whole world when the mother, well, even the child was not shown . she was never touched, why do i have to go now, the child died the day before, unfortunately, vitaliy barabash said that the x-59 missile seemed to have flown directly into this house, and the child's grandmother still cannot be found, even where is her body, how common is this phenomenon and how much will it be how to treat this story, how to convince, how to convince people i understand that we are all fatalists to some extent well, but children are definitely innocent and should not suffer from our position, please, first of all i want to say that

children are hostages of parents in such places hostages of parents and not only small children here and adults who do not want to leave their old parents and this is a big problem , we are working, but i want to say that in order to convince people that they left, we need to get a little closer to them, we communicate with people every day, they we begin to be friends with us, we begin to come closer to them and understand their problems, and thus we can persuade them to leave, they trust us and then they leave. so we worked in bakhmut. we took a lot of people out like that this way and that way, we work in the water and people are already leaving the facility , our volunteers take them with them and go to ivano-frankivsk where they provide housing, separate housing for people

, they meet us and that's how we work and try to touch their hearts, it's very important what are you doing there, what are you giving them some goods? yes, what services do you have, what services does your point provide, please show on the advertising rights, we have points , food, food, well, it's bread, uh, canned goods. they also brought 300 kg of sesis, which we will also prepare, for quick cooking. to people get ready like tea coffee and tv on which the news is the only news the only marathon on which people are watching well now i will also show you a room where er installation

a natural machine uh you look shower cabins yes and also installed shih people could long their hair and this hair dryer there yes hair dryer i eat wash sleep i can't sleep there i can't put you there we work with this because it's a very small room but we already wait i'll let you know this is how i understand the well you're right there raising water

from the ground right yes yes yes we are the kitchen yes, we understand. it shows. the kitchen is rising, mykhailo. i will ask you to move. where were you? there was a beautiful connection and i wanted to ask you one more question. we basically saw what it looks like. yes, stop. yes , so that we i just heard you now, so i wanted to ask one more question. this is the only thing i will clarify . you have a well right in the center, and you raise water, and you use this water. yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, i just yesterday, we showed a video of one, there is such an association of charitable funds called food it's sand жизни is a russian charitable fund that distributes everywhere, including in mariupol, and if you have it there, and we saw a selection of products there, there are sausages and bread, and very clean and beautiful, then they simply distribute porridge on the street from such and such plastic buckets with such and such ladles

and buns, and they say every wednesday, once a wednesday, come, come to our point, you will have buns and uh, things like porridge. how do you assess the humanitarian situation in the occupied regions, in particular, in mariupol, why , well, why is there no such thing as as in to the ukrainian audiologist, this is this, this is the video, there are 200 or 250 people in line, and it's just from now we'll see from plastic, from plastic, such cans are used for people. why why well, the children are so happy to answer this, between what's in avdiivka and what's in mariupol, well, what's your explanation? first of all, i try not to watch the news, everything related to mariupol

, because it's my city, which i love. i well i don’t watch at all because you are already in our life and there is so much negativity, a lot of pain, and to watch the news too, so that later, in order to be more disappointed, i better go and see it and do it so that it is better, so that people feel better than mariupoli and the people of mya the thought is that what is happening there it hurts me to watch even now you just showed me and i just it hurts me to look at the area at these people who are in mariupol whom i know who do you know me it hurts well we thank you for what you are doing no so a k- radically different in our way

to the ukrainian thank you, return your smile because you are there to cheer up people's children and children , probably in avdiivka, the indomitable point, we can see what it looks like for people who can come there and get normal food , get a shower, a place to rest and watch tv. thank you to such people , volunteer mykhailo puryshev, i was really moved for a person, what is happening in his native city of mariupol hurts, well, it's really sad to watch on the spot, i'm in tears to the kiev-pechersk lavra, i think that it will hurt us too when we go there and see all these buildings that we talked about, how much was built there and how much it is still possible, all that valuable store was stolen from their estates, well, it was hot, we will remind you in a week

there were journalists there, and our journalist valeriya pashko also received a little bit of this grace from pasha, the abbot of the so-called lavri, and he pushed like that with a microphone, well, for them, forces are involved, and there is no aggression at all. our valery pashko will tell you about the lavra. on march 29, the representatives of the moscow patriarchate had to leave part of the premises of the kyiv-pechers lavra, because the contract for the lease of the premises had expired, but the monks, especially the leadership , did not want to leave the place they had prayed for. therefore, to protect, as they say, their lavra , they gathered believers from with icons and crosses in hands , first the entrance went russian prayer and raised tones, i am not ukraine, our country, from our ukrainian land, no one

has the right to deny us, let's go down in history, well then the believers of the uoc continued to sing easter prayers. although it was more than two weeks before the holiday itself, they declared that it was a powerful prayer against all unclean things. hey, christ is risen. what is your goal to protect the church ? in order to expel the unclean from pro-ukrainian activists and journalists, unknown people in cassocks began

to bless everyone with water. the journalist reached the lavra more than once. followers of the uoc mp pushed media representatives, tried to damage the equipment, they knocked the microphone out of their hands and constantly threatened. but with a curse on all your sweat, the operator of the uoc monks never left the territory of the lavra . will remain until march 29, 2045, secured by a lawsuit. and what is a lawsuit after lawsuit refused

or not, that is, you will stay at this level, i have no right to stay here until the court's decision, because it will be an illegal act until then on the territory of the lavra temples, the commission of the ministry of culture, which was supposed to accept the transfer of state property, could not start work due to the large number of believers, its members could not get into the middle of the buildings for two days in a row , the commission submitted a report to the police. the work is planned for three months, at least the first day this is how i think people are blessing our righteous cause. there are legal methods and legal actions, and the provision and activities on the other side of the obstruction will already be carried out by law enforcement agencies until the law enforcement officers of the situation intervened in the task

the police are only to ensure law and order in the parliament predict that the return of the property of the lavra to the state may not happen soon and that the process is very difficult, not all of it is public. laurel in such a sensitive issue, which our enemies will definitely hunt on the international arena, maybe really we will have to, well, the state will have to go to court, hold the court decision, and then come to the court bailiffs in the meantime more and more monks of the lavra are transferring from the uoc to the orthodox church of ukraine. on march 29, on the day of the eviction , archimandrite avraamiy announced this desire and called on all the brothers to follow his example, for which pavlo lebid has already managed to call him a jew. they are still trying to convince us that the only reason for these events is the attitude of the state, however it is necessary to timely recognize our until now vicars of the sacred beginning in

the person of the metropolitan and the synod step by step formed the sum the situation in which we found ourselves instead of dialogue closedness and threats are those monks who join our local ukrainian orthodox church, and we know that there are many monks there who expect that we, as a ukrainian church, will get a place , we will get a temple, and we will get appropriate premises in order to continue monastic life , this is an irreversible process, we see who has been gathered there from with what sentiments with anti-ukrainian sentiments. that is, it is practically anti-maidan during this brutal war, after the eviction of the uoc-mp from the lavra

, prayers will continue to be heard in the ukrainian shrine, but no one will speak for the russian aggressor pray will not be transmitted, you will die all the time this son of the holy spirit viktor yagun joins the deputy head of the security service of ukraine security of ukraine military public figure and not victor thank you for waiting good afternoon good afternoon major general of the reserve of the security service of ukraine not the genetics of ukraine just like that we are here from geography that only the security service , well, law enforcement agencies are now busy because it will all take a very long time, this is what is happening . the end of some sort of finalize this story, what to do well, first of all, we need to adopt a law prohibiting the activities of this pseudo -religious structure, we need to start with this, and i don’t know how to introduce a goat around this story.

such events, and it is even certain that if the other side is not present, if there is less media, media attention , then they themselves diverge, they are now just playing with all this media space of ours , our democracy, and they are simply mocking us they need a picture, and they received this picture, and they are now condemning it, cutting it into pictures, there will now be appeals. well, there have already been appeals, but there have been appeals to various churches, to international organizations, and so on. and so on. and they also want to provoke activists who are there about the ukrainian bloodshed, this is their idea, a fix in order to show that we are protecting the holy places, and these non-humans have come to provoke

people now, especially those who -e passed the front a lot easily look at what happened literally yesterday or when in khmelnytskyi, this is a provocation of pure water. that is, we are human beings, let's comment on khmelnytskyi, we only pointed to this, only talked about the fighter, his name is artur ananiev, someone came and made remarks about him there with borsch techniques , this father i understand volnik because he is you i understand that he was engaged in freestyle wrestling, he got him interested there, then he broke , then he broke , so he became colin. there is nothing to breathe and viktoria well, how to react and tomorrow on this artur ananiev will come there with a combat unit to this whole temple and bring order, so to speak, by the method of revolutionary or military expediency, what should be the reaction of the authorities to what was happening in khmelnytskyi so that this a lynching did not happen, such a strange reaction took place, did you see that the police now

have some complaints against the serviceman, although it should be quite the opposite, he should write a statement that he came to make a mistake and was attacked, well, that is look, everything can really be done in the legal sphere, i say once again if we adopt a law that will clearly indicate that there is no such structure as the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, this is one step, another step , they did not recognize the correct name and they cannot sign any documents with the old name, this is the second step, and the third step , which of the state has to show now, these are unknown persons who, after the ninth year, after the ninth of march, seized the museum complex and that they are there, you understand imagine i wonder if someone just went into some museum complex and started saying that i will stay here until the year 45, well

, the police will come, and it's good if they keep you alive in that museum, but that's all, let's see, let's go legally, and let's go there this is the shaking up of the situation , this is an effort, i say once again, look, make a picture for a foreign tv viewer, it is more understandable what is happening there, you know this. it is the same situation as they actively use rallies, for example, in france, and they say that this the rallies are not just against something there, but they are against the help of france at gunpoint in ukraine. why? because they showed two or three flags of the russians. so you understand everything. now they show this whole mass of people and say that the people stand for the church. and then that half of the people there are against them and the other half are for them. no one explains. and if we ban the legislative church, then

there will be no stories in the european media about all the confrontations, or they will simply go away . ago that it is a church organization, and because it is a pseudo-certain organization that has nothing to do with religion. that's all. no , i will absolutely ban it by the legislative russian church. but i believe that even after this ban, all the clashes, they simply will not leave the lavra and others temples, you understand, it will still be necessary to solve the issue of their physical, so to speak, removal or removal from the temples, that’s what it’s about. well, yes, but it should be done by law enforcement agencies, not activists , you understand what the problem is, law enforcement agencies, if today we mentioned the former the head of the security service of ukraine himself did not recognize

the connection of the church with russia , let's close this kay, where, where, now the former deputy. he refuses to communicate with her. well, for sure, so why is it that now from the bacchanals to this situation, he is on everyone , then he appears on us all, then he had us in mind and is overzealous, now, now, another, the head of the security service, let's talk about something else let's remember ukraine. i'm just a thousand. why did you call it a provocation from whose side it was a provocation ? what happened in khmelnytskyi? look, it's provocative. it's a person who was provoked to use force. you understand , because we have to work with people. let 's all go now let's start doing it the way it was done in er . i apologize. er. it was done. er. where in ivano-frankivsk , well, listen, in ivano-frankivsk, on the contrary

, they expelled just half of the moscow cases. although god forbid that he should be there the main one is because the state does not work and not the crown organs. so, give everything to the subordinate leadership of the sbu, what is happening around. well, we are not pavlo petro. we will see him here. here is dmytrovych chelebid, the deputy of the lavra. yesterday, we included the director of the reserve, who worked there for 15 years. he said that on the territory 20,000 square meters of incomprehensible premises were being built in the reserve. something was being demolished. conversations. he says that he has to wait for three more and russian peace will come. not long left