[000:00:00;00] appeared, you understand, guests came to see these portraits, and guests, i mean not some, you know. but from his environment, from his bishop, this is a question for me, so to speak, of the level and conformity of the church as such to its the flock and therefore the flock itself, first of all, the priests, they should pay attention to this, and i think that this will be one of the reasons, so to speak, that many people may turn away from the church as such, only those who fanatically believe in a specific a person and not in the lord god, the savior of the world, and so on, you understand, that is, here i would say, i understand all the journalistic fervor surrounding these things . but if we are talking about the essence, then these things are rather, so to speak, an illustration and not the essence of the matter. and i am very afraid that we will not

they switched to otaki, so to speak, external things, without talking about the essence, the sbu should be engaged in serious, more serious matters than finding out, so to speak, what the letters on the house slippers mean, but you know , modesty was so emphasized, uh, lubomir huzar of the patriarchal chambers, check it it was called where he lived in recent years in kyiv my hair is a question what does a person live for if a person lives to serve others, then he obviously cares about how to fulfill this mission if a person considers his status as a particle, so to speak, of prestige and power this is do you understand the question? power is absolute and power is not limited, and it is felt in those phrases in all that, so to speak, a person is not used to being asked questions. this is, so to speak, a serious problem and i and i

think this will be the most important crisis of this church that people will not find the lord god in it with his commandments, they somehow ask the last thing, if you allow it, that is, you have several draft laws, at least two registered , as far as i remember, to somehow prohibit the moscow patriarchate from operating in the church, or at least force them to suspend their full jurisdiction at the time of moskovsky about the patriarchy that it was more accurate in the name itself , in your opinion, are these such legislative things they can help the situation now and which push to speed up to the point that this the church has finally decided on its identity at the level of its priests, if it is moscow orthodoxy after all, ok, then let it be called the russian orthodox church, for example. in ukraine, then we will think about whether it can operate during wartime, or during martial law, or it will simply be limited in some way and then we will see. or it chooses, for example, there is and economic orthodox church of ukraine is now recognized and

will go see there is a fundamental fundamental principle of freedom of conscience this principle has to be observed regardless of the circumstances, so to speak, in which it happens, it can be obviously limited only in the case of a greater threat to the health of people or the security of the state, and so on and so on. what is right, what is wrong, what to believe or not to believe, but the state must cover up the facts of criminal activity, anti-state activity , specific holidays of clergy and, so to speak, they violate these laws and if this there is, so to speak, a collegial responsibility, it is obvious to establish this responsibility, but i repeat once again, this cannot concern the rights of people to profess their faith in those structures that they consider to be theirs. the question

of the structures themselves is whether they meet the interests of our ukrainian society in the majority of their believers, and so on. it seems that this is the most important thing so that our society, which you know is very easily electrified and politicized, finally began to understand the essence, so to speak, of things , the essence of phenomena, the essence of institutions, and we are already we can see how trust in the church has changed in general, how it has fallen, so to speak, precisely because the largest percentage of believers in our country are those who previously in some way identified themselves with, so to speak, with this church, or shall we say more broadly , with in the orthodox environment, now they have other requests, other questions, so to speak, because as a greek-catholic i want to say that the soviet experience with the ban of the greek-catholic church is visible, it is not possible to compare the circumstances completely different , the greek-catholic church would never say so

was not a tool of some other state, but was primarily its own society , that is why the soviet government destroyed it, i would not like the ukrainian state to take this position, so to speak, banning some churches, but on the other hand, i repeat once again the state, state bodies have the right to protect our motherland from the use of religion for anti-state, anti-people purposes , but that is the very end. thanks to the state and the state and in spite of it absolutely super super absolutely this church simply survived despite its liquidation because it had something more important than so to speak the structure of the position e-e slippers with monograms and gold fish and so on the church did not have but no they were even able to return wrongly, it is impossible, it remains ukrainian orthodox of the moscow

patriarchate in ternopil oblast, many communities never returned. as for the catholic church, that is, these decades of this russification and the orthodox church they did their job. well, not quite. look at those areas that, so to speak, remain under the influence of the ukrainian orthodox church, or shall we say more broadly , the moscow patriarchate. these were areas that were artificially included in the ternopil region. it was the soviet authorities that were previously orthodox, they were not. the greek-catholics specially included them, so to speak, in order to create an enclave and around which to carry out this entire action of liquidation of the church in those territories where the greek-catholic church existed before yes that it was a special operation carried out, so to speak, with the first in 39-40, and later

in 45-46 , and the consequences, unfortunately, remain until now. the director of the institute of church history of the ukrainian catholic university was also with us, and you asked andrii lubomyr husar eh, eh, one journalist had such an opportunity dmytro simanskyi to be close to eh most blessed lubomyr cardinal huzar, and he widely gave to the photo of the actually deceased lubomyr, what is this photo, if you can take the titry for a second, because there you will see the watch of a man who was the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church, and dmytro writes that this watch was inexpensive, but the value was this is because blessed lubomir had problems with his eyesight and he could hardly see anything near the end of his life . that is why this clock announced to him, as

dmytro writes, uh, quite loudly and very unpleasantly for the ear, but it announced the time with a word it's so simple, we can be watched by different people who go to different churches to think about their information. that is, you are currently working as a catholic president. i understood this term. i am an orthodox of the moscow church. they always talked about it , so there will be catholic expansion . catholics want to seize it. the whole world and manage it. yes, i am in favor of everyone choosing what he wants, but just so that it is realized and not imposed. let's move on . dana yarova , a volunteer public figure and member of the horse, will appear on our airwaves. the anti-corruption council of the ministry of defense of ukraine was recently elected by voting and there are a record 30 or something thousand . if i'm not mistaken, good

morning, if i'm wrong, i missed you , yes, i just can't spend a week with you. 30 or something thousand votes for you yes, i am saying correctly 30 31 700 31 700 eh, so they voted for you so that you would be in the anti-corruption council of the ministry of defense of ukraine, why is it important eh and the fact that so many people voted for you and eh, about what you will be now i will explain in this council the essence of the council and why we broke the list on this anti-corruption and endocorruption .

of all-ukrainian voting on the nazk platform e-e it's really e nice to have lists e-e because the ministry of defense did not want to give us such access e-e well that's understandable e but you know we have any purchases now vulture uh secretly uh we broke spears, probably three or four weeks, i don't remember. it was a very serious fight , uh, i'll explain why it's necessary, uh, that they passed the bill 8783 regarding the publication of the prices of the ministry of defense. the ministry of defense must within 60 days publish the prices according to which they concluded some i have a contract, as a public activist i can analyze the prices with complete peace of mind. well, let's deal with those eggs. they are abnormal. i just don't

understand why. yes, let's go with those eggs. that way. yes, i see that in february eggs were bought for uah 17, and in march eggs were bought for uah 34, and as a business person, i sit down and analyze the cost for myself , what has changed in our country overnight, electricity has changed, wages have not changed, feed has been changed from this, chickens have all died in ukraine, no i haven't caught my breath, they are rushing what i can do as a public activist. yes, i can go out again on all the airwaves. they say that in the ministry of defense again, not very good things are happening . what can i do already within the framework of the anti-corruption body, having access to state secret, i can't, i can't, i have to go to the department of public procurement and take up all the applications with them, because now the ministry of defense is not working transparently, but because of cancer patients, take up all the applications

, look, maybe there was one application, maybe there were paintings, a conspiracy, maybe there was an affiliated structure to the ministry of defense, there may be 20 more options that i can, as a person with a legal and financial education, figure out what i do next, then i am part of the state active, do you remember how they published the story with the eggs in journalism wanted to open a criminal case but within the framework of state secrets, i can go with these documents to the law enforcement agencies and hand them over these documents and on which they will already qualify and carry out some uh some criminal proceedings should we somehow qualify these stories it was very important and eh well, you know the only thing that i have is this very, well, moderate optimism, and there is a very big caveat that worries me

, they consist in the fact that, first, we are waiting for the order of the minister of defense on the appointment of this council, then the magazine is legitimate well, it is already legitimate because all the operators have confirmed that there was no falsification, we are waiting for the minister of defense to order, and then how quickly he will submit the members of the anti-corruption body to the sbu for access to state secrets and how quickly the sbu will check , you understand, this process can be delayed well, i don't know until the end of the war, i'm very interested in how it will be, how it will change its own activities, uh , the ministry, this council, we hope that they will actually be able to be effective, actually, this access to the documentation is what it allows. well but there are interesting people like that, tetyana nikolayenko, for example, a journalist got there, for example, there are such people that we can rely on

them, trust them that they will really act in the interests of ukrainians and not in the interests of the ministry of defense. well, i want to emphasize once again that it is in i actively take interest in the interests of the ministry of defense, vyacheslav shapovalov and bohdan khmelnytsky, who are currently under investigation, are under investigation. i want to emphasize once again that we are ready. lead this corruption. do you want to fight? well, my answer to this question is clear. in the 14th year, i was already there in the 15th and 16th years. if you remember, as part of the volodyar air force , it is absolutely clear that it is a fight against corruption, because you know when i m -m er when i hear i am ashamed when guys call from zero and ask what is happening there in

kyiv, by the way, during the voting i was shocked because i received a very serious compression call and asked with whom the link where to vote, i will say for it you follow this they say we will vote because you know it's a very serious marker when the military asks you to go and do something because it's impossible because it's okay eggs okay apple trees okay uniform but when along the entire front line i just one more thing we lack artillery support what does this mean mainly in simple language, we don't have enough ammunition, you understand it, we will never win thank you, madam , we will monitor the work of the anti-corruption council and for what she manages to track the work

of the ministry of defense, this game volunteer is a public a member of the anti-corruption council of the ministry of defense of ukraine, we hope that eggs will not be priced at uah 17 or uah 34. and they will be at a fair market price. well, now let's talk about drugs . what will happen to them? won't they cancel the norm, what was it at all oleg musii, the president of the all-ukrainian medical society, joins us mr oleg good morning good morning to you too mr oleg , we will now buy prescription drugs and which of them are prescription or non-prescription you can buy it because there were a lot of all kinds of different versions, there was a lot of speculation about all this, people in queues, people who were simply fighting not for life and death on facebook, one against another, someone said that it was corruption, someone said that it should be like that, and

for example, it is in in europe, it is not possible to buy all the medicines there, so to speak, there are those that are now sold by prescription. therefore, add a little clarity, because nothing is clear , continuing your previous commenter . the most important thing is that there are no prescription eggs. er, how is the introduction to my speech, that's why it actually happened, well, in my opinion, such a systemic violation of the communication component on the part of the ministry of health is when amateurs manage the industry or manage something , they don't know how to communicate with people , in fact, according to prescriptions, all medicines will be which are issued by prescription, and in principle it should be so, because in the instructions for each medicine, for each medicine that is of such strict accounting or can cause harm

to health, it is written that it belongs to prescription drugs, this resolution about prescription drugs has been there for more than 10 years, her number is 360, but it was not in effect, so to speak, in fact, you already know, and our viewers probably know that there is another decree from the 22nd year of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine on the fact that during the war, the norm, er, about the mandatory release of clicks on prescriptions does not apply . therefore, it was necessary to simply explain to people that people should not make a fuss, there is no need to worry and be afraid, there is no need to stand in queues at pharmacies er, until the end of the war, it is definitely medicine the ones you bought before and could afford e.e. without prescriptions, they will also be sold now with prescriptions, now regarding whether it is necessary or not, it is necessary to sell medicines according to

prescriptions, but it must be integrated into the system of providing medical care, so the medicine was proposed by the cabinet of ministers to sell according to prescriptions, but the system was not built, and here there is a huge problem, because when ukraine is compared with europe, the drugs are sold there for some reason, not just because someone wanted it, but because of what kind of drugs does the state or stra fund return funds, this is a system called reimbursement or insurance medicine, etc., in order to know how much money to pay and have low prices for medicines, and this is precisely what causes low prices for medicines when , for example, in poland, medicines are bought two or three times cheaper do they bring us medicines from italy that are cheaper there? this is because there is a system of reimbursement for medicines, but for this system to work, a prescription is required because it is an accounting document for this medicine, so

there is no insurance medicine in ukraine, no reimbursement, and came up with someone's hot head. let's, people, now in a stressful period when everyone is already nervous about the war, uh, let's introduce some more prescription leave and nothing will be sold at all, besides, someone physically has to prescribe those drugs, this is the competence of the family, as a rule doctor, that’s how the load on a family doctor in the west and in that europe is somewhere around, well, a maximum of 1,200 people are registered with one family doctor. in general, even in some countries there are thousands and 1,800, so what was done in ukraine, they reduced the norm to 1,800, and now it is 2 to 2 500 ot imagine the burden on a family doctor twice as much as in europe , and now the family doctor, instead of providing medical care, will be engaged in

prescribing medicines over the phone or in some way not examining patients. well, this will cause another queues another queues for family doctors enrolling in which can be problematic. and medications are needed today, so in fact , i would advise the mountains of reformers who have been trying to reform medicine over the past five years to think of medicine as a system , to approach it comprehensively and not to throw in society eh such things that have happened before the first of april, on the other hand, i would advise you to follow up even to whom it is beneficial. because in reality, it should have been beneficial to someone, so that in pharmacies for 3 billion hryvnias, according to preliminary estimates, the people bought medicines that have a limited period of time. and then threw more than half of them into the trash, so it would be possible. if there was a desire for a large

e-e withdrawal, which manufacturers or intermediaries have supplied which medications in an unusual amount in the last, for example, 2/3 weeks, and then it will become clear who benefited from it and of course, introduce appropriate sanctions against such people well, but you know today's government is so dilettantish, uh, what can we expect from such steps? well, i don't expect it to be even worse than suprun. i think it's worse than suprun . well, that's already the answer, and that's much different worse than suprun suprun, of course, she was detached from ukraine with her american views, i wanted better, it turned out even worse, but now, well, now it's just a disaster . it seems to me that these are terrible consequences, and the fact that the paramedic manages health care is known to everyone who heads the committee on health protection of ukraine

, who is incompetent himself. the last two or three ministers whom he personally appointed are just as incompetent, and of course these people are connected to the pharmafia, he called the pharmafia pharmafia made money. well, until today, society has not received an answer even about whose masks disappeared in front of the code, you know, yes, it is unknown , so it is time to wait from amateurs and from people who are interested in the personal enrichment of any such good years for the health of ukrainians. i don't remember. you just mentioned ulyana super a i remembered another lady from health who was before her. and what did i remember because someone in the tape and visited the tape on facebook , one of my friends visited the mine of health protection the other day and saw there, among all the leaders , a portrait of raisa bogatyreva as well

there was a question as to how long that portrait should hang there or should it really be planted ? well, somehow it is strange considering the fact that what harm to health and health care raisa bogatyreva did, in fact, it was me and the bright representative of the party of regions all they know it too is it appropriate or inappropriate to hang portraits of ministers in the ministry of health, well, it's hard to say for sure, it would be necessary in order for people to understand how many ministers we had . that i replaced her in the position of minister of health, so from a moral and ethical point of view, well, it may be inappropriate, but in fact, from a professional point of view, she was such a minister, well, it has not been proven that she did not fall under criminal liability not all of them have been proven by the court

accusations, well, the law enforcement system should work, and people who have complaints should probably be in prison. but this has never happened to any minister of health, even with two deputies who, according to my memory , were at the time of bogatyreva, were accused of in some cases of corruption, even they were not brought to court , that's why you know more about this question now on the hype that we don't need such portraits or don't we need someone well, you know, in the verkhovna rada, for example, there are portraits of all the heads of the verkhovna rada, the ministry of finance all ministers of finance, starting with the ukrainian people's republic of ukraine, because who was there, who was this question, it's already a critical question, i think that such an idea would certainly have a place , you know, you mentioned the form of the ecological mafia, the so-called well, i was also struck by the number 3

billions, you say that there are certain estimates of how much hype this is before the introduction of e-e without this, the sale of prescription drugs is prohibited without a prescription, but you know, i know that if you analyze the average sleeping area of ​​any city in ukraine, it is as if the ecosystem consists of there there will be some kind of grocery store, a shawarma kiosk, there will probably be a liquor store and there will be a pharmacy, that is, there is even a hairdresser or something like that, it is already further away, it is even located somewhere, always i would continue more, not a pharmacy, but three pharmacies, we need pharmacies and this this this this this this but if you look at the assortment of these pharmacies, you often won't buy anything with a prescription, because that's just not there, but it's as if everything is there, but there are no medicines. well, there are a lot of medicines that are actually non-prescription, first of all, they are about 20%

of the entire assortment of medicines, the rest 80 prescription, besides, uh, prescription drugs . well, if they explained society and said that the drugs will be included and according to the prescription , they will be adapted, they will try to prescribe drugs, uh, also according to the prescription, but you can buy them anyway, then there would not be such an uproar everything becomes profitable, everything is profitable there, where there are many pharmacies, it means that it is profitable for someone, what to allow , just look. well, for example, from abroad , paracetamol or ibuprofen are often sold simply in stores along with products or somewhere at gas stations, so that is, in fact, this is what this is what removes the systematics and it is not even counted as any at all. and it is just painkillers, it is sold anywhere without a prescription, but on the other hand, it is from ukrainians . i know that a lot of pensioners, pensioners , for example, there will go to some kind of

homeopathic drug or something from their pension there on alcohol there are 258 useful herbs as well as supplements mumia well, something like this will give half of their pension because it is terribly helpful, only some kind of disease was immediately dripped on itself, it went through advertisements, especially after the advertisement of such medicines, and we can see if we analyze the composition of the advertising of medicines in ukraine is, well, almost 60% of advertising on tv, including all mass media, is meds and medicines, so it is profitable, and these advertising funds are definitely invested in medicines and on such medicines as are well, what do you say, are they almost homeopathic or not auxiliary or does it have 150 herbs, of course the main thing is that they did not actually harm because therapy in medicine plays a 60% role in treatment. plus that's why it's important

to convince people that this medicine especially if it's very expensive you know it's very expensive helpful and it really helps people too if a person believes in it , then healing occurs in 60% of cases, that too well, psychosomatic disorders and their treatment is such a concept in medicine , of course, i would not recommend that people waste their last funds on all kinds of garbage and biologically active applications or something else. it is already when there is nowhere to go, then either or you already believe in something there in us , the lack of information, the lack of communication from what i started with is a component of such distortions in health care and also absence by the way , there is a 30% shortage of family doctors, and by the way, only 80% of ukrainians have signed declarations with family doctors. and how will these

20% be treated? no one in the ministry asked this question to themselves at the beginning and in fact once again sets up the government and the state and the people as models, because the people are the embodiment and it can also be considered as sabotage against ukrainians and against today's russian-ukrainian e-e the war is directed because there are many ukrainian volunteers who help with the latter the funds of the ukrainian armed forces depend on this a lot, it really helps the ukrainian army, but they threw away three billion, they threw it away on travelers, they would have sent it to the army for something useful. we will have angelica seasonally and a fresh selection of news from her angelica i congratulate you, my colleagues , thank you, the enemy fired at sumy region, donetsk region and kherson region, and it is already like that, unfortunately, traditionally