[000:00:00;00] at some intermediate stages, let's say at the end of a certain cycle of education. well, we have the cycles there distributed approximately like this. after the second grade, somewhere we should better understand what the child is. what is the level of knowledge of the students. after the fourth, after the sixth, after the ninth, and already then after the 11th or in the future after the 12th, such a unified system of the national system of educational measurements or educational evaluations does not exist in our country, and as far as i know, the new minister, and he and the minister and the committee of education and science of innovation of the verkhovna rada of ukraine support the creation of such a system system, and this is, in my opinion, very important, a very important stage that will open up new opportunities, again in the accumulation of data , these will be facts, we will have real facts , and accordingly, based on these facts , we can adjust a lot of educational policies, e.e., now in the ukrainian

evaluation center of the quality of education, who is responsible, among other things, for the conduct of external examinations , a new head, the director of the ukrainian center for the evaluation of the quality of education, tetyana vakulenko, has been appointed, in my opinion - this is simply the best decision that i could have made the cabinet of ministers e.e. regarding the head of this center, there is no better candidate in ukraine, this is a specialist of the highest class, she is , among other things, also the national coordinator of the international pisa study in ukraine - it is also about the level of knowledge about the level of formation of certain competencies in students. therefore, we hope that on the one hand there is a political will to create such a system and on the other hand there is a team that can do it and we hope that at least uh, if not all the responsibility for the creation of such a system, the ukrainian center for the evaluation of the quality of education will take on itself, that is, at least they will be the driver, they will present their deep expertise in these issues, and they will share it, and such a system

will be created. which would be of strategic importance and which would help us together with the other tools we have , because in fact, as i said, we have already learned a little to evaluate processes in an educational institution. we already have some kind of electronic platform, the information and analytical system that we administer, but it is about processes. and if we have a system that will allow us to see what results these processes lead to and when we will be able to compare it, i think that then we will be able to see our education in a completely different light. in addition, we we should not forget that the result of education is not only a cognitive or academic component, that is, it is not only the ability to add two to two or multiply, well, that is, knowledge of mathematics, language , or other subjects, it is also about yes so-called soft skills are also about social

emotional skills, sir - this is a key story . i even had certain fears. we understand that there is a question of quantitative measurement of knowledge. such a child is better, i.e. a child with some social achievements , some understanding of things, yes, you have to catch difficult children, try to guide them, you have to somehow prevent children with certain negative internal social tendencies and there is a tendency towards bullying and so on and so on. that is, it is a complex, colossal story, and i am sometimes afraid when we get excited about the element of digitization or the quantitative measurement of certain parameters. we can miss this educational moment. i absolutely agree with you, but eh i want to say that we do not release this element , moreover

, we have now paid attention to it. border, that is, they know mathematics well, they know chemistry or physics well, but when it comes to soft skills, about social emotional skills, is it enterprise , entrepreneurial skill, is it empathy, is it the ability to work in a team, here we sometimes lose and even more so our teachers who work abroad and foreign colleagues note that even teachers have these skills sometimes at a much lower level than polish or german or other teachers, accordingly we need here also understand in which direction to move where should we go what should we pay attention to and how in any system we need to have a point of reference and ukraine has received a unique chance this year, we will

participate in a pilot project on measuring social -emotional skills, this project is being conducted by the organization of economic development and cooperation eh hmm and eh in 2023 14 countries are participating 14 countries except ukraine ukraine will be the fifteenth in this study to participate in such a pilot project ukraine has actually already jumped into that the train who went, it was possible to do it thanks to the national coordinator, now the national coordinator of this study in ukraine is the public organization ed camp, and the state service for the quality of education is a co-organizer, yes, we managed to jump on this train, and in the fall we will hold a national research on measuring the level of formation of social-emotional skills. thus, having some understanding of the processes, that is , having assessed how they are configured in

educational institutions, we understand that there are now different formats learning distance face-to-face mixed e-e we, in principle , e-e are working to adapt our toolkit that evaluates e-e processes to all these challenges, that is, having some understanding of the processes in the future , having an understanding of the results of training on the cognitive component of the component, and also having the results of the formation of socio-emotional or soft skills, we can then look more comprehensively at what our education gives to which, roughly speaking, what product does our education produce and make some decisions about adjusting educational policies but what is important in my opinion is the key point here. it is important that all these decisions are based on reliable facts and such information systems. well, this is just a tool. we are aware that they cannot replace the content. yes, but

uh, such information systems make it possible to accumulate this data, analyze it and, again , based on those facts, based on that analysis, take some effective decisions. he entered yes and the students they will be the first to use it, there are already some i don't know the antidote here is an interesting question because i don't have an answer to the question of whether it is a poison for which we need an antidote or maybe it is an antidote to something else e- eh we still don't know to the end why this is the case here. i think it should be taken as a fact, it is there, i wouldn't judge here right now whether it's good or bad. we know that students and civil servants and scientists somewhere are already using eh at the same time gpt for generating some texts you know here, let's say with nuclear energy or with any other inventions

that have changed humanity, there is no need to put a plus or minus sign. apparently, we just need to look at how we use it, and then we will again return to these soft socio-emotional skills, if such a powerful tool as nuclear energy or artificial intelligence falls into the hands of people who, uh, is it upbringing or am i, whose identity is formed on values, who practice virtues, well, again, such as honesty , such as uh, love for one's neighbor, then i i think that even such complex things will give er, probably give positive results, so again we have to work on values, we have to work on values ​​becoming the basis for education, and i think that even such complex tools will work for the benefit of humanity and very thank you, mr. ivan, i remain an optimist , i am more than sure that human intelligence is stronger than artificial intelligence, and our intelligence , i want to remind the viewers that

ivan yuriychuk, the deputy head of the civil service, was currently working for them on the espresso tv channel the quality of education in ukraine, in particular, on issues of digital development, digital transformations and digitization of clothing, a picturesque city on the shores of the black sea, since ancient times, the territory of modern odessa was a delicacy for the ottoman empire and the russian empire of nazi germany , and today for fascist russia her ukrainian heart odesa undefeated so the live broadcast continues on espresso tv channel

16 and 39 on our studio clocks in the studio of antinbarkovsky ulyana panasyuk yes we inform you about the most important deputies of the kamianets-podilskyi city council supported the ban on the ukrainian orthodox church affiliated with russia and voted for the termination of the right to use land plots in the city for her, the mayor of kamianets-podilskyi mykhailo posidko said on april 4, that is, today the deputies unanimously adopted three the first appeal regarding the ban of the moscow patriarchate on the territory of ukraine, the second regarding the withdrawal of the kamianets-podil diocese of the uoc mp from the russian orthodox church, and the third regarding the termination of lease contracts or the use of state-owned church buildings by the uoc mp, the city deputies also voted for 19 draft decisions on the termination of the use of land plots by the moscow church and one on the cancellation of the otak lease, here is the latest news from kamianets-podilskyi well, we are moving

on and now we will analyze an extremely important story that will unfold in china . we are in touch. glory to ukraine and yuri. good day. glory to the heroes. so, mr. yuri, we are talking to you about the fact that from tomorrow the president of france, menu macron, the head of the european commission , ursula fondelian, are going to china , they will all meet with the president of this country. so, what does this mean for international diplomacy? event, for international diplomacy, this means that, firstly , the european union is quite seriously united in relation to its relations with the people's republic of china, because there is currently such a strengthening china's foreign policy is becoming more and more aggressive chinese. it is more

ideological and in fact, in this visit , the protection of the president and the president of the european commission is controlled by the european union. it remains such a united force of a united organization that regarding cooperation and regarding countering challenges from the people 's republic of china, this first and secondly indicates that the european union, as well as myself as an organization and individual members of this organization, remain unanimous regarding its support for ukraine and including regarding support for ukraine in cooperation with the people's republic of china because we observed several actually a week ago we observed such a leader of the people's republic of china all the lands before the russian federation there were completely different scenarios including a possible negative scenario, the most negative as possible the transfer of lethal weapons from china to the russian federation and we are currently seeing such a let's say so united european front in order

to warn china against such steps and the fact that, accordingly, european leaders are going to the people's republic of china and will discuss this issue, this is very positive , respectively, for ukraine, and this once again demonstrates support accordingly, so we understand that ursula von der leyen, the head of the european commission, and why is french president manuel macron traveling with her, why, for example well, i don't know the chancellor of germany olafleiti of the constitution. so it's like different formally visits so uh and they are moving according to their internal programs ursula fund for inna as the head of the european commission their own program president macron seems to have his own, but we understand that this coincidence did not just coincide in time and space, we understand that the president will take care of everything and go to strengthen, so to speak , the positions of the european commission. neither

the representative of the european union nor the president of france, respectively, but in principle the main issues that have already been announced have been announced for discussion, this is, firstly, the russian-ukrainian war and from the side of the french president and on the part of ursula fund, the thesis will be clearly expressed that any help from china in terms of armaments of the russian federation will lead to the collapse of relations between the european union, respectively, between france and the people's republic of china, and this is actually very good. we also see accordingly and and members of the delegation from the french side, they include representatives of the energy sector , energy companies, representatives of aviation companies, and representatives of mechanical engineering, and we understand that the identification of relations between france may intensify economic relations with the people's republic of china and ukraine

. this is also a very positive signal because the scenario that was considered is that china becomes more ideological, more aggressive and will be ready , let's say, to break its relations with the european union with european countries from with the aim of more such support of the russian federation, he did not justify himself and thus this economic delegation, this delegation of industrial circles demonstrates that china in an extraordinary way he values ​​his relations with european countries and this means that it will be less likely that china will provide some serious and significant military and technical assistance to the russian federation, therefore for ukraine this is definitely a positive positive signal. der liang to force the chinese to calculate what is more profitable for them, so to speak , siberia, time or specific trade between

the european union and china in the hands , we understand that the chinese business is delicate, we understand how tense china is now relations not only with the united states but also with japan , we understand that we have extremely warm relations with japan, and we also understand that now china seems to support both the anti -japanese position, de facto recognizing that smoking is neutral territory, or rather the position on the issue of smoking or the so-called northern islands for japan for china now it suddenly became neutral earlier that even during the times of mao zedong, china did not recognize the annexation by the soviet union of these specific japanese territories eh well, there is no official confirmation from the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china so far this is the news of the japanese publication if i'm not mistaken uh it's i don't think it

will lead to any serious very serious changes because after all the people's republic of china if it even switches from recognizing these northern territories , i will remind you, these are four islands and we have shirshikatan them in our hands or has if it switches from the recognition of these four islands to the territory of japan to neutral territory let's say so to neutral status or to its neutral position regarding the status of these islands, this still does not mean that the people's republic of china, accordingly, recognizes these four islands of russian territory, so of course we have some small, small changes , but so far there is no official position you, i think that we should finally do it once. well, we understand that it will not be decided by japan anyway

. well, but this is the question of the kuril islands for us. how will the position of china change or vice versa not change, yes, and actually if we are talking about tomorrow's visit , mr. yuri, we agree that history is extremely important, but unfortunately we have to move on, we will inform you about the most important things, and with you i hope in the near future, in the coming days, we will continue this analysis with us there was yuriy poita, the head of the asia-pacific region section of the army conversion and disarmament research center, the visit of ursula von der leyen and president macron to beijing will be important , we will keep an eye on it, so we will return to the ukrainian case, because further on we will be in touch with yaroslav zheleznyak, a people's deputy of ukraine, we will talk with him about what to do with the seized russian assets and who manages them, the actual

management of the seized assets is currently being handled by arma hm, this is the agency that is going to assets and then distributes them, resells them at auctions or looks for new owners, he talks about how well it performs its function and actually we will talk and try to establish a connection with him , yes, we hope that yaroslav zheleznyak people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on finance, tax and customs policy, join us soon, we remind you that there is an ongoing fundraiser organized by the espresso tv channel, in particular, for a car and two drones for our defenders who are performing their tasks on the avdiiv direction, right now you see a qr-code on your screens, please follow it because donate money to the armed forces of ukraine - this is the least we

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deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on finance, tax and customs policy , well, let's get down to business, glory to ukraine , yaroslav, we congratulate you as a hero, glory to ukraine , what will happen to the army, what new trends are there, because there are opinions that, so to speak, they consume too much resources without justifying their existence, and on the contrary, there is a radically opposite opinion, so you should just make some adjustments and things will go back to normal, the positive thing is that now with the army, look, my personal opinion should be eliminated, unfortunately, it affects this opinion including today we just held a meeting of our temporary investigative commission on economic security and considered two specific cases - this is ammonia that was arrested this is russian ammonia that was not stored and the second - it's potassium, it's balkali, a belarusian stone, well, look at ammonia, eh, in theory, they sold

it at the market price, but as a result , no one paid vat, it's 20% of the price, and no one paid customs clearance - another 2% of the price with vat was settled, half of the debt there 178 million hryvnias, and then this bathing ammonia is bought immediately, resold, repays its tax obligations with a fake e-e scheme loan , in short, the state will not receive anything from taxes, e sold at a significantly reduced price, in fact , they sold through one site that you if you enter from a normal browser, the browser yes well that is, from the computer, they won't see it there, you need to go in specifically with google chrome, remove the security settings, and only in this case, if you know exactly where to look, you will be able to find these auctions

, to put it mildly, the situation there is bad before that, how do we we turned out to be involved, there was a meeting in the office of the president, mr. shurma, they were gathered by the deputy , as if they wanted to prevent a lung catastrophe and all that, but as a result , ammonia still remains a shorter problem. by e-e. now we have finished and will move on to the question of the price of ammonia. well, look, we attracted 1.3 billion from the state, respectively. well, somewhere you can safely say that 30% is a question . in the president's office, as i was dealing with it, the situation there is even worse, on the one hand, there are 740

wagons of shale, uh, only 2,200 tons of them were sold , the price is half as much as what is on the market, well, it is not less than what ukrainian mining was sold for . why so, because arma passed the grade on site site evaluated in this way as evaluated i have a feeling that there will be questions again from law enforcement agencies, they sold in large lots a lot for 74 wagons well, how do you understand that 74 wagons of potassium at the same time , in principle, few people in the country need it again traders will hardly find it it is necessary to have the opportunity well, in short, it is necessary to be able to configure e-e correctly browsers to know some kind of exchange of this electronic platform is everything to sell the question is the question hm, accordingly

, we have them so that they understand, she was arrested approximately there 21 000 wagons and directly tsk, my colleague vadym ivchenko, who represented the homeland well, he directly said where at which stations the wagons disappeared , well, do you remember the reference, i showed you a trick once on television when an entire train disappeared. here we have some craftsmen, the same fox repeated the same thing at individual stations individual wagons of those arrested, eh , can you explain to ordinary people, to ordinary mortals, what arma is guilty of? maybe you are not a mechanism, so to speak , not fully regulated, which would allow the sale of the assets seized accordingly in a more civilized way for example, yes, and that was my main question. and why is the sale not transparent, because arma prescribes together with the cabinet of ministers, it prescribed the requirements that you have as a platform to provide storage and movement, and that it is strange enough to evaluate it in order to

let it go there are transparent sales, which in principle well, it partly solves the problems, partly not completely. for this, the law needs to be changed or , again, er, liquidate the arma, but even in the current legislation, there are a lot of questions that, well, frankly say, er, i have causes unrestrained desire to contact the relevant law enforcement anti-corruption bodies, which with a very high probability we will do on behalf of the tsk in the near future, who else is on the agenda at the tsk, in particular, what concerns the army in general well, if the law enforcement officers are involved, so to speak, the process will begin we understand that the case of the seizure of russian assets is extremely important , and we would like everything to be done in accordance with the law and be transparent

, clear and decent. owned dispersed in our territory passed transparently into the hands of new owners, you are all pleasure, well, what do our foreign partners also do? and actually here it is necessary to understand that ukraine should be an advanced country that should show an example of how to do it. our main task now is to collect money in the budget, and well, everyone. who understand that due to the increase in taxes, well, this should not be done, and accordingly, how can we increase the finding, this is to close the schemes, first, secondly , well, how is the gambling business, which now paid twice as much in march than in 2021 year in full, and the second part is precisely to increase the efficiency of the receipt of such money, including from the sale of confiscated or seized property , as for the army specifically, then our next actions are to investigate the history of wagons , it looks like there is not a reformist history either

in other words, this is the story of asset management, when a specific plant is conditionally transferred, it is not handed over to competitive management for a long time, and during this time , all the equipment of the plant is cut out. this is actually going on during the course of the robbery of what could have been sold at a sufficiently insufferable price, and thirdly, why do we want to do and what will we do within the framework of the army, this is precisely the question of income to the state budget , how effectively it was all sold, well, accordingly, here too, well, how i showed the example of potassium or ammonia, well, this is a question that does not say what else you cause a certain tax to cause certain special attention on the part of the competent authorities, and if

we talk about the state property fund, will they pull well, a small site, i will say that this issue is being studied in our respective law enforcement bodies. the question is that we have already had four times, in my opinion, to this leadership of arma, claims from nabu have been made conditionally , so here you know. the question is if we did not succeed four times it didn't matter that even the fifth time it won't work and maybe the idea of ​​liquidation is really not that bad, but if we talk about the work of our chief, we are trying to fix such facts of inefficiency as we see them somehow. thank you mr. yaroslav yaroslav zheleznyak people's deputy the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on finance, tax and customs policy of ukraine told us an important insider, in particular, what concerns the military agency that deals with russian assets . well, tsk representatives have questions and important news

. for the delay in the delivery of weapons to ukraine, according to robert habek, he is ashamed of the delays in military aid to ukraine. he said this during a meeting with the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky the espresso information service is already preparing to present a news release. meanwhile, another hot news is that finland has officially become a member of nato. this is actually an important signal for ukraine, because we remember how quickly finland went through all those extremely complicated bureaucratic procedures and agreed on such with all members of the alliance regarding her entry so anna eva melnyk is ready to present a new news release and not eva on the air good afternoon colleagues about the most important thing in a few moments the news team will tell