[000:00:00;00] then he was elected to the tavrychan village council, and in the local elections in the 20th year he was elected a deputy of the kherson regional council from the psj , in parallel with the deputyship of repilevsky , he managed the agrarian enterprise agribusiness located in the kakhovsky district. who but an agrarian and also a deputy should have valued our land and protected it, but this mandate holder decided to betray his community when it started occupation of the kherson region, he was one of the first to go crazy in the direction of russia. back in may 2020, repilevsky gave an interview to the russians, where he talked about his intention to register his company on the territory of the occupied crimea and opened accounts in russian banks, all documents issued in

today's reality they say that eh, only we can even sell more products that are in our warehouses , the only way is to krym. no passport, no passport, no salary for her, this is how the kremlin snitch declared that earlier he forbade employees to read ukrainian telegram channels and forced them to call russian orks and liberators and ukrainian defenders nazis. well, then the liberator was completely freed from common sense by kukur pilevsky and together with the rashi gauleiter of novaya kakhovka, vladimir leontiev, he opened a football tournament dedicated to victory day in the villages of the russian military in the homes of residents of the kakhovsky and

boryslav districts, he helped the russians to hold a pseudo-referendum on the accession of kherson oblast to the rs, according to the information of journalists, eduard's son danylo rapilevskyi also worships the kremlin, the younger rapilevskyi, all of his father, is also a deputy of the kherson regional council what is true from a servant of the people and also a collaborator recently promised the voters that my priority is to improve the infrastructure of the region, stimulate tourism, create comfortable and attractive the living conditions of the citizens of the promises turned out to be wrong. let me aim with the father of danylo vasyl at the local residents from their homes and settled there russian fertilizer, or rather humus, intimidated people, took away their land, exported ukrainian grain to russia, a camera is being prepared for this family of traitors, they betrayed ukraine, their voters and our holy land , no one will ever forgive them for this, the following is a traitor to the ukrainian people

, vladyslav nikitenko, born in 1977, he is a deputy self-nominated in the bakhter otg of the skadovsky district of the kherson region, the head of ekobud consulting llc after the full-scale invasion and occupation of part of the nikitenko region, a certificate of a ukrainian deputy hid away, rolled up his glove, began to cooperate with the chmobikes, betrayed the current military and security forces, as well as former members of the ato in order to save his worthless identity, when the armed forces of ukraine began to liberate the region , fled to the left bank and began raiding with the help of blackmail and beatings , forces people in the occupied territories to transfer their property to him or the people close to him, those who left are threatening the rights of the remaining relatives if they do not transfer the property to the occupiers, for these exploits the orcs gave

him the nominal position of fake commandant of the so-called bekhter military-civilian administration vladyslav viktorovych, i have news for you, you will not be able to escape, or our military will detain you, or the partisans will liquidate, or moscow itself will remove it. where were the kremlin deputies, our land will flourish despite all the traitors and orcs who trample it, this was a program of collaborators. and i am olena kononenko . if you want to talk about the kremlin's sellers, write to us at this e-mail address or simply on facebook, together we will track down all the traitors on the trail of the russian ship. see you in a week on the air. espresso

de-occupation. it is possible to live without a home . of pro-russian non-humans terrible, very scary every day one by one two houses were burned and ukrainian people nazis are here yes, we are all nationalist people here, did the residents resist came here stopped and sent back and became heroes the novel was in certain cities of ukraine from the ukraine project in the documentary cycle deoccupation that saturday at 11:10 on espresso the us state department officially recognized the ukrainian mass media as partially free in its annual report the us state department condemned the disconnection of three ukrainian

tv channels from the t2 digital network a year ago , espresso was illegally turned off from the t2 digital network for no reason, no explanation, no one took responsibility for our disconnection , why we cannot speak, and most importantly, when we return to the digital air espresso continue to work for the victory of ukraine, we did not betray our viewers our journalists become laureates of state awards and shevchenko prize laureates bianka zalevska was awarded the order of princess olga espresso is quoted by the most influential world media we continue to document russia's crimes against ukraine and fight against good propaganda freedom of speech is one of the main requirements of ukraine's membership in the eu and cannot be restricted even during war, well, listen, is there freedom

of speech in a country with independent mass media deprived of broadcasting the authorities must correct their mistakes and not harm the european integration of ukraine, we demand the return of espresso to the digital air hello my name is yuriy fizar and today's guest is a world-renowned historian, a professor of yale university , a professor of history, a person who helps ukraine a lot and tells the truth about what is happening in us pro-russian war tells the world to let the world know timothy snyder congratulations thank you for the opportunity to talk with you and ask a few questions it's a pleasure to be with you mr. snyder the war has been going on for a year can we at least try to draw some intermediate conclusions about it? and i'm not talking about the situation in the landfill. i'm talking about the perception of the country in western europe in the west. well , maybe in russia. if we start from the west, then

the way people see ukraine has definitely changed . ukraine has now established itself in every society, as an important country, can ukraine survive has transformed into the question of whether ukraine can win. and this is a completely different matter for russia. i think we are dealing with a war that the russian leadership has chosen consciously and cannot give it up they will continue it until the end or will it be the end of the war in ukraine or is it the end of the regime but they will fight to the end or should putin start to fear now i would like us to talk about the latest decision of the international

criminal court in the dutch gas this the court passed a resolution on a warrant for putin's arrest, is putin afraid of this resolution, or is it possible that he is sitting somewhere in the kremlin behind the kremlin walls and just laughs at it? so, the most important thing about the warrant is that it reminds everyone of the importance according to the law, american, by bending into ukraine, russia has essentially violated all possible forms of international law, and in this way it threatens not only ukraine and its people, but also the very idea of ​​the existence of the international order, so regardless of whether putin will be arrested or not. where am i talking about what laws order matters is really important and this is one of the things that ukraine protects for all of us regarding putin. and he is probably not worried that he will be arrested

, he is definitely not impressed by the fact that he is being condemned in the west why why despite the fact that the russians tell us every day that they hate us, despise us, that they want to sneeze at us, the west still remains the only source of internal prestige there, they send their children to study there, the west serves as an example for them of how to dress , talk, make television, and that's why they never care about this russian history will not forget that you are blocked from entering germany and other 132 countries , but how it will be interpreted within the framework of russian domestic policy is even more important, there are many reasons to believe that putin's regime must come to an end for russians, this is another reason to make sure that their country will not be able to help a leader who cannot travel , whom many people consider a war

criminal, but sir, do you really think that he will be arrested, that he can be arrested for example in germany that he will decide to go there yes yes but he is not going to go to germany yes i know but if it is possible to arrest trump we all face a common problem for someone the laws are written if we are in order we must say firmly no one can be above the law laws are above everything for all of us so can they arrest trump i hope so can they arrest putin can they arrest putin and i hope so it depends on us if we say no it will never happen then it will it is often said that dictators always win, but this is not so charles taylor was tried in milosevic's classroom, they were tried in gas, dictators do not always win regardless of whether putin wins in this particular case, we must

say that he must stand trial that we should try to bring him to court and we will call on the germans to do it. by the way, a very important moment in the history of germany itself for its self-esteem is that they publicly declared that they are ready to arrest putin. this is actually quite a big transition and i really hope, like all ukrainians, that one day putin will be arrested, he will appear before himself and i really hope, like all ukrainians, that one day putin will be arrested and tried in order to explain what is happening in russia now, you even invented a special term schizofascism in relation to that i have two questions about this. first, can you tell me more about this? what is the difference between schizofascism and simple fascism and what is in question? so, schizofascism means that i am a fascist , but i say that it is you. fascism helps us understand what russia is, that is, two fascists are talking about fascism . so, fascists talk about fascism, which in russia, in russian, nazis

or fascist means my enemy, that is, not a russian, there is no meaningful content, so the word fascism or nazi is used a little in the west, we think ok, you are talking about concentration camps a one-party state and all the things, but in the official russian political language it simply means the enemy of whoever i don't like today is all those who are against us. that's what it means , so people who are actually fascists, such as oleksandr pukhina or prokhanov, they call those who are fascists without any problems liberals or democrats because for them it simply means that you are against russia, you and my enemy, which i have chosen for myself today, and this is important because in fact some fascists are constantly looking for and talking about their enemies , someone like that should think about it a little the fact that fascists call you fascists actually means that they themselves are fascists, when i read about this term schizofascism, i immediately thought of the term that is possible

one day there will be schizo putinism skitso putinism here i will now explain what i mean when i read russian newspapers on the internet, when i watch russian propaganda tv channels, it seems to me that these people consider putin the only leader who can save russia. they think of him as the son of god who came down to earth to save them. russian prosperity and russian light of some kind, don't you think that one day this term zapotinism may also appear . well, i don't think so, although you make a very interesting remark about the difference between ukraine and russia , and i would say about ukrainian political education . i have been coming for a long time to ukraine and let's look at the truth twice, this idea that someone

will save us was very common. in 2004 in 2005, it was a good idea. there will be democracy. and you will think that everything is fine. as you said, it will be a savior, the right person, a leader, in fact , you need to have, you don’t know, you had kravchuk , you had kuchma, you had yushchenko, yanukovych , you had poroshenko, you had zelensky, you had everyone these different people they reflect different moments of your history it's normal it's good everything is moving forward in a completely normal way isn't it this is something that russia doesn't have i mean putin is not just putin as a person the fact that he's been in power for 20 years ago is terrible for russians what do they think that it is not about the system, not about the rules and not about the elections, but only about the only putin, the savior. if you think like that, then you will not become a free person, you will be passive. and you will think of politics as a kind of permanent vertical of power and that

made russia the country it is, so western leaders often say that all wars end at the negotiating table , continuing what you said about schizo-fascism , do you think it is likely or possible for us ukrainians to sit down at the negotiating table with by schizo-fascists let me answer this question more broadly world war ii ended because the germans lost france's war ended because the french lost great china's war ended because they lost our war in afghanistan and iraq ended because we lost and wars end when people lose they can there may be negotiations, but there may not be we lost the war in vietnam and then we went to negotiations, that is, first someone has to lose someone has to lose and this is a basic

point that is often forgotten in the west maybe there will be negotiations, although i don't think so. but maybe they will be after the victory of ukraine. if russia wins, then they definitely won't happen. if you continue to fight , they won't happen either. the only way to negotiations is ukraine's victory. sit down at the winner's table with these people or not. this is your decision, even with schizo-fascists, history has already seen this, if you decide to negotiate, you do not choose with whom you will do it, but it will be your sovereign decision that you will later make regardless of historical models. and you these historical models, you know very well what future awaits the country that we now unfortunately call the russian federation . to answer this question, i will do what you cannot do from the ukrainians , namely, i will ask what the real interest

of russia is, not a terrible geopolitician, a terrible memory it's because people look at him as a leader with a certain charisma. i don't understand this because i don't feel it. people think that he made russia great or something, but this whole anti-western movement that they started around 2000, maybe even earlier, georgia is a cyberattack and not estonia, the invasion of ukraine in 2014, this whole movement against the west. from the point of view of russia's survival, sovereignty does not make sense, because if russia is going to exist and be strong , if it really believes in the multipolar world that is often talked about, then this means that they must be one from such poles should not have said well, we will cooperate with measures and sometimes with china, but they pushed the second measure away by invading ukraine, although there were so many people there who

wanted to cooperate with russia, this means that now they depend on china and the process has already started, the driver is that now before our eyes russia falls into a certain dependence on china, they talk about sovereignty, but in fact they are increasingly involved in dependence on the heavenly one, they depend on china every day no, not in ukraine, this dependence only increases that is, every day when they bring their soldiers from east asia to die in ukraine, they make china stronger, they are forced to sell everything to china at chinese prices, they make china stronger, the chinese just watch after all the villages are enjoying maybe where is russia moving or is it becoming dependent on china yes this is exactly the direction they have chosen yes i think the secondary question is who actually controls the resources in the russian far east because russia's wealth depends on moscow's wealth moscow's wealth depends on resources which

are located in the russian far east who will control these resources in the long term will moscow end or someone else is the collapse of russia possible so again i am doing what ukrainians are not expected to do but if i thought about the future of russia, i would try to stop the war already today, putin was replaced by someone else and i would try to find a way to talk with the west through the withdrawal of russian soldiers from ukraine . it would be all because when all the russian soldiers left ukraine. mistakes but we want to start all over again and the west should have said so because we withdrew all our soldiers from ukraine and then russia had a chance to become a sovereign country because it could maneuver between western chinese are you, i think that putin is actually burying russian sovereignty and the longer he fights in ukraine, the worse it is for russia itself, and you have already said that putin is

a bad geopolitician, but what was the biggest mistake he made when he first thought about starting a full-scale invasion of ukraine and then when he decided to do it, we are now in lviv in the world , one of the great austrian writers was robert musel, he wrote the book a man without properties, a wonderful character in this book , an italian diplomat says in diplomacy never do what you want to do and if you feel you want to do something don't do it just don't do it don't do it

bad literature was more caught up in his own ideas his big come i think the invasion of ukraine was what he wanted to do so he violated the basic rule of international politics don't do what you want to do i think he wanted to invade ukraine and this will be a disaster for this russia and will also destroy the figures of the deputies. if he had done something else, he would have been remembered in a completely different way, but this last year he will surely etch putin in history, but isn't his reputation already destroyed you know. everything could be worse. i can't tell the russian leaders what to do. in the end, i don't know. no one knows what people close to putin think about it. but every day that he is in power

, the situation is getting worse. i don't think that we can we change it someone else should do it possible one day someone will be able let's talk about the ukraine of the future the future after the war after our joint victory with allies and partners what kind of country do you think ukraine could become i okay this is a great question let's look at the positive points in ukraine during the war there, first of all, this is civil society and horizontal cooperation, this is what you should continue because it is a way for citizens to believe in themselves that they can do something for free ukraine, it is very important that they do not believe that they can implement changes, that they are not helpless, that they are not paranoid of war , believe in conspiracy theories, they can act themselves and this is very good, another very important point is successful elections even during the war and this regardless of the personalities of poroshenko and zelensky, it is very important that poroshenko lost and zelensky won, you had

a change of power during the war and all this is very good in terms of what we should worry about in the future this is how to rebuild ukraine and the danger for you is that we give too much money to one person we should not do this we america the west and so on should find all these hundreds and non-governmental organizations to help them we should cooperate with all regions with all cities and towns helping them from the right not in ukraine, but in the fact that, as history shows, it should be done in a decentralized manner. we do not want ukraine to find itself in a situation where the central government suddenly masters ukraine as an individual. if we manage to do this, i can already see and manifest a ukraine that will be better than ukraine in 2021 is older with public transport, better city squares, better kharkov, although i really like kharkiv, uh, with modern cities, roads, from this

, this can be achieved if the reconstruction is carried out correctly. europe needs ukraine, and europe needs ukraine. empire, this is an opportunity to become ukraine, but also to be with all other countries, and europe needs you . because they need a project, they need a story about themselves, a new, fresh story, their story about themselves is connected with 1945, but they need a more recent history, they need a success that they can call their success, and this success should be post-war ukraine to become ukraine, that's great, mr. sniper. my last question for you today is what will be the historical responsibility of russia, not putin, but russia, for everything it did during war

is a great question because i believe that responsibility is a key term in international politics and this is related to what you said about the law, that is, maybe we want putin to be arrested, but for us it is important to say that you are responsible, we believe that you are responsible for everything we believe in responsibility, but one of the problems of russia is the whole culture of impunity, they do something bad and then something even worse, and so they stop believing in all the rules and we will not be punished of course in every country , people try to break the rules, but that's a different matter. if we say that there are no rules , then nothing matters, and this is exactly the situation russia is in. therefore, first of all, it is very important that russian assets are used for the restoration of ukraine, it is necessary to find a way for this. and secondly, from the point of view of historical responsibility, i am not saying now , as a historian, people should think about how

russian history was written, how we all thought about russification, it is obvious that one of the reasons for this war was that many of for too long we believed in a certain story about what russia really was then russia invaded ukraine before we understood that the story about russia and which we believe does not allow us to understand some other historical realities ukraine is one of these historical realities it is the bones of rest on you historical responsibility is also our own responsibility for the reconstruction of european history or history from the west in such a way that ukraine does not become more interesting than european or western history. this will make it much more interesting and make much more sense. i do not want to talk only about russians. things that we should also do but then people should be tried there should be long boring trials in which people are found guilty and then we can

talk about relations with the russians we all have a common problem we are looking at we tell history that we have always been innocent, that we have never done anything wrong, ukrainians can say that, americans can also say that, russia shows us what happens when you take putin's friends to you to extremes in this regard is that russians are always innocent, always it was always someone else 's fault there were always germans austrians jews brussels berlin washington there was always someone else come here we never did anything wrong and even the trope never existed we never did anything wrong decent russia, i will now talk about things that do not depend on us. but in order for the renewal of russia to take place, they will have to admit that there is a concept of historical

responsibility. i say this because the word responsibility is very important. but we cannot force someone to be responsible. that there is a law and you you no, we have a lot of money, we can do it with russia, but in the end the responsibility is also something internal, something that needs to be felt we can't do it instead of russia but we can for myself, thank you very much, mr. snyder. thank you for agreeing to talk, for answering my questions and sharing your thoughts about the past, the future and about our victory . thank you very much. well, it was timothy snyder , a professor of history at the lille university . they obviously talked about ukraine and russia with him. about the past about the future and obviously

about victory see you now officially the flag in finland has been raised over the headquarters of nato and how many kilometers of our country are contaminated with explosive objects good evening to everyone from espresso the news team will tell you about the most important things, and let's start with operational information from the general staff, our defenders repelled more than 45 enemy attacks, about 20 of them fell on bakhmut, the invaders continue to storm the city, however, our soldiers are holding the defense in the epicenter of hostilities