[000:00:00;00] my mother was still in kyiv, but i still don’t really want to join the brave, protect our own. we are ukrainians and we know very well what we are fighting for. we don’t just dream of victory, but we bring them closer every day. we expel the invaders from our native land . we fight the internal enemy. let's make sure that the occupiers pay in full for every crime

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or an instructor, fear will not make you a war naive western politicians is that if putin hands over a red box to the crowd, something will change significantly, mr. dmitry. i welcome you to the first channel of public broadcasting and i sincerely thank you for using part of your several-day vacation to come to us for an interview. thank you for inviting me. good day. i am for i will tell our viewers that you were not only the editor-in-chief of the ukrainian weekly for many years, but also that before the start of the full-scale invasion, you were the editor-in-chief of the countdown program, which

was broadcast on the first channel of the public broadcasting as a journalist who became a military man, but now he is using his several-day vacation here in kyiv, well, fortunately, his wife came. she is now in poland in her last year, she is also on vacation, well, i am spending a comfortable vacation , visiting theaters, cinemas, bookstores, etc. well, i just pass the time with my wife, with friends, nothing so extraordinary, the vacation is short, you have to enjoy the little joys of life , 10 days, yes, 10 children, and when i was in kyiv the last time before that, somewhere in november, december , i had the opportunity, we had a rotation, i not a few days ago, he arrived in kyiv just in the period when the lights were turned on. there were troubling times in the life of kyiv. fortunately , you see these times. we also survived. how do you feel in kyiv ? saigon, and it seems to me that he is frankly annoyed by a certain rhythm that exists in kyiv, how

people behave in kyiv, well, he actually said such a phrase, i will quote it because i am interested in your opinion on this, that ukrainians were like a nation once when the threat was directly looming above kyiv, or do you have kyiv? i am annoyed with serhii suyugon, after all, he had a different experience. he fought in what i call the first war. during the ato, and probably for him, this contrast is more striking . nothing annoys me anymore in kyiv. and you know, we are talking about a vacation, when we were all civilians. we tried to go on vacation to some place. comfort, a cozy place abroad, preferably and have a good time. meanwhile, i am the same . now i accept kyiv. hear an explosion and less seeing people in military uniform is less, you see upset people in queues for a humanitarian aid, as it happens in the front-line zone , and therefore almost nothing annoys me here except

for the information noise and pseudo-experts who try to think something about the war , i try to avoid it, but it does not always work out you turned on the tv, turned on the tv, started to read the internet more , eh, it's still an irritant, but in general, the fact that people are well dressed, go there, relax , in fact, i'm going to wear something civilian now, i 'll also look like some such empty a staggered kyivan but we don't always know who these people who walk the streets of kyiv are, maybe they are volunteers, maybe they are military vacationers, that's why i 'm not so radical in my judgments that uh, well, i don't always know who is indignant about these people as zhivaks to what question what did you want to see here and you don't like what people here are resting there somehow spending their leisure time working in the cinema well, it's good that it should have been instead how did it happen that journalist editor publicist dmytro

krapyvenko became a military man i i watched a few of your interviews and you said there that two days before the start of a full-scale invasion, you joined what was once called the military commissariat, how did it happen ? you were preparing for the possibility that you might have to fight. well, i started preparing for this in the 14th year of e- it didn't work out then because of many circumstances, the first of which is probably that i didn't have a military department behind me, i didn't have the experience of military service, so i was engaged in volunteering from the 14th to the 22nd year, that is, i was directly connected with the war. drove through donetsk and luhansk regions, it helps me now, i am well oriented in the area. that is the decision that well, we all lived in this information field, that a full-scale invasion could begin, i had to think about it, and i, er, leisurely until the end of february, i wanted to sign up for

the territorial defense with the aim of just tightening up those, as it is fashionable to say, skills, and in human language they say skills, e.e., tactical handling of weapons, which i lacked . well, it just so happened that i acquired these skills directly at the beginning of my service because it was necessary to form units, they even formed them, but there was no time for training, because it was there on february 22-23, the 24th , it had already begun on a large scale, after all, you are not in territorial defense, such an interesting moment that you are in an anti-tank platoon, like when a journalist found herself in an anti-tank platoon for example, in civilian life, i thought in such categories as a career there. the image of snakes in which i work, uh, in the army, i completely surrendered to the flow of the military bureaucracy, well, after promising myself that i would not advertise my affiliation to the mass media, what would i do there? i

i don’t like this question at all. it would be better if i was somewhere in the press service or somewhere in the headquarters and so on. i just as a citizen first of all went to let’s simplify it to call it the military committee because their modern name sounds for a very long time. i have been in kyiv since the end of february on may 8, and then an order came to our military commissariat that a certain number of people should be sent to the 30th brigade. i already started to make a little noise here in kyiv. we don't do anything and we had such a large group of volunteers. we went to the 30th brigade, and then it was just a lottery , well, let me reveal one detail that i was supposed to be an opponent from the beginning, i was terribly afraid of this because i understand that it is necessary to prepare for a long time, and here i showed a little initiative and that's how i ended up in an anti-tank platoon, well, it's a great job, i'm glad it turned out that way and now, what is your area of ​​responsibility in the command of this platoon ? that is, this is the deputy commander, the deputy

commander of the platoon, the second person in the unit , eh, solve a lot of related issues and ensuring the unit's viability and its capacity, and since well, it's difficult to explain, perhaps. who doesn't know the structure of the units there, and for a psychologist, an isolationist, and for a clerk, well, in short, a lot of different specialties have to be performed. but i think that, well, in our i always say to the division if someone is ready to do this work, it’s better. you can replace me, but there’s no queue , you ended up in august in the izyum direction.

we were under fire for the first rotation, then we walked around the expanses of ukraine, er, training grounds, and returned in february again , directly in the combat zone , it turned out to be more difficult for you, and maybe easier for me, did you imagine in the process of training people the behavior of people in extreme situations this actually seems to me to be something that cannot be fully prepared for, because i am sure that most of my brothers will agree with me that those people who let loose their tails at the training ground and say what kind of fighters they are, how will they be it's cool to fight in combat conditions, they don't show themselves from the best side, but ordinary, quiet, modest guys are just the most reliable people, that is, i will absolutely repeat the banal phrase that in war a person shows his essence, who he is there. you can't hide behind masks and behind some made-up image. everything very quickly all this will be caused by a person very soon it will shed somewhere, that is, it is the human factor that turned out to be impossible for you , the most unexpected factor in crisis conditions

, for sure, yes, that is, they can kill there, i understood that it would be dangerous there dirty, uncomfortable, well, maybe i didn’t fully reveal myself, but somehow i had an idea. that’s what it is. thank god i didn’t get into the war there at the age of 18, when i read a lot of books and imagined the war as such a parade , just in a different form and with combat weapons, well, that's how it seemed in my youth, now i understand that it's terribly dangerous and you have to put your head first, and by the way, who are these people with whom you serve, are you , for example, a journalist, are there others in your platoon or in the near future, i joke that we have a worker-peasant army. well, actually it is because, well, it is again. sorry for talking banalities about the height of society, most of our people work in the fields at the factory behind the wheel of a car, and do they go to poland to earn money there, too, mainly these people of labor specialties from kyiv, from

zhytomyr oblast, well, those who are near me there from other regions of ukraine, but somehow it turned out that way for me. i have always never lived as they say in ivory towers, and i understood. well, there are topics on which there are fellows. i am interested to say that i am not the best interlocutor when tractors or the yield of certain crops are discussed there cultures, but there are also many common topics on which you can talk with people, that is, there were no surprises for me here either. i can't imagine a group consisting of office workers . to be honest , they are afraid of his fighting capacity because everyone has to do their job. more patiently, someone can competently write a report or show some non-standard thinking in a combat situation, and what are these common themes, if it is not a secret, well, it is still interesting what

can unite such different people who women find themselves at the mercy of politics, well, art. but again, on the same level, have you seen this film? well, if you haven't seen it, then there's nothing to talk about, well, first of all , the war, after all. well, as for the war and politicians, as a journalist, you can probably offer a lot of interesting things about the role of a mountain who knows the name of the secretary of the national security council, who was the prime minister when , because the majority of politicians are contradictory and so they slide on the surface. well, of course , information security when we always have i read somewhere on the internet i have a question it's terrible people but where did i read the same thing and people are cautiously asking me well it's probably a fake i say yes it's a fake either or not come on i'm teaching people to work with information they're actually interested it's like that well media literacy at the level of one unit it works it works, and the work of a journalist does not arouse a keen interest in people, because you know it is something like some kind of sacred knowledge, but when it comes to information, people listen to it

a little about bakhmut - it is, after all, the main point on the map of ukraine's military operations now, or bakhmut as some viewers sometimes correct me in the comments well, here the disputes are still going on how would you describe the situation there now considering the fact that the fights have been going on there for so long, their situation is that you correctly said it is such a piece of land that they are fighting for the great forces of the russians are our great forces and we are trying to show skill in this war because we can never allow ourselves to solve any issues there with numbers and that is why our commanders and fighters imagine simply miracles of tactics and strategies in order to get this one the area is difficult. i don't know, i don't say that i am such a commando who has gone through many battles there, well, it is a very difficult direction in

all senses, and in fact it is some kind of miracle and proof of the existence of god that we have been holding since the month of may this city, have you come across comments that say that it is possible, uh, it is worth retreating because our losses there are very big, if you would respond to such people who say this when reading the news, look, in order to think about it, you need to have competence. resources that allow us to hold the city or what we will lose if we surrender it, i always say that for this we need to graduate from the academy of the general staff and these prosaic oh let's surrender there our guys are dying our guys are dying all over the front line and what will the surrender of the city turn out to be like

i'm really not ready to speak, that is, i would like everyone in our country knows how to rename streets , all of our linguists have recently become military experts . i advised these people not to create informational noise and be less driven by emotions, warn yourself in a month with something constructive. i'm sorry about her advice. well, maybe it will help someone in the bahmut, but this week there was such news that the commander of the ground forces, general syrsky, said that the russian forces are under bahmut, i have already quoted are exhaling do you, as a fighter of the unit located there , feel at all that there is already a decline in russian capabilities yes partially yes partially exhaling in some areas indeed, the intensity of their assaults is less there. as far as i can judge as a person who has been there for five days, a little bit out of context, but well, i'm always interested to look into their rear, how many combat units they still have there that they can pull up, so,

well, i agree commander what about the events of the last few days lead to the idea that they are exhausting actually wrote about the threats from russia that back then it was not as obvious as it is now, so i would like to talk about the moments at the very end are connected eh well so globally strategically eh with russia in your imagination because i am sure you have thought about it when russia will stop establishing a threat for us when the current borders will cease to exist how realistic is this scenario muralistic no one believed in the lord of the soviet union when it happened, world leaders came and convinced ukraine not to leave the ussr and so on. the russian federation is an unnatural formation, all unnatural formations and all

empires will one day decline and cease our existence, however, we now see how they are afraid of this thought about the possible partial or complete disintegration of russia, our western partners, they were also afraid of the disintegration of the soviet union, they, let's say , perceived the independence of the baltic countries in this way, and everything that happened next seemed to them that it would be some kind of chaos there and well, you can't say that the disintegration of the soviet union modestly took place completely, there were certain hot spots , that's why we have this term since then, but in general everything went its natural way, i think the same will happen with russia well, otherwise it is in its current status in the current borders with the current resources with nuclear weapons and it will pose a threat in this civilized world and the naivety of western politicians is that if putin hands over to a mass exodus with a red button something will change significantly there was a phrase about a separate sandwich this is also a person who did not become the president of this country for us, it will also end only

when russia stops posing a threat, well , the war will end for us after all when we go to the borders of 1991, but russia will cease to pose a threat to us only when the state called the russian federation is centralized in the form in which they are. terminate its existence now ukraine can offer the world or find some arguments in order to promote , after all, the understanding of how much modern russia poses a threat not only to ukraine but maybe in this region, in the borders of which it exists, of course, i think that this is a question on our political, diplomatic and informational agenda number one , just as you remember that ukrainian independence - it was there, let's say, in the 80s. it was a question of a small layer of dissidents and the ukrainian diaspora who believed in ukrainian statehood. maybe i think that the majority of the political establishment believed that

these were some marginal issues and it was not timely and so on, but the time has come and people believed in it in the same way from russia, right away we understand that, of course, as a concept in itself , russia should cease to exist. to fall apart there sounds somehow too aggressive. that there in western politics may be unpleasant, but it is necessary to raise the question of enslaved peoples, you are already at the level of the european union, the representatives of bashkirs, chechens and other nationalities , even of individual russian regions, came there and discussed the future of their regions without a protectorate and moscow, that is , a step has already been taken, it is not just that people gathered in the zone and talked and this the discussion is already being held in brussels at the pan-european level , so the drop sharpens the stone well, it seems that for the western world, these conversations about the collapse

of russia look so utopian how utopian this seems to be the event of some kind of disaster and it is directly related to the main argument, you know, that russia has nuclear weapons, what will happen if russia disintegrates. do you know that here you can answer those who use such an argument, you are the soviet union, you were also afraid that in it there are nuclear weapons. we all know the history of ukraine, how it came out, gave up nuclear weapons , of course, those formed that will arise on the territory of the modern russian federation should not have nuclear weapons, that is, demilitarization now already the word of vladimir putin from the russian inventory of those terrains should take place, of course there should not be nuclear weapons there because the evil empire should cease to exist we will put an end to this and we will monitor the situation thank you for the invitation to educational school number 9, this school is very loved and i love it

until now and i will fight for her until the end i kept the key to the office at first i gave it away and then i think no because this is like my home this is my english language office but the door has already grown, come in i always i dreamed of being a teacher, well, the goal is to give something useful to children, not even from english , to raise a person with a capital letter, and i think that’s all. i haven’t seen a green youth class for a long time . i really miss it. in fact, the lessons of the green valerian school were so free. we could draw and cut something there. well, that was all. very

interesting and instructive. i tried to combine what we learned about the language and patriotic education. i invited a man who was in the military at the time and the boys liked it very much when the man came to our events in recent years 23 in february, we said that the war would start soon, and i told them that it seems to me, i said that i don't believe that it will happen. we woke up to the explosions. i grabbed the phone and started reading the internet.

said i'm going then and i said i was with you, they told me not to take women . i talked from the beginning with the medical staff, he said, well, talk to the combatant and he will already make a decision, and i talked to the combatant and he said okay, take it, they were more surprised the parents of the children, how are you, everything and the teachers knew that i had already been, and even me well, this teacher she says i didn't even doubt that today we can't, well, when the girl is not like that, not only at school, but the english language was shared by both classes and close how does she speak english? olya bought a baby, bought a baby, you know how hard it is to work. a teacher is not just teaching children, it's relationships , it's especially important. in our profession, i

think that my measures and what i told the children at school did not go well. just so very beautiful we have a relationship. i am very glad to see you now. i am in cherkasy . by the way , i already miss you very much at the volunteer headquarters. you are a very beautiful teacher, but not only a teacher, as a friend, it is all a mass kim as a medicine. good luck, children, peas, stew, oil, we also need this, and we need this too, and i have a brünik like this, and our flags stand as a monument of donetsk region, now i will show you something so secret that i have not

shown anyone, well, this is my favorite photo . i think even he was celebrating his death , he really died a hero he probably is his mission was like this in life, we had such a picture, we were given a gift honestly, i howled but already when i got here for the first time in the apartment, it was months 3-4 years after the death, here i was already developed when no one sees, but i still can't stop writing to him and when i received orders for him, i sent him a photo, i sent my dad mine, i sent him this is an encrypted victory

, this viburnum news represents ukraine, but it also represents the connection with the dead, and my parents' relatives persuaded me very much that the son is not coming back. i said no unequivocally and to the end i will be here until victories i have to protect the children, my city, my ukraine, it is a part of my work, we are my soul, because children are like that, they are and will take care

of our country after the victory . on march 13, 2014 , the national guard of ukraine was renewed in combat conditions . national guard units were among the first to be delivered to protecting ukraine from the russian army in the east, many volunteered after the maidan today, national guard soldiers cooperate with law enforcement agencies , border guards, with the armed forces of ukraine , fight as infantry, engage in development, go to counteroffensive if it's simpler, cottage cheese on all fronts for work at the limit of human capabilities and even thanks to it from

the entire people of ukraine , the cities were the first to meet the great war , fierce battles were fought, but despite the horrors of the occupation, they did not surrender. the enemy fully felt what ukrainian anger is and strength trostyanets okhtyrka irpin cities that have become synonymous with resistance and stability of snovsk bucha chernihiv buryn a manifestation of resistance and struggle semenivka horodnia koryukivka proof of heroism