[000:00:00;00] we imagine love in such a way that we want to feed someone, and when we say, god, how thin you are, it means that we need to feed this person immediately, so that she looks like that , and fat means healthy, in other words, i remind you again, dear friends, direct your efforts. maybe in another way, instead of sculpting dumplings , again, i saw photos from a military man who showed what happens to dumplings when they are stored without a refrigerator after a week. this is what these dumplings look like. not only money is invested in them, there is flour, eggs, potatoes, but also human labor all the time, it is possible to convert it in another way to this military man who wrote a post about please don't overwhelm us with products, although we understand that you want to support us , people pounced, saying how

well, you don’t appreciate our work, you’re ungrateful. but he simply explains that the dumplings or compote are kept in such field conditions . another photo, this is what this compote looks like after a week. in fact, it's penicillin, so please, friends, if you have any desire to help the military, you can convert it in another way, for example, to collect for some drones or cars, how do we do it on espresso? now we are collecting. therefore, direct your efforts there or maybe we need drones. now we will actually talk about drones with valery yakovenko, co-founder of john.ua, an expert in unmanned technologies and

robotics. valery good morning yes we see you, but we don't hear any sound . well, let's say hello again. oh , yes, i heard . we hear very well . b we didn't have drones, how many drones we couldn't collect with the help of volunteers or with the help of direct purchases and transfer them to the front unfortunately , there will always be few in the ukrainian army, a large number of drones is one of the drivers of the fact that allows the ukrainian army to win, these are innovative tools - these are the technologies with which we fight in order to liberate our own land, and there will always be few of them, so even if now every day i have new drones , calls for donations for drones like the ones

you are currently making on the air, i believe what should be done? and the ukrainians should be given drones on drones in the morning, lunch and in the evening so that our defenders receive more of them. butusov's article was interesting, where he actually writes that we don't have uh-uh sensors, there should still be a war of sensors, that is, in the sense of sensors in the sense yes, if we allow it, it is possible to remotely observe various areas, even all areas of the front for thousands of kilometers, because he says that if we do not have such an opportunity, it means that we then simply have a soldier with a machine gun who is waiting for a russian tank to attack him, for example. this is an alternative or our sensor will be destroyed or plus we will react late and find out late or our soldiers will die actually drones are eyes in the sky and long arms eyes in the sky this is the main functionality this is

an opportunity to really find the enemy before that when it starts to be visible from the ground level, it is an opportunity to adjust the artillery, it is an opportunity to be effective and more effective from the point of view of using even one's own limited human resource, it is important to keep it safe, every drone that performs its mission, all the preservation, the saved life of some military and er, one of the elements, why do we need such a number of drones now, because a drone is actually a consumable, when a drone is lost, we clearly understand that it is not human life that is lost , but the life of the ukrainian military, and when we we are talking about the length of the front, which is simply huge, well, very large, which is impossible to grasp qualitatively and in detail with classical tools, then drones become the only possible tool that allows you to do this, and

during certain activations along the front line, without drones, they do not rise in the air like a swarm of insects 70- 100 drones are in one place and move so that at all possible points of contact with the information, transmit it upwards and quickly make decisions in seconds, well, except for the drones, which are the same ones, which and so on, which are even very effective they turn out to just drop grenades in that trench well, we all see a lot of this video in our time, they even ban us for showing it even under the channel all the time, i still don't understand the russians, how is it babak , i don't know what's wrong with it no you can see no arms or legs as they fly away. nothing like that. something just flies and then something happens there . that is, this video

is ukrainian. and a little black humor for the morning is definitely needed p valery well, but look but do we have something like that, and there are also serious shock drones there are serious shock, some kind of safe ammunition, is there already such a drone, some kind of unmanned aerial vehicle that would fly to moscow and something there it was so good that it burned down not only the ministry of defense as it turned out russian after the kettle somehow jammed the electricity there but hmm so that the kremlin would burn in fact if we can talk about technology, then this process is not limited to the distance to moscow, it is much greater - it thousands of kilometers what ukrainian drones can potentially overcome in one direction and in another, so technologically it is possible and ukrainians can collect such equipment, they can create it, but regarding the amount of such equipment

, it is within the reach of the ministry of defense of ukraine from our armed forces that we need to wait for official sources of information because this is specific and such important information, but regarding moscow, i would like to ask to add one comment. i do not consider it appropriate to attack certain targets that are not military. ukraine is a country called us we are fighting against the terrorist enemy and all the goals of ukraine, they are military, that is, our task, you understand our own land, we don’t need someone else’s land, we need to destroy the enemy, who stepped on ukrainian soil and drones , including, should we use e-e exclusively for this if ukrainian the ministry of defense will consider somehow otherwise they express their opinion and we will faithfully believe them and do as they tell us, but once again

, the goals of ukrainian thrones are always exclusively military, not as we see, sometimes shahedi is launched against a moderate population of ukraine or on civilian peaceful objects , no ukraine will not fight like that, it does not want and this is not about us at all we have to liberate our land with technologies and this is already being done speaking of technologies and the best is the best , the most technological samples of weapons that exist in the world such as, for example, the same there are fifth-generation planes, the f-22 is stupid. and uh, the f-35 is ours, which corporation now i can't even remember any boeing or something like that, i'm leading to the fact that these are private companies e rifle m16 m4 and varieties were developed by private companies

that is, literally all the weapons that we now receive from western western countries are the development of some private companies in this sense, when we talk about the intellectual production capabilities of ukraine, perhaps even in order to create, well, modern super weapons that can be a certain game challenger of this war as a whole that is, it will not be what the ministry of defense will do , it is unlikely that it will be mr. reznikov standing somewhere in the evening with a soldering iron and riveting something there , and it is not necessary just to stimulate this the process of how to help private companies and the best city in ukraine to do this, ah, you know, in fact, this is already happening . what is being done now, and you, in fact , we can see in the production process how this production complex has changed, which is applied specifically in the direction of security. how between resigned since february 24, and even before that, how

it has changed since the 14th year, this is an indicator of the fact that ukraine is starting to create this already very effective developments that are competitive or even not leading if we are talking about an international comparison the ukrainian military-miltech sector or defense technologies, they will always be popular because they have proven their effectiveness not somewhere on the training grounds what at the presentations they have proven their effectiveness on the battlefield and by liberating and protecting a peaceful democratic country, the front of democracy of the whole world and ukrainian technologies will be always a decade ahead already popular and effective, we can really see within our country the future loctite martins or boeings who will create

their products and sort them for the whole world but one more point can be said that we need the help of the state and it is happening, if you see on the initiative of our ministry of digital transformations and according to the words of mr. mykhailo fedorov, you will see that in ukraine a whole cluster of technologies for protection is being created. production complexes and capacities of ukrainian enterprises to create and attract foreign investors and to invest in the country to invest in ukrainians to create new models of equipment, we should also have access to money, the changes that are happening now, especially it was recently announced in the direction of unmanned drones that ukraine can receive easier processes at the state level in order to put this equipment into service, to have more there a little profit in order to encourage foreign investment and all that is a complex of those

changes that will allow the same boeings as the fool from the marker to open branches here and certain logistics and production chains will be rebuilt around them because even a simple drone is manufactured in fact, the involvement of a dozen different technological chains, somewhere microchips, somewhere very powerful gps, a camera with 10 lenses, somewhere a thermal imager, somewhere batteries, all this in a complex can be combined into a drone and it actually needs to be done in chains so that there are more drone manufacturers and they are commercially competitive and effective on the international arena, the spokesman of the russian ministry of defense, konoshenko, again made a statement the other day about how many western howitzers they destroyed: 100,500 million.

have already destroyed all ukrainian planes three times, nevertheless they continue to fly and drop bombs successfully and their relays are lower. and video evidence that is easy to find on the internet , this is thanks to their lancet and cube, well, first of all, the lancet. that is, it shows how much this so-called sparing ammunition remains an effective weapon, and which one is really effective and dangerous. do we or do we have as well as some analogue and how to fight in principle with these lancets, first of all, this is really a weapon and any weapon, regardless of how it was created , this is a terrorist country

. a certain danger because it is actually firewood filled with explosives and so that there is no a-a it has a certain level of threat against civilian and anti-military targets a-a it is very important to compare that how much such equipment is used against border guards how many of these lancets reach de facto to its targets and it also destroys, but it cannot be said that it poses a total threat. no , it is not like that . you can rely exclusively on the information that was proposed and generally made public by the ministry of defense of ukraine . we have both ukrainian developments and international supplies

. we will receive there is always something high-tech, and when we talk about such stories, we must clearly understand that on the ukrainian side, world technologies, technologies that will automatically allow, independent of the operator, to find enemy equipment and destroy them without human participation using artificial intelligence tools , technologies that allow to provide a certain a corridor and the exchange of information between several-several protective supplies in order to distribute the goals among themselves, the understanding of what is needed inside us is that, in principle, we we are developing, look at what happened a year ago, if it is today, what kind of army was it powerful, the ukrainian army was powerful a year ago, but now it is one of the strongest armies in the world , the most experienced, the most beautiful

, equipped with innovative technologies and every month everything becomes even more powerful so when we talk about the comparison of some technologies, let's just understand one thing , the occupier is degrading, the ukrainian army is evolving every month, becoming even more effective , so thank you for this conversation and they inspire including valeriya yakovenko, the founder-don expert in unmanned technologies and robotics, was with us , we are talking about the future, which is, in particular, such things , such weapons, and such eyes of fighters at the front and artillerymen, in particular, as drones. well, of course, we do not forget donate, we are collecting drones for our gunners for just two such dons, and we will remind you about this tirelessly, because soon we will collect them and send them, and they will be even more effective, so to speak, to smear

the enemy, so to speak, to smear them under the audio cover these super guys are working. our heroes from the 110th arteriv brigade, we will show you the card and the account later. well, and so on . well, what about us now? andriy bychenko , the director of the sociological service of the razumkova center. god, what is the matter with tito's tongue ? mr. andriy seems good i advise you, mr. andriy, we are talking to you about a recent survey conducted by the razumkov center, which showed that the majority of ukrainians are finally positive about the eu and nato. 89% of ukrainians are in favor of the eu and 79% of ukrainians surveyed are in favor of nato. is there

some kind of dynamics. how much has this attitude changed or some kind of dynamics? how has this attitude changed since 1991? is there some kind of dynamic? at that time, i was not yet engaged in sociology and the sociological service, the razumkov center did not exist yet a but i can say that compared to the year 2000, especially in relation to nato, there have been absolutely, let’s say, drastic , grandiose changes, it was evil, and the attitude towards nato and the eu they are far from it the king always reigned among themselves. that is, for a long time the attitude towards the eu was in principle positive

, well, moderately positive, but the positive attitude prevailed over the negative , uh, starting from the same year 2000, in relation to nato, it was very such a cruel scarecrow of the soviets, which even pro-european citizens who supported all the changes who took part in the revolution of dignity in the revolution of 2004, they still had a very significant proportion of them had a negative attitude towards nato and until 2014 , before the invasion of russia. well, first in crimea, then in donbas, the attitude towards nato was very negative, no more than 25% of citizens there supported joining

nato , and after 2014 the situation changed . the establishment of such a negative attitude towards nato was thrown a lot more than mickey mouse , although in a shorter time, and in 2014 , an evil happened when there were more positive and positive attitudes than negative. well, already after february 24, 2022, the vast majority of citizens began to have a positive attitude towards nato, and here, first of all, we can say that if before that it was some kind of a tadpole worldview, after 2014 and especially after 2022, the attitude

before nato, it became absolutely practical, that is, the majority of ukrainians understood that this is, in principle, a stretcher that can at least save from russia in the long-term perspective , but it is simple. this is the attitude . is this change valuable? i mean , how deep is it? is or is it a pragmatic and practical change of orientation for the majority of ukrainians, who were still there a couple of years ago, the majority of ukrainians were against joining nato and became hostile, for example, to america, or let's say with great coolness , and russia, for example, was considered friend number one and a brotherly nation, and this is still the case now this change is it pragmatic or is it faster faster value in your opinion well, there is no here , let's say so, we are talking about society and in society there are different and it consists of

different people and different groups the attitude toward nato changed, er, it improved very slowly with the change of generations, that is, young people in any period of this time, young age groups treated nato better than er, older people , respectively, is, let’s say, not just a value for absolutely natural it is a component of these changes. but i think that the majority of people have changed pragmatically, but because they have changed their attitude for pragmatic reasons. this does not mean that it will roll back immediately, as i repeat here. not even at the level of values, it was too much that was put in, well, not just incredible efforts, resources, as well as informational

, financial, well, any soviet and russia , in fact, everything well, she is trying everywhere to work on this, but in ukraine it no longer works that's why when it broke, that is, it's like a cup. yes, when it breaks, you can glue it together, but it will still be a cracked cup and no one needs them. andrije, melting to nato to the eu, it also differed in ukraine depending on which region it was, which is more western then it is more favorable that it is more eastern or more southern , then with coolness with precisely these still soviet instructions что это nato это враг э это это враг э это это враг э это это это враг э это это враг э это это это враг э это это

враг э это это hostilities, so it is not possible to talk to everyone, how is your research? well, we are conducting research in the entire territory, except for the occupied territory, of course, and except for the territory where hostilities are directly conducted, but even in the city of kherson. we also, well, this is a survey was carried out, therefore, in principle, it was possible to cover everyone who lives in the unoccupied territory. now this division is preserved a little, but if it really existed before, well, he says that there were cardinal differences, now there are differences, but they are insignificant, they are not exactly poor in quality, they are insignificant in quantity, but in addition, it must be said here that now the regional structure of ukraine

is no longer so important because we know about extremely large population movements, that is, millions of people inside ukrainians moved abroad. therefore, now on all those issues, well, the external seam is very large, therefore, on all those issues, where before there were really significant regional differences, now they sometimes do not exist at all, depending on the issue. sometimes they persist, but are no longer significant and age characteristics are still preserved or older people under the influence of a full-scale invasion have also already changed their minds, well , there are small changes, small differences, but here you have to

understand that uh, when it comes to such big ones the indicators are like 89% or 79 throughout ukraine, even from a purely mathematical point of view there will not be big differences, well, if it is a random sample of e-e in groups, then the differences remain, but they are not significant now, you can return to e-e value orientation e everything seems very interesting to me, on the eve of the full-scale russian invasion , a very interesting survey was conducted about the soviet past and its influence on the lives of modern youth. you may know what it is about. well, only in general traits and uh, it was an interesting survey, it was made public after the war, and therefore it was after the beginning of what a large-scale war, and therefore it somehow got lost, in principle, there were no foci of attention, not much was said about it, but

it seems to me very interesting because sociologists schoolchildren aged 14-18 were interviewed, and it depended on them to try to trace whether there are any value frameworks of the soviet person so strongly soviet that they remain in the tepa of children of this age, who are not only born in ukraine, they are already born from people who were born in ukraine independence so this is actually the second generation of ukrainians of independent ukraine and they managed to discover that some stereotypes and actually value orientations of soviet people still remain very alive, for example there 70% of the circle completely agreed with theses that there are no irreplaceable people is a widespread opinion in the soviet union that devalued individuality itself or even more, it seems almost as if 67%

agreed with the thesis that the end justifies the means this is a totalitarian machiavellian country that stalin lenin loved very much . what do you think, does war also change the value orientations ? we will experience changes for more than one generation, even those uh children, as in the case of the soviet union, who have not yet been born , such crazy influences cannot pass without a trace for society, but here

we must also understand that there are different let's say influences on the one hand, well, in fact, until 2014, in general, it can be said that ukraine lived completely in the russian information space, that is, even the exceptions that were more likely to be called regional features of the russian information space, after 2014, this situation changed, but not so radically and only after the beginning of a large-scale war, it can be said that ukraine really, well , to a large extent, and still not completely , but to a large extent, fell out of the russian

information space, so let's say that the soviet peoples who are dominant in russia also influenced the ukrainians, well, let's say it's not that it's natural, it's a fact, but because it was like that . well, plus, some of these orientations or values ​​are not soviet after all. you yourself used the term machiavellian in e-e i.e. they are there for the first time to talk about different simple flow systems. let's say so well . thank you very much for this conversation. andriy bychenko , director of the metropolitan service. god, let's somehow continue this discussion in the next broadcasts of news from anzhelika sezonenko, so let's watch and we are listening angelica and the word greetings colleagues thank you russians continue to terrorize the civilian population of ukraine shelled a number of regions in the past day but among the good news there was a powerful explosion at the base of the russians in the temporarily