[000:00:00;00] and what about yourself, or more precisely, who is part of the so-called chinese party in moscow? well, of course, except for putin himself. in fact, i don’t even know , because such a party simply does not exist . there are people in moscow who are more or less neutral about relations with china, well, that is, what are they? we need useful ones, we need to develop them, but to say that they are supporters of china, well , that would be wrong. but mainly the majority of the russian alphabet is determined that we should be friends with the west and not with china, and they are afraid of china and restrain china and restrain chinese influence on the russian economy , that is, putin was inspired by the spirit of baron unger on fonsternberg, yes. that is, it was his personal decision that he did such a well, in fact , a huge somersault, that is, turning

180° in the air. well, what's going on politically, some plans, that's one thing, but putin taught the russian elite that they should not touch geopolitics, that it's only theirs , in fact, yes, and it's useful for him, he needs it , and the government, no. thank you for this extraordinary informative conversation ilya ponomaryov, a russian oppositionist, a former deputy of the state duma. well, the person is somewhat involved. since we understand donetsk - to the political part of the national republican russian army. well, we go further , we inform about important things. stand in krypnytskyi since the beginning of the great war, they record shows about the war crimes of the occupiers

against the civilian population, most often from residents of donetsk region, kherson region, kharkiv region, and mykolaiv region are making statements. let's take a look at the material prepared by our white colleagues. the balcony is our balcony, and here is my mother’s bedroom, that’s where she was, she flew out yes, it’s simple well, everything else was there, of course, marina shkuropat and her mother, nina tarasova , evacuated to kropyvnytskyi from bakhmut, even after the end of the war, they will have nowhere to return to the apartment of both women after enemy shelling are not subject to restoration . well, in september, my mother's house was destroyed as a result of an airstrike, and then in january , my uh, dna house was located. my apartment

burned down in a fire that happened as a result of it is very unfortunate that i had such a difficult childhood. he and she were also like that . old age, we repaired the threshold , heating was everything. because of the russian aggression, her relationship with the lord's husband was badly damaged. and he himself barely survived after being hit by an enemy rocket, two of their friends were killed , he saw that they were dead and fainted himself

, he was unconscious for several days, then he they earned an operation, they removed the spleen, 1.5 liters of blood were pumped out, they transplanted his skin from one place to another because it did not heal, he was contused, he spoke poorly, his hearing was almost gone, lidia toloshna came to kirovohrad oblast from ugledar, she says that her house and the city itself are unlikely to be restored by the occupiers they just wiped it off the face of the earth and in my house, there was a fireball on the first floor of a neighbor’s house, and it all burned and went straight to my dasha. they gave it a second time, now the resettlers turned to the prosecutor's office with statements about compensation for moral and material damage, testimony about the war crimes of the russians has been collected

here since the first days of torture, individuals contact law enforcement agencies and with statements about a criminal offense committed as a result of the armed aggression of the russian federation, we register criminal proceedings for in accordance with article 438 of the criminal code of ukraine, in the future , we recognize as victims of the fact of physical or moral damage to property in including also interrogating witnesses who were eyewitnesses of the armed aggression of the russian federation, now in kropyvnytskyi district prosecutor's office and subordinate police bodies registered 415 criminal proceedings on the fact of violation of the laws and customs of war, these were statements about intentional killing, physical moral and material damage, materials with the results of the investigation will be forwarded to international courts from kropyvnytskyi for the espresso tv channel. thank you colleagues. yes. we continue our broadcast in the studio

. the west of our great country, we will talk about lviv in particular and not only about lviv, because the topics we will discuss are relevant for the whole of ukraine yevhen kuzyk , a member of the lviv city council, with us in the studio, we welcome you, mr. yevgeny well, what do they say ? have already finalized the history with the moscow patriarchate in one form or another in lviv, we understand that the biggest battles were fought around the church on the so-called korolenko, this is the former name, now it is babanych street, there is such and such, but it is actually a very long story, it began back in in june of last year, because the lviv city council passed a resolution banning the activities of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, that is, for almost a year, nothing was done, and here literally in two days, and such are the events, so in sikhiv, we see on krasnoy kalyny avenue

that it was actually demolished this is a dismantled church . it will be dismantled. switched over to the side of the ukrainian orthodox church already of the kyiv patriarchate and yesterday was already the first such as a divine service er there were some such a-ar ardent discussions between clergymen and between parishioners among er residents of the city of lviv who came to pray in the er kyiv church patriarchy and well, there were such discussions, but we understand that this story is happening not only in lviv, but throughout ukraine, since in fact the activity of these structures has a frank, so to speak, anti-state and anti-ukrainian

character. and it is good that we already have the supreme the draft laws on the prohibition of the activities of the church of the moscow patriarchate are welcome. it is a pity that there are many of them and that there will probably be ongoing discussions about which exactly which bill to take . and the third resolution. i apologize for the bill and we hope that these are the things that are happening in different cities. they somehow get such a synergy that will reach kyiv, which will ultimately end with the victory of the ukrainian church. and on that anti-russian and anti-ukrainian proper-moscow church that is now, unfortunately, there were a lot of them and unfortunately there are still many in ukraine, but nevertheless, somewhere they are breaking the agreement actually uh, as we have

antonovych street and there is actually this premises forged an agreement with the moscow patriarchate. well, someone privately decided to do it somewhere, the community had to join in and show its will to explain to people who also want to stand up for the moscow church and explain their own vision why this should be done and how important is it for the community for ukraine, in particular, during the war between ukraine and russia, eh somewhere maybe that side will also be present on bobanicha street yesterday and listened eh side is talking about the parish and church of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate so none of those participants in the discussion did not call themselves a lvivian, that is, i wanted to make sure to say ok , come on, comrades, you are from lviv, no one told me, well, with whom i spoke, no one could tell me that he was not from lviv, that is, he did not confirm that

the difference let's go let's go without it, we are god's servants there and the discussion turned to god's topic and about whether these are really lviv residents are they people who came from possible to neighboring cities, maybe even from distant cities to lviv , and that's how they spoke in ukrainian so they were able to discuss a lot on various topics and talk more about god than about that anti-state position, which we tried to explain to them why we act like this but nevertheless, i am not sure that these people are actually from lviv until the end and accordingly a if we talk, for example, about a discussion with them, was there any level of aggression or indignation, i would like to ask you, mr. yevgeny, and they will be ready. well, ok, they canceled the lease agreement, they canceled it in general , that is, they covered up, so to speak, the functioning of the uoc mp in lviv itself, and the people well, if they are believers, if they believe, that means they have

to go somewhere, well, accordingly, the orthodox church of ukraine opened its brotherly embrace , so to speak, and invited it to itself. how this matter will look will depend on the orthodox church. churches of the ukrainian patriarchate, and they need to work well with the faithful now, listen to everyone, discuss with everyone, hold a conversation, be open 24/7 and explain the position that we are definitely not for aggression, we are definitely not there to expel someone, there is a solution, we are now implementing it decision and we are ready for a discussion, we are ready to continue serving god and this actually has all the advantages. that is, that history should unite all ukrainians. that is, we do not want to quarrel with anyone, maybe even those guys or the girls who came from other cities will somewhere listen to us, somewhere will hear our position and not without aggression, we need to communicate, it is not there to rush into pushing and fighting, absolutely it should be such a friendly conversation between

ukrainians, which should unite ukrainians against russia, explain the position to explain why er well, about those scandals, to remind what happened in chernivtsi region, where during the funeral, they couldn't er, could n't bring the soldier's coffin to the church, this is wrong , there can't be such stories well, this is absolutely er f history which united unfortunately unfortunately this story probably united all ukrainians and prompted them to take decisive action against the moscow churches in various cities. i think so, because why was the resolution registered and voted on in june 22nd, and suddenly in two days such violent actions and well it is possible in different ways and the story. yes, we understand that a full -scale russian invasion took place after and in that it is one moment, the second moment that there were political initiatives , there were legislative initiatives, but somehow they did not

work. and after that, when we saw it video from kamenets-podilskyi so when the priests pounced on our soldier and accordingly a violent reaction began, i.e. from khmelnytskyi, from khmelnytskyi in the chernivtsi region, the fallen hero could not be brought , the mother of the soldier asked the priest to allow him to carry the hard to the temple, but he refused, and this story is definitely a plus another story, where there was a fight, it actually united ukrainians, uh, with the understanding that well , that's it, that's it, that's the bottom , that's the bottom. take a stand and show the moscow patriarchate that they have no place here. if you want to pray to god, let's pray together for ukraine, for its will, for honor and glory for the people , but in ukrainian orthodoxy in

the church. they did pr. probably, but more than that, everyone communicated and thought and united how to actually act in order to achieve the result. because you can communicate a lot and the result should be obvious to the side. he should go to the side of the ukrainian people. she should go to the side. of the ukrainian church and we see that the result, thank god, is still there, we need to unite and we need to communicate so that the vyrans in other cities do similar actions, and if somewhere in some place there is still not a voted resolution banning the activities of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, this must be done, it must be addressed to the president to the verkhovna rada and it is necessary to adopt relevant laws already in kyiv and in the verkhovna rada of ukraine yes, we may agree because only this will be able to relieve public pressure

yes, well, we understand that there is an initiative on the ground, people are reacting, people are proving, so to speak, and so on, but we need to solve this matter of the system , we agree that it is clear that in lviv , this process has moved from place to place , on the other hand, there are cities where hmm with this drag on and this topic is especially relevant in the center and east of our country, so in your opinion , it should be regulated somehow at the legislative level, at the state level, or are local communities capable of acting like in lviv? well, what they can to make communities on the ground, communities are also made in lviv in our country there were four places, in fact, where there were parishes of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, now these places are gone, unfortunately, it all happened after these or other events, either in the chernivtsi region or in another

region and now is actually the time not to think, to communicate with animals, to explain what needs to be united around the ukrainian church, to tell what, who and how , what actions are being taken on the grounds of the places where this moscow church serves, so to speak , to explain and tell actually options why is it important to explain that after all it is an anti-state and anti-ukrainian church or a parish there or some of their ministers of this church they well, i am not talking about treason yes, but you can also say that in reality because if you act against the ukrainian army if you you are acting against the people of ukraine. you are a traitor. and yesterday the clergy were already dissuading themselves from some of their brothers of the moscow patriarchate and said that we do not

support their actions . at least it's so good that on the last day they at least understand, looking sincerely at the water, they understand and affirm something but nevertheless, there are many more, i'm not afraid if i say hundreds of eh in the city where the moscow church operates and the communities in those cities actually need it are determined to act, and then if such things happen in small towns, villages, and big cities, then for sure it will be a big signal in the verkhovna rada of ukraine . you have to legalize this not at the state level and a single law should be adopted. it is possible to combine all these draft laws into one. listen to everyone and it is definitely necessary to unite all those deputies

. it is good as far as your resolutions are concerned. they will join the e-e orthodox church of ukraine and what will actually happen with, for example, well, actually with the buildings of churches with some material part of the existence of the russian orthodox church to adjust yes, well, fortunately no lviv city council or any city council cannot influence the transition of clerics from one convention to another denomination, yes, and this is extremely important, the story is so key, the key thing is that the parishioners of this so-called svyatogorsk capital church independently decided to switch yes, but we understand that the task was to create proper conditions for them, therefore, regarding, for example, the halyny

90 e-e 6 well, the church that is in sikhiv there in july the uoc community of the moscow patriarchate of the sikhiv district independently moved to the lviv sokal diocese of the lviv sokal diocese after the last session the lviv city council made a decision that it is necessary to actually allocate a place for the construction of the cathedral, accordingly, this parish, which is there, may be small, but it is there, it should have the right to go to this church. the ukrainian orthodox church and the patriarch of kyiv this is the ukrainian patriarchate and they think that if they have already moved, then they will already visit and serve and serve and be parishioners of this cathedral in relation to the church that is on babanych street, then i understand what is actually possible for those people who came from other cities, they will return to themselves, the owners of lviv

who went will continue to be able to visit the church, pray to god and, as they say, to serve god, let them serve is the only thing that is needed at the moment , anyway if the liszka city council made a decision to ban the activities of the moscow patriarchate, well, this decision must be taken from the other side, so this is also a key story, or is it within the competences and powers of the lviv city council, because here we have to understand this fine line between there on freedom of speech is sometimes talked about when the prohibition of the russian church is mentioned, local councils cannot regulate everything that happens on their territory, we cannot , for our part, what could we do, we did it a year ago, now it is necessary to discuss it, explain to people why we did this , explain what some some serve in the church

of the moscow patriarchate, they are traitors and we definitely do not share traitors, we definitely will not share their opinions and we do not want them to serve here and act for the good of russians this the only reason why it was banned in the moscow church and actually this should be said to people, you need to communicate with them without aggression, without any uh, there are strong quarrels fact one fact two fact three ask questions get feedback from them get an answer unfortunately they avoid these questions and they unfortunately, they want to move on to the topic of the church, god, and so on . they don’t want to enter into a discussion about why the moscow church acts against their country. they don’t want to discuss this topic. if you don’t want

to discuss, then let’s pray together. to god, but in the ukrainian church, and that is, they are also trying to translate social issues into a purely theological plane. yesterday i felt it. yesterday i heard it when i actually discussed with those young girls and boys who came to defend and say that we are forbidden to pray, and no one forbids us to pray absolutely under time of the video we remember that we could pray at home and the most important thing is that you have in your soul in your heart and your faith is with you wherever you are. actually, now this is a statist position, our lviv city council defended a statist position position, because there is no place for traitors in ukraine, regardless of whether the church is a sports ground or some other building, there is no need to discuss it, if you are a traitor , you belong here, you belong either in prison or somewhere in the east beyond the territory of luhansk and donetsk regions. to the situation, so to speak, with decisions on the ground, this is one

direction, on the other hand, we understand that there is such an approach as the termination of lease agreements, but there was a proposal to terminate the dog lease with the pochaiv assumption lavra, yes in particular, with that environment or cell of the ukrainian orthodox church of the russian orthodox church, which, so to speak, formalizes it, well, and accordingly, something similar . we hope that it will also be completed with regard to the kyiv-pechersk lavra , that is, the process about this is ongoing, that is, the issue of property. well, as we see it, it is also a question of lease agreements. it is effective, yes, but unfortunately , once again, the rhetoric of the believers is the rhetoric of the clergy , what are you preventing us from serving? our soldiers, what the security service asks them, well, they don't ask, but the responsible bodies somewhere communicate at their level and there are also questions from, respectively, now it is necessary to understand that

it is necessary to bring the case to the end and not to stop, and what agreements are still needed, if they are played out, do not continue that's for sure, and the next step is to do it as much as possible in a good, if i could say it, even friendly, maybe somehow in the form of yes, because after all , these are people, somewhere they were misled, and this should also be realized. yes, because somewhere they were under the influence of a real person somewhere, they were possibly under the influence of some other financial influence or i don't know what kind of influence, and it is also necessary to understand and treat those people with a little respect, because we understand that we must be united now and definitely not quarrel with by those people who were introduced by you, explain as much as possible, be loyal as much as possible, be as public as possible and openly discuss with them, debate, as we came to babanych street yesterday, were hiding somewhere

, convinced, and somewhere already that girl who she was leaving this church somewhere she already understood maybe at least she definitely understood our position somewhere maybe she wasn't right and she wanted to convey to us the information that let's not get involved in politics because it's all politics but i'm sorry, war is not politics, it's war already in fact, the actions are very serious and aggressive, and here it is necessary to take real actions around the banning of the russian church, because they are our enemies and they act like enemies, and this is no longer politics, it is simply an anti-state position that it is necessary to ban ban and say goodbye to the moscow church forever i would like to remind yevhen kuzyk is in the raft of the lviv city council important news arrived video of the operational command south the defense force significantly pushed the russians on the kinburn

spit of the coordination press center of the force defense of the south of ukraine, i quote, we are working quite successfully and i already have some information about our successes, it is too early to tell in general , it may indicate that you have significantly explained the enemy at least once every two days, the enemy dares to pull out an artillery installation on the kinbur spit, to mark its presence on the western part of the kinbur spit, fire at it at the dnieper-buzka estuary, hinting at the control of sea and transport routes , but the enemy's permanent presence there is not recorded, this information is important, in fact, in the meantime, ukraine is looking for possibilities for the return of children from the russian federation were reported in the prosecutor general's office, however , there is still no single algorithm or mechanism of action that would make it possible to return the deportees to

to russia of ukrainian children, said yulia usenko, head of the department for protection of children's interests and anti-violence of the prosecutor general's office, 328 children managed to be returned home, but in general, russia took more than 16,000 minor ukrainians out of ukraine , a member of the lviv city council , so to speak. the solution of the church issue in lviv, well, i am so ironic, but also the news in cherkassy, ​​the metropolitan of the uoc mp is suspected of justifying russian aggression, the security service of ukraine reported a new suspicion metropolitan feodosius of the cherkasy eparchy of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, law enforcement officers claim that they have collected indisputable evidence of his guilt in denying the armed aggression of russia against ukraine and the justified actions of the invaders . a site based on

the template of the russian orthodox church , well, all kinds of destructive material components, i.e., materials of all such a destructive plan was pushed there in lviv, there were some similar stories, i just read this is my own testimony that we , as residents, as a community , must act absolutely within the limits of our competence, and the security service of ukraine must understand that we are asking them, we are not demanding, we are asking them to act within the law of course, but aggressively and brought the matter to a conclusion, because there are limits of competence, we have the lviv city council. all that we could do, i think so, we have already done is the security service of ukraine, it works well, works within the limits too

of their competence and i hope that they are still you if there are events or some acts committed by illegal monks of the moscow patriarchate, then they will actually be able to collect all this evidence and, in fact, at their level , also take certain actions in lviv, responding to your question, i don't know if there were any such websites , or any established organizations, all the actual parishes, uh, we know them, like there were four, as of the day before yesterday , there were three, and in fact they stopped or are stopping their activities, and that's all thanks to the security service of ukraine thanks to the people of lviv thanks to those caring boys and girls who come under the walls and actually demand that the moscow patriarchate be banned in lviv, so thank you very much

to all those who were on korolenko or babanych street yesterday. who were on pekarska street, all those people. actually, they have the right to defend the ukrainian church in ukraine and have an unfinished story that without provocations, within the limits of the current legislation, it was possible to implement extremely not just some very thank you now for this studio, the deputy of the lviv city council, ulyana panasyuk, yes, antin berkovskiy, we spent this evening with you, our colleagues will continue the broadcast, so, serhiy rudenko, next, glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko . good day and good health to all, today is the sixth of april 407 the day of the ukrainian people's heroic response to the russian occupiers . the british ministry of defense foresees new dismissals of the top military personnel of the russian federation due to failures in ukraine . french president manuel macron met with cd-in-spin