[000:00:00;00] year, out of 21,000 personnel and 300 units of equipment, they really have, in terms of high-quality equipment, little by little, little by little, little by little, the potential is reduced and all that is more or less good . classic infantry ramparts are now and will be the main tactic of the enemy , and there is no need to think about the fact that they put people, they do not spare, because that is how they have always been, and we understand that the more our enemy will lie in our steppes, the more it will be easier for our grandchildren to fight with them again, the line of matchmaking crime, we talk a lot about bakhmut, about avdiivka, on the other hand, she also causes concern because the fighters actually from

the front from that direction say that the envoys there have intensified, the various actions of the russians have intensified, what is actually there and can we expect any reinforcement battles in that direction, there is not a single secondary point of the front, all are important, indeed, now the greatest attention is focused on the eastern bridgehead. it is absolutely logical that it is necessary to understand this arc , the saint is a criminal. only one aspect is the r-66 working route, which is used to transport a large part of the ammunition, the artillery reaches this route, and it is banal that they need to move our firing lines as far as possible as far as possible, as far as this will be successful. well, so far we manage to significantly restrain their attacking maneuvers, how will we see the opening of additional areas of the front , in particular, it is said about the attempts of the russians to counterattack or attack, in particular, it is about the north and the south, but we just talked to

a fighter who happens to be in the south, so he says that the situation is stable at the moment, well, about concentration the enemy, we do not know about this, they may know in the main intelligence department, in particular, it is about anti-technique and about personnel , yes, and the issue of the north, the story seems to be different , but what do you think, mr. peter, what are the prospects that they will add their additional capabilities in order to open and there, well, here are the serious events that we are observing in donetsk region, if the north is to hold our country at all, i understood whether they could not resort to such an act of fussing, but why not, they showed that their tactical thinking is quite specific to it no one can figure it out, let's recall the series

, because it was already a series that was in chernobaivka, i got lost in the forest, how many times did they put forward two dozen, maybe more, and the personnel and equipment, we destroyed them it is true, the same applies to snake island several times , people and equipment were landed on a completely bare bridgehead, we struck them, they did it again, that is, from the point of view of common sense, but it does not go to the head but they still do or can’t resort to this act. of course, by what forces and means in order for it to really be felt and hurt, we need at least 40,000 corps, this corps needs 825 tanks, 2,500 units of armored combat vehicles, and what not less than 1,000 artillery barrels and machine tools with combat vehicles are a huge problem if they are at the beginning of this war when we were really not ready for an attack from the north we could not break through our defenses now that

the line is built there i have a game there everything mined for fortified what they are counting on is extremely difficult for me to understand along with what the great mark tully or ceron said the closer the collapse of the empire, the crazier their actions if they resort to such an act of madness welcome we cannot refuse them to turn the remains into scrap and again to bury as many of our enemies as possible zaporizhian direction in me peter how do you see the initiatives now in my opinion i am speaking of a general strategic opinion, i really do not like to go into the details of the front, but i have such a personal analytical position i have the experience that my words were analyzed by the opponents practically prove the opponent of the novel, so to speak, give false signals false signals please tell me we are not waiting for the enemy in the zaporizhzhia direction, everything is demined and so on, i will talk about this issue in a slightly more serious context, with the exception of the eastern bridgehead , where the enemy is in such a state

i do not share the opinion of the attacking party that their offensive has already completely choked, they are still advancing, they have greatly reduced this pace , they have greatly reduced it, if we say in march the number of attacks per day in syaglamerakh is 120, now within 70, we understand that this is a significant decrease and the general front line for the second time in well, the so-called strategic balance of fire, the first time we were in this strategic balance of fire, from may to september , a month until the brilliant kharkiv offensive operation took place and then the equally high-quality kherson operation and starting from january, with the exception of this very triangle in the east, the entire front line is in relative balance, will there be a break in the mandatory the order of the question is only sometimes and under what circumstances . well, i would like to ask you, mr. peter, what the so-called

russian fortifications of the second and third lines, which they actively built in the same south, represent in general , so the information comes that they are building additional fortifications in the same melitopol . they are not building it just like that, we understand that they are trying to predict the implementation of the plans of our general staff, but if we talk about their line of defense, because it is not only us, you know how that's what we call or consider the line of energy, i don't know the line of the zaluzhny, and so on. well, but the enemy is also , so to speak, digging in, digging in, concreting , in the part that concerns fortification , the quality of fortification along the old line of demarcation up to february 24 of last year cannot be underestimated year. there really is a kind of modern line. let me remind you that the line from dikrad is a kind of defensive rampart of nazi germany in the west, in part of holland, a huge

number of thousands of bunkers were built there. and it is really old the line is quite serious and i have some such certain if it is skepticism , how to pass it, the circle will reach this point. and the fact that they are building primarily on the cock, well, to be honest, it is not so critical, it will be possible to pass more than that, we will talk about it in our analyzes that very good american m58 systems have arrived in ukraine, by the way, a long time ago , this is just specially so that no one misses this special information, this is an approximate analogue of the ur-77 demining machine, such special two guides are thrown far forward at 70 m, and this one is such chain, it has a huge amount of explosives, first of all, if in the american version of c4 it can reach 3-4-5-6 kg per meter and a colossal large one is created, when

these guides are thrown somewhere up to 6 m wide, a huge explosive wave is created and there are all mines all the shelters, everything, it is completely destroyed and a passage is created gradually , how can they move like this, the cars have already arrived to us, they are there, they were officially certified in the previous packages of our assistance, that is , there is just an understanding of how to pass and what to pass through these fortifications. but in the part that concerns the repetition of the old demarcation line, here everything is much more difficult. you will need an incredibly huge number of concrete-blasting shells for artillery and heavy bombs. well, super-heavy bombs are already serious aviation. well, let's say the jbl-57 e weighs 12 tons and we have such a bomber as the b-52, i still can’t imagine how this machine can enter our airspace. and we would also like

to ask about more such global things if we do not dwell on the situation on on the fronts, russia is actually trying to somehow encourage belarus to take part in the war in ukraine in some new way. putin repeatedly went to lukashenka with various statements about using nuclear weapons on the territory. belarus, etc. so, an attack from belarus, some more active actions from belarus, as far as they are possible there now, again, everything is possible, madness can happen, do they have a full-fledged resource for this? no, the maximum they have is 15,000 personnel, they are quite well prepared this is a little more than a mechanized division based on the old structures of the soviet union, which is 12 and a half thousand

. can they be abandoned? in the end, i will remind you that , after all, at the beginning of this war, a contingent from belarus went, especially to the chernobyl zone , dug in even in the ancestral forest. lukashenko, this is the final act of madness for himself and the final registration of himself as a war criminal. i don't know. putin is really holding a very serious , sharp knife to his throat. the question is when will he dare this is to be applied, that is, is lukashenko alive at all, physically, but the forces that are at this moment in the strategic context will not change the advantage of the war or will it be painful and excruciatingly painful, because war in itself is a bad and despicable phenomenon, but in such a number of up to 15,000 the personnel of the weather will not be made and i emphasize for the second time my mannerheim line in the north, we have already overcome it, we have built

it, it will be incredibly difficult for the enemy to pass it, in any case, we understand that it would be a disaster for the belarusian troops it is clearly not enough, and therefore the key issue here is the speed of deployment of additional, for example, russian contingents. well, we are not observing this yet. for now, you and i are analyzing the current operational and tactical situation on the fronts. valery zaluzhny of ukraine informed the participants about the operational situation in the main directions of the front and the commander of the operational and strategic groups of troops reported on the course of hostilities in the areas of the front within the area of ​​their responsibility , the chief of the main directorate of intelligence budanov spoke about the likely actions of the enemy in the near future, and members of the stake reviewed in detail the course of formation and arming of new brigades, attention was also paid to the level of personnel training therefore, the issue

of shell hunger is just as important. we understand that in modern war, the issue of providing both sides of the army with shells and ammunition is very important and there is always a shortage of them at the front. so, there was information that europe did agree to provide us with a-ah hmm, we also know that ukraine is starting to produce various types of ammunition, yesterday we talked to one of the heads of state-owned enterprises that are starting to develop ammunition for ukraine. projectiles in ukraine are needed for, for example , a successful mood will succeed, but the question is difficult, so let's find out a little more broadly what is projectile hunger, and from our side and from

their side, i would like to ask for a few minutes too serious, because the war at this moment remains 95% an artillery war. so, at the beginning of this war, the russian federation had reserves of shells of various calibers ranging from 15 to 20 million, this is a colossal amount at a time when the united states of america at the beginning of this war had two of they no longer had half a million projectiles in stock, the russian military economy can produce up to 125,000 projectiles per month, and only at this moment the americans are reaching the figure of 20,000 per month, and they started when the war had just started 13,000 declare that they will reach the figure of 50,000 by the end of the summer. how were all those shells used last year, especially in the summer? i saw it with my own eyes on the eastern bridgehead. during the day, the russians used from 45 to 6 to 80,000 shells a day. this is an incredible

amount in that time. while at that time we could use a maximum of 4-5000 is this a lot one small historical example during the killing in the valley of the kerang river in 1965 the americans in vietnam used 16,000 shells of 105 mm caliber in 53 hours , all this is a colossally huge indicator if in the summer it was 80,45,80,000, now 15 has significantly decreased at this moment , they used about 80% of their entire ammunition stockpile. so, they can produce up to 4,000 per day, now they use up to 15,000, and this indicator will fall fall fall fall fall fall and will reach the point of four thousand if, god forbid , the chinese will not interfere in this process, and in the west, on the contrary, a large conveyor has been launched and

it will be mandatory it is necessary to press and soon will the point come? i think it will be indicators of 7,000 when we apply equally the number of artillery volleys per day, and then when the huge euro-atlantic conveyor belt starts working, we will move to the part of building up and exceeding the potential of projectiles as such with our enemy, and this will be the turning point that can change the war , we agree, but on the other hand, we understand that the specifics of american military actions of military operations, in that they actively use aviation, heavy bombers , fighter jets, attack aircraft, and so on, that is , the russians have currently focused on the artillery and mortar units, and so on the americans really did not prepare for the fact that the russians would try to wage a war similar to the first world war, and we understand

that the world is surprised because civilized countries use such things with the help of aviation, as at one time in the united states they burned, so to speak, saddam's armored vehicles huseyn, who also directed a bunch of ironclad attacks, america got the ball. well, okay , let's talk about this one, let's talk about other things a little later, sit down . yes, use it, it remains. and we have a novel on the phone. the head of kherson, the head of the kherson humanitarian project, let us be in touch, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, i congratulate you with the heroes , glory. so, mr. romanov, the operational situation in kherson , the enemy is constantly shelling the city and neighboring cities without stopping. so, please , how was this day well, this day, like the previous ones, passed with intense shelling

, including the use of e-e mlrs installations, tanks , mortars, in principle, everything is armed. populated areas, primarily the coastal zone, and now the occupiers have actively begun to use aerial bombardments and, well, every night , in fact, the coastal zone of the populated areas of the kherson region is bombarded, precisely because of the aerial bombardment, there are enough such heavy blows that the kherson region suffers and including with the victims of novels, they increased the intensity of shelling because you mentioned in particular the use of aviation. well, we would like to immediately clarify how intensively, in what quantity, and so on, well, in fact, every at night, the air is on, the alarm goes off, and there is information about

the threat of air strikes, according to my observations , for about five last days, this situation happened, and at least two two 2.4-6 air bombs were dropped on the territory of the kherson region that is, depending on the day there, but it became regular and they regularly began to use exactly this type of shelling of the territory of ukraine, the territory of the kherson region. i will note once again that such shelling causes quite significant destruction in terms of intensity in general. well, it can be noted that, in principle, it fluctuates plus or minus, well, at such an average level , if we are talking about the city of kherson - there are several dozen shellings a day, from 10 there to 15 to 20. so , in principle, these shellings depend on their intensity on the number of shells that they

use but on average it is around 10-15 shellings per day, if we are talking about intense shellings that were a little earlier , now we can say it is a little calmer, it is up to 40 shellings per day of the city itself. roman, in your opinion, what is the purpose of these shelling, that is, that this is a crime, that is clear, that this is barbarism, that is clear, but they bomb daily, in particular, civilian objects on the right bank of kherson, but what are they trying to achieve by storming the dnieper, they can't, they can only kill civilians, but that's not for them gives some specific military result, civilian objects are attacked not in particular, but mainly . so, most of the strikes fall precisely on the peaceful infrastructure and, above all, on residential quarters and administrative

buildings that perform civilian functions, so well perhaps this says more than anything that the occupiers are trying to raise a certain informational wave of their presence on the left bank of the kherson region and through these kinds of terrorist attacks . they are there and they are firing at me, there is another explanation, for example, there is no reason to fire at the civilian population. well , of course, this is the classic behavior of the occupiers - it is revenge. i think that this is also one of the elements through which the civilian population is fired upon. well, probably last but not least, these are already some military targets, although i will point out once again that most of the strikes come on the peaceful infrastructure of kherson, in particular, from cities that

are even closer to the demarcation line, so how is the evacuation taking place, or are there many willing to the city of kherson itself and the right bank of kherson oblast have already been occupied there for about 5 months. that is why the bulk of the population that is located in the city of kherson was evacuated during the entire occupation because it lasted for quite a long time until on november 22nd, let me remind you that the majority of the population in one way or another tried to evacuate precisely the contents of the right bank when the territory was de-occupied, in principle there was also a mass evacuation, many of the population evacuated to the nearby cities of mykolaiv-odesa . there are those people left in the city who, in principle, either do not want to evacuate from the city or, well, do not have such an opportunity, although in

principle now there are all the possibilities for this, and there, in general, evacuation takes place in such an emergency format when a shot or the house no longer has a place to live, or there is a street, neighboring houses, well, a direct threat to life, and well, in such cases, people agree to evacuate, and i will repeat once again that these people are mostly left in the city now, because what functions do they perform management and maintenance of the life of the city, or those who do not want to leave it for various reasons. thank you, mr. romana. romana, head , ex-deputy mayor of kherson , head of the kherson humanitarian project , worked now live on the espresso tv channel, we will add it to our the broadcast of viktor bondarenko, an expert of the bureau of political analysis, is mr. viktor with us yet? yes, mr. victor, mr. viktor. glory

to ukraine. glory to the heroes and good health . i congratulate you. beams well, jokes, jokes, we understand that we just talked with roman, the main thing is how he described the situation in kherson oblast, the enemy is shelling kherson oblast, the enemy is shelling from sumy oblast, not viktor, how intensified the russian shelling er well, for the last month, in principle , er , somewhere they are shelling in a friendly manner, shelling several communities of such communities every day. skirmishes are not frequent, but it’s still noticeable, it’s so that we don’t take the troops from here and don’t transfer them to other areas, well, that’s

because the enemy wants to do something here, if he owns it strategic initiative we are not moving to the other side of the border either we fire on the other side of the border, and they fire and cross, the only thing is that ours will be, if not in a populated place, but somewhere, well, as they say in the squares, yes, there, if they see a battery of mines fixed there , they can respond, but in principle, ukraine is not a principled there are in their settlements, that is, in tyotkina, not in rayvera, our shells do not fly, mines do not fly, and theirs fly to us, this is their advantage , but well, what are we people, they are not people, what are you doing? arrived , a light aircraft crashed in the bryansk region we don't know. we can't confirm, so to speak, whether it's a russian fake or if there really was such a thing. but we understand that the situation can heat up and there is no information that they are, for example

, forming something like that on the borders of the sumy region . no, not now. well, such a strange war is not like the second world war. they remember that during the second world war, rokosovsky brags that we gathered a million soldiers there, and it was a surprise for the wehrmacht, because there was some kind of secret that is now a secret from of american satellites, they will overturn the battalion and we will already know. well, that is, the intelligence has made a war for another when we see their movements in real time. although i think that if we start to advance, one of their operational-tactical tasks may be to go in, too. in the depths of the ukrainian territory, in the sumy , kharkiv, and chernihiv regions, where , let's say, the border is exactly the line of contact, yes, the line

of contact there is of low intensity, well, it is the same as it was before february 24 in donbas, this is donbas there, let's say, er, in the 21st year, there it is sumyshchyna in the 23rd year. well, it is somewhere like that, but when we move and win, for example , to distract them, they can start entering here, although again, i am sure that with all their movements, we will allies will report that they have moved from the suzhi district to the tyotkin district. there are 300 people there, 20 units of military equipment . well, for example, we will know everything. well , viktor bondarenko is not easy . you will understand . indeed the value is so in the all-ukrainian political science or polytechnic segment well, accordingly, drunk viktor, we would like to ask you about the history

, so to speak , with a certain revitalization of the internal political process in ukraine , we understand. a different way. really? well, what does your perceptive political scientist tell you? is it possible that some elections, re-elections and so on are coming? well, you choose. and according to the constitution of the election code, it is impossible , they did not give it to us after our victory, for example, yes that is, we will see a victory, we will see something and everyone mistakenly believes that for some reason everyone looks at the current ratings in the current position, everyone gasps at the ratings of zelensky , but how do the chickens count in the fall? yes, and that is , let's talk about the ratings that will be at the end of the war society is tired of war and we have some of the same churchill when churchill was needed during the war, the war ended and the english needed someone else yes, we are

the most intelligent english, well, i would like to believe which is more reasonable, but at least it has been sufficiently shown that it is not the case, and that is why it is now very premature to talk about any possible ratings about the configuration of how many there are in zelensky , how many will gain asylum. what is there in poroshenko, although zelensky and poroshenko clearly have a stable electorate, yes, let's say yes to poroshenko 15% of your reinforced concrete ones that you won’t move anymore. and zelenskyi has it , for example, more than 20% of them. that’s for sure. and the rest of the electorate will move here and there, so it’s difficult to predict the winner now. everything will depend on that. and how the victory will end. for ukraine, because uh, when they started messing around, politicians started talking about what, including in ukraine, what and maybe when we reach the administrative borders of crimea, we will start a political process, and our non-entry into

crimea will already mean no to victory, which means zelenskyi's rating will change, let's not forget that any society gets tired of war and the more society gets tired, the lower zelenskyi's rating will be. that 's why it's difficult to forecast something now, you know , we can talk about forecasts when we really we will go to the administrative borders of crimea and it will be there well, for sure it will happen this year, but the eastern front of donbas will still remain and the southern front will still be narrower there, well, in the direction of crimea so i wouldn't start to guess prematurely who will be the president? however, now there are lice in the president's office. well, he doesn't manage the fair. thank god he doesn't manage our troops and doesn't manage the war. i would worry about our armed forces, but he doesn't manage what they do and they are

there . engaged in strengthening the military the administrations somewhere are strengthening the investigation influence in the regions, well, at least yarmak tymoshenko is replacing them with his own yes well, there is something else being done somewhere there, there is a court there , there is an attempt to poroshenko after them, this is what roshen and the contraband in roshen's cars somewhere there to try. that's why it's him somewhere there, well, his ratings there will multiply by zero victor , you're not enough, you're always not enough on our air , unfortunately we have to pass the word here, we say goodbye viktor bondarenko , expert of the political analysis bureau, extremely interesting productive conversation and now another thing anzhelika sezonenko is ready to present an urgent new news release so anzhelika, we pass the baton to you, we congratulate you on the air thank you, colleague, the russians shelled the temporarily occupied donetsk unfortunately, there were also deaths and injuries among civilians the security service of ukraine reported the suspicion