[000:00:00;00] and news and what they are important. and what they put an emphasis on, as they say, let's watch together, let's listen. and then at 9:30 p.m. we will welcome the tailors of september. you will be at the press . good evening. we are from ukraine , live from ukraine and from london. i am yevgenia shedlovska and today in issue in the social network, the plans of the united states and nato regarding the preparation of the ukrainian offensive were confused, does this endanger the possible actions

of the armed forces of ukraine? let's talk about what's happening at the front in social networks on twitter and telegram there are pictures from secret documents of the pentagon and nato about the preparation of the ukrainian offensive , the american publication new york times wrote about it with reference to anonymous sources in the biden administration, representatives of ukraine called the appearance of such documents a russian special operation and photoshop. so what is in these merged documents. if only the american edition were there. there are no concrete plans for hostilities. there is information about the needs of the ukrainian army as of march 1, how many brigades will be prepared, what equipment are they receiving, there is data on the consumption of doheimers ammunition, which the pentagon did not report, as noted by analysts, the documents have been partially changed, so the estimate of russian losses seems to be implausibly underestimated by 16-17 thousand, this falsity may indicate to attempts at disinformation

in favor of russia, which the leak has already appeared in pro-russian channels, and as the new york times writes, american officials tried to obtain the release of these documents from social network, but so far we are successful and the pentagon is investigating who is behind the leak, what was the reaction of the representatives of ukraine , the adviser to the head of the president's office mykhailo podolyak joked that the russians will soon see the real plans of ukraine on the battlefield and they will soon see them podolyak believes that the russians have not begun to destroy the channels for receiving intelligence from the pentagon for the sake of a one-day information occasion, as he said, and in the main intelligence office they believe that this is a russian special operation and this is what the representative of the main said on the air the intelligence directorate of andriy yusov, the most successful operations of the russian special services in recent decades took place in photoshop, this is his quote. he believes that the russians could forge documents in order to disrupt or slow down western aid

, and by the way, earlier the secretary of the national security council, oleksiy danilov, said that only five people in the world are familiar with the counteroffensive plan. very secret information and what did russia react , the spokesman for the russian president, dmytro piskov , said that such data testify to the participation of the united states in the war and in communication with us military expert mykhailo zhirokhov, we will talk together in general about what depends on the ukrainian counteroffensive and its success, based, of course, on the official information that is available, mr. mykhailo, i welcome you on the air , and the first thing is about this document leak, which was written about by the american newspaper new york times, the real documents are falsified is this a special operation of russia, but in general, the appearance of such information as it can affect the preparation of the ukrainian counteroffensive is absolutely certain that it will not

affect the preparation of the counteroffensive in any way, because in in those materials that the american edition cites, there is more about what brigades are being formed, somehow weapons are needed for the first of march we have today already the beginning of april and for a month of full-time work these data , if even they are real, they are out of date by a month, and in the conditions of the current war this is very, very much, but in general, this is an understanding of the countries, about what weapons are coming, what weapons are needed, that is, this information can still harm the understanding of russian - let's have fun later with a massive missile attack there where they apply them, they have an understanding of that, some forces because they have a very

, well, quite powerful intelligence and therefore, well, i don’t know how this can negatively affect the future uh offensive. and if they support ukraine, will the american partners become more careful in the provision of weapons, for example. well, i understand that you have such information. if it was, then it was from american sources. that is, it is not from the ukrainian general staff, not from some other ukrainian structure, namely from the west , and i think that they will figure it out very quickly, because all these documents. they have a certain number and by a certain marker it is possible to understand where they were leaked to the media, but if we are talking about the ukrainian counteroffensive, that is, what is the most important thing for success, what is the key factor in your opinion, and well, first of all, it is artillery

, it is the presence a sufficient amount of ammunition for heimers for artillery guns and the possibility of armored vehicles, this is not only tanks, but this bmp is armored personnel carriers and 4x4 armored personnel carriers. and here is the tank fist that the ukrainian authorities talked about, this tank a fist is formed, and judging by the information that is freely available, so today a sufficient number has already been formed for a breakthrough , well, at least in one part of the front, in one part of the front, conditional or something specific , if you can talk about it, uh, enough is enough now conditional on in this front there are only a few areas

where it is possible to use from geographical e-e on in geographical conditions use tanks i mean steppe i mean the absence of water pies obstacles to aircraft here is the spokesman of the air force yuriy ignat he says in ukraine needs to gain superiority in the air. for a successful counteroffensive, and for this, accordingly, modern fighter jets are needed in 16 of them. western countries of ukraine do not allow it to be possible to attack without such aircraft . the kherson operation, where we did not have an advantage in the air. and now, it is possible that this advantage will even be because the western allies gave us a sufficiently large number of mig-29 aircraft, these are

universal machines that can change the superiority in the air to change the very state of events in the air, you mention the kharkiv counteroffensive, but the russians also learned from the previous successes of the ukrainian army, that is, they will already know what the ukrainian army is capable of, what the ukrainian forces can do, anu is watching, and military art is it and it is an art. that is, it is an element of creativity, and i think that the future offensive will not repeat the scenario of the kharkiv, kherson, or any other operation, and i think that for the russians it will also be unexpected as it was

unexpected in september of the 22nd year. well, the offensive is also the cooperation of different units. that is, it is simultaneous artillery attacks, which you said is important. the infantry attack of armored vehicles. this is what kind of training the ukrainian military needs in order to act together. preparation in such a fairly minimal time. they are interestingly engaged and everything is transfer of armored vehicles, transfer of some other equipment. and the equipment was within the framework of the plan that was outlined. well, i think that at least at the end of the 22nd year and all these deliveries which for uh, not the military. we think that they are going very slowly, but they are going according to the schedule, and also, uh, the important part is demining , so western military analysts noted that the ukrainian offensive, at least at the initial stage, may depend on the passage of these large mines fields mined

in the territory occupied by the russians, while the russian army has a large arsenal of anti-tank anti-personnel mines, and some are even specially designed to make demining more difficult. these are trap mines. this is how the ukrainian military can deal with in the named territories, what equipment is needed in what quantity. and for the latter, a very large amount of engineering equipment was transferred to the armed forces of ukraine, and from the latter, we saw american-made stryker armored personnel carriers with anti-mine trawls, and we also saw engineering vehicles for making a passage precisely in minefields, and this the tactics were practiced on the training grounds of germany , poland and, well, some other countries . a huge emphasis was placed on this, and i think that

it is a preparation, despite the fact that it was going at such lightning fast pace, but it is enough to, well, at least break through these mini fields, and if there is a window of opportunity, such a temporary window of opportunity. for a successful counteroffensive, they used to say spring or until the autumn mud. is this a window of opportunity for the success of the ukrainian military, and a window it was always plowed tomorrow it will be the military military talent of the chief of the general staff and the commander and all of their staff work and a lot depends on the weather on the weather what

kind of weather, that is, what is the best weather for the weather will be warm so that the field roads will be sufficiently dry so that it will be possible to organize the provision of those troops who will go to break through the defense and it is interesting today the german content is quoted by the us secretary of state anthony blinking that the ukrainian counteroffensive will probably begin in the coming weeks here what do you think the next few weeks are likely to be? and if you look at the weather forecast, i would say that it is 10-15 days, and i think that this will be enough for certain directions the field roads have dried up. well, the readiness of the armed forces is again to some extent, they are already ready to reveal military secrets, and

in a certain way, they are already in the places of deployment . to the question and according to blinkin's word, this decision should be made by president zelenskyi. and in your opinion, ukraine can return crimea by military means. border outside the occupied crimea, but it can happen that the front of the aggressor can collapse and then, well, simply on the shoulders of the enemy to enter crimea, well, it is possible, but i do not think that such plans are for the liberation of crimea, our generals are making, they understand the capabilities of the ukrainian army and that is why they are making plans and which are more realistic

, and together with the preparation for the counteroffensive, it is equally important to understand what is happening at the front now, please stay in touch with us, mr. mykhailo, as of the beginning of april the russian army is advancing near the three cities of the donetsk region. it is here near the bahmut of avdiyivka maryinka that the situation for the ukrainian army is the most difficult. not so long ago, bakhmud was a lively city of thought for 70,000 people, now there are ruins. this is what the bloodiest battle of this war left behind. galina managed to escape from bakhmud

, she moved to the dnipro, where she spends all her free time now he sews bulletproof vests for ukrainian soldiers on social networks, he keeps in touch with those who are still there in bakhmut, he says that there is no electricity in the city, there is not enough food and water. well , we also have a water-poor territory and problems with water . in general, there was not much water, and now when all the networks are destroyed, that is, there are no water dispensers, and people find water in streams , er, fountains, according to her, the locals are hiding not only from bombs, they also live in fear that they will be kidnapped by the russians, recently there are more and more reports that people have disappeared did they go out to get water or do they come from nearby? civilians are being actively transported to its ravine because the city is also under attack by the russian military . this woman says that she has to flee for the third time

, but because bakhmut is almost surrounded , it is difficult and dangerous to evacuate people from there . lieutenant oleksandr kravtsov says that despite extreme danger and great destruction some civilians still refuse to go some of them want to leave the city but some still live there and it is hard to imagine after all it can be a personal decision of everyone but how soldier i want there to be a law and with which policemen and military people will have the authority to evacuate everyone not just at their will but already with the help of the authorities you me considering the situation in bakhmut we initially could not verify all the videos used in this story some of them sent exclusively for bbc new zight so we contacted the bbc team of specialists

who verified all the videos were found to be authentic by the administration of bakhmut and declared that russia now fully controls the city. ukraine denies it. so whose side is the truth, there is no doubt that a group of bachner militants is very slowly advancing towards the city and is also trying to surround the city, but despite this progress they are suffering huge losses , the fact is that the ukrainians are all still control at least a third of the city and what is important is that they are not isolated in other words they can still replenish supplies there is a lot of talk about an imminent ukrainian counteroffensive but can russia will respond to its own attack in military terms, it must be taken into account that this can happen. but i think that any military analyst would tell you that at the moment russia has already fired its own shots, it has gone on the offensive and

, as you know, it is healing its wounds, so to speak russia is not just gathering more soldiers, for this another mobilization is needed, but it would be bad for russia itself, most military analysts agree that bakhmut in itself has no eternal value, but many thousands of people have already died, so are these death and destruction is worth it alexander believes that the struggle should continue in memory of a fallen friend before his death he said do n't forget me he was a young soldier he was 24 many young soldiers want their country to remember them and i think they will be watching from heaven and they will hope that we will build a new country, but the war, which some believe cannot be won by either side , this impasse continues. perhaps russia will hold out better, considering that it has more resources

, people and weapons, the west is very nervous that in fact he is simply continuing a war that ukraine will never actually win. so how to bring this war to an end when both sides are not satisfied with the cessation of hostilities, but at the same time there will be increasing pressure from the international community that says we cannot continue to support this war. we support you during the spring offensive but at the end of this fighting season as soon as winter sets in again we will have to look hard at what prospects both sides have and no doubt that will be the time when diplomacy will probably go ahead president zelenskyi has long said that there will be no peace until the russian troops leave all corners of ukraine, but will he change his mind if the spring offensive fails and i will remind you of the military expert mykhailo zhirokhovets

, a detached western view of the hippie of hostilities in to ukraine, do you think that russia has exhausted its resources for the offensive , it is absolutely certain that no, and pvk wagner, it was a temporary replacement of the personnel army while those who were mobilized were undergoing training at various training grounds in russia, in belarus, on the occupied territories of ukraine and right now well, i think that at these prices in these months, russia has a certain amount of reserves that it can use, but how to use it. and this is still unclear, that is , or they will wait for the offensive of the ukrainian offensive and then they will go to the counteroffensive or they will try to strike

earlier than the ukrainian offensive , this is the biggest problem now and the biggest mystery that is if this is the biggest problem why and because it will depend on it course hostilities, that is, if the russians will keep in mind where the counteroffensive will be and where it is planned, then they will be able to make their own specific military issues to close so that this offensive is not so destructive for them that is why these publications and the constant mention of where the offensive may be are analyzed and certain plans are formed on the basis of this. well, if we talk about russian resources, their forces and the institute for the study of war, this is an american

analytical center, he writes that russia is planning to create assault companies, and this is information with reference to an anonymous user on twitter , whom the institute for the study of war calls a source. and they also say that the russians are planning to form such companies from reservists, this is a potential threat to the ukrainian defense as well, and these companies have no military significance because it takes quite a long time to prepare, and as far as i know the information there , the preparation is 10-15 days during this time, it is impossible to prepare and er, to make a unit, not eh individual preparation of each soldier, but a unit that would act on the front line as a certain military machine. well, we heard a western analyst who wrote in this story, and he thinks that this ukrainian offensive will be decisive for the west whether to

support ukraine in the future. if not, do you agree with this? about the ending of support i think that it is not a question of how much to support, i.e., to do more at the rate and raise this rate, that is , to give planes, to give missiles, er, with a range of 300 km or more on this er- well if it is not stopped or if it happens that there is military aid at the same level, this is it, well, western politicians are already asking their voters a-a where do so many weapons go and how effective are they in this war ? support ukraine as much as it takes when i spoke in

poland, if we talk about bakhmut , british intelligence writes that the russians are fighting more actively, you already mentioned the wagnerites earlier, too, the analytical center, the institute the study of war wrote that the wagnerites were joined there from the russian side by regular soldiers, but you follow what is happening at the front every day, what is the situation in bakhmut now, and the situation there is already under control, but it is controlled by the ukrainian command, that is, there are no documents of flank strikes to close the ring er , it does not allow our command, but street fighting - it is very difficult, and there the russians use the only trump that they have, which is a large number of personnel, that is, during street battles

it doesn't matter how much artillery you have, how much good armored vehicles you have, whether western or soviet-style, there is a very important amount. and very important is the training of each individual soldier and unit in general. is there a threat of encirclement of the ukrainian military in bakhmut, as of today, a week ago 10 ago, i would have said that there is , but now there is no such threat , that is, there is practically no attack from the north and from the south, they are practically not successful for the russians, so what has changed in this week, and what has changed first of all there were reinforcements, and fresh ukrainian units came to bahmut, and i understand that the tactics have changed, that is , the tactics have changed, which is not working now, because it is for

every house and for everyone there is some er object that is located in self-in the very bakhmut, that is, the ukrainian troops are already retreating when they see the enemy's forces, what are they, what are their more, they are retreating and they are occupying more and more such positions that allow further defense, what weapons does russia use ? i ask because information appeared the other day again, the american analytical center, the institute for the study of war, wrote that the russians brought thermobaric artillery systems to bakhmut, which are called sunbakes , what kind of weapons are they used there ? -e championship tsiferbaboric weapons they just stand at the very beginning of a large-scale invasion we saw their use

even during the a-a mariupol e-e siege of mariupol we saw them during the battles of all the city battles that were a-a recently but of course, it's just these sanctions. they started to transfer it to other units , for example, they started to transfer them to the paratroopers. that is, there were simply more of them, but it's not a new weapon. unfortunately, it's very effective in street fights. how can it be countered? well, it's impossible. that it acts at short distances and you need to very quickly direct artillery or direct aviation, which we do not have, but we have unmanned shock attack devices

, that is, constant er-er constant monitoring and er-er constant strikes on places where these might be installations p. mykhailo and e. we still have a minute to talk about other hot spots on the front. here is the situation in avdiyivka, what is the situation in the avdiyivka marines? the situation is very difficult. i believe that the situation there is even worse for a-a for ukrainian troops than under bakhmut before that there are very big offensives now, ah, maryinka is holding on, and ugledar is holding on, and there, uh, there won't be such a massive offensive in the near future, uh, and the positions of the ukrainian troops there , they are quite powerful, mykhailo. thank you, mykhailo zhirokhov was with us on the air. spoke in particular, about the possibilities of the ukrainian counteroffensive, where are these possibilities, although the secretary of the national security and defense

council, oleksiy danilov, said that only three or five people know what the ukrainian counteroffensive will be, this is highly classified information , we were talking about what the possibilities are for this is why we publish our news release , you can read more news on our website bbc.ua, also subscribe to our pages in social networks, and next time watch our broadcast on monday at 9:00

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