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they can see me, i'm not. please show us the camera of one mykola so that it seems that he is sitting alone, oh great, now all this is becoming reality, finally no one is interfering. thank god, mykola is fortunately not alone on this broadcast because we will talk about serious things on 1+1 so yes, serious things are about what is happening with military actions, about why some fake plan of the special forces counteroffensive was leaked in the networks, oleksandr musienko , director of the center for military legal research , mr. oleksandr, and about legal issues we will talk about the military. we will definitely be in good health, mr. oleksandr. so, now there is a huge discussion about this so-called offensive plan, which is very strange, because they give the impression that it was made from some different documents were created, uh, i'm not talking about it anymore, but you know the proportionality of the loss figures . it seems that one country is not at war with another, but with some third party, well, it's probably all the same in the headquarters of the fsb or the game. let oleksandr
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tell us where. this beautiful plan was created, about which everyone is speculating, but no one knows anything, so you know there are three dimensions to this story, firstly, if we immediately talk about the game of the fsb, then i have to say that they should be visible, that is, i am almost sure that they tipped putin off this special operation was successful and they said that look at how we get information and we know all the plans. now with the enemies we know for sure what they will do, we will definitely counter and everything the enemy will be defeated and blocked , forget about the counterattack, this is the first thing they needed it for, well internal the second story is the external dimension, which is the data taken from open sources , mostly all of them are known, absolutely, that is what the discovery did, that the ukrainian troops are training on the training grounds of nato countries - no, and that nato gives us weapons
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, countries, too, no. help is that news and we are talking about it i don't know in all the studios where possible this is not news either but some plans by the way, let me say about the fact that there will be a mandatory single plan of attack and so on there in essence and there are none hints about preparation and so on. that is, it was all done. it was all wrapped up in this way. what do you see plus the situation information on march 1? i have a question. why did it become known from march 1 only now? and what happened to the equipment in more than a month, the same equipment could become more and this is all, i think it pursues in addition to the goal to serve two goals, the first is to try to drive a wedge in trust between ukraine and its partners , that is, now the task is to start writing in the media that if this is true, then from which side krit and who could drain information from the american side from the ukrainian side or from where at all, or maybe someone else there
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, it is unknown who was involved in this, the first, the second, this is to sow certain uncertainty, you know, forgive me for the tautology about what such a thing can be. a counteroffensive will not happen because the partners are late with the help of weapons, you see it arrives at an untimely time, the second and third throw in this fake about losses that do not correspond to the laws of war at all, because it turns out that the attacking side suffered three times less losses than the defending side, it should always be the other way around, this is a classic and here i am for you i want to say they burned down because i want to remind you remember in september after the announcement of partial mobilization in russia shoigu, the minister of defense gave an interview and he gave data on the expenditures he gave the data spent about thousands there they downplayed well it is clear but he said that the number of dead is more than the number of wounded. how can this be, if it again
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does not comply with the laws of war, the losses are always one to three , that is, the number of wounded will always be higher . and that's where i think they left this trace, this trail that coincides with what he said, there is absolutely no violation of the laws of war, he says things like that, and here , as a matter of fact, this is my opinion from what was collected from what they published and present it as some kind of sensation and almost the biggest the success of russian intelligence, oleksandr, but look. well, the first thing is that i think you can refute me. i think that it is not the fsb. i said about the fsb because this is the main investigation of the administration, because what i understand is that they are what they lost their reputation before by putin after the first days of the war, when the fsb was preparing everything and told putin , apparently, everything is ready, we must go, we are waiting there, everything will be
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fine. sewn then i think that western intelligence and western headquarters, i am not talking about the ukrainian ones, so that they also understand that it was as if merged by whom it was as if from the mold and why it was as if from the mold but in fact it is all a spice, some other special operation of the russian main intelligence department of the general staff and and and whose right or not yes, but you still understand the information noise, it will still be preserved, well, no matter what, they wrote for the new york times. we cannot ignore it and say that no one noticed it, it is obvious that now i think in in any case, some investigations will be conducted. well, because things are serious, in order to really rule out any leaks for 100%, well , to confirm this already, er, absolutely factually. i think that these investigations will be
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conducted and further, as it seems to me. well, this situation is just they will forget about her and everything and this and this everything, it will simply be forgotten and no one will pay attention to it, moreover, there will be many other reasons and events that we will discuss and when we provide assistance to partners and many other things, you see what what what else really? the thing is, in principle , right here, er, there is still a moment in all of this at the behest of the russians, these curators of their special services, that they want to establish, they want to sow distrust in the support of the west and that the west is delaying aid to ukraine, that the west is ready to go to some kind of agreements and in the end this counteroffensive is a fake and so on , it's pretty clear that the way they do it, it's obvious that it's white with coins, but they're trying anyway they're trying
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to somehow cover it up and sell it looking for someone naive, who will believe it in the end. let's say that someone so naive will be found somewhere in the world and will absolutely believe it there, but i don't think that it affects the general state of affairs , global, which is what it disrupts the countermeasures, i think it will happen the second time does it disrupt the provision of assistance by our partners, even if it is late, which we all talk about, no, that is , uh, in the end, what can this globally affect in this case? will determine the agenda in the near future mr. oleksandr you already said about the offensive, somehow i don't always want to talk about the contour offensive, for some reason you always want to say that well, there will be just an offensive, but it doesn't matter, it's already such phraseology, but
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in fact, very optimistic, many experts are very optimistic about this offensive they speak ukrainian to what extent is it justified from your point of view, how much is there really a reason to consider the possibility of success because war is war and there any little thing can turn into far from not into a trifle on the other hand, the ukrainian headquarters already studied so much not only what is happening in the field, but three russians and the number of russian troops and the number of russian weapons and the amount of medicine and food and water and gasoline of the russians that these experts say that the probability is high and these experts are starting something from american generals through european generals to ukrainian generals and even people who seem to be watching from the ledge from russia , people also say that there is something to fear there there is
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there is there is what to fear from the offensive of the ukrainians well, i will say as follows, so that the first thing is that the only warning is that what i constantly think about is that it can cause in me some kind of skepticism or pessimism , but simply well, certain experiences are that ukraine received the weapons that we need in full on time, so i think that will be the case, and in the end it will still arrive, well , at least we already see that there will be no planes. there is reason to believe that jsd, we are already using the same ones by striking at melitopol and mariupol and pojankoy, and what we see in the end, no matter what, that is, the opportunities are also increasing , and plus, we all see the assessments, and the intelligence experts say that
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the russian offensive is still running out of power . the media openly says that they are concerned about it. it is clear that they are concerned about it, and if they are concerned about it, then i don't think that they are deliberately giving out disinformation about the fact that let's go , counterattack, attack, we are waiting for you here and we will destroy you and everything so on. one more point regarding the study of the situation and in general. well, i think that the situation is definitely being studied. an equal option and a different scenario are predicted, and obviously, no matter what resource russia is using now, i was just thinking about what, look, we were told and
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our intelligence and others that somewhere there were more than 300,000 russian soldiers in february on the occupied territories of ukraine, 300,000 well, it was not a lot, it was a huge number, in fact , what about 10,300,000 , what happened to them? what, well, they achieved some tactical success, took a few kilometers there, destroyed soledar, advanced somewhere there, tried to surround bakhmut, but these are not the successes that can be achieved. so , obviously, they got into a situation when there is a human resource, there is less equipment, they can afford less and no matter how much you throw thousands of people at you, haimers are coming at you, jaydan is flying at you, jailsdb is flying at you, excaliburs and artillery are flying at you, well, it all doesn't work, it broke at some stage because of that, i think that's all these attempts the truth is that we are false now bring the war into the positional phase. what is russia trying to do? obviously, they
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are entrenching themselves , they are e. trying to negotiate a price, that's why lavrov is advancing in turkey, and that's why they use narratives on other platforms, and from this i draw conclusions because, well, there is more information that the general staff knows. obviously, i don't have such confidential data, but from many from these aspects, i conclude that if they are worried so much, it means that they have something to worry about, and that means that these 300-400 thousand cannot be underestimated, but as it turned out, it is not as scary as it could be, mr. oleksandr, one more question from another point of view on the part of our lithuanian friends, e.e., there will be a nato summit in vilnius, lithuania, and there will be a lot of controversies here, which means that there is no longer a need for a military alliance, which means that everyone is nervous, which means that
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there will be no accession to nato if there is no military alliance, then it turned out that this is accelerating the situation, what is this we cut out an action plan regarding membership and if we jump over this plan then it appears again that the united states of germany and hungary are against the invitation of ukraine to nato for exactly those vilnius even against the road map offered by another country that's how it is again what should be the road map , what should be the invitation, is it good or bad? well, it’s just me and everyone, if the norms, all the road maps for joining nato were broken because of sweden, finland, and now regarding ukraine, but what can be the option of an invitation or talks about an invitation or or or what can to be uh, for ukraine's benefit , or should ukrainians simply forget about nato? i think that
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what the secretary general of nato from toltenberg proposes is definitely for ukraine's benefit. he also said about 500 million annual aid reinforced by of the alliance for the future and support, but regarding this i think there is a consensus among all the member countries of the alliance, but regarding the accession of ukraine, i think there is none, because listen , let's admit it frankly and let's say that everyone is waiting for how the war will end and the war must end we of course, we believe and want it to end victoriously for ukraine, and in the end, i think the majority of nato countries and their leaders also believed in ukraine, otherwise why provide armored vehicles with so much artillery for specific offensive actions actions, that is, it is obvious that it is, but now everyone will see how this battle will end, how it will end, and then decisions will be made about ukraine's membership in
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nato, but it seems to me that, no matter what, despite what is now being heard from representatives of individual there ah, from nato about the fact that now is not the time for this year, etc. anyway, somehow this is just physics, you know, we are still getting closer to knowing, well, at least there is a technical reason, but now nato is approaching, they are bringing their repair service bases to poland to romania, it is obvious that with such an accumulation of nato-standard equipment in ukraine, it is inevitable that at some point these bases will begin to appear , i mean repair and technical non-military ones here in ukraine, and this will also be cooperation and quite a lot of such points of contact and intelligence data and in many a-a spheres where we have already come close to that, i think that somehow, despite the political statement of individual leaders or politicians, it is still inevitably somehow moving towards the fact that ukraine should be
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in nato in the future, but i have doubts that there will be a consensus that this can happen while the hot phase of a full-scale war and russian aggression continues. well, well. if we talk about the real level, it is a security penalty. that is why, in principle, it can be achieved even if you are not a member of the stanate . well, we have seen. as it was with finland, sweden, they were not members of nato, but they already had certain security guarantees about ukraine, everyone is talking about one formula that seems dangerous to me , they say that ukraine will become a member of nato as soon as the hostilities end. well, maybe we are here in kyiv do we hear about it in lviv, we say, well, it’s logical, but it’s the mother-in-law of moscow, well, put yourself in the place of vladimir putin, it’s a simple political formula, if ukraine becomes a member of nato after the end of hostilities, then in order for it not to become a member of the council, it is necessary not to end hostilities actions analogously or analogously, isn't it a sloppy logic, but putin has already lost ukraine in nato and i'll explain why
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. because let's remember what you started , remember the ultimatum to the united states and deliver the russian they said let nato they are taking away monats from the countries of central europe that were already full members of nato, how did it end, it ended with the fact that sweden and finland, well, finland already, i think that sweden , too, these issues will be resolved on nato membership and ukraine in the end, too, because if it does not happen, it will epic file for the west, this will mean that they accepted the ultimatum and they lost this war, because they do not say that nato is indirectly involved in this war, because when the ultimatum is announced, it is automatically announced when and where a war or an ultimatum precedes a war, this has happened many times in world history. therefore, if the united states and the west lose, they lose ukraine and lose the battle for ukraine and its euro-atlantic future, they
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lose the west as a whole, because then putin or someone there who will replace him and others autocrats will understand that weakness was shown here, and i think that it is not for nothing that there is president biden, the united states . they are trying to build this coalition now of support for ukraine, even ukraine, which is not a member of nato, but which receives that level aid well, with the possible exception of direct military aid involving the involvement of troops, we do not have any, and except for volunteers , which is why i think that after all, my position is such that there is no reverse process here, we just need to reach this victory and that’s it, then there are also options to accept again after all, russia's ultimatum means that this war continues and can spread at any moment, or finally make this willful decision about ukraine, i
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understood correctly. what do you think that the plan it may be that the victory of ukraine in the war with russia will lead to the beginning of the process of joining nato. that is, it depends on the ukrainian army, a draw or defeat does not give anything , that is , it is necessary to defeat russia, then nato opens the door informally and in fact. and what? well, what is winning? i think that from the point of view, let's look at it from the point of view of the alliance, because now, after all , we have to say from theirs, they voiced to improve their position. thus, if you often hear to free up as much territory as possible and to have a strong position in the future negotiations, approximately such wording, our wording is also known, it is the de-occupation and exit to the borders of 1991, internationally recognized, this is at least
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what has been voiced and declared. therefore , everything will move towards this goal. at least i predict that this is the battle that is being planned which they are talking about. it can be one of the decisive ones on this path. after which it is very s- here is another moment, i think that in addition to ukraine joining nato in the institution, there is also another goal, which is also explained by this change of the political regime in russia. and for this, in particular, the defeat of russian troops in ukraine must be brought about, as many western analysts and politicians think, and this is also an element that can lead to the fact that when there is a window of opportunity, it may not last for six months, a year may be less, but for during this period, ukraine should be accepted into nato so that there would not be such a thing between the kingdom if it perhaps you consider this hope realistic mr. oleksandr i think so
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because it seems to me that if putin there i'm sorry, you fools, if they didn't cement the situation there, they didn't say that they have bohdan and everything is calm and there are no internal reasons for worries. i personally don't believe it. i think that there will be such reasons if conditions are set for russia about what needs to be done first, second, third and then maybe in some foreseeable future the sanctions will be canceled and some relations will be restored, i have no doubt that there will be people who will be ready to take advantage of this to make them feel better and to prevent the final collapse of alexander please tell me one more question, maybe one last question, let’s look at it. i’m looking at the clock. and this is the defeat of russia that you are talking about, which is misleading for someone, for someone . maybe no, this will lead to a change in the situation
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around ukraine as well. the defeat of russia, georgia , moldova, belarus, that is, it is a whole post-soviet land that has not been understood for a very long time - it is not clear where they are going or back into the arms of moscow. or, after all, to the west into the arms of brussels, washington, and so on, as far as here there may be an impact if ukraine really wins, i think that the impact will be direct because many people are now watching what is happening. that is, we must understand that now if we look, for example, at the tank on yerevan over tbilisi, so we see that on the one hand there is absolutely a pro-russian vector and in a normal situation they have everything from russia on the other side. there are many people there and i even communicate as you say
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. just see well, we have ours let's do the work and you somehow, but i see certain sprouts that the situation may change. if we take belarus , no matter what, but they did not manage to carry out their successful actions that led to the dismantling of the lukashenko regime, but this does not mean that the potential is 100 % is evening at all, doesn't that mean that everything is so bad in georgia , even despite this prime minister, even armenia , which already wants to bring education together, is also a certain achievement, this is also, after all , being in the odkb well, it had to be gained courage, that is, even now we see the position of kazakhstan, which, it would seem, is also trying not to put forward what is called its calmer, but also its reaction is not exactly pro-russian. i think that many people are watching and finally it is possible that people and these nations will understand that if they helped something, somewhere under they just watched. i understand
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that it is difficult for someone in armenia to understand many aspects due to the geographical location , but i can say affirmatively to your questions that this will give rise to many of these processes thank you oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military and legal studies . unfortunately, they didn't say anything about the legal side, but they talked about the military, and now we're done with finland, we're going to the caucasus. changes, mostly, a number of people believe that the change of the prime minister will definitely take place against the background of the fact that now russia's border with nato has increased more than twice, and on lena lauren, a finnish journalist and writer, we are switching to the russian language, they tell me that
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you can still speak russian ah but you already have to train to speak translate so speak at the same time and translate into ukrainian at the same time congratulations good day good day to you on the acceptance of your country into the north atlantic union we envy you for the semester i don't know exactly what it's like in italy but i envy you for sure i'm envious, i believe that your country has endured so much before becoming a member of nato and so many of your allies died in the war with the soviet union that this is such a conditional envy. it's not just that. agree, but i want to ask, i want to ask how, in your opinion, has the mood of finnish society itself changed during this time, and neutrality was indeed always an arbitrary stone, not a political one, i would say national consciousness, contemporary with the second world war, the cold war, then it was called neutrality, and then later
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in the early 1990s, they said that it was already neutral , it’s just that we don’t go to the union in which, and then already then, the conversation about becoming a member of nato was finally started. films, and before russia attacked ukraine, most of the films believed that why do we need nato and everything is so good, and our politics is as good as it is now, and they taught us to enter a question about all god's yushchenko. i would say that one day the post office changed the point of view. well, in general, how would you like the general point of view of the films, and this indicates that it is not included in the list for finland. i
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do not know the identity for this. what is more? it was a problematic choice than identity because the films are very as you said, the big one is played from russia, of course km what needs to be adapted and while the former policy worked for my country, and then when they came out, that it works very well, that we fall, then if we changed and i want to say that it changed all the words after the person pathos the song the person i wouldn't have said that without the people of fim сейчас сейчас klychko to wash of course well, everything would be betrothed что тепер безопасности что даты что что было недвижимость simply anna lena look, we are watching from kiev, from lviv, from ukraine, and we know that there are baltic countries, there is poland, they are such big friends
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of ukraine, they remember what russia is, and there are holland, denmark, france, belgium, but less friends of ukraine, because they are from this country a long time ago. i don't know there, 300 years ago, they felt something about russia, peter pepetra, the first, someone else there, what kind of country will finland be - it will be a country like the baltics , that is, a country that you know , russia was going through a war with russia. problems and now it will be the country that speaks first well, it may not be first, but second , we want to help, we want to do something, we understand the danger of russia, or it will be so much closer to holland, well, let's see, let's wait, let's know, when there was a referendum in the netherlands on whether ukraine should

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