[000:00:00;00] that is, and that is why they are trying in every way to counteract the future offensive, to discredit us in the eyes of our western partners, to talk about the fact that they supposedly know something about this offensive, about its directions, about its plans of our military command. of the successful counteroffensive stage last year , no one was informed about the place, the time, or the operational plans and tactical plans , it gave those results that led to the liberation of very large territories that were occupied at the beginning of the 22nd year ago, i think that this is, you know, such a complex problem that our enemies are trying to use in order to, on the one hand , calm down their society, even as if they are in full control of the situation and there will be no surprises, on the other hand, to discriminate against the future offensive and thus

drive such a certain wedge with you our western partners since the latest information about the wiretapping of the top management by the development of western countries is also aimed at this i want to say that to date , there is complete trust between our military, our military-political leadership and our partners. there are no secrets, but a very limited circle of people who are directly involved in this on the part of the ukrainian authorities know exactly about such strategic plans as the upcoming counteroffensive, this information is not such which may be available to hundreds or 1,000 citizens, as we now see it, well, in confirmation of your words, the report of beling kat , let us remind you that these documents or parts of these documents were merged into the network on specific service long before they were made public by the new york times, then they were allegedly noticed. well, it went down the tubes. as they say, mr. fedore

, it is nevertheless important to understand what the reaction should be in a competent u.s. ministry of justice eh still opens cases and will investigate the story with a possible leak of information, that is, there are reasons to believe that this is a real leak and not an ipso on the part of the russian side your short comment from this reason or whether this story will change a little uh uh a high-profile case that is covered by the mass media always finds a continuation in the form of specific investigations , whether they will be confirmed or not , we will see if these data will be confirmed a little

later for ukraine. i think that this situation even if we conditionally assume that there is some fate of the truth, they are there, and the fact that it became known to a very wide public is, in any case, positive because we will definitely act in a way that no one expects us to do, as i already said it happened more than once. yes, mr. fedoren, you formulated your answer extremely well. i am glad. well, i would like to ask you about one more case. the case is actually a difficult case. it is a toxic case, but i would like it to receive, i don’t know , additional attention. perhaps some tsc will already be created, in particular, it is about things would be like that say naumov kulinich well, in general, the environment of the derkach and not only them, that is, it is difficult to say about how big this mass of people is, but we would like to ask you, maybe there is some kind of information that can be voiced, well, look, in any case, what is the situation that you announced that she is in

the orbit of pre-trial investigations conducted by relevant bodies of pre-trial investigation, this is a secret of pre-trial investigation, the situation with potential and probable, let's say , traitors in the security forces of the security service of ukraine, she is under constant control committee and national security and defense intelligence, we periodically receive information about it from the leaders of the security service and the state bureau of investigation, when the picture will be completely clear for many deputies in the members of our committee, there is also a lot that is unclear in the events of, say, february march last year, this situation we will also definitely carefully study and then we will share with you all the information we received, oh mr. fedor, won’t you share all the information but it is possible and correct in any case as far as i am sorry how large-scale were all the networks of russian intelligence agencies, this is not just about derkach and maybe there were

some additional ones, because the fsb is one story, the main directorate of the russian general staff is another, and maybe there were some additional ones, well, it is a great pity if you remember everything the history of ukraine starting somewhere from 2010 to 2014. after that, we see that openly russian agents were appointed to very key positions in the security and defense sector, they did everything to destroy our defense capability to destroy our armed forces of the special services, but well, after the start of the large-scale invasion, the security services of ukraine are very systematically cleaning up such agents of influence of the russian moles. i think that in the near future we will already well, first of all, we already have a very large percentage of the fact that it has been cleaned, but the work continues and of course there are very deep conspiracies and exclude them in various defense security sectors in the presence of we cannot

, but we are working on it investigation, there is a lot of information that, unfortunately, cannot really be made public, but this is a very important issue and they are also, well, carefully, well, we are carefully monitoring, mr. fedor, and finally, briefly , i would like you to hint. perhaps it will be possible to shake someone out of the deputy's suit, so to speak, where is this in particular, about the possible suspects involved in the whole network who are currently in the verkhovna rada. well, you know, i don't have such information, but i don't want to divulge information based on some guesses i heard because after all, i am a lawyer and i have worked in the legal field for a long time and as a student or in this regard, let's wait for some official or suspicions or at least the registration of criminal warrants of offenses. we will discuss this later . thank you mr. fedora fedir venislavsky people's deputy of ukraine member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security and defense and intelligence, the representative of the president

in the verkhovna rada of ukraine well , the epic surrounding the ukrainian of the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate and objects used by the church in our country , the believers of the uoc mp blocked the entrance to the alexander nevsky cathedral, which was voted by the religious community to be transferred to the orthodox church of ukraine . at mykhailo 's meeting of the mayor of kamianets-podilskyi, we congratulate you, mr. mykhailo, i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes well, let's get down to business right away to the cathedral named after the lord, forgive, the lord, alexander nevsky you understand, well, we hope that the community will mature and change its name, but for this, this story should first be finalized. what is happening under the cathedral, well, as of today, there are

representatives of the ukrainian communities who participated in the relevant meetings on saturday and who voted. for alexander the soviet to join the orthodox church of ukraine, fulfilling the will of the majority of the ukrainian people, who are now choosing their independence, and representatives of the moscow patriarchate are also present, who traditionally perform their prayer while standing in front of the church and thereby not giving the opportunity to the secretary and the audit commission to enter, which had the opportunity to describe the manats that are in the cathedral, that is, now there are no such active actions taking place near the cathedral, the most active actions took place on saturday and sunday, then there were the most voluminous gatherings, i want to remind you that on saturday , about 4,000 signatures were collected for the transition to the orthodox church of ukraine, the

cathedral took part in the voting and actually this decision was unanimously supported. and how aggressively are the representatives of the russian orthodox church in ukraine behaving? well, there have been such a few contradictions, fights, and indeed there are some representatives of such a sporty appearance . we have information that there was a connection to kamianets-podilskyi. several busses from the surrounding regions and regions are connected to the auction house, i can say that the situation is calm today . yesterday, the day before yesterday, it was controlled. are still owned or used by the uoc mp well, if we take the city into account, then there are 16 temples, and indeed there are quite a lot of transition processes in our community, but in rural

areas there were also different stories. i think that the catalyst for all these events developing in ukraine really became a series of events, er, a series of appeals received by local bodies of local self-government, including to central authorities, in principle, what was and was done in kamianets-podilskyi when on the initiative of the parliamentary factions by the way unanimously and unfortunately, this does not always happen like this, the petition for the adoption of the law on the prohibition-moscow patriarchate was voted on, a number of petitions for the termination of contracts of both state and communal property, as well as land plots in the same way in us in kam in jantsi-podilskyi , real decisions were voted on the termination of communal lease agreements and the cancellation of the right to permanent use of land plots, and

all this became, let's say, a catalyst the fact that the community is active about ukrainian communities, they go under the walls and make legal decisions. after all, it is very important for us that everything is in accordance with the legislative law, they make the appropriate decisions and , in accordance with those decisions, certain actions are taken to transfer the accounting of that property that exists and is being done in order for you to hear a prayer in ukrainian in our shrines. oh yes, and accordingly, i would like to ask the mayor what the situation is with the animals of the orthodox church of ukraine , the ukrainian church, and how many there are active. yes, we understand that the process of transition from one denomination to another requires active religious communities in the places of tithes, and so on . maturely, because let's say it like this , a separate front for obtaining ukrainian

statehood, we understand that our guys are fighting in the east and in the south, our states , protecting every piece of the sacred ukrainian land, are doing their job, they are doing it successfully but it is also very important that here in the rear in our ukrainian villages and cities, they also got rid of everything that actually led to such actions , e. we will win faster. please tell me, mr. mykhailo. well, if we follow the legal logic, then one way or another the representatives of the ukrainian orthodox church of the ukrainian orthodox church of ukraine will have to leave the objects sooner or later, if they do not do this voluntarily, how will

the story continue? of course, we still we hope that those people who are parishioners of this church, and these are ukrainians, in fact, they are ukrainians, but who, perhaps, have not yet fully realized, i do not know whether they do not have certain certain moments of the history of ukraine, or they believed a lot of other things that are quite untrue, we all - still we hope that they will be enlightened in their knowledge and these processes will be absolutely peaceful and painless and, as i said , the ukrainian prayer will be heard in our ukrainian shrines in another case of course that the community, which is quite active now , which is quite like this, and it shows this activity not only by writing various posts, it is really ready to pass and protect the interest of the state , we can see this in various cities in kyiv , khmelnytskyi, ternopil, chernivtsi, kam' to jantsi-podilskyi in lviv, of course, the community. i think that it will not postpone it to telekevych and she has the right to have her say. well, there is one more

instrument. it is of course long, but mine. it has the right to life. these are legal instruments. related to the filing of a lawsuit in court, according to the judge's winning of court proceedings, the opening of executive proceedings, and then all the legal procedures as required by law to carry out such actions, but we really hope that the ukrainians who, right now, during the russian-ukrainian war, become a single nation, they er, they will still understand it and it will be so that we are united and we must have one faith in us there must be a strong ukrainian local church, we agree with you, mr. mykhailo, and dear mr. i would like to ask you about consultations with enston, in particular the same uoc mp. yes, we understand that some priests would rather be ready

to join the ukrainian orthodox church of ukraine. oligarchs or bishops , so from the situations i understood the approximate mood among the priests in kamianets-podilskyi well, the same is true in the surrounding areas, for example, about the neighboring forces, how many people would be ready to move and how active is the orthodox church of ukraine in order to convert them to itself, and at the same time, will you have enough of your priests on the ground? well, that's why one of the appeals that was approved at the session of the city council was also an appeal to the bishop of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate in order to fulfill the demands of society, to sever absolutely all ties with the moscow church and to form a single local church, i know for sure that among

the parishioners, among the holy fathers of that church , there is such a mood. i think that everyone understands the inevitability of these processes and sooner or later it will happen, we know it, this is a fact, so the sooner it happens, the better it will be for us. of course, the question is that the glorified church of ukraine should also take an active position, which it does, in principle, and we see that now there are a lot of our priests who, er, conduct their services in different temples, and here the question is really very correctly asked that there should be much more of such priests, because sometimes one priest has five temples, and this is normal that it is not easy to get around, especially during these days of our orthodox holidays, that is why the process needs to be really speeded up, and this is already the task of the orthodox church

of ukraine . expresses his active civic position well, i think that the orthodox church of ukraine also understands these processes and everything that will depend on it will also be done. we will remind you that the story continues with a kind of confrontation around religious objects in this place in particular, and unfortunately , kamianets-podilskyi is not an exception in the territory of our country. well, we will return now to a conversation about our parliamentary affairs, in particular with people's deputy rostislav pavlenko, member of the verkhovna rada committee on education, science and innovation, former director of the rostislav national institute for strategic studies, congratulations, glory to ukraine

, glory, thank you for a productive day in the verkhovna rada voted on a lot of different necessary, useful and correct initiatives, but except for one , khrestina and i were actively reviewing the news about the activities of the verkhovna rada during the broadcast today. the finalization of the story with the transition, so to speak, of the temples to the jurisdiction of the psu, and accordingly , i wanted to read that the verkhovna rada voted on one or another bill that would allow the normalization of relations between the two states and the ukrainian orthodox church of the ukrainian orthodox church of ukraine to resolve the story, so to speak, where is the spiritual capital located, or in constantinople, in constantinople or in moscow eh well , today is a really productive day, today , at the insistence of petro poroshenko, european solidarity finally voted to return for the military

i paid uah 30,000 for those who are not directly in the household for those other rules and there uah 100,000 must be paid in addition, so now the question is to have it signed by the president, it was done, and regarding the religious situation, really well, our colleagues are asking questions about this on the conciliatory radio. we are always appealing to the leadership of the parliament so that this issue is put on the agenda , the issue of banning the moscow patriarchate is considered and accepted, but while there colleagues are dragging it out for some reason, there are already decisions that can be made that will help in this including in such cases and in kamianets-podilskyi european solidarity initiated the issue and our factions of local councils stand and we really hope that colleagues there will reject flights and this will be a position that will unite local councils regarding a very simple matter, it is, on the basis of the implementation of the laws, to pick up

the rights of lease or long-term use in the moscow church on the lands that were opened to them in the previous decade and churches that have historical significance, and this can be a decision of the local council if it is appropriate communal property and it can be an appeal to the authorities, then the cabinet of ministers to the ministry of culture if it is a national-level reserve and it corresponds to at least two laws that were adopted back in 18-19 years this is actually a law about renaming, what is it called there, a longer name, what is happening, the essence but if you are proven, the moscow patriarchate and this was also proven in the 19th year of bathing, recently in the 23rd year, the connection of the uoc mp with the russian orthodox church, so it is correct to call them russian the orthodox church in ukraine and the second about transitions about facilitating the community to define itself and know how it was in khmelnytskyi recently and now it is happening in kamianets-podilskyi to make

a decision so that the local authorities can re-register the charter, so for now the verkhovna rada dares, we can already wait for a decision on the ground using the example of kamianets-podilsky e-e use of e-e land, the city council took it from the uoc mp, nevertheless, the epic continues. in other words, this question in practice, as we see, is not completely resolved by the fact of presence representatives of the uoc mp in one or another temple, because they will remain there until they are washed out of there for sure or whatever. excuse me, please, is it possible to say that, but i am that way , dad, i am responsible for so long, the previous question is because here there are several constituents, earth times temples, two decisions of the community, three, and so on. i'm sorry, the officials have children according to the law. and there are many legal issues to do this, and that's why i don't know if they're already waiting for a full ban, that's why you correctly said in the summary that

it 's necessary already their classics say the final paperback so that everyone can put the dots on two already , although i claim that there are already enough legislative grounds in order to use the power to implement laws to ban the activities of the uoc mp in a specific area, that is, if at the level states, we can't do that. why don't you use the stencil of the rivne region here, eh, here is a moment. that this should still be a national-level issue, that's why colleagues are asking about this issue in the verkhovna rada of european solidarity. there was one separate region that cannot determine for yourself what this decision might be, it seems to be a political signal, but as soon as there is an appropriate law, all local officials will no longer have any refusals to do this, you know, there was not a very long refusal not to rename the moscow church at the end of last year, the constitutional court said that it is not only possible to do this, but also necessary. well, then it is necessary to do

it, and the same is true now , if the local council expresses its position that it does not want to have the moscow patriarchate on its territory then this should be another signal for the leadership of the parliament in order to finally solve this issue of the relevant constitution and laws and give the opportunity to work in the local and local central authorities dear mr. rostyslav well, they wanted to to ask about the dynamics of the normalization of relations with the kiev-pechersk lavra, a national reserve on the one hand, but actually with the shrine of the ukrainian people, and i say this without pathos without exaggeration. that is, it is one of the hearts that beat in the body of ukraine, and it is the symbol that connects our whole history to the heap and, accordingly, the kyiv-pechersk lavra and the pochaiv lavra are great shrines of the west, in particular, of the ukrainian greek catholic church, and i hope that there may be a certain dynamic now, in particular, it is simply a case of bags from

the ministry of culture with the economic subjects in the same pochaiv lavra and in general wanted to ask you about the situation in the kyiv-pechersk lavra. well, here such a question means in one way then regarding the resolution of the first, the state must act according to this same logic how did they start to act in relation to the kiev-pechersk lavra, because the tomos clearly defines that in the orthodox world there is a single economic church in ukraine, this is the orthodox church of ukraine , so if the state wants to hand over its shrine, which you very correctly say, until the church , then the answer to this in principle is clear but the first issue that needs to be resolved is the issue of depriving the moscow presence there, it could have been made by the ministry of culture's decision, but for one reason or another it does not do it, then a resolution registered in the verkhovna rada that also rewrites

the actual calls on the government to take its step and deprive the moscow presence and we are also waiting for the pochaiv lavra, when it will be put to the vote and supported in relation to the kyiv-pechersk lavra, here we just have to act in accordance with the law. we have seen such decisive statements. we have even seen terms that were presented, we see that some kind of legal process is moving well, but there are many other legal ways - this is to speed up the ball on the field of the executive power otto, we are waiting for the implementation of the permit, that is, mr. rostyslav, i would like to return for one of the main topics of today, 30,000 refunds of payments to our military personnel to the police to dsnsniks, in particular, a-a decision, well, i don’t know who can call it wrong, on the one hand, on the other hand, there are warnings about how to cover these financial needs. i would like to remind you that maintenance and needs in general

we finance our defense forces with what we produce ourselves, we earn, we generate as you wish. that is, we cannot use the money of our partners for these needs, which sometimes fall into our state budget to cover social and other things. to balance, well, look, it is an initiative and european solidarity proposed the draft law 9006. it seems to have a number, but its essence is to take money from road construction, which can wait, uh, and there you can definitely attract funds from partners, take funds from you know the senseless marathon. bring back the digital air with the press of your colleagues from the direct and fifth channels and the marathon will not need absolutely three professional patriotic channels that absolutely provide a position for the whistleblower to find information to his taste. politicians, and the funds required by all these channels should be directed to support

the military, as well as the prosecutor’s office, and others can somehow improve their qualifications later. and now, after all, direct the funds to those who are you yuriy and in this way, the client can collect 57 billion uah, which will definitely be enough for at least the first few months to cover the relevant expenses, and then it will also be clear how it is done. at the previous minutes of the previous meetings, we directed as much as 500 billion to support the military under very different articles and there, by changing priorities, it can also be ensured. you know, those who want are looking for a way, those who don't want are looking for a reason, that's all. today's vote to the nato member countries is specifically about accepting us into this powerful security community, after all, it is written in our constitution, but i wanted

to ask you not about the importance of the current address of the verkhovna rada, but about the fact that there is already some feedback, so to speak, in the euro-atlantic community , so to speak, during the vilnius summit, to go to a meeting with the address of the verkhovna rada briefly. well, here is the question of the tight work of all authorities, all politicians, and our civil society, and here it is necessary to give up some real things and the like and concentrate the efforts of the government there and the opposition , if we can now talk about such categories, everyone who can reach and who will be heard in order to come to what is formulated in our decision, that is, to in july, ukraine was invited to the 16th nato . thank you. rostyslav pavlenko was in touch with us . people's deputy of ukraine e

. to him for this extremely important analysis . and for the last hour, i completely lost my voice. you understand, so to speak, in this case , we are working on this lada silva will meet with his chinese colleague, this bell ringer for negotiations on trade between countries, as well as the war in ukraine unleashed by russia , the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of brazil and mauro ieira told journalists that the two leaders will talk about the war in ukraine. it is expected that the president of brazil will arrive in china literally tomorrow with the chinese leader, all dengpin, he will meet on friday, april 14, we let us remind you that the last statements of well yes silve regarding possible concessions by ukraine with its territories, which were absolutely adequately and acutely read by the ukrainian people and society, were not received in any way

and we will see if he will repeat them to the eyes of the seats , good news, although on the bitter soil of cyber ​​well the rioters, together with the law enforcement agencies of poland, detained something that resembles looters. maybe even worse. so, they were extorting money from the residents of the frontline regions, who were planning to leave the war zone, including from bakhmut and to the coal dealer, they mainly gave out their false promises to disabled people and parents of minors. so they took it, well, at least they revealed this . now our colleagues will structure it. we will say goodbye to you in zantin and then the verdict serhii rudenko glory to ukraine this is a program verdict my name is serhii rudenko have a good day and good health to all today is the tenth of april 411, the day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian