[000:00:00;00] an unwritten alliance among themselves, and it was perceived as a counterbalance to the armed forces in the event that the armed forces would be able to rush towards a mutiny, therefore, such a re-concentration of power in one hand will not bring anything good. is it necessary? will demoralize and completely exclude the armed forces from the political struggle, then they can really appoint a good man to them so that part of the officer corps will simply start resigning and that's all. even this. well, this disrespect, by and large, the fact that they did not mark putin's speech with applause, this is how it is usually done, it was not done before, and the fact that russian propagandists

are starting little by little well, i understand that those people who go to russian television as experts are also someone's people, you mr. volodymyr, you say that kovalchuk, that, er, there is someone else, that other, some figure. i understand that these are experts who come to the studio . they are also difficult people, not the same. this is just a creature of some conditional kovalchuk. these are too small people, if we are talking about nadejdin, then he is dressed like the last liberal who goes on the air, but he is really close to kiriyem. and so these propagandists are also starting to doubt the version of the events in ukraine, the war in ukraine, that is presented by the official in the mass media, they are starting to talk again about the comparison of the path of putin with mykola first . well, i don’t imagine such a thing happening there for six months, especially at the beginning of a big and small war. and plus a statement that because of the leaks of this secret data, we let's talk about them, or the pentagon, it turned out that there are greater losses in russia than in ukraine, and even in the studio this caused such a reaction from one of the experts, what

is it, what is there, or something like that, or what, what, what, what, i tell you i will explain what, what, as yanukovych says, you will come to me for two. then i will explain. that is, you already know this, some kind of change in rhetoric, or some kind of insight, and insight, which of course is regulated by someone, it simply does not happen in russia, insight is only on command as calm ivan once said stepanovych plyushch tells me that we have a calibania possible. only together with wavering party lines, the same is true there. ivan, i want to write down a question for you, here are other thoughts or other information in the propaganda show , and this episode with the fact that putin was not reacted to in any way also probably revealing, i would like to hear from you, please, a really revealing moment , which is really correct, and i expected it, returning to my thesis that where you showed, putin comes to his troops, he

communicates with them, travels to mariupol, yes, in crimea and here is putin who says we have a sanitary restriction, the last one accepts well, it is clear that these are completely three different putins yes yes putin there and putin there uh and why do they allow propagandists to go to what channels do you have , look, i don’t think so that they are all guests at the university of these kropivnytskyi channels, they are there , i don’t know, that one is there, that’s mikhal ivanovich here, nikolay stepanovicha yes, in that spirit, there is a certain gender of permitted people who can be elected and you know them there on a rental basis, those were recruited from they controlled uh, i don’t know there, the program was launched there, then the next time they changed it, and they go between broadcasts, and that’s why it is allowed to raise the level , to raise the tension, to launch people who have a different opinion, not quite there , cheers, patriots, yes, they say, patriots of course, there are nuances , and this allows them to raise the degree in the studio, when

the presenters can show themselves more there, and then say that you are not patriotic enough for them to do enough there. what are you? you tell me, that is, any kind of fight, quarrel in the studio, she adds views to them there, they start cutting these moments. that is, it is more . let the story be like this, that is, if it would be boring and we talked about how we beat everyone there in a fight, then of course no one watched it. by the way pay attention, a few months ago there was a message that russian military programs about the war there began to receive so many views, i.e. how much, and even from the charts, i.e., the top 100 russian programs are the most viewed of them, and there was only one program that was 60 minutes of scabies. that’s all, solovyov is not there, the rest of the programs are not there, that is, it is clear that people have stopped watching something like programs about war , that is, we need to do mobilization, and we need to fight there, and how we got together, and that’s it . maybe they allow

to recruit such people on the air in order to create such artificial hype . yes, it is possible to get there soon, there will be face beatings , there will be more views and people will come back to watch these programs again, that is, such pr is cheap to increase the number viewings, by the way, let's watch an excerpt from the film 17 matey's moments of spring is very well shown there. well, what is possible is not yet in the russian snakes in the russian government, but what will soon appear when what was not questioned and was not subjected to any criticism and it was taken for granted that putin, the great russia, will defeat everyone. we are good ukrainians, the nazis are there and many other things are starting to be questioned. sooner or later, it will happen in russia . let's see how it happened in

germany. moments of spring must live in a warm time, and you can compare our factory, the power of the factory and worries, we are who we are, we are each in himself, and he must think about everyone - this will be for you . watch movies картины всемее и банды you don't find it, professor moldyna, of course, so far, all of russia, well , most of russia, which looks with such eyes as in the thighs and can't understand, well, even the body - it's for sure well, he's a spy behind the film, but in principle, this is the part that begins to say obvious things, and here are obvious things, these are the things of that, this is the future counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine and actually the possibility of changes on the front line , eh, what russia writes, retreat, lose territories somewhere, flee somewhere, go to knock out, well,

in any in this case, serious changes are expected at the front, and this will also have an impact, because it will not be possible to hide it, the russians are frankly afraid of this, and when they are building their defense fortifications, and this is it, these conversations are taking place between the military, the phone is known, the expectation a counteroffensive, because it oppresses the russians very much, that is, the expectation of death is worse than death itself. and even more so, the expectation of new weapons of new trained ukrainian fighters affects it, but on the eve of the 14th, in fact, it was expected in the spring, at least that's how they talked about it, and there is a leak of secret secret materials the united states of america before this thank god, again thank god ukraine is not involved ukraine was leaked from the pentagon there the ministry of justice is very actively investigating how it happened the gaming platform, uh, how about it, through discard and discord, someone put it as an argument in the dispute about what

is not actually happening at the front, it is 500 pages of quite serious text, which contains a lot of objective information, it even influenced the fact that the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine decided to change the preparation for the counteroffensive and to change certain tactical points because , after all, it's not all lies, as they said , it's all fake, no, it's not all fake . i want to ask now, volodymyr, first, vladimir how you still think it's someone drained, someone handed it, someone sold it. is this a game inside the elite of the political, political , military, or espionage of the united states of america itself? how can it be called, because i , as a ukrainian, feel a little bit of a stab in the back, actually, please. well, there are several versions here. by the way, one of the versions can be that, let's say, among the military, there are many

military sympathizers with the republicans, although the american armed forces are out of politics as usual, but leaking such information means strengthening trump's position in criticism by the current government, this is one scenario, the second scenario, uh, this is uh, hacking, electronic hacking work , as you know, russian hackers are not the last ones, secondly, we all remember, again, it may not be russian hackers, next, why and why is it not us sometimes uh well, this is for the purpose of creating a fog of war, none of these versions has so far been uh, not significantly shaken, not denied, and the most interesting thing is that

the russians grabbed these documents, uh, just how, well, samashedshi , as they say, because they shove this ratio the loss is really there, so to speak, under retouched, it looks like a bite to the bone and the first person to swallow this information twisted russia for ukraine in these documents , there are no threatening moments because, well , 90 percent of what is said there is essentially already discussed in media information, that is, everything one thing is that the plans prepared by the ukrainian general staff are very different scenarios, and as they say, the team will go only according to the number of the envelope that must be opened in time. indeed , the statement was made by the ukrainian side that

the order for a counteroffensive against the given the last moment, you know, with different counter-attacks, the story is very interesting, it’s nice, it says so much that the conversation about counter-offensive now has more weight, obviously , than counter-offensive itself, it reminds me of the american movie he thinks you’ve seen it , call it lucky number, let us know bruce willis and there is such a thing the phrase er-e kanzatz-city shuffle and when he plays this hired killer with him he says kanza city shuffle it means when everyone looks to the right you go left well he kills someone there because he looks in one direction he shoots him in the other side it seems to me that the ukrainian side somewhere here is also creating such a kanzatz-network of closets when everyone sees one side. a counteroffensive or not. it is possible that there will be some other actions on the front. it may start from a completely different side, and thank god, it is obvious that the russians may not understand this. this is what they are afraid of, mr. ivan, to you as a spy, but not a representative of the special services, the question is, and i am, but you have experience in handwriting, and you have probably studied many similar stories and

participated. obviously, in some similar moments by handwriting, reminiscent of this leak, the leak of information about the counter-navigation, well, in general, only the combination of weapons, the loss of many other things that happened in the united states of america, three, three such cases immediately come to mind: the watergate scandal . we remember. yes, when the republican party followed according to the democrats, president nixon won, but the scandal was more uh, it was shaken. yes, and he was forced to leave his position there, for which he was just elected . eavesdropping and for 30 years they did not know who did it, where did this information come from, yes - the journalists there wrote such an interesting investigation and for 30 years, the deputy former deputy director of the lbr said so . it was me, i became the source of this information, i did not agree with that

how is president x doing there? yes, with his politics, the first kyivstar, we are putting off the second pussy. this is juliana sanch's wikileaks . yes, he spent 10 years hiding in the ecuadorian embassy in great britain. who did it, it was done by an employee of the united states armed forces. he even then changed his gender. the second case and the third case are edward snowden. this is an employee of the us national security agency, which is engaged in listening to all electronic phone networks. i liked that the u.s. government. so he collected a lot of information from his allies, threw it out to journalists on the internet, and then reduced the russian federation . that is, there were no signs of espionage, a labor operation on the united states of america, that is, for

what will i do? it seems to me that my reason here is not that it is more banal. but you have to look for them internally, i said that i agree that it is possible that this person or group of people is an option. they do not agree with what is being done inside the country, for example, with the policy of the specific institution where they work with the politics of, for example, the white house, there are democrats , what are you doing? we have many problems inside the country, so that in ukraine you help the technique, money must be done internally, and you are externally. and maybe this became the reason for throwing out such information, but i say it again. i don't believe that the russians were behind it for just one reason . imagine, let's have a journalistic topic like this, if the journalist is your colleague. yes, he finds a source of information somewhere in the president's office. yes, and he receives something interesting every day. it's hot and he always has materials that are hot . will he burn his source? yes, do that, throw away, publish materials so that you can calculate his source, and vice versa

. i will obfuscate as much as possible. this information is to be mixed with some other facts only in order to preserve its source, that is, intelligence works in the same way, if it is a source of information, then they will constantly pull fresh , relevant information from it, no one will immediately burn it, that is, what can i say, i think it is necessary to search the source is precisely in the united states. by the way , you know, they say that this leak of information endangers the counteroffensive. well, you know , the biggest threat here would be if, say, the russians found out the ways of supplying weapons of dislocation where are these weapons being prepared now by our military, er, there conditionally because well, in principle , on the front, the russians have the forces they have and have these forces will no longer exist, well, they won a trench of 74 km in the zaporizhzhia region, and what will this change from what they would have learned what will happen to the zaporizhia region, this will change the length of the trench or its depth may change, but in principle it

will not significantly affect anything when the tanks, armored personnel carriers go , god bless the planes. i say, i think that the information that is actually secret and important for the supply of weapons will leave the location for preparation, so this information was not leaked to these other things , well, obviously, this is some kind of final. i hope that the united states of america will sort it out and find out and i now want to take up one more topic about putin's health. i will ask that we now watch the video of the meeting between lukashenka and putin and that even bulba the führer remarked that well, i think that it was the real putin, one of the three, but the real one, as they say it doesn't look good, let's see

by the way, president lukashenko is not very good. by the way, he is such a godfather , and it is not very good. yevgeny kiselyov is a russian journalist. well, he has been working in ukraine for a long time on inter ukraine tv channels. he said that he has information from russia about the fact that putin is really sick well, he has been sick for a long time but now he is having such a moment and evil tongues also say that the russian elite is betting now on such a tula governor alexey gennadyevich dyumin, born in the 72nd year of his birth, he is a military leader a politician, well, they say that they see him as the successor, he is like that, you know, as they say from the depths of russia, he is such a real patriot, so he can lead the government in the kremlin, become the one who will turn the russian ship back, and i will follow a different course then i would like to ask mr. volodymyr, first about these statements. well, in principle, people who have access to certain information about putin's health and it is possible to search for another person

. because you know, the kremlin somehow destroys people so much that i think healthy forces in russia. well, how healthy forces are only want take money, trade and live normally normally, i think they can be a pepper to them, they can be whatever they want. these are people who basically want to live normally, trading , working with rich countries that have technology, resources, opportunities and markets for the sale of russian e, first of all, energy carriers and russian resources are, as i understand it, healthy forces, unhealthy forces , with which there is nothing to lose, or putin, who already has a permit from gaga, or the schizophrenic dugin, or the same kovalchuk. well, in principle, he will conceive there is nothing, these are not healthy forces, these are sick people who, in principle, want to burn together with the kremlin and the whole world, that's why, vladimir, first of all, about putin's health , and that's about it. dyumin eh the fact is that at one time eh putin began to appoint his bodyguards to the governorship positions, gold personally was

putin's bodyguard eh, the head of the guards , who, in principle, was seen in eh in connection with prigozhyn kadyrov well, you have to understand that er, these kadyrov national formations are in the structure of the soviet union, that's why here there is objectively. but er, among the governors, there is, well , besides dyumin, there is a governor of the kaliningrad region who, er, started something. well, let's look back at european discourse, but dyumin is one of the most comfortable why in fact, even when putin has no maneuvers. and we need to highlight ourselves somewhere, here we remember, uh, uh , it was in such media circulation after putin visited the trum factories, because with armaments in russia, as we know very well

well, putin decided, so to speak, to inject an impulse or an inoculation of activity into these factories, they really work three shifts, but the line of what they are produced is the whole generation, it is the weapons of the 70s and 80s , they are nothing new now therefore, a visit to dyumin is, first of all, a visit to a comfortable territory, a visit of trust to someone who, in principle, is in the same boat with putin because putin has billionaires who became billionaires thanks to putin as his financial support and are administrators who come from his security service and what well i am personally indebted to him for that. it seems to me that the bet on the personally

loyal putin of the governor is wrong. well , it seems to me that the biggest combinator of firing potential candidates , including potential duna, is kiriyenko, he is the most trained and trained and he is at at the first opportunity to jump into the presidential chair, er, er, this opportunity will be used incompletely, mr. ivan , then i will ask you if lukashenko really noticed only that of putin or what other people are saying. well, journalists in particular russians, well, those who have their connections in russia, for sure we have not lost them regarding putin's health, and of course we hope that he will die there the day after tomorrow, but in any case , these may be symptoms, symptomatically, because any failures, any what losses of disappointment for putin can affect his health in this way or ours , well, second of all , did

the kremlin really or really decide that this would be a rather convenient character? after the meeting with the oligarchs, when putin came to that time, was he still the head of the fsb or a pretentious minister? they said that he was a guy or something, they said that he was a good guy. and he was a good guy. then he transplanted some and destroyed others. please yes. look, because we want to discuss the health of this dictator. well, this is a thankless matter. we don't know what's going on there . do you remember that he is carrying a suitcase behind him? yes, so that the enemies are there. foreign intelligence. we got access to this. i know what lies there. these are his tests. and by the way, that defector is an employee of the federal security service , gleb karakula. yes, who literally escaped from the russian federation last year, he says, no, he is absolutely healthy. he is normal. i think he will die soon. and he also has such a disease, such a disease . no one knows about it, that's why. well, let's not take it into account for now. these people are the people who voice it. it's obvious that they are people who want to collect views on youtube

. even if they are journalists or some experts or they just want to make a hype, well, that is, everyone will agree with this about dyumin, it is also a very interesting story, right, when he mentioned him, he was a bodyguard, and i will say yes, he is not that, not that he is not smart, he is very depressed, he apologizes a lot to himself, but look at him there is a plus-minus, there is a public speech, he is there in general, there are three words to connect for him there , well, this is according to the city, yes, we will beat everyone . yes, it is very, very easy to see there. by the way , the same guard is the same - this seems to be the minister of emergency situation in the russian federation the same the same yes, that, well, that one is not there at all, another, another, appointed, that’s what his putin’s bodyguard is, putin’s bodyguard is also such a not very smart side of normal situations, did something else drown or fall into an abyss somewhere in the altai or where was it or

uh, what exactly are the guards? imagine who putin is, whom putin can choose from. yes, he is i ate there, they took me there, and all he sees are guards, so he can appoint people from this continent. well, you will be. you are a good guy . you are a good guy. you will be. the guard, he doesn't communicate with them either, he doesn't have access to these people, the same cage, the same over there gerasimova patrushek yes, plus or minus he can still somehow run to him there, but he distances himself even more from the people to whom to choose the storage uhu, that is, language is going about the fact that this is still not groundless talk about what it is, but it will again be a succession. as far as i understand, who can continue putin's general line, or here you are, as in soviet times we said, we speak

, we worry, we speak to the people, we will lead the parties, we say the party will lead lenin i i understand that this party is putin's entourage. well, that's me figuratively speaking. the party is not legal . but in fact, it is not always there. we understand putin. that is, it could be people who see what the trick is. the last time you were look at yes, the receiver was kept a secret for a long time and kept in suspense. at first, they seemed to give preference to serhiy ivanov, he did it right there , krylya, then he was then the minister of defense of the russian federation, he began to meet and hold meetings there and even once he jumped out somewhere in front of putin and began to open the meeting and then publicly put him in his place, tell me for a second what you started, where should i start and showed everyone in time all the people who were

opposed to this and it they are there they began to insert beams into the wheels, various scandals began to be pulled out of the army, small ones, big ones, medium ones, somewhere there, they inflated these scandals with a small story , they inflated the big ones, and in this way, this culprit lost the opportunity to apply for the position at all, but at the last moment , dmytro medved was chosen because it was believed that he was more loyal there, that is, what i am leading to is that until the last moment it will not be clear who is more loyal who was chosen as the successor there, everything will be kept secret and then he will do some more inspections, don’t look at how the next one will behave. how will he make decisions there, how will he communicate, that is , he will try to control him as much as possible, mr. volodymyr. well, your last question is very short. if we talk about what putin will choose for himself, is it still is it still a possible option, are there any forces in russia that can lead to power, or look for someone who will not be controlled by putin and will not satisfy later, or putin realizing that he will find himself

a deputy governor, a follower of his successor he is obviously doomed to live forever already in russia there in his residences let's go where to sit, no contact with the civilized world for him is already unreal everything, that is, he remains as this tsar says, well, can there be another person, not dyumin, some one there no, not gold in the bottom, but someone completely different , even now in russia, there is no chance for that, well, the legacy of the government can be, moreover, under the guarantee of preserving uh , well, all kinds of preferences and personal life of putin’s personal life, he is still not eternal and uh even if they are doubles they will imitate well, some sort of public presence, the collective putin of the present must somehow be re-installed, conditionally speaking, or

verified, but the current putin was verified through the falsified elections , of course they are falsified, but still some element of the support of the majority is in this power, after all, this power of collective putin wants to rely on some collective will of the russian population, because of which they will play for the first time the preservation of the electoral core of those who live the dream of a well-fed life the first decade of putin well, and accordingly avoiding criminal responsibility for their previous actions, that is, for them, there is an option of a deaf defense of such a fortress surrounded on all sides, and this simplifies for them the mechanism of the mechanics of preserving their own personal power , but it is not

allows them to develop the country, that is, the degradation of the country in exchange for personal power and personal security, this mechanism is not very predictable and it can lead to mass riots and the withdrawal of entire territories from russia, that is, in essence, this is the scenario deaf defense it is very reminiscent of the deaf defense of the soviet union, it seemed that the union was all riveted and concreted, that no republic left it, then everything quickly fell apart. i think that now the republics of tule are islamic. in russia itself, they are already semi-autonomous for her, ready for independent life, it’s just worth it bend the nut, pull it and everything will

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