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[000:00:00;00] this is stated in the source of these documents, about which we have been talking for the last few days , uh, conclusions were drawn that the brutal war between ukraine and russia will end in 2024 and neither side will win, but both will refuse to negotiate on ending the conflict analysis concludes that even if ukraine regains a significant amount of territory and inflicts unpleasant losses on russian forces, a result that the intelligence of the united states of america considers unlikely, the country's achievement will not lead to peace negotiations
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the end of the conflict is unlikely during 2023 under all the scenarios considered, says the document, which was not disclosed before, well, first of all, oleksandr , to what extent do you think all the documents that were merged into the network are accurate , according to you, and how does russia in this situation try to use is this element of these merged e-e documents in order to create their own information and psychological special operation, well, first of all, their authenticity should probably be established by the investigation that is underway in the united states, and only they will say how real is it, authentic or not authentic from what i see. can we assume that there is some kind of truth or truth, more precisely, in these documents there may be uh, this is due to the fact that it is possible to examine how late they are now uh-
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actually the united states is their uh officials to the leak itself, that is, they are quite puzzled and they are now actively looking for a source, it is clear why, and they are investigating, so obviously it is not excluded that such a leak could be the second way that russia took advantage and here and the answer is how real documents relating to ukraine, russia has already taken advantage, russia has taken advantage in such a way that they used these documents that are now showing, in particular, by falsifying individual data, in particular, data about you , by making them larger than the russian ones and thus trying to throw in this informational and psychological operation where we can implement us that is, as far as ukraine is concerned, i think that, at least from what we have already seen, they have already falsified it, as for the rest, it is not excluded that these documents really existed and they were of exactly this content, at least on today nothing else has been proven or said in the united states
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, however, this is ultimately 100% fake, so we are starting from the fact that they may contain some true information about the fact that some of them, er, may be falsified just before by the way, the new york times, also referring to the same documents, claims that secret documents show that the fsb and the ministry of defense of the russian federation are at war over russia's losses , the publication indicates that secret intelligence documents testify to a fierce struggle inside the russian government, it follows from them that the fsb accuses the military of concealing the scale of losses suffered by russia, it is concluded that the military of the ministry of defense does not want to report bad news only to the standing command, well, it is obvious to vladimir putin, what do you think is the true information about
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russia's war against ukraine? can affect russian society or russian society as russian sociologists say, although what kind of sociology can there be in a totalitarian state, they say that 80% of russians support putin and in general loss, everything that is happening has no meaning at all according to you, does it matter and can it in some way change russian society or at least encourage this society to take some active actions or counter putin's aggression, putin's politics well, i think you understand sociology really in an authoritarian country is of no importance despite all the anointing. who works there is trying to calculate, well, what is the difference between them , there are still fair elections somewhere in some of the
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authorities, does that affect anything? well, there are such attitudes tomorrow they will tell something else on tv and there will be different moods. we see that what was planted by the russian propaganda machine is being completely manipulated and manipulated, and the russian special services, which controlled the flow of information, were involved quite powerfully in this, because the zombification of the russian population has been going on for years, if not decades. over this is quite powerful, therefore, it has its fruits, it has its consequences, which are not yet visible, therefore, i will tell you what to measure sociology. take into account that some other sociological surveys will show something in they will not show russia . there is no need to focus on them at all. in russia, sociology can be an indicator in general, it will be street riots, confrontations and clashes between them, which can turn into a civil war. this is how it has always been in the history of russia .
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what power scenarios did they lead to something, not necessarily to something good , but changes occurred exclusively because of blood , exclusively because of sacrifice, exclusively because of losses due to large ones, now there is already blood and there are victims now, including uh, russia is carrying large ones losses in this war, but apparently blood has not yet been directly spilled on the streets of moscow, petersburg, yekaterinburg, other cities, and accordingly, there is no visible indicator of that , but believe me, if something does happen, and let's say the prospects to believe that it will happen, it's just that the time frame is not necessarily now, they there are reasons to believe that this will happen, so that no sociologist will see it, this is the spark that always causes a riot, not even a revolution, but just riots, which can be bloody,
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which can be violent, etc., that's all russian history has already been and what was that and will be well, yes, as they said that the russian rebellion is senseless and merciless well , it is roughly so in the only sociology that i believe that was made public just these days that 70% of russians wanted to fly to another planet, i think that this is 70% who want to avoid mobilization because we know that the state duma of the russian federation has approved a draft law that allows russians to be served with summonses not only in paper but also in electronic form . to the personal account of military service on the public service portal, now russians have to go to this account every day to check whether there is a subpoena or not. if a person has received an electronic trip, he no longer has the right to travel abroad. if the person
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evades, he can be deprived of his rights on driving a car, refusing to conclude a credit agreement and a loan agreement , the propagandists of skabeeva and popova believe that this e-e law is advanced, and yet the question arises how to explain it to the russians themselves, we will also hear them shouting like this - it means one thing it means that we are burned in the bull's eye. and we got into the center of the zero of the number 10, right in this very bull's eye, because of course it would be very convenient for them if our system of bibliographic expansion continued to remain at the level of the middle of the last century. expansion will be the most advanced in the world and
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we have done all that is necessary for this, in fact, ordinary citizens of ours take questions on these questions, of course , they must be systematically answered. so when the whole world dreams of the fact that, well, russians also dream to fly somewhere to another planet and in order to develop, well, some kind of progress in the end, the kremlin propagandists dream about how it is better to make a mobilization system , how to destroy the world, how to attack new territories, how to conquer new territories, how are you, alexander do you understand that it is the desire of the russians against everything to stop progress, stop life on the planet and turn the entire planet into a large military training ground because, well, it all starts with russia
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, they just want to scale this whole whole my delusion for the whole world i think you know i caught myself thinking how good it would be if the world now came up with some kind of technology that would make it possible to realize what was planned for those 70% of russians who gave answers like that about getting to another planet, i think that many on to this planet, i would thank the developers of such space technology if it would give the opportunity to send them there far into space and preferably to other galaxies far from the planet earth, it was easier for everyone as far as the situation is concerned in general well, you see, again, eh russia is not determined to end the war, that is, they believe that they still have a certain internal resource, which consists in manpower, that is, they rely on whom, traditionally , people to people, and so far there is no such resistance . returning to the first question in
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our discussion what is going to happen and when this breed of sensitivity is supposed to give birth to this senseless rebellion on the one hand, on the other hand, the war for liberation from the colonialism of the russian empire, which oppressed individual peoples for centuries and continues to do so until then intend to continue hostilities and when, er, when does anyone know, did you think and consider these wild scenarios? yes, there are wild scenarios that were described by the western media, which considered , including, the death of putin, which could have occurred only there, not only there, but not only because of external reasons, but and biological, yes, it is about the fact that this is what we are talking about and, in particular, scenarios are being modeled that this state of affairs will persist as long as putin is in power and as long as this course is in place. this does not mean that russia will change after
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putin, just when there is a change of power transition and this period of transit of power, a window of opportunity appears in order to end the war successfully as soon as possible, to cause even more damage to russia, and the like the nuts were tightened, they tighten but also press firmly, but i have to tell you that in my opinion, either the nut or the thread rusts, and yet it will break at some point just until it breaks. unfortunately, we must understand that this is not an easy stage either what this is a declaration of russia's intentions in one way or another to continue and drag out this war. the russian federation wants to introduce a war tax, and they are appealing to men. 2-3% to the
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personal tax is not a serious expense. % a-a tax needs to be paid by physical persons, this is what is impossible, some are losses, this is someone running , someone is hiding, that's why there is such and such opposition to such laws that we adopted yesterday, so i paid 1,200, that's what's needed our million-strong army of men who are conscripted and simply aged there, let's say up to 45 years old, will solve it. i think the problems are more serious, that is, they don't have a war with ukraine, and there will be a military tax, that is, they are conducting a special military operation, but
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these resources are mobilized through they organize electronic subpoenas, that is, i understand that russia is determined for a really long-term war, because they are already starting to shake this money out of citizens' pockets, if there is not enough of it in the budget, they will shake it there until the very last the russians in order to create this resource , to resume the production of missiles by the fall, according to our general staff, well, that is, they are doing it in order to fight, not in order to create something in this world, but in order to destroy, how to overcome this psychology in general - in the russian federation, that is, in what way can it be stopped, uh, this obsessed country and obsessed citizens of this
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country, it will all be, you understand, we are again approaching what we are approaching the fact that no matter how there is some historical burden it is and it affects the technology even on the politics and culture of any nations that exist on the planet and they have some kind of imprint and obviously, let's see. apparently, this is the same question that we are discussing with you now , in particular, the rulers who were in the history of russia, who were quite often these are the same dynasties that were tsars and emperors. some of them did not know the russian language, they spoke german. i want to remind you that these were european dynasties that came to the throne in this realist era. next to them, at that time , many were part of the russian empire.
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of ukrainians who helped to create and multiply civilization in that er in that world mute from this one about which they wrote there and so on and they wondered i think what can be done to change er russian society ayet well let's see in 1861 serfdom was abolished they they didn't know what to do with this freedom. and now thousands of 2023 are very different from when they, as slaves , are ready to go and die, when they, as slaves , were told to pay 1.2 will pay when they are just like serfs then and now are ready to behave obviously to me it seems that quite a lot of people tried to change them, but the problem is that they are too big, and this is the myth of greatness that they killed, that this is a great empire that has the right to conquer and so on, it weighs so much that until this empire is not reduced to an empire
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it is not worth counting on any changes, but it seems to me that this empire , of course, relies on the church, the russian orthodox church, and a branch of which exists and continues to work in ukraine. today it became known that the security service of ukraine seized property vadym novinskyi, who is involved and is one of those persons who influences the ukrainian orthodox church, the sbu seized property worth more than uah 3.5 billion, we see, mr. oleksandr, that during the last two weeks , starting from march 29, 2023, when the monks of the moscow church were supposed to leave from kyiv-pechersk lavrik, they simply ignore this decision of the ministry of culture, of course now the decision of the court will be obvious and this decision of the court will be implemented, but this does not mean that eh in
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the version from the branch and in the development of what is happening around the russian orthodox church the church will be put to an end because there are many parishes and branches of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, the most among the orthodox, the church and the ptu are trying to expand and expand, and parishes and church communities are moving to the ptu, but this is still happening quite slowly. according to you, in what way should the ukrainian state do everything in order for the uoc to still remain a branch and the russian orthodox church, or it was banned or at least its activities were limited, so that in all cases when the state signed agreements or granted benefits to the ukrainian orthodox church, so that it
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in the end it stopped, you know what is needed for this, i am still an optimist here in this case because i see that the first thing i think is that there is a lot in this, which means that territorial communities play a role, these are people who go out on the ground and, in principle, according to legislation. it is these territorial communities , through their bodies and local self-government , local regional councils, etc. they have the right to make certain decisions, in particular , the decision to actually ban the activities of the russian church in ukraine and transfer the religious buildings of the church to others objects are for the use of the community that is located here, respectively, of the orthodox church there, in case there is such a decision, and i see that now ukraine and this movement is spreading, and by chance i call on people who see this coming after
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this to express their vision from the prohibition by russia, in fact, of an institution that conducts destructive activities in favor of russia in favor of our enemy. when we are at war, that is, people are the first thing, it seems to me that it is at the head of everything, and in the end , our people have changed a lot in our history ukrainian is how we fundamentally differ from that of russian society. the second is the state, of course, which through the law enforcement agencies of the security services and the national police is also responsible not only for compliance with the law, but also for the implementation of the law and its implementation, in particular, the implementation of court decisions and execution of other acts, and there are two planes here, the first is that i like how the security service has become active in this direction and we see that such work is going on, and not only in kyiv, by the way
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, it concerns ukraine there and there was a court in cherkassy and a decision was made there regarding their ecclesiastical iraq about house arrests and so on, that is, some kind of movement is taking place in this and it is already having some positive results, because the faithful of the orthodox church of ukraine can go, for example , to the dormition cathedral and the lavra and already stay there there is already a lot of alcohol there, that is, there is a certain movement, so it is important here that the security service does not stop, because you know, when i visually look at what is happening there and hear from many people, well, i already at least hear what many referred to the article, there is such an article in the criminal code of ukraine, denial of russian aggression, and denial of russian aggression in ukraine is a criminal offense established by law, this is already a reason for law enforcement agencies to bring these people to justice, what should be done in each case, i don't
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think there are any excuses and turning a blind eye to this situation and subsequently ensuring the execution of court decisions is already more difficult, because we see that these people came out who are defending and who are speaking out, by the way, there is information about that that is not there, it is not that pavlo, who is already under house arrest, manufria is not in the laurel, and in general they left. that is, only these people remained there. we understand the issue of not allowing a power scenario or the creation of a picture that russia will later use, but i want to remind you that if it is one plane on one side of the medal, the other side of the medal, the country is at war, there is a state of martial
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law, if there is an organization that is established the investigation has connections with russia and is called, in particular, to throw in narratives beneficial to the enemy, to conduct destructive subversive work from the inside, to be, in particular, a cover for russian intelligence. well, how else is it possible to have to ensure this decision with the implementation of the national police, that is, people must also understand that despite all the freedoms that exist and the fact that the attitude is now quite liberal, and this is exactly the advantage of ukraine over other states, there is still no need to cross the border, which is actually already beyond by law, because it is no longer the right to realize a peaceful protest, it already crosses other boundaries, it is already connivance, collaboration and cooperation with the enemy, this is a completely different situation. by the way, you mentioned this article of the crimean code regarding the non-recognition of the armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine under this
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the former governor of the kyiv -pechersk lavra is included in the article, and one of the accusations in particular is the non-recognition of this armed aggression. around the uoc of the moscow patriarchate and well, it will remain in one form or another on the territory of ukraine, how will it affect the domestic political situation in ukraine , how influential will they be? i think that their influence will be lost, and it is already becoming noticeable, because let's face it , their influence was based in particular and on the fact that there were people like in minsk and others who actually provided them with economic , well, financing, political, let’s say , cover, etc. this is the first, that is, it is obvious that i
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hope and believe that the ukrainian people no longer will allow the presence of a party similar to the opz or there or various opposition blocs in the ukrainian parliament or in other councils, and secondly, they will still lose influence because i am almost convinced that now the majority of communities will make decisions and under the pressure of communities, these churches will move . and what this is a church without parishioners. it seems to me that this is no longer a church and it is useless to talk about its influence. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for the conversation. this was oleksandr musienko, the director of the center for military legal studies, we are friends we are working live on the espresso tv channel for those who are currently watching us live on social networks, please like this video, subscribe to our social networks, read our news on the espresso tv website, we are working for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, the most up-to-date information from ukraine of the world. the frontline chronicle
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