[000:00:00;00] this information is outdated in many ways, an analysis that could change, and there are opportunities for ukraine to change its plans to its contours, its contours are there. everything else is relevant . besides, there are many analyzes. there are many developments of data that may be incorrect. one thing is impossible because the document is a secret. this does not mean that it is 100% correct , and how would it be? well, it can smooth out the situation a little, but the real problem is that there is also a problem with the allies, that we are like spies to our allies in fact this is also generally known facts and even if someone will do some theatrical performance there about how unperturbed they are surprised it will actually be a theater because the allies know it it is certainly unpleasant that this part of the information about our allies was published in this way, and in fact it is the only such serious problem

, not the only one, but the most serious and terrible problem in the whole this is what the russian special services can see how deeply our intelligence has penetrated into all state structures and they can try to stop it somehow , that is, they can try to calculate it on the basis of information on the basis of documents that we did not get access to they received it partially, probably some of our satellite capabilities, which they may not have known about, this is partly the interception of electronic communications, which they may not have known about either. yes, to what extent. how is this happening? well, it may be that we have agents. well, there are people in all the towers of the kremlin, yes, in all the structures , i can’t try to calculate them, too , this is actually the same thing. i think everything is terrible in this situation. - but taking into account the fact that first of all we knew what was happening

in russian intelligence in the russian structures of military structures 1.5 years ago sides we saw in the incompetence of everything that comes from putin's russia, that is, i actually have it even here, i hope that even if they got access to these documents, they will not be able to accept the corresponding counter-message. well , that's how it would be. всплывает это my thoughts about what is happening and the consequences that may await us, mr. dmitriy, although this information is largely outdated, but the fact remains that the information leak did happen. and how can this leak affect the positions of the american government itself inside the country and how it will affect the reformation of the security system inside

the country require a review of everything what happened, who has access, why access, but the principle problem here is that if someone a person working in these who has access is allowed to work with these documents and a 24 -year-old guy who, for some reason , will brag in front of his friends at 21 h. people who should have a toast, he simply made a decision , that's what he wants to share with everyone. how much are they for how much well for let's say for 20 what is possible in 20 years i haven't had time to do anything bad yet there is nothing to check that is this is exactly such a situation where what kind of person who had

access he decided that he decided to tickle his ego decided to brag that he это знает это he decided to share it, of course, there will be some sort of light, there will be no, there will be a very serious investigation, including how is it possible in the future , and he is against such a leak of information, of course, this will happen. about the fact that the american government was probably spying, including on its allies, including on the alleged leadership of ukraine, as this could seriously affect the relationship between the united states and the rest of the civilized world well, again, everyone knows that we are watching everyone here. there is no secret about it, they try not to say it so as not to feel uncomfortable in such situations . well, there are examples

, by the way, from south korea, and the american government. from these documents, we once again saw confirmation that behind the scenes , the american government is trying in every way to push our allies so that they too they helped ukraine more, including, for example, with the supply of weapons, and at the same time they prevented some requests for cooperation with russia , and this is an example of south korea. in the process, yes, our intelligence monitored their internal affairs, how do they make decisions, what are they trying to do, in order to , well, try to come to the desired result, as it were, and the second example. well, i don't know

as far as it is possible to consider turkey as our ally, but they are turkey, a member of nato a - a and an example. this means that it is possible to sell ammunition to russia. again, these documents do not say how it ended. well, if we did not follow our allies, and maybe we were not quite allies, it is not clear with the egyptians from turkey, and then we did not find out about it, and we would not be able to e- e accept some kind of countermeasures, by the way, this is an example from turkey and egypt , by the way , something can be good. it was published. with all this follow and that well, such things will not go unnoticed for us when they make decisions , for example, to cooperate with russia, ah, but as for the relationship, i think that there will be no long-term consequences. poland , for example, has already declared that it does not change anything, they will continue dividing the considered a-a and i think that all the rest of our allies will come to the same conclusion because

, again, this is not some kind of special operation - it is, unfortunately, the actions of one, well, not very adult person, dmytro . pentagon chief austin ordered a review of the intelligence-gathering mechanism after the national guard arrests, and he said he would study the department's reporting and oversight procedures to inform the pentagon of efforts to prevent the repetition of similar incidents and what threatens jack teixeira for what he did, if of course he is proven guilty. well, i didn't consider anything from the point of view of what article this may happen, but i can give an example: we had a similar incident a few years ago uh, a girl with a funny name, an unreal name, this winner

uh, that means, uh, she went to prison, that is, she, i don't remember what time they gave, but it's a prison term , so he fell, and it's very likely that he's in danger because it's well, when i'm sure that when they apply for such a job with admission, they must undergo training so to speak, they cannot do what he did. you knew it, he committed the crime. and how specifically, what article? i'm not even sure может быть she's still in prison , it's necessary to recheck it, but yes, she was recognized as a wine , it's fucking obvious. if you have access to secret information, you treat it like that, then the responsibility should be strict enough, because if you attract this guy, they will prove it. i think he can also become a reality winner, after the trial, another case that overshadowed it a little, this whole story with these documents, but nevertheless, which now wants to be in the background, but is developing . the president of the aggressor country, vladimir putin, personally approved it.

the rest of the journalist in the journal evan hryshkovich himself was previously accused by russia of espionage and this is reported by blumber with reference to own sources, according to the publication, the approval of such a decision by putin reflects the growing influence of hard-liners the kremlin's facts are deepening the aggravation of the situation with the united states of america caused fierce condemnation from the united states of america us president joe biden said that such a decision by the aggressor country is absolutely illegal , according to him, american diplomats have not yet been able to meet with the journalist despite their attempts. biden noted that he had already talked to his parents gorshkovych and assured them that the united states is working on the release of their son dmitry from a russian prison as this story develops as it is covered in

u.s.a. well, indignation, of course, and again, it’s in everyone . we also have news , uh, that our journalist was arrested. rules, that is, they can do everything that i profitably do, and in a democratic society there are rules, and in an authoritarian society, i use that. from there to call uh, again, if this situation is the main issue, if a russian journalist is arrested somewhere, i am not sure how important it is for russia, and for the united states, yes, we will ask, we will ask, how will ego be released, eh, already

he received the status of illegally arrested in america, this is very important because it is, well , how would it strengthen the internal bureaucratic processes there? from russia and topics the more we give to russia, putin, the more we give, ah, well, i wish they would try to arrest the next and the next and the next so that they would have something to bargain with . unfortunately, the only solution to this problem is that if you have a second citizenship of another country, you have nothing to do it in russia, you want to do it because you can do it too, well, russia will trade for something, yes, for when, for some of its own , for some of its own, for some of its own interests, and especially that is, not only is he a citizen of america, he is also a journalist for us is also somehow especially important because a journalist well, they work for society, they work, they are necessary in a democratic society, and they somehow represent a lesser value, if you can say so, in russia, even with russian citizenship, it is dangerous to stay, what can we say about

some foreign ones, dmitry, in your opinion. and who does putin want to replace gorshkovych with? who can become such an equal figure for him, because bloomberg writes that it could be businessman vladyslav klyushin, who was recognized in the united states guilty of hacking and insider trading for tens of millions of dollars, i find it difficult to tell you that russia needs gorshkovych now, but usually the process goes like this, they will now go through the secret court, where the dispatcher will come up with this absolutely fictitious charge, and after that , they will send the visible person to prison, and then in this situation , how would they try to negotiate something? well, i don't know how. murders, killed someone in broad daylight a-a well, there are some crazy demands at the same time that we cannot leave

sky in germany, that they need to abandon their justice system and give this person to russia. brazil was arrested, i forget cherkasov's last name, there cherkasov was arrested, a russian spy, eh, they may need him, that is, this is the option that i heard, eh, but unfortunately, yes, they will use our democratic values, and against us, and this is very true an unpleasant dilemma with which the only solution is an iron curtain with barbed wire, no one needs to go there, even more so a journalist. but what kind of information bloomberg drops, in fact, if you analyze it a little more deeply, it is quite serious in the sense that the president, if you go by the name president russia has given the go-ahead for the arrest of a us citizen on the territory of russia. that is, the level of interference is so high that

well, it seems to me that relations between the us and russia are at such a level that everything is perceived as if things were in order, but if this in another time, it would have been a grandiose scandal with very unpredictable consequences. what do you think, uh, if it is really confirmed? this fact is what blumber reports that putin himself sanctioned hryshkovich's arrest. it is illegal, according to the united states, or can something happen here? outside the scope of what we saw, for example, the case of the basketball player. when the exchange took place and that was basically the end of it. could there be something more than this ? no i don't shit, what are you talking about, but i don't see any other way out, and again , we are a democratic country and the authoritarian regime is using our values, and against us, one of the reasons why, uh, well, i don't know, maybe it was

a direct instruction from putin or a permission or in general, one of the reasons why the russian government has already gone to arrest the journalist is the war in ukraine, because before that they did not try to pretend to be a civilized state that would enforce some rules and at least not it affects people with foreign passports, and even more so a journalist who received permission to come there and work there , but after the war in ukraine, without the fact that america and other countries united against putin, relations are naturally respectable they got worse with the supply of weapons to ukraine with sanctions against russia and further down the list, they just decided that i already don't need to, no, why don't you pretend to be a civilization, as if they have nothing to lose , they can, as it were, show their walls face well this is the case in this case. unfortunately

, it happened to be a journalist, uh, from the deval-strike of the black, so uh, the relationship is already so bad, i just don’t see that what else can happen, but both sides. if you ask about some kind of direct military conflict er, both sides er, avoid not only the americans , it is clear that russia is also seeking escalation directly with america from nato. i don't think that something from a journalist in this sense can change, but er, we will ask anyway how- then call mr. dmytro from there. we thank you dmytro abramson, blogger, political commentator of the united states of america, was in direct contact with us for joining us. we continue 30 years of marriage, that's how long together, our next heroes oleg and olga voron know exactly what steel love is, it was born in mariupol, just there both did not die. oleg, a border guard, stood up for the defense of his homeland surrounded by others and fought for his hometown until he was captured by fighters for growing up, how he survived the hell of captivity and

how oleg's wife experienced hell inside herself until my beloved was captured by olena chernyakova, the continuation of this footage from mariupol, the broken city on the ground, it was very difficult to look at it from my position, well, it was very nice to see my native home and how the shells went, how the full-scale mariupolitsa began, oleg voron had already been retired for 5 months a professional military man knew how to meet the enemy in the 14th fought for donbass in the ranks of the donetsk border and 23rd marine guard units, yes, on february 24 , i studied predictably both for myself and for

my family, if i am a military man, this is still necessary defend well, of course, i should be in the army from retirement, he returned as a captain of the second rank with the call sign of ravens under his command, 120 soldiers, the first weeks he repels the attack of the enemy from the outside, but he is burning inside, his wife and mother do not contact mariupol for the whole of march, where are they what are they? well, because that part was already cut off. i knew that there were already world rivers there. because he is here and i can't go anywhere and i refused to go. was born their daughter olga was convinced that the war would end quickly, because she had already seen how mariupol did not surrender in 2014, but the events of the 22nd began to unfold in a completely different way. when the

front line passed through our district, we climbed up against the nine-story building to the ninth upstairs and there, a little bit, a little bit, they caught communication, there was no electricity, there was no gas, there was no heating, only water was collected in all the houses, the decision to leave was made in a hurry when the front line crossed their house, and the russians had already started looking for ukrainian relatives in the city servicemen, the journey from mariupol to zaporizhzhia, instead of the usual two hours for this route, olya and her husband's relatives overcame four long days. in these phone numbers, all photos, everything that could somehow connect her with her husband, olya deleted in advance , all phones were checked simply for belonging to the support of ukraine they simply detained and continued, the fate of these people is unknown, i am the wife

of a serviceman, and accordingly i knew that they already have a base, who is a serviceman, family, etc. we were lucky, we arrived very, very quickly, while olya crossed the road to safety, oleg was in the very hell of danger, this is exclusive footage from a position that was held by a group of crows until the order to retreat, burning houses on the street were broken with pins, oleg says there was a smell of death, this and that mountain, and we drove around the city i will say that we ourselves were looking for weapons somewhere in our direction, there was an 80 mm, well, what was it that the gentlemen were shooting at? well, they were already flying there with not such a weapon, and almost as

i don’t know, the cadets were probably there for training . at first there was fear, but after a few weeks in surrounded by him, he disappeared, other emotions covered him, some kind of sloppiness, yes, i appeared, i agree that i saw my friend there at the beginning of march. well, there were 3 of them. well, and then somehow it died. death did i see every day every 5 minutes in every 5 there, well, guys died, a lot of clay, the group of crows had to be in position from the first at one point and then, along the city of the bull , they ended up with nato weapons still far away but that did not stop them, the enemy was destroyed until they didn't agree, there were 20 of them there, well, we let them in, well, for 10 meters, for 20, it's impossible to give everything that was there, a machine gun, we had

weapons, automatic machines, of course, they were, of course , they did not understand where we were shooting on wednesdays , no, kvit, fine, there were a lot of cars through hell well, there were civilian ones, military ones, there were cars. well, not hundreds of cars anymore. well, no, none of them got there, and they caught it. they bombed and shot there. well, it’s all around. well, it’s just fairy tales. there’s music. guys, who’s on foot, who’s how we broke through there, and i was driving on battery back then. my otr was repulsed on the spot, he fell into the river well, then i already said goodbye once again to the life that i well, because i was wearing a bulletproof vest with all these weapons well, i thought that they did not float, the float reached azov steel, long iron floors into

the depths tunnels could shelter thousands and brought out in different parts of the city there was a crow for the first time in a few weeks i saw myself a little bit there i looked at myself like that she broke her leg it turns out that i didn’t even feel anything at all i didn’t feel anything my ribs all hurt well because i changed the armored personnel carrier a little i was surprised. in this man with a beard, it is difficult to recognize oleg as we see him. this photo is because of the growth. the prices are because the only thing that managed to be saved at the plant every day was the units. and these are the azov marines, the border guards guarded the territories, they had a deadly task to chat on the street for several hours a day, it was in fact, playing with death. and oleg , as an officer, had to appoint his soldiers to this role for me. it was very difficult that when he says so, from this platoon, 10 of that platoon, ten

of that, ten people there today must select for post i understand that of these people who go there that well, almost half of them will not return, i will stay oleg will send an sms to oli at that moment, she will already be in chernivtsi but will be packing things for kyiv without her husband, and i did not imagine, but i was sure of because he will return, of course i took part in all the actions that were here in kyiv, i took part and went to all the meetings, at that time the actions in support of the defenders of mariupol had already started in every ukrainian city and abroad, and the military political leadership of ukraine was looking for a solution, how to withdraw the fighters, they tried to agree on extradition, the whole civilized world knew about the brave fighters made of steel, the hulk, ukraine-mariupol, pavlo and the russians agreed only on the only option

of capture, yes, on may 15, 2022, the defenders of mariupol left the factory, they were asked to lay down and surrender their weapons and gave them the enemy is in a non-working state, it was a matter of principle, you take this machine, it is permissible well, of course , everything was regretted there, everything was thrown away, everything that could be disassembled, we disassembled the fudge, we just shoved it into the door. you can't see and the barrel bends and it's already, well, you can throw it out of mariupol, you can send fighters to the colony of volyn residents, where in three months the russians committed a terrorist attack on july 29, they killed almost a hundred ukrainian soldiers, this terrible footage flew around the whole world, of course olya saw them and olya was desperate, she tried to find out at least at the red cross, is oleg alive? when the terrorist attack happened on july 29, i called them and asked what and how, no one gave me any information

. for a day, the boys were dumped there. well , a couple of days later, this happened at night. this was not the case with us either. they let me out there. i heard, well, of course, because the shell is not visible, you will come out there, there is something, a thorn, everything is in the throat, there are screams, moans, there are explosions about the capture of crows, as all animals say dry captivity , there was a week of interrogation, searches in ulanivka, i spent the first three months, then they were sent to russia in a colony to the city of stary oskol in the belgorod region. it was a resort compared to the belgorod region. well, i think so in my opinion, but let's go there because there are a lot of my boys left

there, so i won't tell much about it. to endure and so that the guys have enough strength to endure. i am very worried about this. there is no one there, but the will is completely unknown, something with her husband, she will write letters in the messenger every day, this is how they had it when they were separated, of course, all the letters were unanswered . on september 27, telegram simply blocked his account but i still continued to write all of them on my phone in a notebook . oleg will read every word only in december, after he returns home, this will happen on december 6 , 2022. the man is holding the flag, after that i got a call from the coordination headquarters, we congratulate your husband, he was returned to ukraine , but the man called. well, it was already close to the evening. hi, i came back in these shots. oleg

, just from captivity. he lost 20 kg. when he returned, he weighed only 57. they told him to stay there in hell. strength, the most valuable things that i was miraculously able to hide and preserve, show me something rolled out, also absolutely no price , how much gold is there, 3 grams or two, i don't know them, well, just as a memory, well , my wife and i have been living together for 31 years, well, me too under the lining, i had a jacket like this, well, such a cartoon, under the lining i put this ring, a ring, and a cross was also hidden there well, i think i will find it, they will find it well, there , well, they will beat me because of me, he had a wedding ring there, but the children , mother, this is for you.

fatten dad well, i want to say that the wedding ring returned to its rightful place somewhere, well, after a couple of weeks, oleg is already back at the service of ashes. they are now waiting for the return of his brothers, and mariupol is assured that it will definitely be under the blue and yellow, i believe that this year it's over well, it's almost over let's go well, i hope it's over join the brave, defend your faith gives us strength and we believe that spring will defeat the son, light will defeat darkness, unity will defeat discord, the armed forces

will win at the gates of life, death will win, life will win, they destroyed their cities, took away their relatives, stole their childhood and then they forcibly took ukrainian children to the aggressor country, they were sure of their own impunity, but the international criminal court in gaza issued a warrant for the dictator's arrest according to what order deported our children and this is only the beginning of a historic decision that will begin historical responsibility. i am grateful to everyone in the world who helps us fight for justice. all those guilty of crimes against ukraine will be