[000:00:00;00] and in any country it can happen, or someone can make a mistake, someone can forget something somewhere, this happens, this can happen . well, in this case, it is obviously the government, a systemic flaw, simply wrong, absolutely wrong , organized, access to secret information and circulation. this will all be reviewed by us. this is what the representatives of both parties are talking about in the congresses yesterday all day and today all day when they are interviewed and the democrats and republicans just say exactly the same thing that you need to review it absolutely immediately because it is inadmissible for this to happen in the future, of course it does not matter that even in these documents the fact itself is inadmissible that such a thing can happen. it simply indicates very serious shortcomings in working with secret documents that exist, but let's understand this if we think that what no one is involved in

this, or is it just that i took these documents , scanned them when i put them in the network, how did it happen that the loss file was so improbable, do you remember when there was a discrepancy in losses between ukraine and i was in russia many times, and it just didn't work. it's not that someone is hiding something , it's that it doesn't just happen during hostilities, then something changed there, they added , they took away, in short, it's strange if it's a document, who changes it before it gets there. besides is this guy on the network? i think that this version is being considered. i think that we will find out about it. it is not necessary that you did it again. he could have distributed the originals of the documents there among the whole community , not a small one, from which he was bound in on the internet, then how

long has it already become available in the public domain, anyone could take it, distort it in any way and publish it, publish the distortion of the documents, uh, they, what appeared there apart from this community, together i forgot what it 's called, people, this it is interesting for the holidays, there are weapons and other such things, she appeared in many social networks , they all appeared on twitter, that is , i think that the investigation should find out, she is sure that they will find out and we will find out about it because, well, journalists simply they will keep it quiet, we will definitely find out exactly how it happened , how it was distorted, yes, is there any other information, igor, look at this moment, is it someone?

says now there will be complications for all five eyes australia canada not there new zealand britain and i sit and think listen, well, this has been going on for years, so they were watching angel merkel, then they will throw it away, that is, it is not news for me that america is watching with four eyes on the whole world and is trying to understand what is in the heads of people in berlin, london, paris, moscow, now in kyiv and so on and so on and so forth , nothing has changed here in german-american relations when it was printed, it is obvious that merkel had her phones tapped and so on and so on well, the faces have changed a little bit, but to say that oh-oh-oh, there is so much tension . they don’t fly now. they greet each other calmly. it’s okay. they drew attention to this in america. something in the new york times writes about the fact that

now there will be no more north and south korea and to be friends with america and israel is also no, of course, he does not write that he will not be friends but they write that it can complicate contacts at the diplomatic level. such confidential contacts because, well, look, any of us , let's say if they tell me that someone is with me is watching even let's say to ensure my safety well, if i don't know that someone is watching my every lesson well, it will be like this, somehow it won't be very pleasant even if someone is watching to ensure our safety and i didn't know about it that is, someone becomes b we are followed here as well and they are not talking about the deteriorating relations between the united states, let's say southern ukraine, and israel, which can become complicated . these are the diplomatic contacts when it is necessary to talk about things that cannot , for one reason or another, be talked about openly . well, let's talk about that

the announcement of the supply of weapons to ukraine is not because some countries do not want to emphasize this, they are supplying them for the second time. well, how did bulgaria supply weapons to ukraine without announcing it? negotiations about such things are delicate for certain countries. they may become complicated because of this, that is, no one is saying that relations will deteriorate, but certain complications may be precisely to solve such delicate issues for certain countries. after how long, at your discretion, it is simply interesting how hot a topic this is for america that's why i ask the question how long will america forget about it next weekend let's say in a week on friday saturday cnn or fox news will talk about it or already well if there will be a secondary topic well eh look you

well, you know exactly because you yourself know the evidence that we are journalists, so you definitely know it better than i do. if there is any sensational news that will prevail, this is it, they can talk about it in a week and not talk much or talk a lot. well, if nothing will stop it i will be able to talk during the next week, they can talk further , i.e., american, american. we, too . the most important thing looks sensational, but who will definitely talk about it, they will say that i am at the congress, i will not be surprised if they find a party understanding and agreed to adopt some law to change the order of things, how secret documents circulate, although

this is the very fact that such a thing is possible that it can be or can really be a 21-year-old young man who can put the american foreign policy on the head of half the world or even your education, this is the very fact that i did not allow you to deal with this to do something something needs to be changed, igor, one more question, that is, you and i are talking about everything except intelligence , that is, they do not circulate so seriously in american society, there is no doubt that someone is suggesting something, there is freedom of speech in america, but this is russian intelligence, this is ukrainian music, this is canadian intelligence, this is the intelligence of the republicans against democrats , well, the new water game is there, the democrats, in short, about intelligence against the background of the war with ukraine, there is no talk of serious conversations, serious thoughts

of the american establishment, no, i would say that 90% of the conversation, well, the one i heard, let's say from last night, was sown, for example, by the msn to russia , which you can read about in the new york times, or is it politics, 90% of it is about exactly that. is this a blatant fact of flaws in the system that such a thing becomes possible no one scolds development. well, everyone understands that intelligence is important and it is absolutely independent of political beliefs, whether it is republicans or democrats , everyone understands that intelligence is important. a risk to the lives of certain people or with the help of technical means. it is certainly important, let's say, the extraction of these documents, for countries such as russia and china, it means that the intelligence of the united states has

certain certain opportunities to know what is there uh, what is it about, uh, in the russian general staff, uh, in the russian security council, and so on, they can also calculate how this is possible, whether any conversations are eavesdropped, uh, or there is some informant, that is, again, from this point of view , any leak can come out what documents and he is extremely harmful p igor, one more strange question public opinion well, if it is possible to live with such a phrase, does he consider this teixeira a criminal rather than an idiot , who is he in the discussion , is he a factor in the discussion at all ? not understanding what's on the map, not understanding what it is, as you just said , people's deaths are possible and it's sitting like that. well, come on, i 'll show you and pupkin what the wise men are, how i

stole something here and posted it, so on the general overview, well, more of the comments boil down to this, although i consider him a criminal, if he committed a crime, this is a fact, even if even if he did not understand what he was from and who the crime was, he committed a crime, but most of the comments believe that he is that such a young man is not full of sense that he could absolutely not understand what he is doing. well, nevertheless, it was an agent's crime and he put many, many people on his head all over the world, or because of what he did, well, let's see. i think that program prosecutor general melikarlen wrote yesterday that when the investigation is finished, we will know the results, we will know more, and i think that even if there is some other news that will break the bank

, journalists will not be the first to hear about it, it is better not to ask the prosecutor general and the briefing as the ministry of defense every time they will ask what is next, what is the result of the investigation, what, what has been done so that this does not happen again, that is, they, i think that this will be provided between the journalists forget about it thank you very much and if you still have a question , let's ask in principle how much do you think any political plans will really change in connection with these documents or do you believe that ukraine has changed its offensive plans and the united states will change some plans supply of weapons to change the nomenclature, fearing that the russians will be much better informed about the situation. i think that something can change . i hope that the united states will not change the supply of weapons. they will supply what they agreed on with ukraine. i would like to something supplied more even more eh and look, i agree with those as they say that with

the real planning of the ukrainian offensive well , a very limited number of people know, that is , when there when there in ukraine itself, uh, another high-ranking official that you know that one well, and i what do you want? where was the publication in the new york times? it seems that one of the representatives of the ukrainian leadership said anonymously that he is very afraid that this will lead to a domino effect, that the europeans will stop supplying weapons, or do they assess the potential of the ukrainian army as such? will be able to somehow cause serious results of the offensive well, then why send a lot of weapons if there will be no serious results yes and this is such a concern she is in kyiv obviously well she she she she understood what she is well i i hope that this will not happen because because because i still have an understanding of the fact that, well, at least in jabayn's administration and in himself, and

the understanding that very, very much is simply at stake, that if ukraine is not able to carry out a successful counteroffensive, it will be very it is difficult to justify for baidan, it will be difficult to justify the need for further assistance, the need to allocate the following, the following, in the next budget, money for aid to ukraine, and babin understands that the elections are waiting for him next year and that he needs the success of ukraine for success in the elections, i am more confused than how is the connection between the united states the day before, that is exactly what nato is in vilnius, how will the united states solve the problem, and the provision of quarantine and security to ukraine , what will happen to the ukrainian application for accession to that what is this? this is the most important issue because if it is not resolved, if ukraine will not have a security guarantee

in another form of joining nato or in the form of a guarantee, let's say, of the united states of great britain, guarantees equivalent to those given by of the fifth article of the nato treaty, this war can continue indefinitely because putin will not stop it, i don't, i don't see such a possibility that i would decide to stop, i decided to take him from ukraine , you can only expel him from there, and uh, on one side of the vegenet, on the other side, uh , the west must understand this, must make it so that he cannot go there anymore, because he otherwise, this war will continue for years. since they found time for us on friday, now we are on to ukrainian affairs , i hope roman svitan will appear now , a military expert, a colonel of the reserve of the armed

forces of ukraine, a military pilot-designer, and the first question. good health. thank you that in friday, they found time for us and the first question. you know, it's interesting and you're very personal . in fact, i read from time to time that activists of the russian federation, pro-russian activists , suffer, then they kill someone, then they rape someone, but recently a woman was raped somewhere, she was killed something else, i.e. the people who greeted with how is this putin , these types of troops, these are all the words you uttered, you were against such people in donbas, they tortured you, and now the one who tortured you, uh, his courts will judge him for criticizing the ministry of defense

of the russian federation, you can tell this whole story in two or three minutes, how did you react to it, how did you find out what kind of person it is , what is the name of this executioner of yours? so yes, in the 14th year, he was an adviser to the governor of the donetsk region, to military advisers he was engaged in the partisan partisan movement under the field , that is, they performed combat tasks in the rear of the enemy on the battlefield. they jumped and changed into russian slippers were handed over, they handed me over as a russian soldier after they entered, er, the russian army, er, started them , if anyone remembers the beard, i was the prime minister of the dpr , then the first prime minister of the dpr, this is a russian citizen, by the way. yes, now the deputy

is a member of the state. the state thought it was already a member walking there well, it is still as simple as that , the russians came, of course, we met them with bread and salt, it was something to meet, but they surrendered. fell into isolation, this is the donetsk prison, erm, in the prison, and the torture prison, this is the isolation that everyone knows very well for 10 years, it still functions, by the way, precisely in this mode, in the tiled mode, and in the mode like this when they took uh, then they started, well, of course, they immediately brought him to the isolation room, torture, um, uh, and he was drunk there, that is, the torture was carried out , including the doctor, i called him dr. mengele, that is, then i did not know who it was, i

you put a bag on my head the package was blindfolded, and they were all still wearing a mask. when they asked , well, the torture is standard, their standard torture, that is , they will heat the teeth with a soldering iron. that is, how long a person will endure, it is permissible to warm up the teeth, that is, when the pain comes and it is no longer unbearable to endure, well, they added needles under the nails, this is also, uh, there was such a thing . they have, uh, one of the tortures, that is, needles under the nails and on what needle how deep and here it is the doctor kept him conscious, and then when the thigh was slashed with a bayonet knife, the veins were cut, the arteries were cut, the blood came out, he died on the table with an intoxicant, he died - the doctor managed to call for resuscitation and

pumped out, managed to return the saline solution and this is dr. mengele , all this description. i don't know who this is. three years later, when they dropped my book and he wrote the book in the trenches of the donbass, yury evych in the trenches of the donbass, and here i saw him there. hey, colonel, yuriy evych, this book is being published in the trenches of the donbass, he signed all the tortures, as he checked the pain threshold . by the way, this just scared him, that is, uh. and then there are several imitations of executions. she was the last one to be interrogated. at the last interrogation , where were we and all these girls there

? 10 more people appeared. he conducted the interrogation and he conducted it without a mask, without a mask, and a beard they also removed a bag from my head, that is, the most extreme interrogation, i saw that the falsified person ordered some things to be shot , and he would not give me a tape in the morning, and in the morning they took me to the third shooting. but they took me to the third firing squad, they shot me off by bezler's order, they shot me east in this er, with these guys, they shot me off and further through without er, they exchanged me there was an exchange of one for 15, exchanged me for a m-msbeshnitsa, and they rudely took me away then volodya ruban

was engaged in this whole question. and we have bezlera m-m we have me i have a canary in this where we were there part 8 there were guys who drove to the execution bezlyrova one too imitation of an execution pure imitation eh that is eh imitated an execution vasile vasyly any one if anyone i remember there was such a journalist in the 14th year, er, a georgian , so he was with us , and the journalists came to us er, from the rain, timuralevsky , timur ralevsky, photographed us , took pictures, verified before this exchange. well , they stopped shooting at least мере растреливать пестаяют er. i'm sorry about that and yury yevych, what is he being tried for there, he is simply covering the russian army, or if he has what to him, what does the legal system of the russian federation tell him, if you can call it that yes, that's how it is, just like that, it's called a boomerang of fate

, it's called like that there is a certain club of crazy patriots, or there are some very crazy patriots, and there is a night in this club , he is in the leadership, yury evgeevich, in this leadership, they are somewhere, they are crazy patriots , they check the russian army, the russian leadership -m uh, about what they are it is not enough, well, the military is not conducting it correctly, that is, it is not patriotic enough, they don’t want to beat ukraine, but of course they have an article for mm, uh, yes, yes, there is that , and this article is about you, by the way . by the way, i saw this girl, but uh, they remembered him again

, then i already forgot 10 years ago, that's all it was такое есть sadist in russia yes well, he looks like you know i just like him i looked at such an intellect in glasses like that and then i asked that himmler was also interested in that. somehow, take it, he was also wearing glasses. yes, and they all drive in pince-nez. i can understand you simply if you can't speak. please tell me, tell us, tell us, tell everyone, do we need to be very nervous, because in the last two weeks , the information is such that the pressure on

ukraine has increased. in short, i can't figure it out, and you, as it were, build a logic of what is happening in bakhmut, after all , today they started saying that there ukrainians are already starting to leave some units, writing to leave in an organized manner. what is your opinion on this matter? you can tell us this is called positional combat in two words , this is called positional combat, when a unit that stands very close to each other, that is, at a distance, a shot of a small weapon starts to move this is what we call active defense mode , so-called active defense. well, the russians are asking in idle mode how to push the army out of

the quarters. our fire points are located in the buildings, our guys who lead er sniper pairs m-m who lead fire and correct fire and artillery on russian troops located in the eastern parts of the bahmut er russians now have the task of demolishing the nine-story buildings dismantle them with the help of artillery fire of air strikes dismantle them to the basement in the delta so that the basement is probably the best point of fire, that is, this is what they are now doing , because that is where they come from, where they can already be destroyed, and here comes the nine-story building to the basement that's where our troops are leaving, and they are taking the second position, it 's called positional warfare , we're sticking to the west.

they dismantled to the basements there already, in principle, there is nothing to do there, it is impossible to defend. i think we will hold this line until the beginning of our offensive, there is already a little left here. that is, you want to say that the task, which, as i understand, was set by the general staff of the ukrainian army to bleed russians there, near bakhmut, it is being gradually implemented , or maybe it has already been implemented, that is, what was planned was done , many russian soldiers were ground down, mainly - this is prigozhina's opg, they mostly climb, they mostly fall on the dagoniya and their и to repaint now, they have already approached because prigozhina does not have enough people and there is simply not enough, later russia did not pull there mmm er russian line units and they are asking with the help of already line units to plug the holes or they will try to squeeze out the holes later now and we are starting them

minusovat m-m somewhere for two or three years 200-300 people a day they are in the area of ​​bahmuta minusutsya good eh turned out to be such a good landfill for the utilization of russian live meat while still alive well , and then it is no longer quite a stomach as in any eh -e gorode means in any building it is impossible to turn around on techniques, the russians have to storm there mainly with manpower . and if i repeat myself once again, those who come will suffer colossal losses much easier to defend themselves in city buildings. let's continue to use this training ground and remember the pull of the russian troops well, prigozhin is already starting to throw messenger on the air