[000:00:00;00] i would like to emphasize on the following a-a the presence of a moratorium on the use of forced sale of the property of state enterprises and business associations in the authorized capital of which the state's share is at least 25%. orization points of the procedure for the termination of economic entities of the state sector of the economy, the terms of termination, the requirement for the liquidator, the rights of bodies management of state property , termination of enterprises, the procedure of privatization itself, it is worth noting that all these components are related to the subjects of regulations of current laws they are all already provided for, in particular, such as the civil and economic codes of ukraine, the law of ukraine on the management of state property objects, joint-stock

companies and others dear colleagues, the 36th amendment, authored by tymoshenko tsimbalyuk , was rejected by the committee, please determine , vote for 69 , the decision was not taken, so next amendment 40th gerasima does not insist 43rd gerasi insists me 44th time they insist 45 silent insists 46th burmich does not insist 50th aria yes, please, she is taken into account again in part please yes i have all the amendments taken into account in part i want you to take them into account in full therefore i continue the logic of what we are doing if now we pass a law with the terminology for termination instead of liquidation then we create an opportunity

for people who have certain influences and maybe financial opportunities simply very simple procedure sufficiently simplified received control over these enterprises precisely because now during the war during the active phase of the war most of the state enterprises they find themselves in a situation where they are approaching bankruptcy, they find themselves in very difficult conditions, and if we actually pass this law today in this form, it will mean that those who have money today will say that there are no oligarchs, maybe the old ones are gone, but there will be new ones because the money is now does anyone know, then let's stop before the fact that the states will actually be liquidated. dear colleagues , the 50th amendment of people's deputy gerasimo iariva is taken into account in part. the people's

deputy of arya demands full consideration of this amendments, i put the following proposal to the vote, i ask you to determine yours, vote for 64, the decision was not taken, the next amendment is now looking at who the 56th loan is not insisting on, it is partially taken into account, please aria dear colleagues, look at what we observed, in fact, all enterprises that were submitted to the fund were transferred to the fund state property, then they brought with them such a trail of great scandals, today even the former head of the state property fund is wanted for causing losses

to the state and today we see that uh-huge enterprises such as e-e elektrovazhmash or the largest producer of technical-titanium are approaching bankruptcy, that is, in fact, the liquidation procedure may be applied . do you think it will be possible, then, in fact, after that, someone can establish control, so if due to liquidation, the procedure is complicated due to termination, which involves merger, division, transformation, we find ourselves in a situation where we put the company at risk, i am asking for the 53rd amendment of gerasimo vayariv, it is taken into account in part

, auto-markets consist of full consideration put the following proposals of the authors, which is determined and voted for 57 decision not adopted the amendment remains the supreme in part the following amendment 56 positive please thank you, dear chairman, mr. movchan, and i appeal to you once again. please tell your colleagues how many enterprises are planned to be liquidated through bankruptcy. voiced at the meeting under the committee, that is, everyone should be aware of the procedure of how many enterprises were launched and the second explain to colleagues why these enterprises are brought to the stage of bankruptcy, and if you read the conclusion of the accounting chamber, this actually happened in the period of 2019-2022, when the head of the state property fund was mr.

senichenko, who was announced as an international wanted man yesterday. two questions are the number of enterprises and the second reason why they will be bankrupted. ruslan oleksiyovych, please provide answer, the answer can be it is only the position of the committee on the amendment, not the separation of thoughts that can be carried out at the committee, please , the position on the 56th amendment well, the first amendment deviations on the fact that it does not refer to what you said, but to this draft law. it is very important in order to put order in the management of state enterprises, of which there are many today that show signs of insolvency, this is actually a pre -privatization or pre-bankruptcy procedure in order to determine the way in which these enterprises will go either to termination or to privatization or to bankruptcy, this draft law does not conflict with other legislative acts regarding termination

thank you please 56 amendment of loan rejected by the committee, please be determined to vote for 58, the decision was not made. 59th tsymbalyuk, please mykhailo tsymbalyuk, the homeland of mr. golo, dear speaker, in fact, the phenomenon listed all the legislative acts and codes that provide for the process of liquidation of state-owned enterprises with a share of e-e state that is 50 percent or more because of that if all this

is taken into account, then there is no need to pass a separate bill during martial law, it is very important that those state objects which today are under threat of bankruptcy fall into reliable hands i mean not the liquidators but the management managers on behalf of the state who made an attempt to withdraw this enterprise because they want to part with state property 59 amendment of tymoshenko tsymbalyuk by the rejection committee, please be determined to vote for 58 decision not taken, please 57 gerasima

accident, please, it is taken into account editorial i want to remind you how some of the oligarchs with whom you are fighting appeared. and they appeared , for example, let's remember renat leonidovich or pinchuk, who received all the preferences for then for state assets during the privatization of state assets, when they were first artificially bankrupted and then divided and, through cunning schemes, transferred to the ownership of the newest oligarchs, so what you are proposing today, you are actually proposing to legalize the same redistribution of property if you leave it as it is today, it opens, i say once again, pandora's box, and there will be new oligarchs, because today there is money not so much with rinat leonidovich or

viktor mykhailovych, but with novy, who is closer to power today, the 57th amendment gerasim arieva, it is taken into account editorially, the auto market consists of full consideration, i put the proposal of the authors, i ask you to be determined to vote for 62 , the decision was not taken, the amendment remains taken into account editorially, yes, 61st ariyu gerasim does not insist, 63rd tymoshenko tsymbalyuk, please mykhailo tsymbalyuk homeland thank you, dear mr. head it is very unfortunate to say that our proposals are not taken into account, we see that the amendments do not pass and it is not possible

to improve this bill . we see that some technical changes have been taken into account, that is, for example, a state -owned enterprise has been changed to an object of termination , the owner of a state-owned enterprise to a management entity, etc. dear colleagues, we should not forget that indeed several dozen enterprises and not always the state's fault have become banknotes, but it is very important who will by the liquidator, how will he conduct the case , will the debt to the employees be repaid ? will all taxes be paid on the salary, or will it simply be

finished? determine and vote for 63 decision not made next 65 zaliznyak do not insist 66th joy they insist 67 geras they insist 68th storm between insists e-e 70th generation they insist 71 71st generation they insist further 74 75 posiychuk no insists 70 insists 75th borrowed, please, thank you, dear chairpersons , or ruslan oleksiyovych, representatives of the fatherland faction insist on all their amendments, that is not why let's go according to the table dear colleagues, let's still

discuss this bill what are you talking about our colleagues point out that this is really a model of a scheme for the withdrawal of property from state-owned enterprises, and if you think about the figure, today it is somewhere around 1,300 state-owned enterprises. at a meeting under the committee, the head of the bankruptcy department of the state property fund, under the video recording, under the transcript, notes that his task is to ensure the interests think about creditors , the representative of the state property fund does not aim to protect the interests of the state does not aim to protect the interests of the state property fund, but does aim to protect

creditors, well, a lot. i think yes, i think it is necessary. 75th loan amendment is rejected by the committee, what does it mean to vote for 58th decision is made dear colleagues, the 77th amendment yuliya volodymyrivna tymoshenko she asked instead of her amendments to give 5 minutes for the speech, please yuriy volodymyrivna 5 minutes please laska yuliya volodymyrivna 5 minutes dear colleagues, yes, the legendary draft law 8205, you just put it aside for yourself, what is it anyway, yes, 1,200-1,300 state-owned enterprises

, or where there are state-owned shares wholesale , will simply be liquidated, dear friends, i want to remind you that 2019 is when a person took office in the position of the state property fund, a person took office in september 2019 dmytro sinichenko, where it was stated that this svitoch is generally putting state property in order , do you remember what was said from these stands that this is a person who will return to the state everything that she lost three years in all the years, this person together with the organized organized crime group inside, well, a criminal organization inside the state property fund robbed the country, the result of the case is being investigated and now also the accounting chamber

, which turned all this inside out and said that 90 billion in total was stolen from the state property fund in three years of losses by this criminal group, the state property fund has worked well for three years. now i have a simple question. what is happening now, do you understand what it is like during the war 1,200-1,300 to 3,600 enterprises that can be liquidated, this is the first complete deindustrialization of our country, this is simply an incredible robbery of everything that the ukrainian people have, this is the closing of the future for the revival of the country after the victory, how should we act, the state should have every

such enterprise that has an industrial site all failed communications, almost completely oriented to the production of the enterprise, it was necessary to take every such enterprise as a precious thing into one's hands, give it a new life , carry out an import substitution program, carry out a program for the revival of local production instead of and where it is not just liquidation. and this law establishes that everything that will be received by the state from liquidation, contrary to the budget code, does not fall into the budget, but the only special fund , which was created separately from the budget, and for this money, which will be obtained from the sale of our of state assets of our enterprises 1200-1300, this will be directed to finance the further liquidation of state-owned enterprises of ukraine, and moreover, these laws

organize a competition for liquidators. you know what is called , well, a little informal words that end in eu i don't know where you will go next and i want to ask who is the author of such a policy, the land is completely all communal enterprises - this is what concerns the ownership of enterprises, everything will be destroyed, already 1200-1300 enterprises will never be able to be renewed. you are closing the country's path to the future. that's what the question is. and that's why i have a request to simply categorically not vote for these things. bill 8205 is the end of industrialization country, this is the end of our subjectivity regarding the production of important

, absolutely important products of industry, this is all that is being done now, this essentially ends ukraine as a subject both internally on the domestic market and on the external market immediately now invite one of the members of the chamber of accounts to report to you what happened three years ago when they said that everything was fine, we need to listen to what they will say about the cases raised, approve the concept in the parliament of how we deal with our state property, state property from enterprises, bring the guilty to justice and after to manage state property and not liquidate it, please. the 79th aria is partially taken into account

. to remind, in particular, about one more oligarch who ceased to be a citizen of ukraine , but remained an oligarch, ihor kolomoiskyi, he is a master of raiding, so in this case, if we are talking about the termination of yes b, which includes everything that i have already listed and this merger and this is a redistribution, so you give the raiding masters the opportunity to come in now and fully establish control over state enterprises that go bankrupt during the war or find themselves in a very bad economic situation, you say that this is to prepare for

privatization yes, this is great, i am in favor of privatization, but privatize should be sold at the peak at the top and not at the bottom, right now you are actually ripping off state property. not accepted 84 lent, please thank you, dear chairman dear colleagues , maybe we really need to invite our colleague rosy mirov to the parliament and listen to him about his activities mr. sinychenko's predecessor, what happened because colleagues from the accounts chamber's report, i am reading the competitive selection of candidates for filling vacant positions of directors of state-owned enterprises in 2020-21

was conducted rather slowly and inefficiently , the competitive selection of managers of state -owned enterprises with a state property fund was almost never conducted, managers were not appointed but were appointed temporarily exercising their powers on the recommendation of the working group of fund managers that is, in fact, for three years a large number of enterprises were without the leaders artificially brought them to bankruptcy, please, the 84th amendment of the loan was rejected by the committee, please be determined, vote for 50, no decision was made, the amendment was rejected, 82 gerasima accident, please, aria

is partially taken into account, once again, returning to the topic of preparation for privatization, which was said by the honorable chairman of the committee er, in one of your comments, privatization is a normal democratic process, the market economy and european standards are where we are going , but we must not sell at the minimum and all that they know, no, at the minimum there will be a lot of buyers, uh, but buyers who later, due to cunning schemes, will be able not to buy, but to rake in, sell, then when it goes really expensive, and i would really like for us to consider this bill after the war, after that how will the martial law be abolished and the economy will start to revive. instead, we are now once again opening up a lot of opportunities for people who are not clean in their hands , let's at least not do it so frankly

, i ask you to support the 8 2nd amendment of gerasimova aryeva, it is taken into account in part by the auto market are fully taken into account and i ask you to be determined to vote for 54 amendments , the following amendment 85th remains partially taken into account, please, accidents mainly for the state, nevertheless. and today this draft law really opens up a lot of loopholes for people who are impure, and there is even a concrete proof of this - it is the activity

of the previous chairman of the state property fund who was suspected of always causing losses to the state, er, almost 500 er, not half a billion hryvnias, so in this case , let's at least investigate what happened before opening up new opportunities, so that we can still have an answer to the questions posed by the investigation to the ex-fund of the head of the state property, who is wanted today, therefore do not write or at least do not do the 85th amendment gerasim's army is taken into account in part of the auto market, consist in taking full account of the suggestions of the authors

i ask to be determined and vote for 45, the decision was not made, the amendment remains partially taken into account, the following amendments are taken into account, yes, yes, 91st stream , please. thank you, dear chairman. 177 acting directors of state-owned enterprises were appointed to the fund, which does not meet the requirements of the third part of article 65 of the economic code of ukraine. thus , the management of state-owned enterprises were not carried out by acting managers, which was a gross violation. perhaps today it is necessary to first appoint managers of state-owned enterprises and then conduct an audit, conduct an inventory

, find out what assets are in these enterprises, and only after that it can be determined that it can resume operations, it can be privatized or e- e dear colleagues, the 91st amendment of the committee proposal was rejected, i ask you to decide to vote for 47, the decision was not made. 92nd aria , please, it is taken into account in part, yes. in full consideration i once again want to remind you that the most important thing in this text , where the main problems are buried, is the terminology and replacing the termination, which according to the civil code opens up very wide opportunities for various manipulations of manipulations for liquidation and after liquidation already then

accordingly to carry out the sale of the enterprise and its property. but if we do it now today, we will actually cause losses to the state. well , at least we are laying a fairly serious basis for this and the losses to the state that have already been caused according to from the conclusions of the investigation of the former head of the state property fund, this is a confirmation that the gaps remain and this law does not eliminate them in principle, so let's not rush if you but if you rush , then it will turn out that you rushed as usual and then talk about i will learn we did it not the first, and the 92nd gerasimovarium amendment is in the supreme court, the authors insist on full consideration of that dear colleagues

, please decide to vote for 56, no decision was made, the amendment remains supreme, partially 95, again aria is taken into account editorial, please, thank you. i would like to once again draw attention to the fact that privatization, which is being prepared under such conditions , can be very harmful to ukraine , causing losses, because i understand that today we are looking for opportunities to attract additional funds to the budget, but this is an attraction of funds well, no one will sell or sell off their property, you, dear colleagues , will not sell it too cheaply, even if you really need it, so i urge everyone to think once again today about the fact that we are opening up not

only opportunities for sales, but also in general for the capture of state-owned enterprises according to the scheme, if we leave the same and the same definitions that exist now in this bill, i propose throughout the bill to replace termination with liquidation , and this is a very important point 95 gerasimo lareva's amendment taken into account editorial secondary is to the full consideration is given to the proposal for voting, i ask you to determine , vote for me, the microphone for 50, the decision has not been made, the reference remains to the supremacy of poziychuk of the 98th, correction, please, you said that only deviation a of the 94th will be put it is taken into account editorially, we put the supreme editorial situation therefore please 98th