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guests, politicians, diplomats, economists, military people put ukraine the key to how we will live in the next few years put ukraine with volodymyr ostapchuk every sunday at 21:00 on espresso this is donbas realities and today we have an unusual program, we recorded interviews with five former prisoners from russia who were captured by the armed forces of ukraine, two were recruited by the wagner group , three by the ministry of defense of the russian federation, most of them fought in the area bakhmutu alone in the direction of kupyan, we asked them about the so-called service, the details of the assault actions and the attitude to the war here . it is important to remember that in particular, the wagner group is famous and even openly proud of its cruelty, and it is clear that while in captivity, all people can not agree on something or decorate however, this is important evidence

of russian aggression against ukraine, my name is vadim, i have been in captivity since january 18. in total, i have been in prison for almost 15 years, all thefts, thefts , and one carjacking. how old were you when you first sat down? 14, that is, how old are you now? 30 years 31 until 2014 i lived in the crimea and received all the terms in the crimea miracles in the crimea i am from the russian region well, it depicts i was in prison from the rostov region for theft i was in prison for theft i had a sentence there of six years i did not serve four years as if i was in prison for three years my name is sergey, my name is sergey, 76 years old, born in the city of donetsk, ukrainian soviet socialist republic, as a child, he came with his family to the north of yumen oblast in 2020, he was convicted of attempted sale

of narcotics, well, the story there is simple in 2014 year, when did this whole tumult in ukraine and crimea begin? of course , our standard of living has greatly faltered. in this swamp, they made a huge mistake in their life in the forest - this swamp, my name is edik edik, i come from kostroma, i was serving time in a camp for stealing a car, i was from the far

east, serving a sentence for murder he killed a drug dealer and got 10 years. he served three years . it turns out that the punishment remained for you . he explained that the interests of russia and the russian people in donbas are being disrespected, he offered to take part in a photo shoot for this, he promised a pardon, a salary, well, 220 of us agreed. well, during the interview, some a part was filtered out and in the end 120 people went, i already had the motivation. in principle, the defense of donbas was formulated in my head, it was a pardon. that is, it was such a complex motivation. 50 and 50 money did not interest me much, i decided to sign a contract and ended up in donbas at the end of december, found myself on the front line at the beginning of january i was captured at

the beginning of january. i was captured six months later. in six months, they promised amnesty and the same for a month. 200,000 who wanted were interviewed after that. we waited for some time. a week later, they took all of us to mizli for auto parts, to the airport, then flew to rostov by plane and signed a contract agreement , and all of luhansk region went to the entire luhansk region , in general, i went, the seal was signed by the ministry of defense, not wagner, but on the spot i was recorded as wagner on december 17, they talked a week for the meeting there , they gave us everything, arrived in the morning, loaded us up , took us out, changed us, gave us uniforms, took everything, took a hiking bag and took us to luhansk. i didn't even read these pieces of paper, i somehow felt

purple in general, what did i sign there anyway, these pieces of paper can be redone i never read the opera, what does he sign and everything was taken to the training ground, we were all trained, we were all trained, this month we had training in photographing training and everything was brought to the school they visited soledar , they drove us to the front, everything is simple, in general, there is nothing, as if to invent such a fable, that is why i say that i am not afraid to say so and tell me to hide nothing. how did it happen? how did it happen, a representative came to us, who did they come to us, representatives of the colony, if they offered, well, there is a chance to go, some of our army , russia, military personnel also go to protect civilians from the nazis, to protect - wrote to the president for pardon, the president pardoned , sent six months, had to serve and rehabilitate, return completely

i didn't go to my daughter's because of the money, because my daughter was born small, she is now three years old , four, well, and accordingly, i should sit. i would have left , she would have been big, she said, who are you, uncle? accordingly, she is sitting, she would have already said more, who is that uncle, well, the representatives, the representatives, just the representatives came once, the representatives of the wagner pvk came the second time , the ministry of defense came and everything was just representatives who do not tell specifically, no one there does not imagine that i am there lyosha so-and-so, so- and-so, i came with such and such a purpose to recruit you , i am simply a representative of such a company. these are the conditions you want, yes, yes. by agreement, everything turned out to be a little different, not as it was presented. that everything is fine there, everything turned out to be much worse and scarier, and

as it was presented, well, what will not happen there , you will not be immediately thrown to the front, you will be there in the yellow zone, you will be fired upon, you will see what happens but this did not happen, we were immediately thrown to the front, we had approximately one and a half months of training at the bases , camps of the luhansk region, somewhere in the forests , not in populated areas, we lived in dugouts , shooting ranges nearby and small arms domovikam us friend are ready for exactly stormoey kamennost internal lagerem training camp they taught shooting tactics mainly tactics shooting mainly stb tactics how long did they teach two weeks move two move in twos threes fives deploy columns shoot from any positions move study teach well teach directly normal they invest

in you, that really serious guys can turn out there, serious guys, you were trained there by personnel russian officers or something like that well, instructors, they don’t introduce anything, you know how it’s done very competently, you won’t dig in, that’s how much you know, that’s all you tell, because you don’t know anything, and that’s why you tell us all all the moments where you were there , at which training ground, you say without fear because you won't say anything, where he is in the steppe somewhere, who taught you there, no name is known, no name, you don't know anything , you're just an instructor, the thing is, i'm not

getting my bearings well, i've never been to ukraine, i've never left our region, in principle, so i i do not know they brought all this in trucks, put it on a plane, brought it to one place, flew there, loaded it on a bus, brought it again to another at night, loaded it into one truck , kamaz or ural, i don’t know, but the point is that the truck was transported, and that’s how it all happened until the very moment when it was over was unloaded by loggers in the forest, where are you, what are you in, the commanders are the same as we are , the commanders are the same, among the convicts the bulk is someone with some combat experience, that is, he participated in some chechen operations of some peacekeeping missions well, of course, there were also commanders who, well, just because of their authority, reached some commanding positions , those had worse luck, those had better luck, well , the same ordinary prisoners were excluded from the beginning, all of us when, uh, all of us, when we were recruited, we were told

that you will be in the storm troop, you will be stormtroopers, that is, you will all go to us here. how are you, uh, in the december kontselo, uh, he got into the settlement of kordynovka and at the end of december he got to the settlement of kurdyumivka, where he was captured during the clash. that is, we went to storming the position behind jesus had the task of advancing at night for 500 meters. we advanced 70 meters further. we came under crossfire. the group was destroyed. the group commander was wounded. i was captured . i was on the front line. for three days, they took me to the extreme position there, the flank was tasked with defending it, simply carrying round-the-clock duty there. but on the fifth day , the task was already set for the group commander

to move forward through the forest plantation, he did it forward landing how how first minutes of seconds in captivity how everything was until it was very scary it was simple here in myasovaya it was very scary it was very scary just two words it was scary for my own life for beating abuse is possible because in our country it was said a lot that the ukrainian side does not spare prisoners of war yes, of course, the reception was well, we were enemies, after all, this is how it turned out. unfortunately, we became enemies, so in principle i agree that such a thing is not possible in war, then of course when we arrived in kharkiv to the pre-trial detention center, well, there we just ate and waited for our fate in the camp in lviv. well the same plus, they still started to work, they arrived here and we are waiting for our fate, when the exchange will happen, or maybe it won’t happen

, we don’t know , we stopped. for further instructions, a machine gun will be fired at you, do not pay attention, this is a small group sitting and that's all. i think that i have never run so surely in my life, they just gathered us, sent everything, led us to one dugout, and when we went in, they showed us a piece of paper on it was drawn like this at 45°, it says run there, there will be a trench shorter, take a dugout there, and everything is there to place the chips and wait for further instructions with the weapons, there were only machine guns, machine guns, and all the 74th , there was nothing else, no grenade launchers, no grenades, nothing, six each in the store, someone even had an incomplete one, and everything was sent in the dark , nothing, not once, not even gadgets, we didn’t have anything when it blossomed

in the morning , they came according to my opinion. we don't know anything at all about the three of them, they are in captivity, there is no way back for them. there was no option to return, so why was there no way back? well, i think that well, i think that they would not have come back. problems well, i think that well, i think that they would have started shooting if they saw that we were going back, well, this is my personal opinion, that is, they told you that there was no way back, or what

? i understood that to the whole group that we were simply pushed there for a short time like that and that was it. there were no commanders, we had no one, then a young boy came to find out what kind of scumbag we were, he ran there in broad daylight to ask why we were not answering and he didn't even know what we don't have any walkie-talkies or gadgets to make us feel somehow, we didn't have anything, they just threw everything there and threw it to the very rear . where were the armed forces of ukraine from all sides of the armed forces of ukraine, only behind there was one dugout of ours , and all you said was that someone is here for you said take these positions who commanded you and who gave you instructions on where to go? well, he didn't introduce

himself . there was a change of boots, well, it was quite big and heavy, he had something to eat, i had something lying there, and i put it on myself , and we follow him, i follow the one who led us, i follow him with the second bag, and i tell him brotherly heart , where are we going, and he is like that well it turns out that it is not clear, let's go to work, i say which one to work you see that i am a backpack, this smurdy is called and you see that i took a smurdy with me, he is like that, throw it away you don't need it dead man, i realized that something is already going wrong well, i threw it away in landing, i carried out my things and we everyone left because, well, i guess i threw away all my belongings, threw away everything and went around the house and still took this position. we still took this position. there was no one there, no shooting . in the 120s, the tank began to work

they hung in the birds well, they didn't get out anywhere from the dugout, then they stuck the muzzle in there from above, soaked the fisher, threw grenades and surrendered to the fisher, who is it? well, someone is coming, well, this is the slang of the prisoners. six people were soaked, they did not remain alive, but all three hundred had to surrender. there were no options, there were no others . i wanted to live. we had to surrender . we had kak obych. dig dig trenches and keep everything storms no just take a position dig in and everything is the same then that’s how it turned out they took a position everything was team and what was there exactly nothing happened when this position was taken but they started to take it shelling came from the other side not

from this position and nearby as i understood and that's how it turned out, the shootout was wounded, everything was over, the bull was taken prisoner, finish everything, it's better taken prisoner, it turns out how we were captured , we have a rotation, we went, we had a rotation , we went to yakovlevka near bakhmut there is little i knew the area because of this, i was captured, i got lost, how did it turn out? i went to the position , i thought that there were ours, and there were the armed forces . how can i explain it ? we were delayed. by me, the others there left him. likewise, the rest left there. war in nature is a scary thing. war in nature is a terrible thing. and in nature , it is scary. i am not one of the brave people, but what i saw is that i stayed there for a little while in this order, and i was

scared . this in kind i thought i understood that there is an ass full, but i did not expect to see such an ass there in nature, everything is in ruins, the people are dead, these plantations are simply demolished, there are no trees there, they are all like this, all the fields are like this. this is in the tears of these. this is a piper. you won't pick up such colossal plasters. i didn't even imagine that they could be here in parts in one place. such colossal losses of so many corpses. i didn't even imagine that they could be in one place at once. here i served in the wagner pvk, it's not like that. dozens of them hundreds of corpses are thousands of corpses, you're walking, you're crawling because to someone he was just a human . here i have eight dead people from the group, and the group is only 10 people, imagine the scale, oh, the scale , go back, go back is not an option , when you go on the attack, there is a lot of talk about

what they shoot their own, there is such a thing, well, i personally have not encountered this, but the rumors must be such, but how justified i am not ready to talk about it, because i personally did not encounter this , because the universes became numerous. there are all because the history of the ussr during the great patriotic war says that the former prisoners do not have a rosy reception . and in the homeland, of course, there are fears and apprehensions, we do not know what will happen. i do not know what will happen. ammunition without weapons, maybe the contract will end and we will go home, we don’t know, we can only assume that everything is in the hands of god, as he will decide, so it will be, we don’t know, we can only purchase because it is in the hands of god, as he

will decide, so and so it will be. well, that’s it hardly me оправит конечно потому что он еще well, in principle , i'm unlikely to be sent to prison, of course, because i'm not, in principle, how to say. i'm not even an ordinary fighter, i didn't know anything, what could i tell, i just didn't even see, accordingly, that i didn't know anything told me for what or to kill me on the front yes it is possible it is possible they will send it of course each of us sits and worries you know of course every one of us sat we worry about a decision i don't feel sorry for the people i feel sorry for the decision i don't feel sorry for the people it's a pity what from this side what from our side yes for his own i don't regret the decision, but if now i have the option to jump out of this, my contract has not yet ended, i will not take up the weapon again, i will try to do it, and if it doesn't work

, take it again, i will ask. that's all for the second time. today, well, puck, asking the question for the second time, how would i like this chance? i would say, god bless you, thank you for giving me a chance, but i would hardly sign because i had seen the war, i would look at the other side of the coin , what i i can't go back to my daughter this step will turn out that i will not return at all, already being in a straight line, of course, watching tv in lviv already being a prisoner. the reflection is what kind of mirror a person looks at, only there he looks and here we try to hit each other and this is a big trouble for all big losses big destruction are they worth it of course they are not worth it i am sorry that i am here what is this

a mistake was made. i am sorry that our political elites were not able to come to an agreement at the negotiating table and solve all the problems without this war. well, as they say , we have to start with myself. i have an opportunity, only the only opportunity is simply not to take up arms anymore, god willing gives such an opportunity, i will not take it again if they force me, well, again , i am looking at how to force it if at gunpoint, although this is also possible. decide, but i would not like to fight anymore. well, my comrade who died, he also left the patriotic feelings, he generally has three days left until the end of the term, only three days before the end of the term, but he went to this war , the propaganda machine usually does its job, what can we say, we have 70-80%. i'm not ready to say the exact percentage ratio so directly, but this is roughly how the population believes that we are fighting for the holy cause, we are fighting for the right cause, because the power of propaganda is quite powerful.

well, i will say yes if there is any legal possibility don't go to this war, take advantage of it, don't go to fight with some legal opportunity, don't go to this freedom , you have roads, don't go to fight, here 's a russian firebrand, vani are lying, he is still lying today in the bakhmut region, still fighting from 20 to 30 thousand of yesterday of prisoners, this is the latest estimate of american general mark milli, recruitment began in august of last year, and it is difficult to estimate the real scale of the killed and wounded among them. obviously, these are tens of thousands of people, but it is also true that this

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, draw your own conclusions frankly and impartially greetings, dear viewers, on the air of the espresso tv channel, the studio program , we will analyze the most important events of this week and how they will affect the unfolding of further scenarios, our guests, the colonel of the british of the retired army glen grant and andriy piontkovsky, a political scientist who is in washington, will begin our analysis, a retired british army colonel, a well-known military expert, glen grand grand, glory to ukraine, glend got save the king, glory to the heroes , well, i would like you to start our conversation with a strange but large-scale leak, we we understand that the russian special services and the russian mass media are beginning to speculate very actively on this , but in any case, we see how worried the divorce community is both in the

united states and on the european continent. how do you they said in general this is a rather difficult matter, especially judging by the actions of the americans after the information was made public, first of all, all of this seems to be the truth, because there was correct information, which is very similar to the briefing that was prepared for someone from the special services, a kind of briefing or update not only about ukraine but also about the world in general , it reminds me very much of the appropriate briefing for someone who has recently taken over the powers , such briefings are held for those who are just starting to work in the state department, the white house, the pentagon, and so on, such a briefing about the current position on a global scale, and it would have been so if the data indicated in the documents had not been falsified, or given to the russians, for example, so some numbers and information on the pages about ukraine were changed to make its position look worse and russia

better, i cannot comment on pages about others allies and about other regions of the world because i haven't seen any of them, i've only read the pages about ukraine, but it's obvious that they're not relevant, since the information presented there is several months old, who is the statement of the british ministry of defense that a lot of information there is not true, in fact this information is not true because it is out of date. and this leak will undoubtedly upset the alliance, which is transferring the information to the usa, this is a blow to countries such as great britain, australia - new zealand, which have close ties in intelligence and now they will think about whether it is possible to transfer information to america at all so that it is not leaked anywhere, so this is definitely not a pleasant story, i think the fact that america is spying on certain of its allies on which she doesn't need to be spied on. she can just ask questions and get