[000:00:00;00] that it actually has a very strong effect on comments in the public space in the expert environment, it also has a strong effect on the comments made by our representatives of our political leadership. well , it also affects the cautious comments made by representatives of our military leadership yes, that is, well, we must also understand that this is the case. well, hmm , let's say it's possible, we would like to have more specifics, but brothers, the specifics are related, first of all, to the fact that we do not want to give the enemy e- is an idea of ​​what and when will take place at the front and the second moment is what is actually the final decision about the beginning of the ukrainian counteroffensive and the directions of the ukrainian counteroffensive, they will be made with maximum reference to a specific moment in time and to a specific situation in - in the fact that it concerns hostilities, that is, the optimal moment in time and

the optimal circumstances will be chosen, which will play primarily on the ukrainian side, so it is very difficult to enumerate these things in advance. very good considering that we understand that our enemy is collecting information not only from closed sources, but very actively and aggressively monitors everything that happens in the public space and all the information that can be obtained from open sources, mr. trasa about open sources and the right hand the enemy introduced an electronic notification system of military summonses to the military commissariat, and it seems that british intelligence agents predict that in this way the russians are preparing for a protracted war, well , like the afghan war, or rather the first svitova, and i will quote dmytro lenka, a member of the parliament of the previous convocation, who has been fighting since the first days of this great war, and then in the first relatively speaking of the 14th year, the war

he fought, the next, we found ourselves up to our ears in the first world war of the current trench in terms of its content and essentially nothing they are no different from the trenches of verdun, well, this is the biggest, the biggest battle of the first world war, so copters were added overhead, communication is a bit of technology , if you don't want to become a character in a shameful video, we were sent here unprepared get ready, friends, without waiting for a message from the military commissariat, everyone will have to write dmytro olimko and it’s hard not to agree, we are ready for a protracted war. and i think, well, my personal opinion is that what the russians are implementing such electronic notification systems is possible, and ukraine should take a closer look at this , listen more carefully and implement i'm asking for my personal system. do you know that the key role here should still be played by the fact that we

see a fundamentally different approach to the war from the russians, who are really stuck in in this reality in this reality of the first world war it is possible the second world war there are places where they fought and so on where, in principle, the russian army relies solely on its own numerical superiority and is absolutely not concerned about the quality of training and the quality of weapons well, and so on, just as if there is a calculation that by turning on the horde mode , it will be possible to exhaust the enemy and thus achieve victory, we are fighting in such a transitional period and between this and the former soviet paradigm because we should not kill the armed forces of ukraine so or else they come from the soviet union and one way or another our strategic operational doctrines they were also based on this is more of such an approach well, actually, now with the acquisition of western modern high-precision weapons a-a we are forced to switch to including western input standards war, these western standards provide not so much the main emphasis on the quantity there, but

the main emphasis on the quality, on the accuracy of the strikes and on the massiveness of these strikes, on our ability to concentrate our angular power as accurately as possible and with the maximum intensity at those key points that will allow, relatively speaking, to break the number of the enemy's offensive or his defensive position and thus simultaneously inflict blows on logistics , yes, in this way, to bleed the enemy, who in fact, can we be greatly outnumbered by these operations which really in time they are protracted and because it is clear that uh, well, if dealing with an enemy who struck you prevails, in order even to besiege him, you also have to make a full effort and all this requires time and costs on our part as well, but the need for some super massive mobilization under such conditions is actually minimal because well , there is no need to reject it completely, but if we are talking about the fact that we are moving to

nato standards not only by changing there, for example, from our rzzvr e-e to the soviet-made ones to the same farmers or m-270 yes or was able to 29 on the m16 this is only one first step let's say so because well, relatively speaking, being able to control western weapons is not the same as being able to fight with western weapons is necessary here a change at the level of the senior officers is needed here, a change in general in conservative approaches. and this change actually dictates to us what in fact, well, there is a great urgent need to copy this russian experience, which they really, well, it is their demand , so to speak, the circumstances. yes they need to have a mechanism where they can gnaw the largest number of their own population as quickly as possible. we are preparing and equipping them there, and so on, and so use them in the meat grinder they call

itself is a special military operation, our approach is the most professional army, this is the most technically equipped and motivated forces that have the ability to surgically concentrate maximum firepower to destroy this potential of the enemy, so in principle, if you think that we here it is better to place the emphasis a little differently, er, of course , observe what the russians are doing, but the main emphasis should be on not just moving physically. all the same, to devote to certain conceptual moments, to make changes in our operational strategic ones in order to finally fully utilize the full potential of the western weapons that we have already received and that we will receive in the future. about the fact that their army is now in such a state that they lack the equipment for the war against ukraine. it is because of the sanctions that

we can say about the potential of their technical technical mountain is falling into a pit, this fall began a long time ago and actually well, we see the results of this fall are due to the fact that the russians are forced to take out of preservation yes. that is, there about a month ago, we were all a-a getting there with this t-54 t-55 yes, there are 60- year-old ones from the far east eh- they were sent madly to the west on the territory of russia, and on these russian propaganda shows they began to tell that we would remove the t-34 from the pedestals and uh , another tank fist was created there, and when this means nato tanks already if not, then the russians will have t-34. well, they are there for themselves tishat well, that is, we see that in fact the russian anti-aircraft missile, and of course, it did not fall . yes, if it continues to work at the maximum and at the peak of its capabilities, and in the end it produces a serious number of weapons, but the biggest problem for the russians now

is that the speed of that how do they lose these weapons, they are absolutely unchanged with the speed of production of new weapons, that is, the russians , the russian army loses weapons much faster than the anti-aircraft missile system more sanctions are starting to appear. and even the weapons that the russian anti-tank missile systems are currently producing are not as technologically advanced as those that we knocked out at least there in the first six months of the war against the russians, that is, even those tanks that now uh, they're leaving uh, well, let's say these russian tank factories, so basically they don't have enough modern optics or modern means of communication , uh, guidance , and so on. letters well, you can send her there with a dozen more such cans

accordingly, yes, they will cause that damage, of course, because there are many of them, but in the end it is far from the quality of weapons that, firstly , the russians had at the beginning of the war, and secondly, it is absolutely no comparison with the quality of weapons that we have well, that's right. thank you for your attention. the expert on international security and democratic initiatives was our guest in this part of the broadcast. thank you very much for the professional analysis of the situation. well, despite the fact that kyiv region was freed from russian buyers about a year ago, explosive objects are found here quite often and now tatiana litvinova filmed a good story about it , let's see it , because it is important for life, billions of dollars and tens of years are needed for the demining of ukraine. there are

reports of uh, extraordinary cases when people are injured or killed by landmines. and with unexploded ammunition, kyiv region was freed from russian they are often defused, in particular, the bomb technicians of the national police are ready. about a hundred rounds of ammunition and two anti-tank mines were defused . all of this was found in the kyiv region during the last week. in the last week, we only have two cases when people almost got hit by landmines, one of the men was from

the uzhhorod district he went into the forest and came across an anti-tank grenade, there are four more anti-tank mines nearby, he almost died , and one of the farmers in the brovary district went to cultivate the land and came across a centipede next to the exchange, we went another 10, that is, the danger continues, the police and the state emergency service emphasize that citizens should refrain from walking in the forest area, despite the fact that we already have a year after the deoccupation of the kyiv region in three districts of the kyiv region. we understand that now there will be spring holidays, that summer will come, people will go to barbecues and look for a place for picnics, and we call on all of them to be as careful as possible, especially dangerous anti-personnel mines and camouflaged for the environment both brown and green. as you can see, if you put them in the grass, what is green, what is this useful

, it is very well camouflaged with leaves and grass, they are almost invisible in this grass, reservoirs that are actively used for recreation , it is like gostomel bucha irpin, they have been tested the specialists also built services with it, but we understand that there are also many water areas in the territory of the region and in the territory of other regions , there are thousands of square kilometers, which are practically impossible to check. ukraine is called an invasion of russia, these statistics was already so alarming in terms of critical statistics such as the number of casualties and explosive objects separately. i am not saying that there were casualties in the armed

conflict, namely the cancellation and gnp ukraine was , until february 24, in fourth place after afghanistan, well, this indicates that the problem colossal, now we understand the scale. let's say these tragedies have increased there 20 times, if not more equipment, primarily engaged in demining infrastructure objects , all objects were completely demined life support infrastructure, social facilities, they are all checked on this road, er, they are all checked and safe, but we understand that the forest areas are quite extensive and it is impossible to check them for 60 years , so far there is no need to check hectares of forests because there are still fields, let's say so, there are still the same territories of kharkiv, kherson, mykolaiv region

, where, in fact, there are ongoing hostilities, constant shelling, therefore, let's just say , intensified pyrotechnic calculations, which include specialists from all corners of ukraine, they they work there, i.e. now units of the state emergency service and the police are engaged in operational demining humanitarian demining will be the next stage of safety and quality assurance provided by the second type of demining which is called a humanitarian investigation which lasted longer during which it has certain procedures and which is performed only by certified operators the operational activities of which are also monitored by the state, how they do it, how long it takes for humanitarian demining, which will allow the territories to be considered de-occupied it is difficult to say safe today, we are talking about tens of years, everything depends on the duration of hostilities. also , according to the latest estimates, the financing will cost 37

billion dollars, mined fields are also hitting the economy, which is already weakened by the war, and the complex demining procedure takes a long time, not all of them now they still understand the complexity of this problem and not everyone understands what is necessary . sometimes you just have to wait. still costs the health and lives of our citizens if you notice an explosive or suspicious object, there are three simple rules: do not approach, do not touch

, call 101. changes and other explosive objects , we will continue our broadcast at 1:45 p.m. now we will talk about this and other topics with our next guest and the mountains are milked by an expert and a series of ukraine, e-e, we welcome you christ is risen ok, hello, 600, officially, the statistics give this number. 600 ukrainians have already died from explosive objects in ukraine . how big is this problem now? i remember you said after the liberation of kyiv region that it would take 10 years for demining, what can you say already a year after the liberation of a well, let's start with the fact that almost every week there are several cases of detonation of explosive objects precisely in the regions where active hostilities were conducted in the occupied

territories statistics unfortunately, and of course, our path to, let's say, complete security will be very, very difficult and long, this decade, well, for now , i can say exactly the date when the last projectile or dangerous object will be removed from the earth. since the first world war, there are such finds and they explode as people die, not to mention modern modern weapons and the scale that is happening now, and it is happening now , according to statistics, that is, almost every day every day, almost 20,000 or more munitions are released from one side or another, and er, about 25 percent of them fail for various reasons , er, that is, they remain in the ground, and these are thousands of shells of explosive objects in

other rockets, etc. they remain in the ground, this is despite the fact that these territories are still named, that is, of course , on the contact line in the occupied territories, where in the occupied territories, this is a very big and very powerful problem igor. please give me some recommendations for our viewers, we know that easter is always a time when you want to go out into nature somewhere, well, the weather there is different, it seems that it is not very cold, it is possible that people will drag you somewhere into the forest or to the coastal areas, are there any recommendations on how to behave? is it better not to go out into nature at all now, especially where there was an occupation or where enemies have passed of course, everything depends on the locality , that is, on the local authorities, in the local administration , they must prove to people the same danger, where it is not possible to walk, where it has already been demined, that is, such information should be either on official

websites or posted somewhere near the village of city councils, that is, so that people know where they can be, where they can’t be, where it’s safe, where it’s dangerous, and of course, to install appropriate signs in dangerous places, signs that are approved, that is, people must follow the rules, first of all, don’t touch these signs, don’t knock them down to endure because this is the life of other people who will end up in this dangerous territory . well, of course, don't burn incense in the territory where the local authorities forbid you to go, because the territory is mined very, very carefully. dense and therefore of course, if someone there goes somewhere in a dangerous area to enter , it can be a tragedy. what are the most popular mines that are the most

strewn with them? they are installed by miners and it is actually impossible to see because they are in the ground carefully mined practically. this is what they are intended for, that is, but there are also mines, plus they are also dangerous because they migrate from the air , remote mining and on the line of contact there are already a large number of such cases, i.e. in all populated areas near which hostilities are currently taking place, er, there are already a large number of them scattered, and i noticed that if we see at least a minupeleuska, that is, it looks like a palm, the size of a palm up to 14 cm eh you can't touch such a mine, and you also have to remember that there will be tens of hundreds around . even if we don't see such mines, they can be in the grass, leaves, pollen , mud, sand, water, and even on trees . there will be a lot of them around. number

therefore, if we see at least one such mine, then usually there will be a large number of them around, and this should also be taken into account during our own, let's say, dangerous behavior or safe behavior, therefore, we advise to go to the opposite block, that is, to return to to their tracks and from a safe distance already mark the area, i.e. do not mark the immediate vicinity of a dangerous object well, first of all, because they can trigger at any moment that is , we do not know what exactly can fix them , and secondly, in some mine is the liquidator itself and they can also work precisely when we are going to walk nearby and put some markers and thirdly it is that there may be other mines nearby and of course that is dangerous so let's look at our tracks and already from a safe distance

further 100 m, we can mark the direction of these explosions, dangerous objects. well, call. of course, by number, by word, yes, by word, they react to the movement around them, and there are some sensors like that, but the liquidator itself. this means the one that is inserted into she is also a minus after a certain time, it itself explodes, that is, in independence, there is someone nearby or there is no one. help here, there is another one. well, it is an insidious thing that this same liquidator can be somewhere, well, it may not work in a timely manner, because as a rule, it should work before 72 hours somewhere, but there may be some delay somewhere and it may take a few more days, but it will work. of course , this must also be taken into account and do not stand near explosive objects , that is, in a few seconds. as soon as we saw it, we must immediately leave in the reverse

the direction from where they came as much as possible following their tracks, what is the most polluted region, at least the region of ukraine, in your opinion now and now all the regions well, of course, the most polluted are those where they were fought for a long time , the longer we say the time, what kind of hostilities, then of course you would there is more pollution, the territory is like kherson region, uh, it is also uh, donetsk region, luhansk region, that is, there in those places, uh, zaporizhzhia, that is, where active active hostilities are currently taking place. they are usually so polluted by these bulges with safe objects that are not which are also in the ground and, in principle, due to the fact that active hostilities are being carried out, demining these areas is dangerous, of course , they remain in large numbers.

uh, and of course, for this you need a lot , as was said above, a lot of time, a lot of money and a lot of people's equipment, that is, of course, this is a problem of a lot of energy, let's say a very big problem for you, mr. mushroom, are all the mines possible to detect with a metal detector whether there are any plastic mines that are not identified by a metal detector well, as a rule , even plastic mines have some metal parts, let's say special metal detectors, that is, some use them directly by sappers, that is, of course they will see them uh, that is, there will be no problems with this. we have there is a powerful, let’s say, the identifiers of these fireplaces. of course , we will be able to see how we predict or metal detectors. well, i used to use them. only these black archaeologists will be

a popular product on the commercial market, yes. i would say services after the end of the war and possibly during the war. well, i wouldn’t say so. well, first of all, they are household metal detectors, they are the same mines that, er, in which, let’s say , metal particles may not be seen, er , that is, specialists work there. they work with professional equipment, that's why, in principle, they should look for some shells in the ground somewhere. well , i didn't see any common sense in this sense, because of course, people went to the forest for barbecues in order to make this meadow somewhere. will sit to use first, walk around with a metal detector, and then i briefly ask, and then they rested for this, yes, for this, you need to have experience. those who have experience and already have metal detectors, so of course, the average citizen who will take it as if he ordered it, well, he can. ihor molodan

, expert of the association of sappers of ukraine . thank you very much for this important information on our broadcast. next is another documentary mini-film about the bell tower of the latin cathedral . we are watching the ancient knyazhy lviv for hundreds of years. history, architectural sights, the originality of existence, the aroma of coffee and the lviv rain, and more lviv is the city, the capital of ukrainian churches, more than 110 christian churches alone, and we decided to focus on the stories of the lviv

bells , in order to climb the tower, the bell ringers climb 151 steps every time, the latin cathedral of the assumption virgin mary, one of the oldest in ukraine, this temple was built much longer than human life lasts, and therefore no master builder did not wait for the fruits of his labor in the finished in the form of passing the baton to the next generation of creators from the gothic through the renaissance and the baroque, and then to the elements of classicism and modernism , the lviv cathedral in the 1500s was significantly damaged during the largest fire in the entire history of the city, and

the then latin archbishop joined the cathedral in its reconstruction bernard vilche, having donated his entire estate for this, with the help of the bishop , cast new bells, one of them was named bernard, one of the lviv bell ringers, petro popovych, tells us about him around seven a ton weighs a bell tower to cover such a mass, the ingenious designers and craftsmen of that time, not having computers to calculate , calculate the manufacture of the system of suspension fasteners and mass advantages. even one person can maintain the pace of the

rank. to rest the other two bell towers of the cathedral to support the big bell, we ring two more with you, they are different in mass by a ton , the average bell weighs 300 kg and gives a bright crossing sound complementing the main third bell is nice with the previous very small one. it is a high intervention that complements the harmony in the new chord, however. it is worth paying attention not only to the zones, but also to the resonant block of the male bass that emits sound through the window but also deflects the flow of hum. and now it is exclusive you will hear the melody

of the cathedral bells in our next programs, we will tell about the most famous lviv churches, the legends and stories of their bells, don't miss christ the resurrection lasts 417 days , the full-scale war of russia against ukraine in oteri news on espresso in the studio of anzhelika sezonenko, nothing holy, the occupiers hit the temple with heavy artillery in nikopol,