[000:00:00;00] federation, today we are already much closer to this process because, uh, if six months ago, or maybe 9 months ago, we didn't understand ah, let's say so until the end, somewhere positions, whether it is in the legal plane or it is in the plane of political will already somehow today it is already clear that the coalition of states on mirena for the victory of ukraine is definitely for the defeat of russia and in that case if there is a winner and a defeat and if there is an aggressor and today ukraine is a victim of aggression, then of course this aggression must be compensated legal subtleties in what way it should be done. i think that it will certainly be legal proceedings. for now, i do not know what scenario can be chosen, or whether it will be a separate court. or it will be several legal proceedings, but it is for sure after the legal proceedings , which will be the basis for the fact that those

acts which are the property of the russian federation will be transferred to ukraine for its reconstruction, so i think that in the short term we can already count on it , but there is a certain nuance here, you know, i don't often talk about it, but today i'll just say ah it will be very important to analyze a certain sequence of how such large resources will be allocated and distributed , since ukraine suffered directly after the aggression during the aggression, while , for example, it is possible that some companies started a stationary policy or exited from some markets a or, for example, companies that lost their incomes due to the fact that they supported the coalition of the state , well, let's say, lost business and their interests in russia . i would like ukraine to be here

in the first place in the first place. indirectly, a-a suffered losses in connection with russia's aggression against ukraine, it was next, not the other way around, tell me what is happening now in connection with this, the hryvnia, why did you change it , it is now strengthening and how long will it last? and in general, does it help of the economic situation, er, i will say yes, first of all, it is still worth noting here that the hryvnia exchange rate is officially fixed by the national bank today at the mark a-a 36-56 but if we are talking about er, interbank or even cash exchange rate of the hryvnia, of course he today strengthens several is for this factors, firstly, we are after the 22nd year, today already in the 23rd year, we are returning to gradually returning to a certain stabilization. i call the 22nd year a year of shocks and, in fact , the state's reaction to those shocks, today in the 23rd year, it is no longer

shocks and this is already a return to the return only to the stabilization of the situation . if we talk about the exchange rate of the hryvnia to foreign currencies , there is no exception here either. seasonality to wars constantly clashed with us, usually the exchange rate of the hryvnia to foreign currency increased closer to the new year, and then from the new year to the summer it decreased and again there was seasonality. by the bank, this is also a very powerful signal that can open up additional financing for ukraine, and this is the indicator that we have been talking about for the last 10 years, since after the orange revolution of dignity, we have already been talking about this, that cooperation

with the international monetary fund - this is an indicator and you know the third point, even though i live in kyiv, i draw your attention to the fact that more and more people are returning to ukraine , and it seems to me that this also partially affects these moments, that is, people are returning with more and certain consumption savings what kind of people, for example, went abroad with them during the acute phase of the war and now they are returning to ukraine, of course, there were easter holidays, which traditionally people spend more than er than the usual period of time and return it seems to me that it is after all return to seasonal partly to seasonal brands thank you mr. andrii andrii dupas - president of the association of ukrainian banks was with us on the air, we talked about the situation related to the ukrainian economy and the ukrainian financial system , now we will move to the caucasus and we will talk about it in the last parts of our conversations with you hmm uh erkhan nuriyev, a member of the ukrainian officers' union and a participant in the first karabakh war in the 90s of the last century, we are in touch

greetings panel khan good day to you and easter i congratulate you. it’s a holiday. so, i congratulate you on ramadan. there is a new aggravation between armenia and azerbaijan. how do you assess this situation, and it is not happening in karabakh, it is happening on the sovereign territories of two countries. actually, people are dying in the border areas. servicemen of azerbaijan and armenia, how to stop this dangerous and unnecessary conflict, in principle, for no one. well, i believe that there will be no great war before the great war, neither to armenia, nor to russia, and now i am not ready, and this kind of provocation will continue until those there will be an alliance treaty between armenia and azerbaijan, which the russian federation does not allow at the moment, and if iran intervenes in this game, the karabakh game

. so , there will be such provocations from time to time until the two nations come to an agreement, but on the other hand both countries have allied relations with the russian federation , and armenia is a member of the eurasian economic union. specially came to moscow to sign an alliance agreement with vladimir putin, this happened on february 23 , 2022. why can't countries, each of which is elite-level connected with the russian political elite , agree among themselves if these agreements should theoretically be agreed to be interested moscow yes, it is true that on february 22, 2022, aliyev signed a soviet treaty with putin. well, i don't think so, and armenia is gradually

moving away from russia because the faction of the current prime minister is falling armenia, mr. pashinyan's armenia, the armenian parliament ratified the rome statute. unfortunately, azerbaijan has not done anything so far today. it would be better if it were different. the fact is that 82% of the russian armenians consider the war to be a soy war , that is, a civil war. the majority of the azerbaijani population of the people support ukraine in this war, and the government since 1993, when the government in which i worked was overthrown by the current, well, not the current russian federation, by the special services of the russian federation together with the iranian special services now they have influence on the azerbaijani government because of this

, so far we have what we have. as i said in classic, agree that between the overthrow of the government of abolf zalchubey and all these pro-russian forces led by colonel soret huseyner, as far as i remember i also understand that the current azerbaijani government, headed by sin maliyev, is still a big fc in the political distance, one way or another , i don't know if this can be considered progress, but it can be called distance. new, yes, yes. well, times are different, and everyone is waiting for one word: the fate of these nations in general , the post-soviet space, is actually decided in ukraine. well , what is happening these days around the russian aggression against ukraine, and all the nations are watching with great

hope that finally, the colonizer, it will get what it deserves and there is a distance, of course, there is a huge distance, azerbaijan has stood on its feet, azerbaijan has reliable partners in the form of, say, the same turkey , israel, pakistan, and in particular ukraine has, in the sense of azerbaijan, no longer the same weak that it was in the 90s, azerbaijan is now developed to a certain extent. another thing is that the country is authoritarian, it is governed by authoritarian regimes, it is a regime , so to speak, well, the difference is huge , of course. a decision was made in moscow to overthrow president gaidar, the left met with gaidar maliyev himself and heard two different messages from hussein, who told me that he would do everything possible to ensure that

azerbaijan was loyal to moscow's allies and heydar aliyev, the father of the current president, told me that he would do everything possible so that russia would not be able to establish control over azerbaijan's resources, and how many years later can we say that this mission has been accomplished? does russia still have a chance? partly accomplished for azerbaijan, azerbaijan will not remain not the reverse process. i repeated that azerbaijan has reliable partners that can even turn its back on me . i remember the words of maksymovich chornovola. reliable friends in this case, azerbaijan managed to surround itself and make and make a normal army , that is, azerbaijanis for 30 years, well, 27 years from 1993 to 2000, 2,000 to 2000, worked

on this for 27 years to form, well, make an army, and now azerbaijan has a tall, powerful m-m, i am a military man, a former, if the person who was responsible for the defense sector in azerbaijan , that is, in karabakh, i speak as well as and tell me, sir , exactly how she is partial azerbaijan is what the late leaderalism said she is partial partially withdrew, but for now, let's say that again, everything rests on the war, er, the russian-ukrainian war . please tell me, er, to what extent, in your opinion, turkey is interested in armenia and azerbaijan coming to an agreement, i think that the stability of er, the south caucasus in particular is interested or in the caucasus and to some extent it is clear what is there well, everything will depend on who wins the elections

in turkey, a lot also depends on this , well, turkey is interested . transport, communication agreements with the army, she cannot do this because of the brotherhoods, so to speak, you know two states, one nation through azerbaijan, turkey is interested , she wants to be a leader, well, she is actually a leader in the south caucasus well, we will see what happens, well, i repeat again that very everyone is looking at ukraine now, in particular, and the government of azerbaijan too. and if we talk about the interests of the veteran, the veteran is now trying to regulate relations with azerbaijan, they are conducting

a process there, what is iran interested in? the misfortune of our region and the shiite one, a large part of 6.5 of the population of azerbaijan knows everything, iran does not even hide it now, iran occasionally makes information bros, and in general everything else is threatened if turkey or israel were not next to the azerbaijanis rimbaud a long time ago did what m-m is doing uh-uh the fact is that uh-uh during these 30 years of rule as you said this clan was allowed uh-uh it was omitted in the opportunity to make azerbaijan a democratic country because of this people, especially young people, were taken away uh -e veran spiritual center where they are washed

urban and in azerbaijan there is such a layer of young people who believe that they should be there , let's say azerbaijan should become an islamic country, even a mountainous country is such, that is, in this case, what is happening in your country today is even more dangerous for azerbaijan between russia because russia does not have and ira, as life has shown, does it have missiles and drones and even has a fifth column good evening , that is, to some extent, the fifth column of russia, and it comes from the people, in particular, against the background of the successes of, say, the ukrainian armed forces strength to some extent, they are getting stronger. well, it has strengthened until recently. now, if you know, in azerbaijan, there was a mass arrest of these leaders of these shiite organizations in azerbaijan. there are literally several hundred

people there, 300 people were arrested by the national security service and are continuing, that is, there was an attack . on the people's deputy who fought there, how is it publicly with them, iran in this case is more dangerous for the region than, say , bloodless russia, thank you, thank you, a member of the ukrainian officers' union was in touch with us . we talked about the caucasian escalation now let's continue this topic with oleksandr bozhko , the former from his country in armenia, congratulations, mr. oleksandr to sign the agreement, but russia is not interested in it, but armenia is gradually

moving away from russia, mr. oleksandr. good evening. good evening . happy easter. historically and today with the south caucasus, both from armenia and from azerbaijan, and of course it is unfortunate that these two independent states are now in a state of confrontation and what we observed last week is about this incident , as a result of which four from the armenian side and three from azerbaijan died

there is an opinion that this is the result of azerbaijan's forceful pressure on armenians, since azerbaijan is interested in promoting its interests, despite the fact that the village of teg is actually the territory of armenia internationally recognized territory and azerbaijan is strongly pushing its checkpoints there in order to gain control over the dominant heights, since this is a mountainous area , it is clear. for what purpose in the end. as we know, this led to a bloody clash . three servicemen from

azerbaijan were killed, four from armenia such forceful pressure on armenia consists of two factors, the first is to force armenia to sign a peace treaty that is not beneficial for it, in the wake of these victorious relations with azerbaijan, and secondly, to force it to agree on the opening of the so-called zangezer transport corridor, which would connect food supplies. and this is part of azerbaijan to the kichuvan autonomous republic through the territory of zangazur, the zangazur region

of armenia with azerbaijan itself, and both azerbaijan and russia are interested in this, and this is how we see what is going on this is a kind of political game where on the one hand the interests of azerbaijan and armenia coincide, on the other hand armenia was forced to turn to the european union so that the european union would send a mission observers, such a mission was sent at the beginning of this year, it is small, about 100 people, but with the help of this mission, it is still possible to control, in one way or another, the situation, which is explosive, and from time to time it can turn not just from

a conflict, but into a continuation of that those military actions that we observed 2 years ago, it is actually around these two moments that is being waged now, and not only is this a cold war with a transition to a hot phase between azerbaijan and armenia, but also a diplomatic one, since it continues negotiations in order to first of all work out the format of the future treaty in which , according to russia, after all, in the opinion of armenia , interests should be taken into account first of all, of course, we are talking about the community of nagorno-karabakh, it is ethnic armenians 1.5

hundreds of thousands of people, and by no means armenia does not care about their fate. in fact, this is how you can find the explosion of passions that we observed. last week, which happened near the village of tag. by the way, the village of those is located in the upper part of the uhoriya district. from the internationally recognized territory of armenia, as we can see, even taking into account the location of this village and the area where the collision took place, you can already predict who is the aggressor in this case, and who is actually the victim of this incident, tell me, mr. oleksandr, how dare armenia to distance oneself from russia when giving up relations with russia, so much depends, well, first of all, the mentality

is armenian, and it still weighs heavily, and this is what we see about the structure of the latest armenian state, after all, it is democratic a state where there are corresponding rights. well, the aspirations that armenia of armenians once declared before 1,000 in 2013. armenia openly affirmed its interest in european integration. so, this moment is present. it has always been present in armenia. collisions that arose in connection with the change of power and the passage of new political forces, but one way or another

, this desire for europe is definitely present in armenia, and there is an understanding of this, especially after the results of the war, which armenia lost when it turned out that russia, first of all, is not governed by such alliance relations, after all, armenia and russia are, as it were, political allies, they are members of the same defense bloc, and at this crucial moment, the armenians essentially became convinced that russia is not an ally has changed its imperialistic nature and remained such a realistic state as it was in its time , and tsarist russia later on and the soviet

union obviously understood this and pushed armenia to make such highly resonant decisions, which, of course, are quite moscow is reacting angrily, and we can see that, both diplomatic demarches and, in fact , in the mass media of russia , where there is pressure on the current armenian leadership. please tell me, mr. oleksandr, in principle you allow a moment when armenia will be able to get rid of its membership in the european union, let's say in the eurasian union, as far as it is realistic, definitely all this is connected with geopolitical changes and that is why armenia looks with such interest, both

armenia and azerbaijan. by the way, the course the russian-ukrainian war and i will tell you that the weight and influence of pro-ukrainian forces has increased dramatically in recent times . i mean both the public civil society and the political spectrum of those forces that support ukraine. and this is what we see. and on er open demonstrations in support of ukraine, and we see this on those forms that are occasionally discussed, the issue of the future of armenia is a little bit of the results of the russian-ukrainian war, and yet

the vast majority believe that ukraine will be able to win, will be able to push back the aggressor of its territory, as a result of which the influence of russia in the south caucasus will be sharply weakened and obviously the corresponding consequences, and we will see this and how the situation with and with azerbaijan and with georgia, as well as with armenia, actually i have a number another important ally for which, to put it mildly, it is a difficult country, iran is definitely a difficult country , so it is also an ally that uses armenia for its own political purposes, since we know that relations between iran and azerbaijan are not simple, and given the confrontation

of the armenian azerbaijani iran, you used armenia quite actively, we know that after the first karabakh war , iran exported a lot of scrap metal from the territory of nagorno-karabakh, which others , from the other side, how important is iran for armenia is still an alternative, let's say, in the energy sector for armenia. as you know, the gas pipeline is functioning and connects iran with armenia, of course, ira also . armenia uses irene in terms of political support. and then one should not forget that the armenian diaspora is also numerous, and we still have armenians there, moreover, despite the fact that they are

christians and iranians, a muslim country, they found the opportunity to play a rather active role in the life of public life, and early indeed during the last years a large part of armenia is owned by iranian companies, it leaves iran and in particular to germany . i know many acquaintances who moved there, but still , armenia is trying to support these traditional ties, and of course from the point of view of politics, well, it would be so say, no one can condemn for this, i believe, she was acting out of her own interests, just like all countries, both her neighbors and hmm geopolitical global players are also acting out

of their own interests. so, in this regard , she still played a lot of role there is help and support for iran to stabilize the economic situation in the difficult 90s for armenia, er, and now er, however, as we can see, er , let's say iran was in no hurry to help armenia in terms of weapons, er, obviously there were some of its own er - the nuances, so to speak but one way or another, in fact, the relations between iran and armenia are quite active, which the armenians are actually trying to use. thank

you, mr. oleksandr , for this detailed conversation and for the detailed answer. all that remains for me is to once again congratulate you on the holiday and hand over the air to my colleague angelica sezonnka, who presents the news release for this hour . all the best to you. well, vitaliy, in a few of moments, let's summarize this easter day, christ is risen, the final news release as of 19:00, for your attention, anzhelika sezonenko is working in the studio, our defenders repelled more than 45 enemy attacks during the day , the occupiers continue to advance in four directions, actively use operational-tactical and army aviation and do not