[000:00:00;00] yes, let's say that there was a misunderstanding with the students, and they tried to fire him later, but then he became the deputy minister already when yushchenko won. yes, it was a good story, viktor. thank you very much for this interesting conversation . and the politician was also with us, but now let's see how they prepared easter baskets for our defenders in lviv, how they collected the guests and how they actually packed them so that they could get to the front lines to the military who are on the front line in bakhmut they are, who did it all, how it all happened, our journalists saw, let's take a look at the lyceum named after heroiv krut, there is already a festive atmosphere here, they are packing

easter baskets for our defenders with the aim of collecting one and a half thousand easter gifts , which volunteers will deliver to the military along the entire front line, the volunteer team collects every week necessary things for the military and is going to the front line this week, in addition to military equipment, they bring easter mood and goodies, the question is not to take away a piece of ham or a piece of sausage take a piece of your heart to all these people, their souls and give the boys warmth, because our main goal is to provide everything necessary to those boys who are really fighting and defending ukraine, packing easter baskets , ditlakha volunteers and cadets of the heroiv krut lyceum joined them, they divided into teams, put clear sweets with a ribbon for the process dozens of caring people joined in the preparation . in this way, they want to thank the armed forces

of ukraine. here is lemon juice. and here , children joined the process of collecting baskets. they cook easter eggs for the military, i, uh, i'm from the armed forces of ukraine, because they protect us. i also draw grids, stoves, um, pictures. i also make easter eggs here, i help my mother. well, here there are different easter eggs. i am a ukrainian and i am a child of my people, because the boys are protecting me on the front lines, and that is why i am standing here now, not sitting in the basement, and like other children, somewhere in kramatorsk

or in donetsk, in mariupol , they are completing the packing process. lyceum cadets attach the easter basket to complete children's drawings, one of the boys, a second-year cadet, andriy chasoviikin. his father is currently serving under bakhmut, and such a package will go to him on easter at the position. we supported this idea because we wanted to help, so these easter gifts have already gone to our troops and will be on the front lines in a few days.

one interesting gift and we have 25 locations of deployment, we will visit this time they will take out a number plate and under this number there will be a prize, a generator, a body armor, knee pads , that is, we have 25 such prizes . they brought such joy. we want to bring a boy, so we need cars . they have already left for the military. 25 points of our armed forces of ukraine at zero positions are planning to start with bahmut and within a few days to travel along the entire front line khrystyna parubiy volodymyr studenyi espresso tv channel well, gentlemen, let's continue our tag, now let's talk a little about money, not just about money, but about money for the military, you know that , well, extra payments in the end or not. is not as unambiguous as possible, it seems because it is clear that each of us wants to say that this is how money should be, questions about students, money

, uh, take it because they do not appear anywhere by themselves, and we will figure out who is more populist, there is some background to everything this a year ago, when the russian troops invaded ukraine and reached kyiv in a matter of hours, they were already in the suburbs of kyiv, so it seemed like a good idea to say that we are ready to pay the military 100,000 each if they are ready to risk their lives again and stop the enemy, but since then it has passed already a year ukraine, as we know, finances the army, it can only finance it from its own budget revenues, it is clear that the budget has fallen dramatically due to the fact that there is a war. well, for example, the same

chornobayivka that we sing songs about well, which also became a certain legend, where there was a military man and constantly. we, the armed forces of ukraine, were crushing the enemy there, but today it has already returned, we returned it, more precisely , again, where it is occupied, but there, for example , there was a poultry farm. and where there were about 5 million , it was uh chickens and they are not - and according to the report, 50 countries exported eggs so that you understand. that is, this is a huge, fully automated enterprise, a huge factory, it is completely destroyed. all the birds died, all the export ones, the logistics line, as well all have already been cut, that is, this is just one example of how the economy is suffering, that is, we were one of the largest exporters of eggs even today. for example, one of these enterprises was completely destroyed, and for example, to restore it, we need investments now of several hundred million dollars, which, in principle, no one will give, no one will in chernobyuk, now

to save money plus in order to recover , all this just takes time, just about that, this is a small touch to the picture. the question is, where would populism have been when we promised the beginning those hundred thousand regardless of the fact that somehow it will happen, well, you remember those forecasts, two or three weeks , the war will end for us in 2-3 weeks, we can hold on for 2-3 weeks, it was possible to pay 100,000 each , but the war does not last 2-3 weeks anymore it has already been going on for 14 weeks, months, or more , a full-scale, full-scale, big war, and this question is now acute again . well, when people return from some there on some rotation from under the bahmut, where there are a lot of wounded units and dead, and suddenly they find out that they will not be paid normally there conditionally speaking, then it goes to social networks, everyone is outraged

, and so on, we will talk to you about it. maria ionova and andrii osadchuk appear in our matter, the people's elected officials of ukraine , we congratulate you, gentlemen, and i can already see whether the military will see these three 30,000 or where they are from take let's try to talk about it ms. maria let's start with you and how correct is the decision to return the money legislatively and is there a resource for this, you know , it seems to me that now it is not the implementation of the armed forces of ukraine in connection with that p andriy let's move on for now to you already then we will join mrs. maria if there is such an opportunity. good day once again

. well, look, let's start like you actually and we proposed to discuss a somewhat broad picture, well, in general , our government over the last 3-4 years did not differ in the high quality of management decisions, that's all of us we know and of course in crisis situations it is difficult to make decisions in general, but when these decisions are made by people who were distinguished by not very high-quality decisions , then of course they are not always products . the second important point is that everyone, at least a little managed large teams, they know that it is very easy to give some reward or money, but it is very difficult and sometimes it is impossible to take something away from me, i have such experience, i was lucky to be in the management of the company, we had up to 5,000 people working there, we constantly dealt with motivation issues. i feel very well how much it is difficult as if he wants from this experience i can only imagine how difficult it is

to motivate civil servants and how difficult it is to responsibly motivate the armed forces in the great war when hundreds of thousands people don't just work for you, they protect your life, health, and the future of the whole country, that is, work with the motivation of the army during the war should be very free, every step should be thought through, so they talked about it, i talked about it and this is my clear position ukrainian soldiers have to clearly understand how , when and in what amount they will receive monetary support, the system of monetary support must be clear, predictable and fair, and this is a task that must be solved by the government of ukraine, and definitely with an eye on our capacity, but it must to be predicted when there are any problems, it is necessary to go out, explain, speak, talk about complex topics, but

this cannot be done, let this be the most important thing that everyone must understand , returning to the difficult question of where the money comes from, well, this is an integral part of the hype, we usually share what is not there, especially during the war 'to say the least, it's not very ethical. but we also return to the story about the effectiveness of public administration, we return to the story about the effectiveness of taxes in this country, and last year already proved that despite the great during the war, we had huge problems in the state fiscal service at customs. these are no longer some criticisms of the opposition, they are the results of the work of the temporary investigative commission of the parliament, where the majority, by the way, are servants of the people, and based on these results, a bunch of customs officers were fired and tax officers were fired. last week, i went to well, the so-called voluntary resignation of the head of the bureau of economic security and what the boys and girls who work in this commission say that last year we lost tens of

billions of hryvnias due to inefficiency the work of all these institutions means that our economy has fallen by more than 30%. yes, ukraine is now heavily dependent on western aid. well, let's be honest, it's insignificant and in fact completely dependent, but we have to constantly talk about how to make more money, how to improve the efficiency of the civil service, how to improve the tax administration system , because all business always complains that it's not like that on the amount of tax rates as on their administration and unfortunately now the only thing we hear from the ruling coalition is that they are returning in fact, the whole system is returning to the pre-war rhythm, tax audits are starting to work, as if nothing has happened, which in fact, in my opinion, is a huge nonsense , because we need to solve not some external organizational issues, we need to look at the essence of whether

ukraine can continue to exist and work effectively with the administration system that we have there are no answers to these questions. so far there are no, so once again we are obliged, we have no other choice but to provide our military with adequate financial support so that it is fair and understandable and to be honest, i am quite optimistic about this because i think the general staff of the minister of defense understands this perfectly and they will look for some way out of the situation together with the ukrainian parliament , but at the same time when we are all focused on the war and true in fact but we must always remember about the economic bloc ukraine will never be constantly given money to survive we will never be permanently dependent on our allies therefore despite the great war the economic bloc of the government has

to work as efficiently as possible. well, at the same time, i conclude on the basis of the things laid down. the state machine is high-quality bureaucrats . this is what the team of the servants of the people has not coped with in the last 3-4 years, because the selection, transparent selection of the involvement of professionals has actually failed , and now we see the enormous difficulties in banks, for example, with the search for candidates for the heads of e.e. military administrations in the regions, they actually ran out of reserves. they began to appoint mainly security forces there, guys from the prosecutor's office and from law enforcement agencies. well, they can certainly to be high-quality performers, but it is unlikely that they can be high-quality management of economic processes, that is, the question unfortunately, there are more than answers so far, but the key thing is that we definitely should not do everything, because we thus demotivate our armed forces, we sow doubts in them, we create grounds for some unnecessary discussions and conversations, and

politicians who start such hype in the hall of the verkhovna rada and in the media, but end on a positive note, should understand this. i think that the issue of adequate financial support in the near future will it was decided taking into account the maximum interests of all involved parties, if i don't know, the servants of the people say that there is nowhere to take that money, but let's say, if we remember , for example, uah 33 million allocated to the quiet evening with olena kravets program. this was a participant in quarter 95. i don't know if they still give tours, but now she hosts this program, such an entertaining program is broadcast on tv channel dom 33 million uah. i understand that you do not have such a very huge amount that will cover the needs of all the military. but i think that there are others

as well as programs that are also financed by something from the state budget, less than one battalion, their surcharges on the front, which is called in a month, i will show that i understand and share your indignation with the state funding of some channels, especially in the conditions in which espresso works and they fully support you, but how is it correct a colleague says, you understand, it is not worth it. it is possible to even pay attention to such money . 33 million is nothing at all. we are now talking about, for example, 30,000 uah , the need for 100, in my opinion, 40 billion, 145 billion uah which are needed in order to close this issue and this can only be solved by very systematic such global actions and that's exactly what we don't see from the government, we don't see this and again what i started talking about last year tens of billions were definitely stolen or underearned by the ukrainian budget at customs due to the state fiscal service due to the work of some

law enforcement agencies, primarily the ineffective work of the economic security bureau , therefore the government should give us systematic answers on how we will earn better and how we will you need to lose less and focus on the big things , on those where there are billions. but here are the little things. well, it’s just about the ethical characteristics of the current government, how they continue to support their people there, no matter what, but let’s be honest, all ukrainians the ruling coalitions supported their own in one way or another during all the decades of the independence of the ukrainian state, that is, there is absolutely no need to be surprised and even if the program of ms. kravets is closed, believe me there is no benefit for the discussion that we are currently having with us, that we are currently having with you, will not take place, but damn it, look at it, nevertheless, you say that the government

should make some kind of program. well, i don’t know if you have read serhiy fursa’s column, which says that in principle, if so, honestly, there are only two ways to find the more than 100 billion hryvnias in order to continue these payments . it is either to raise taxes or to turn on the printing press . both of them are not good, maybe there are some others solutions, but then they really require optimization of management. and in this sense, we have a process going on now, for example, still over kobolev, so over the head of naftogaz and the reformers themselves, who are blamed for the fact that he had high bonuses, so here is a simple example, let's cut the bonuses let's reduce the salaries of the officials, is it possible to find it there, that is, it is possible

that some sequence of budget expenditures will allow, er, to release that money, or after all, there is no alternative to raise taxes and print money, well, friends, first of all, in every moment of time, where we are, is the result of all our previous actions in the previous months and years ago, now when dear serhiy fursa says that either or well , first of all, we need to look back and give ourselves an honest answer. situations where are we now and as i said, it is not only war , therefore it is very important that we do not simply choose from two bad decisions, that the government, which bears full responsibility for the economic strategy and

tactics of our state, that he gave us answers, and what else are we doing, how will we ensure the vitality of the ukrainian economy, that is, the question is much broader, not where to find money , but how we will continue to earn. that if there is someone to take it from, they may not receive this money unjustifiably, and this is a bureaucratic apparatus that actually works very hard, of course there are different people there, but during the year of the war we demonstrated that we are able to work as the state or ukrainian institutions resisted and believe a lot of civil servants oh, how difficult it is if we tell them now , you know, we have failed many reforms in general, we have little money, we will take away some part of your budget, well, this will simply lead to the demotivation of the state apparatus and again these are all systemic approaches, if our state

apparatus stops working at all, we will do exactly the same. we will help us lose the war, not win, so this is the approach. let's take it from someone and give it to someone. excuse the logic polygraph polygraph or sharikova already everyone who works in their place should be motivated they should understand how and why what you do not do and what they get for it heard you mr. andriy thank you andriy osadchuk people's deputy of ukraine was an immigration officer and now we want to show you a story about how russian fakes spread last week, which are relevant now, uh , secret white laboratories in ukraine, about the godlessness of ukrainians and plans to unite ukrainian-polish territories, what else, let 's see, the authorities zelensky is ready to share territories of ukraine in advance, as the polish political edition of enzypa claims, for the first time such a proposal was voiced

by andrzej duda in february 22nd during his visit to kyiv and how would zelensky refuse to do so now? there is no regime according to data edition now zelensky is morally ready to give volhynia , rivne and lviv regions to warsaw in exchange for emergency assistance another batch of russian fakes pro-russian media report that zelenskyi is allegedly ready to give western ukrainian territories to poland in exchange for help during the counteroffensive. the reason for the fake was the statement of the president of ukraine that in the future there will be no borders between poland and ukraine. specialists of the center for countering disinformation at the nsdc explain that there was no such statement by zelenskyi. instead, he spoke about friendship between the two countries and the accession of our country to the european union, the meetings about secret biolaboratories are returning again without information about the fact that the usa

has allegedly started building new biolaboratories and to train ukrainian biologists, the russian ministry of defense has spread the so-called programs of joint biological research, which are actually on the correct development of components, the biological weapons of the united states never clearly state their obligations in the area of ​​safety research under the control of the immu bellalaboratories, not transparent, all activities create a sharp spread of dangerous pathogens in the areas of placement of objects, the russian content is also spreading a fake about pseudo-bioterrorism on the territory of a school in the luhansk region, allegedly in in an educational institution, they discovered fake banknotes infected with the anna virus, and the furniture is infected exclusively in laboratory conditions, that these bills remained alive even after double processing

. the system of vaccination, dispensation, and the sanitary and similar services was completely liquidated according to the results of the study to the internet project stopfake, such statements of the kremlin are false in ukraine, as in many countries of the world, and there are health care laboratories for the study of dangerous viruses . the united states has supported such laboratories in ukraine since 1991, but the ukrainian government is solely responsible for their creation and operation. at the beginning of the full offensive of russia by the ukrainian ministry of health ordered the safe disposal of pathogen samples to eliminate the risks of the release of pathogens in the event of an attack by the russians thesis on the us program and the provision of bioweapons in ukraine the governments of the countries that cooperate with the united states with a similar program have repeatedly refuted statements with the statement that such partnerships do not pose any threat, and the supreme representative of the united nations organization for disarmament and zuma on the committee

explained that it is russia that presents ukraine as an aggressor and shows no signs of creating no biological weapons were recorded, and while ukraine is fighting the moscow patriarchate , russian propaganda accuses ukraine of atheism, so the state duma of the russian federation has already adopted a statement on the destruction of the canonical of the ukrainian orthodox church, in which it is stated that kyiv supports the criminal activity of schismatic structures and neo-nazi organizations that seize orthodox churches, forcibly liquidate communities, carry out thunders in churches and attacks on priests at the beginning of 2023, more than 60 churches of the uoc mp transferred to the orthodox church of ukraine, and this week the council of churches supported bill prohibition of organizations associated with russia, on the other hand, the uoc-mp stated that they did not agree with it natalya, the old

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