[000:00:00;00] live broadcast of the espresso tv channel watered monday tomorrow we will work for you again and understood and understood even more about what is happening in ukraine and around it further for your attention draft verdict with serhiy rudenko let's watch together christ is risen glory to ukraine this is a verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to everyone today , april 17, 418, the day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers , russia continues to use terror tactics , the probability of launching missile and evolutionary the number of strikes throughout the territory of ukraine remains high, the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine announced that during the past day

, the russian occupiers launched 25 missile strikes from the s300 air defense system on the peaceful cities of zaporizhzhia , komyshuvakha, zaporizhia region, and snigurivka , mykolaiv oblast, meanwhile, a counteroffensive by the armed forces of ukraine is expected on april 30. passes the year with reference to documents leaked by the pentagon slovakia handed over 13 promised mig-29 fighters to ukraine , we informed the minister of defense of slovakia , meanwhile, the russian occupiers continue lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of april 17, russia has already lost 182,660 people in ukraine in just the last day, the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 590 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3,660 tanks, 787 armored combat vehicles, 2,804 artillery systems, 538

rocket launcher systems 200 he 85 air defense means 308 aircraft 293 helicopters 5672 units of motor vehicles 18 ships boats 911 cruise missiles 2 347 drones 328 units of special techniques will putin be saved by the third world war prigozhin is driving the antlers well, russia is already terror - these are the main topics of today's program , for an hour we will talk about what is happening in ukraine, the world, especially on the russian-ukrainian front, i want to introduce today's first guest, he is a people's deputy of ukraine former head of the security service of ukraine valentin nalyvaichenko p valentin good day good health to you, thank you for joining our program christ is risen i congratulate you, he is truly

risen, let's start from the beginning information of the pentagon because today the next date appeared counteroffensive in the armed forces of ukraine, not everyone reported that on april 30 the major counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine will begin, but given your experience working in the special services , what do you think is a controlled leak of information that we have been observing over the last two weeks regarding the publication of secret documents. is this an information and psychological special operation after all, the purpose of which is to convey information to russia, to the partners of the united states of america, and to china that everyone knows everything and what is needed after all still pay attention to this knowledge, er, those that superpowers have and which are becoming the property of the public in the world, in my estimation, this was actually an attempt by the russian special services

through recruitment through agents among technically american military personnel to gain access to the network of exchange of documents with the credentials of the er ministry defense of the pentagon of the usa, this is the first, the second - one of these agents has already been detained by the u.s. fbi and, as i understand it, this lady has now left the u.s. fbi because she is the one uh, only this person, a woman, was one of the telegram channels where uh, possible files of the folder were removed from the technical network of information exchange, the pentagon, the pentagon, that is , the ministry of defense, uh, taisher was detained, as we all now know, the american press writes about it quite widely, uh, he served at one of the national guard facilities in a rather remote state of massachusetts, but i think that the most important thing is that now one of the serious versions of the fbi in the united states is

that among them those people of the american military and ex-military were recruited by russian of the special services, one of these recruiters of the suspect, an elderly man, is already in the development of the us pbf, and in the near future, i think we will learn more information, and more than that. i believe that the detention of the technical employee is being discussed, right now , he is on your screen. in order to further establish who was recruiting, who was carrying out the task, how long uh-uh such activity was carried out by him and possibly others involved in removing information from communication channels from the pentagon's technical system of the ministry of defense of the united states, valentin, is it possible to repeat such a situation in any other special service, including the ukrainian one? well, this is the principle that when everyone works there in his area, he sees only his own sector, for which he is responsible, either in the security service

of ukraine or in to the central intelligence agency because well, it seems that an officer of the united states air force had access to documents to which he should not have access well, in fact , he, this american military officer, was just a technical employee who had to maintain and maintain this system, therefore, he also had certain technical access . but i want to emphasize to mr. sergey that he was just as important as a link as an agent, so i think that he was recruited for access, moreover, and the materials that, even technically, if i removed them, were definitely not the same and not as they appeared . then, after processing the falsification and so on from the russian special services already in social media, it is very important to understand the moment even when the russian special services or

other foreign special services steal important documents then already their use is clear that it is to their own advantage, well , one of the examples where the russian special services were pierced is where they began to reduce the losses of the russian army of russian soldiers and mercenaries many times in the so-called documents. in fact, you are now absolutely firmly on the air, correctly reporting almost 200,000 e-e killed and mortally wounded military personnel and mercenaries and other criminals criminals of the russian federation, this is why access to e-e was so important of the technical system is not so important. what and how much the russian special services stole is more important than what they falsified. and now they pass it off as e-e documents , i think i should trust what is published , especially in relation to russia's war against ukraine , especially in relation to information about russian

e-e units, the loss and so on is not worth it this is false information already steamrolled under falsified under shuffled if you want well , in the meantime, russian propagandists are just howling about these documents that have been made public on the internet by solovyov and other propagandists, they are burning up, solovyov assures that there is a deep systemic crisis in the united states of america, let's see how it goes, boys, 21 good enough, the system of blocking information

, the distribution of information works well they are superior to those who are responsible for preserving it, that is, of course , this is the appearance of such a kind of documents that this is sitting, that the deep system of the crisis, if mr. valentina, to return to these documents that were made public, one of them testified that china secretly tried or promised to supply the kremlin with lethal weapons, and of course the chinese had to react and refute this information, they uh, of course , i mean the chinese, nothing they are doing and even more so that they will never be just that. if it is not, it is not confirmed and it is obvious that the world and china, in principle, they are in standby mode, or let's say in observation mode, when this war will have

a draw, and the same documents also say that a stalemate for both sides is the most likely scenario of war, well, at least that's the case. if you believe the documents that were made public, that's what american intelligence believes, watching this, don't you have a feeling that um, this is one of the elements, or let's say, the publicizing of these documents to push both sides to some kind of peace negotiations, because if there is no prospect of one of the parties winning or winning as these documents say, then we should sit down, as it were, at the table negotiations and to agree on something, and look at the references or analytical conclusions that are being discussed, where china would be cited now , in fact, they are open sources of the chinese mass media, you can read them in full, i even have in the translation

that the alleged chinese special services for their alleged leadership evaluate the course of the war as such that none of the sides, neither we, nor russia, will get a final victory, this is in chinese sources, even mass information, but here it is important to understand something else that in in those documents that were allegedly leaked, i will repeat, in my opinion, there is a lot that has already been steamrolled and falsified in their favor by the russian special services, and that is why there are such allegations that even china, you see, is evaluating and collecting or supplying weapons or is going to supply weapons, this is not true, russia really wants to of this and even the last example here you are now you are now on the screen when it seems like yesterday putin eh even during eh it seemed like a holiday still met with the minister of defense of china with only one goal only

in order to do everything on the part of russia for so that china at least somehow involves, well, at least in joint military exercises in the south china sea, apply for some joint military activities, uh, you know how to rattle weapons around sakhalin and uh, vladivostok , just to show that russia has at least one ally the military, you know all this, it’s more like how putin always makes such a bluff, such ostentatious measures in order to show his strength and supposedly some allies, which he actually has for the american special services, which for of the american government. and by the way, not only for america and japan. i think it is also very important for our other allies that no type and type of weapons from china be supplied to russia, even through north korea or through other third countries, because the most worrying

concern was caused at the beginning of the year by possible china's and russia's plans to use north korea as such a transit country to supply, first of all, artillery shells and shells for russian hails so that they would then appear here and kill ukrainians so far these schemes have not worked they are blocked by our allies, but russia's plans, i think, have not changed, they will desperately look for opportunities to receive some kind of military military-technical assistance from china or from other countries , mr. valentine, you mentioned the chinese minister of defense , li shanfu, who was in moscow yesterday for easter. putin met with him, and putin is also the minister of defense. well, of course , he told china that xi jinping is the best , his personal friend, and emphasized that everything is very good in cooperation with china, especially in

terms of military departments. we will hear what he said. putin, you arrived in russia after the visit to our country of our great friend, the chairman of the chinese people's republic of china. on the development of relations in the economic, social , cultural, and educational industries. well, on the basis of the military departments , large-scale exercises of the pacific

region and the flotilla located there took place against this background of russian today, putin met with shoigu and shoigu reported to him about the course of these military exercises and putin said that the russian fleet can be used, i quote , in conflicts in any direction , let's see this fragment, serhiy kozuyovych , it is obvious to us that this is not today's day. uh, the use of expressed forces, and first of all, this concerns the ukrainian direction and everything related to the protection of our people in the donbass in other territories, but the task of the fleets, including uh, in the pacific theater, no one is there, he is not shot and that's why i'm asking you to definitely continue this work and pay attention even to the development and preparation

of events on the second lot. by the way, the ambassador of ukraine to japan serhiy korsunskyi said that the japanese, i quote, find it funny to look at these outdated pots that they call the fleet . attention of the russian fleet but don't you have a feeling, valentin, that russia is trying to create all the prerequisites for another conflict in the pacific ocean, japan, china , taiwan, south korea, north korea for in order to divert all threats and the attention of the world away from himself, because he is now the main criminal in the event that a military conflict unfolds in those conditions in the ocean, then of course all attention will be focused on this region. i agree with you, russia has long dreamed of aggression against ukraine almost from the beginning to start a conflict in the south china sea

around taiwan, and especially to be drawn in, china began to resolve at least one dispute in a military way, and there are hundreds of these disputes, especially territorial and now it is very important to understand why putin, for example, by calling him well, it is clear that it is not for this same propaganda picture, we would not believe it, we understand. the main thing behind this picture actually turned out to be that the marines and other personnel of the pacific fleet of the russian federation were destroyed by our armed forces forces of ukraine here on the eastern and southern fronts in ukraine, and there is now an acute shortage of military personnel over those of the soviet fruit of russia, this is number one. that is why putin is so nervous, lowering his eyes and asking

about something there that i have just deciphered for you. who really happened? what problems did this er inspection of the pacific fleet and these exercises on full combat readiness during the last two days there in the far east reveal for the second time? it is necessary to understand that today and in the north, sweden and others more than 10 allied countries and in the far east japan, the united states and other allied countries are conducting international large-scale anti-missile exercises around the russian borders, the whole world, the entire anti-putin coalition is demonstrating today with military means and military exercises that no missile and no missile blackmail of russia will pass. this is what is really happening and this is why putin and the entire military and political leadership of russia are so nervous these days, because these are the days when putin's coalition is showing its means of deterrence. and international training, and most importantly, completely destroys the main myth about some kind of missile

threat that russia is trying to intimidate the whole world for us. by the way, you mentioned the ambassador of ukraine to japan , serhiy torchynskyi, i agree with what for us now an extremely important political and military-political ally, japan is a country that, by the way, is one of the most powerful in the big seven, we know that at the highest level , the big seven are meeting literally a month ago, it is very important to us that the entire big seven be introduced there continued to support ukraine, and now with japan, ukraine really has very important partnership relations, and it seems that on march 21 this year , the prime minister of japan was already here in kyiv, and ukraine signed a very important statement on global the partnership is serious with the japanese, and this partnership is financial, and i repeat, defense, humanitarian, and economic, and it is an important

ally there in the far east, and that is why. by the way, there is another reason why russia is so nervous. i remind you that the northern territories russia calls the kuril islands are actually occupied of the russian federation and russia understands that ukraine causes huge losses and weakens the russian army here, and at the same time it weakens russia, it is clear that in the far east there is also a weakening and, you know, such humidity the weakening of russia raises huge questions for those countries that have territorial claims against the russian federation, where the russian federation has occupied and is trying to hold temporarily occupied territories in other countries. hiroshima and japan perceive these maneuvers

that putin started with shigu as mutual intimidation today, april 17, the members of the anti-putin coalition south korea, the united states and america in the international waters of the sea of ​​japan, maritime missile defense exercises are taking part in these exercises. more than 60 south korean military aircraft, including f-35af-15k tak kf and 16 fighters, as well as about 40 air force aircraft, including f16 fighters , attack aircraft of the corps between the marine corps a-10 and f e35b are not jet planes, there are fam 18 planes. well, a couple of destroyers, this south korean and american missile changer, japanese , are also in those conditions in the ocean in the area of ​​the exercises in the japanese

sea. they were mr. valentin. what do you think for is putin counting on this situation, well, that is, after all, that the match they are trying to throw in the pacific ocean, he, uh, at any moment there can start not a fire, but a big fire, and either in taiwan or in the area of ​​the kuril islands, or it is possible in the conflict which can be renewed between north and south korea, that is, er, any, any option , as i understand it, escalation will be in putin's hands, or will the main light be answered to the main question that putin still has to lose er in ukraine and that in ukraine

, the already mentioned f-16 and f-15 and f-35 would also be there appropriate precisely at the current stage of the war, especially before the counteroffensive or to strengthen the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine on the territory of ukraine in order to drive out the russians , i will tell you that we will clearly start with what you finished mr. serhiy, the f16 is the universal or nothing fighter that ukraine desperately needs for our armed forces forces, and in addition to the fact that it is a universal fighter, it is the very plane that can carry air missiles in order to destroy the targets of the aggressor, its bombers are planes still on the territory of russia , from where they made terrorist missile attacks attacks on us by thunder - on our citizens and on our energy facilities and not only this briefly about f16 regarding the entry of japan and china and what is happening there i think it is precisely the anti-putin coalition that shows putin first of all and warns everyone as one of

the negotiators with putin that no missile attack, no missile blackmail from russia will pass, moreover, there is complete readiness to meet any military threat from the russian federation both in the pacific ocean and in the south china sea, in the sea of ​​japan , and in general in any part of the far three american destroyers came from the east precisely for this purpose, all the best air forces of japan and south korea and the united states and other countries were involved, and i will tell you. yes, it may be interesting for ours that one f-35 is already uh a fifth-generation fighter destroys half of the russian fleet, two such planes, and in fact, the two of them take off enough to make the russian pacific fleet cease to exist altogether. that's why russia is shaking

so much. suffered huge losses because they lost the marines of the pacific fleet by throwing cannon fodder at the front here in ukraine against us, this is what is actually happening behind the scenes of these uh ostentatious videos of putin with the chinese minister of defense and then putin with the russian minister of aggression and why according to you, valentin, if the west has such capabilities, and it is enough , well, serious enough to destroy the black sea fleet of the russian federation, it would probably be enough for a day or half a day for that this fleet does not exist at all, about 70 ships are located in the waters of the black sea in the area of ​​novorossiysk, they took these ships away, or why do you think the west holds back or is restrained

in helping the ukrainians so that russia does not receive a complete defeat on the southern and eastern fronts in ukraine i think we were talking about the pacific fleet if we move to the black sea fleet here the situation is completely different in the black sea as you know there is no presence of the american fleet at the moment it is in the mediterranean sea and now turkey first russia's aggression against us has closed the straits. in fact, only the turkish fleet remains in the black sea, and it is not so large , and in fact the largest number of hai and concern cans , but remains afloat in the russian federation. this black sea fleet has generally lost any serious strategic threat to other countries, so it threatens us . but in order to remove this threat, we are clearly

talking with our international partners and day and nick and i take an active part in this. we need universal fighters with missiles to destroy the last ones and prevent the russian navy from deploying its launch -launched missiles with calibers. what are they doing? well , even today, in reports from the general staff of ukraine, we see that there are 7 boats, they deployed three of them with calibers on board, yes. these are the ones that carry calibers to destroy them and deter them. this is exactly why we need modern fighters such as the f-16 , but even with the mig-29 received from slovakia i think that the situation will gradually improve, this means that the russian federation will continue to withdraw its black sea fleet from the possible impression that it is already a fighter, perhaps with migs, but for this we need not only mig-29, but also

special weapons and missiles under the wings so that it is possible to equip these fighters for the defense of ukraine and to repel possible missiles , so russia, against the background of the preparation of the armed forces of ukraine for a counteroffensive, the five countries of the big seven agreed to oust russia from the international nuclear fuel market, we know that they had and always have an influence on nuclear fuel around the world. i remember the discussions that took place in ukraine , in particular, when the american company westinhouse, if i am not mistaken, tried to find a market and we were in the attachment because let's say that they are tamed in relation to nuclear fuel, not the collapse of this monopoly of russia in relation to international nuclear fuel , how will it hit russia, and does the west still

expect that this russian empire will collapse not by way of victory on the battlefield in ukraine, but by this strong the strong embrace of the world community, which will bring it to bankruptcy, international sanctions so that the russian regime of putin, first of all, does not receive money, neither from oil , nor from gas, nor from the nuclear e-e energy industry , it is clear that this is the number one issue in order to weaken the aggressor and in maybe you for our armed forces of ukraine, it is rather the ousting of the enemy from our territory, these are interrelated things, and this is how in the west we always defend our position of ukraine regarding changes and in the alliance e-e of nuclear energy, where the leading role

is really played by france and really should be played great britain, the united states, this is a serious alliance, these are serious changes, especially considering that germany has already finally closed the last three nuclear power plants, that is, the russian nuclear power plants are losing their last possible , well, maybe not an ally, but a partner in europe that could still restrain sanctions against the russian nuclear power of this organization of the state government. i think that now nuclear sanctions will be implemented much faster by the european union and the entire anti-putin coalition, i will tell you why it is so important that it is not only nuclear power units, as most people think, it is actually to cut off funding for nuclear development in the interests of the russian armed forces, because it is the atom that finances and develops and conducts all scientific and technical developments in the interests of nuclear energy and of the space forces of the russian federation. that is why it is so important that